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Hello Margaret, MacLysaght 'The Surnames of Ireland' (O) HOLLERAN A form of HALLORAN peculiar to Cos Galway and Mayo. BRETT, BRITT, BRITTON, BRITTAIN from le Breton (Brittany). BRETT and BRITT now mainly found in Cos Waterford, Tipperary and Sligo. Rob Doragh Liverpool UK > From: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:51:21 -0400 > Subject: Mahon/Mahone > Unfortunately, I don't know the cousinship among the 4 surnames - Gilmore, > Holleran, Britt/on, and Reily/Reilly. Since my Holleran/Reilly 2nd great > grandparents arrived in 1850, there is no information on their manifest > about point of origin. Thomas Holleran disappears from my research about > 1863 - no known Civil War service, but the last records are his 1863 Civil > War draft registration and the 1862 birth of Elizabeth. Margaret Reilly > Holleran died in 1882, when New Jersey death certificates did not require > the names of parents. She is a widow in the 1870 census, with 5 children. > > I have not tried the Reily/Reilly line, because it is such a common name. I > have looked at Holleran and Gilmore, but have not yet dug into the Britt/on > line. I have John Gilmore and Mary in the 1875 NY Census, but nothing later > on them. > Margaret
Once again, a HUGE "Thank You" to Len SWINDLEY for transcribing these records. These days I am a very lazy genealogist, just sitting back and doing no research myself, and just waiting for more gems to appear on the CTI web-site from the wonderful transcriptions by Len SWINDLEY and others. Once again, my MOORHEAD family surnames appear in this listing. I have no idea as to any possible connection between these people and mine, but feel sure that they will be connected; so these results go into my filing system along with so many other 'hits'; and will one day all fall into place. Having seen postings in the distant past by our dear Teena for both MOORHEAD and LOVE, and seeing both surnames appear in this transcription, I expect that they will definitely be her family. Good on you Teena. This CTI web-site is still a monument to your efforts in its formative years. I am SO grateful to ALL who provide transcriptions for the CTI web-site, for your/their selfless, altruistic, efforts to benefit all of us. I do HOPE that when people find helpful family surname listings in the CTI web-site, that they write personally to the transcriber to thank them for their efforts. Having spoken over the years with a few of them, I have been saddened to learn from them that most never hear from anyone. THANK YOU all. And of course a thank you to web-master Jim McKANE for notifying us of each new listing. Oh what a wonderful and valuable service; which many commercial interests would charge for; and we get it all free of charge. What wonderful people! Cheers. Ray in Oz On 07/08/2013, at 7:54 PM, Jim McKane <[email protected]> wrote: *Abercorn Estate*, Manor of Donelong (*Donagheady* Parish) Tenants 1777<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn.html> -------------
Hi Claire and thanks for the thoughts. Unfortunately, I don't know the cousinship among the 4 surnames - Gilmore, Holleran, Britt/on, and Reily/Reilly. Since my Holleran/Reilly 2nd great grandparents arrived in 1850, there is no information on their manifest about point of origin. Thomas Holleran disappears from my research about 1863 - no known Civil War service, but the last records are his 1863 Civil War draft registration and the 1862 birth of Elizabeth. Margaret Reilly Holleran died in 1882, when New Jersey death certificates did not require the names of parents. She is a widow in the 1870 census, with 5 children. I have not tried the Reily/Reilly line, because it is such a common name. I have looked at Holleran and Gilmore, but have not yet dug into the Britt/on line. I have John Gilmore and Mary in the 1875 NY Census, but nothing later on them. I'll keep digging. Thanks, Margaret -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Claire K. Sent: Wednesday, 07 August, 2013 2:08 PM To: Hooksett Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Mahon/Mahone Hi Margaret, Was it John Gilmore who was the Holleran's first cousin, or was Mary Britt(on)s the Holleran cousin? Whichever it is, have you tried triangulating the Gilmore/Britt(on), Holleran, and Reilly names to see if you can find them in close proximity (same parish or adjoining parishes, perhaps)? Maybe that will help you narrow down a Galway or Mayo locale so you can dig more deeply into unofficial placenames, subdenomination names, and the like, and find one that looks / sounds like "Mahone." Claire K. On Aug 7, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Hooksett <[email protected]> wrote: > ...Irish cousins of mine, the Gilmores, lived in Oldham, Lancashire, > England for a few years.[In] the English census...The entire family is > listed as born in "Mahone, Ireland." > > Since these Gilmore family members from "Mahone" are close cousins to > my Holleran family, I'm hoping to pinpoint the location. ...Thomas Holleran... > arrived in New York in 1850, single, and on the same ship with his > future wife, Margaret A Reily/Reilly. They will marry on January 1, 1851... > > Peter Gilmore will be born July 27, 1862, in Oldham, Lancashire to > John Gilmore and Mary Britt or Britton. In 1899, he will marry > Elizabeth Holleran, younger sister of my great grandmother...2nd cousins. > > Any suggestions for "Mahone?" > ... > The name Holleran is NOT a common one and appears to be mostly > concentrated in the old Connaught Province, in Galway and Mayo. > Alternate spellings like Halloran are more widespread. ... ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Meagha Yours does sound a similar story and I'm still trying to find possible Boyds and Nelsons in Urney and Pittsburg. not sure how successful I'll be and will probably never find a definite answer. Regards Marion ----- Original Message ----- From: "Killeen, Meaghan" <[email protected]> To: "Marion Shephard" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:21 PM Subject: RE: [CoTyIre] An intriguing puzzle. Hi Marion, I have a similar story. My great-grandfather George Killeen and his brother were left with his mothers siblings (the Sullivan family)--coincidentally in Pittsburgh,PA after his mother died and his father decided to move back to his family in Washington DC. I have heard from my aunt that the Sullivans took in another relative by the name of Connie Hooper. They also had a boarder by the name of Mary Donovan. In the will of one of the Sullivans, they name my great-grandfather as sole beneficiary, but ask that he provide for SUSAN Hooper. Recently I have tried to untangle this story and figure out how everyone is related, but have had quite a difficult time of it. Asking the my oldest Aunt, she believes that the Hoopers were actually relatives of the boarder, Mary Donovan. So perhaps this is similar to what you have going on. Maybe Martha Esther Boyd is a relative of a close friend or perhaps a neighbor or fellow parishoner. Maybe it was a considerate charitable act on his part. Meaghan Killeen ______________ ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Marion Shephard [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CoTyIre] An intriguing puzzle. Hello everyone I wonder if anyone can help me solve this puzzle. I have a copy of my great great grandfathers will from PRONI, and have used it as a starting point to discover quite a lot about my family. He was William McCay of Rabstown, Urney and left his farm to his son William, a hefty sum to his unmarried daughter, who had recently given birth to my grandfather and in addition he left various smaller, bequests to family members, including two to his two sisters who had emigrated to Pittsburg and Philadelphia. I have managed to track down these two and their subsequent lives, but there is still one bequest that intrigues me. He asks his son 'That he also pay to Mary Nelson, of Pittsburg,US, the sum of five pounds for the benefit of the child of Martha Esther Boyd' I found a document in the parish records for Urney Cof I - 'Notes on Parishioners' from the 1870s, which lists households in the parish. William Sen is listed as a widower, with his son William and daughter Mary Anne. The two older sisters have emigrated by this time and another has married. There is also a Martha listed but with no indication of surname. Could this be Martha Esther Boyd, I wonder, or is it an extra daughter I have not come across before. Any Suggestions?? Regards Marion Shephard ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks for your comment John. I did come up with a similar senario and have been trying to find connections to Boyd and Nelson families in Urney and Pittsburg. I suspect I won't come up with anything definite but will be on the lookout for links. Regards Marion ----- Original Message ----- From: "John M. Collins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 4:59 AM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 8, Issue 196 > > > John Collins on the go. > > On 2013-07-24, at 3:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:36:41 +0100 >> From: "Marion Shephard" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [CoTyIre] An intriguing puzzle. >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hello everyone >> >> I wonder if anyone can help me solve this puzzle. I have a copy of my >> great great grandfathers will from PRONI, and have used it as a starting >> point to discover quite a lot about my family. He was William McCay of >> Rabstown, Urney and left his farm to his son William, a hefty sum to his >> unmarried daughter, who had recently given birth to my grandfather and in >> addition he left various smaller, bequests to family members, including >> two to his two sisters who had emigrated to Pittsburg and Philadelphia. I >> have managed to track down these two and their subsequent lives, but >> there is still one bequest that intrigues me. He asks his son 'That he >> also pay to Mary Nelson, of Pittsburg,US, the sum of five pounds for the >> benefit of the child of Martha Esther Boyd' >> >> I found a document in the parish records for Urney Cof I - 'Notes on >> Parishioners' from the 1870s, which lists households in the parish. >> William Sen is listed as a widower, with his son William and daughter >> Mary Anne. The two older sisters have emigrated by this time and another >> has married. There is also a Martha listed but with no indication of >> surname. Could this be Martha Esther Boyd, I wonder, or is it an extra >> daughter I have not come across before. >> >> Any Suggestions?? >> >> Regards Marion Shephard >> >> ------------------------------ >> > Hello Marion > > How about Martha being a servant (in service) and William or his son > having fathered a child by her? Her maiden name could be Boyd or that > might be her married name. > > Continuing the speculation, I would ask who Mary Nelson might be. Is she > one of the married daughters who went to the US? She might be a friend or > daughter of a friend who had migrated from the same community and knew the > whereabouts of Martha and the child. I could see the reluctance of having > a family member make contact of this sort. > > Another thought, was Martha still alive? Has she perhaps died and the > child was attached to the family of Mary Nelson? > > This and other speculations can lead to ideas to be checked out. They are > not, in and of themselves, any form of proof. > > Good luck on your search > > John Collins chasing the name COLLINS in the Cookstown & Stewartstown > areas in the early 1700-1735 period. > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Margaret, Was it John Gilmore who was the Holleran's first cousin, or was Mary Britt(on)s the Holleran cousin? Whichever it is, have you tried triangulating the Gilmore/Britt(on), Holleran, and Reilly names to see if you can find them in close proximity (same parish or adjoining parishes, perhaps)? Maybe that will help you narrow down a Galway or Mayo locale so you can dig more deeply into unofficial placenames, subdenomination names, and the like, and find one that looks / sounds like "Mahone." Claire K. On Aug 7, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Hooksett <[email protected]> wrote: > ...Irish cousins of mine, the Gilmores, lived in Oldham, > Lancashire, England for a few years…[In] the English census...The entire family is listed as born > in "Mahone, Ireland." > > Since these Gilmore family members from "Mahone" are close cousins to my > Holleran family, I'm hoping to pinpoint the location. ...Thomas Holleran... > arrived in New York in 1850, single, and on the same ship with his future > wife, Margaret A Reily/Reilly. They will marry on January 1, 1851... > > Peter Gilmore will be born July 27, 1862, in Oldham, Lancashire to John > Gilmore and Mary Britt or Britton. In 1899, he will marry Elizabeth > Holleran, younger sister of my great grandmother...2nd cousins. > > Any suggestions for "Mahone?" > ... > The name Holleran is NOT a common one and appears to be mostly concentrated > in the old Connaught Province, in Galway and Mayo. Alternate spellings like > Halloran are more widespread. ...
This is perhaps not really a Tyrone question, but I'm hoping someone here can help me sort out a location. A family of Irish cousins of mine, the Gilmores, lived in Oldham, Lancashire, England for a few years before moving on to Brooklyn, Kings County, New York State in the US. Often, the English census for my families who took that path has been very helpful, since the English census taker sometimes recorded a more complete place of birth, rather than just "Ireland." For this family, there is a little more information, but I have not yet been able to decipher it to my satisfaction. The entire family is listed as born in "Mahone, Ireland." Since these Gilmore family members from "Mahone" are close cousins to my Holleran family, I'm hoping to pinpoint the location. I do not have a place of birth in Ireland for my 2nd great grandfather, Thomas Holleran, who arrived in New York in 1850, single, and on the same ship with his future wife, Margaret A Reily/Reilly. They will marry on January 1, 1851, in Jersey City, New Jersey, and have 5 known children. Peter Gilmore will be born July 27, 1862, in Oldham, Lancashire to John Gilmore and Mary Britt or Britton. In 1899, he will marry Elizabeth Holleran, younger sister of my great grandmother. On their Roman Catholic marriage record, there is a dispensation for 3rd degree consanguinity in a collateral line, which I understand to mean 2nd cousins. Any suggestions for "Mahone?" I have found "Mahon" in County Cork. I have also found several Mahon variations in Galway: Ballyeighter (Mahon) Ballyglass (Mahon) Cregmahon Illaunmahon Killuppaun (Mahon) Lissyegan (Mahon) Loonaghtan (Mahon) The name Holleran is NOT a common one and appears to be mostly concentrated in the old Connaught Province, in Galway and Mayo. Alternate spellings like Halloran are more widespread. Any suggestions - even guesses - would be welcome. Thanks, as always, and apologies for the long post, Margaret Donnelly
I agree. Thank you all for your effort. This site and mailing list is really something special. Regards, Michael Kelly Emporium, Cameron County, Pennsylvania, United States of America -----Original Message----- From: ray15 Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 6:26 AM To: Jim McKane Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Abercorn Estate tenants 1777 in Manor of Donelong Once again, a HUGE "Thank You" to Len SWINDLEY for transcribing these records. These days I am a very lazy genealogist, just sitting back and doing no research myself, and just waiting for more gems to appear on the CTI web-site from the wonderful transcriptions by Len SWINDLEY and others. Once again, my MOORHEAD family surnames appear in this listing. I have no idea as to any possible connection between these people and mine, but feel sure that they will be connected; so these results go into my filing system along with so many other 'hits'; and will one day all fall into place. Having seen postings in the distant past by our dear Teena for both MOORHEAD and LOVE, and seeing both surnames appear in this transcription, I expect that they will definitely be her family. Good on you Teena. This CTI web-site is still a monument to your efforts in its formative years. I am SO grateful to ALL who provide transcriptions for the CTI web-site, for your/their selfless, altruistic, efforts to benefit all of us. I do HOPE that when people find helpful family surname listings in the CTI web-site, that they write personally to the transcriber to thank them for their efforts. Having spoken over the years with a few of them, I have been saddened to learn from them that most never hear from anyone. THANK YOU all. And of course a thank you to web-master Jim McKANE for notifying us of each new listing. Oh what a wonderful and valuable service; which many commercial interests would charge for; and we get it all free of charge. What wonderful people! Cheers. Ray in Oz On 07/08/2013, at 7:54 PM, Jim McKane <[email protected]> wrote: *Abercorn Estate*, Manor of Donelong (*Donagheady* Parish) Tenants 1777<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn.html> ------------- ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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No info on these specific people. But the parish of Lissan is one of those that straddles county borders, so part is in Co. Tyrone and the bulk is in Co. Derry. And yes, Derry and Londonderry are the same place. There are historical and political reasons for the difference in usage, but I don't want to attempt to go into all that on a smartphone keyboard. Derryloran and Cookstown are in the same area...i.e., you're talking about a geographically small area. Claire K. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:33 PM, "Fred Kligge" <[email protected]> wrote: > I and others have traced my 3rd great grandfather John Boone, son of Andrew from the Parish of Lissan "Co. Derry" [Londonderry?] to Rev. John Knox Leslie's Derryloran Parish Church, County Tyrone, to Dublin where he apparently died around 1859. Hopefully this information will help others and hopefully I can find more about this family in the Parish of Lissan. Brothers of John my be Samuel and Robert. > > Time Line: > > 1790 Andrew Boone born > 1813 (circa) Andrew Boone and Jane Art are married (my 4th great grandparents) > 1814 John Boone born in the Parish of Lissan > 1837 9 January, John Boone and Sarah "Sally" Espy are married in Cookstown (my 3rd great grandparents) > 1840 John and family moves to Dublin and John takes a job as policeman > 1841 June, Jane Boone is born (my 2nd great grandmother) > 1840s - 1860 Family attends St. Werburgh's Church, Dublin > 1842 December, Eliza Boone is born to John Boone and Sarah Espy > 1840s - 1860, Boone family first living at Copper Alley, Dublin and later at number 17 Castle Street, Dublin > 1840s, John takes a job in William Andrew's Woolen Warehouse, Castle Street. > 1844 1 October, William Boone is born to John Boone and Sarah Espy > 1844 29 December, William Boone is baptized at St. Werburgh's > 1849 circa 1 July, Sarah (Espy) Boone dies > 1849 2 July, Sarah (Espy) Boone is buried > 1850 7 January, John Boone marries Sarah Winslow, daughter of John Winslow and Eliza Devlin of County Tyrone (through a later marriage John and Eliza become my 3rd great grandparents) > 1858 - 1859 John Boone dies in Dublin? > 1860 - Remaining Boone family goes to the United States (I have much more on this) > > Does anyone have any information about the Boone and Art families in the Parish of Lissan? > > Thank you > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I and others have traced my 3rd great grandfather John Boone, son of Andrew from the Parish of Lissan "Co. Derry" [Londonderry?] to Rev. John Knox Leslie's Derryloran Parish Church, County Tyrone, to Dublin where he apparently died around 1859. Hopefully this information will help others and hopefully I can find more about this family in the Parish of Lissan. Brothers of John my be Samuel and Robert. Time Line: 1790 Andrew Boone born 1813 (circa) Andrew Boone and Jane Art are married (my 4th great grandparents) 1814 John Boone born in the Parish of Lissan 1837 9 January, John Boone and Sarah "Sally" Espy are married in Cookstown (my 3rd great grandparents) 1840 John and family moves to Dublin and John takes a job as policeman 1841 June, Jane Boone is born (my 2nd great grandmother) 1840s - 1860 Family attends St. Werburgh's Church, Dublin 1842 December, Eliza Boone is born to John Boone and Sarah Espy 1840s - 1860, Boone family first living at Copper Alley, Dublin and later at number 17 Castle Street, Dublin 1840s, John takes a job in William Andrew's Woolen Warehouse, Castle Street. 1844 1 October, William Boone is born to John Boone and Sarah Espy 1844 29 December, William Boone is baptized at St. Werburgh's 1849 circa 1 July, Sarah (Espy) Boone dies 1849 2 July, Sarah (Espy) Boone is buried 1850 7 January, John Boone marries Sarah Winslow, daughter of John Winslow and Eliza Devlin of County Tyrone (through a later marriage John and Eliza become my 3rd great grandparents) 1858 - 1859 John Boone dies in Dublin? 1860 - Remaining Boone family goes to the United States (I have much more on this) Does anyone have any information about the Boone and Art families in the Parish of Lissan? Thank you
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Mike, Thanks for the lead. It is interesting as the spelling of Stewart is as was for my grandfather, father, myself and also to my first born son. The shipping records had STUART which could have just been a spelling error as they were handwritten entries. Thanks again. Ron from Oz -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kelly [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013 8:37 PM To: Ron & Cheryl Scott; [email protected] Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] SCOTT Ron, Unfortunately the time frame for which you are researching is somewhat of a blank spot. Registrations for births, deaths, and marriages were not required until 1864/65 and anything happening prior to this are church records to my knowledge. There were many records lost through time which may have been able to provide you with the information you require. The only lead which I can offer you is to research your great grandfather's brother's line of your family by starting with this record and seeing where it leads you. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGXN-42Y Clogher was the neighboring parish and I believe this to be your best option at this time. Regards, Michael Kelly Emporium, Cameron County, Pennsylvania, United States of America -----Original Message----- From: Ron & Cheryl Scott Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 2:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CoTyIre] SCOTT It is some time since I asked a question to see if someone can help me. My G Grandfather Robert Scott emigrated to Australia arriving in 1856. Copies of shipping records show that he came from County Tyrone - Errigal Keerogue. The shipping records noted his father as Stuart and his mother as Margaret. Griffiths show a Margaret Scott in the above area, but no reference to Stuart Scott. I would assume that he may have died prior to the GV listing. I have searched all avenues that I can find on the internet without outlaying large amounts of monies but seem to have hit a wall. Ray who was with the Kiama Family History centre some time ago gave me much help early in my research as Robert lived in the Kangaroo Valley - South Coast area when he arrived in Australia. I have looked at the situation that most people with the Surname Scott would most likely have origins in Scotland, but this did not give me any leads. I also look forward to the ramblings of others and the answers given by all those that have a better understanding of the ancient systems than I do that appear in the listings as they arrive to my email. The people that give information freely should be congratulated for doing so without much chance of more than a basic thanks. Can anyone point towards where I should look next? Regards from Oz Ron Scott ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello again Ron, You will likely find the spelling both ways. There were no rules of spelling back then. People merely spelled surnames as they sounded or had seen them spelled before. Stuart is the French spelling of your Scotch surname Stewart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_(name) Seeing how Ireland was a melting pot for Normans, Scotts, and others It does make much sense there would be multiple correct ways to spell the same thing. You will possibly find incorrect ways as well. Such as the dialects from Maine to Florida change drastically or even in the same state. An example is in Pittsburgh, PA people say "yins" for "you all" and there are parts of the state which say "warsh" instead of "wash" and these are just two examples. On another note, my Tyrone ancestors were McKay and spelled as McCoy in most records in Northern Ireland. I was told McCoy is how they would pronounce McKay there. Occasionally there was McCay and very rarely McKay or McKee used, but mostly McCoy. Another example would be my Hough family from Galway. This surname would be pronounced "Huff" in England and Northern Ireland, but in Galway it was pronounce as "How" and was also spelled Haugh and Howe. Once my family was in Philadelphia they used the English spelling standards of their names. McKay was used as well as Howe and the other forms were not mentioned on any records at all. I had to figure this all out on my own doing research and asking others. It is such which makes genealogy all the more interesting. I sure wish you success in your search for your family in Tyrone. Regards, Michael Kelly Emporium, Cameron County, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Ron, Unfortunately the time frame for which you are researching is somewhat of a blank spot. Registrations for births, deaths, and marriages were not required until 1864/65 and anything happening prior to this are church records to my knowledge. There were many records lost through time which may have been able to provide you with the information you require. The only lead which I can offer you is to research your great grandfather's brother's line of your family by starting with this record and seeing where it leads you. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGXN-42Y Clogher was the neighboring parish and I believe this to be your best option at this time. Regards, Michael Kelly Emporium, Cameron County, Pennsylvania, United States of America -----Original Message----- From: Ron & Cheryl Scott Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 2:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CoTyIre] SCOTT It is some time since I asked a question to see if someone can help me. My G Grandfather Robert Scott emigrated to Australia arriving in 1856. Copies of shipping records show that he came from County Tyrone - Errigal Keerogue. The shipping records noted his father as Stuart and his mother as Margaret. Griffiths show a Margaret Scott in the above area, but no reference to Stuart Scott. I would assume that he may have died prior to the GV listing. I have searched all avenues that I can find on the internet without outlaying large amounts of monies but seem to have hit a wall. Ray who was with the Kiama Family History centre some time ago gave me much help early in my research as Robert lived in the Kangaroo Valley - South Coast area when he arrived in Australia. I have looked at the situation that most people with the Surname Scott would most likely have origins in Scotland, but this did not give me any leads. I also look forward to the ramblings of others and the answers given by all those that have a better understanding of the ancient systems than I do that appear in the listings as they arrive to my email. The people that give information freely should be congratulated for doing so without much chance of more than a basic thanks. Can anyone point towards where I should look next? Regards from Oz Ron Scott ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message