Re:  Mac Dhonnchaidh, Son of Donnchadh, variously anglicized as MacConochie, Conachie, McConkey, etc.   Is fíor do Mhac Giolla Iasacht, cinnte, ach … / MacLysaght is correct,  of course.  However, as pointed out by Robert Bell in his THE BOOK OF ULSTER SURNAMES on p. 54:  “There were also MacConochie septs of Clan Campbell, one of which, the MacConachies of Inverawe in Argyleshire, descend from the 14th century Duncan or Donachie Campbell of Lochow.  The Clan Gregor MacConachies descend from the three sons of Duncan, 17th chief of MacGregor, by his second wife.  There was also an old sept of MacConachies on the island of Bute.  In Ulster all this becomes very complicated.  As has already been stated, Donaghy is also an Irish name.  Duncan, though a Scottish name used as an anglicization of Donachie and MacConachie, has also in Ulster been used for the Irish Donoghue as well as Donegan and Dinkin.  Besides MacDonagh (Mac Donnchadha), Donaghy has also been used for Donohoe.  MacConaghy has been noted as a synonym of Conaty, MacConaughty, MacConnerty, and even Quinn.”   As noted on the R-M222 list some time back, most of these anglicizations are phantom surnames.  The actual, underlying surname for MacConochie et. al. is Mac Dhonnchaidh which, in turn, is a late medieval grammatical development of the earlier genitive form Mac Donnchadha.  Donnchadh is usually translated as Dark Warrior.  Donnchadha and Donnchaidh and Dhonnchaidh = of Dark Warrior.  Mac Donnchadha and Mac Donnchaidh and Mac Dhonnchaidh = Son of Dark Warrior.   Go raibh sé sin cabhrach  /  Hope that’s helpful, Gearóid / Jerry

Dates please......approx for Bertha Ann Have you done a search on the Tyrone site? Are you aware of the many different ways of spelling McConkey and are you searching for them as well.....McCanachey, Maconachie etc etc. Cheers Cathy On 27/12/13 9:15 AM, "Dennis Wright" <[email protected]> wrote: > I have been researching the Wright Family from Ballynafeagh , County Tyrone > and finally In a Biography of my Great Uncle Andrew I found His and my > Grandfather's Mother's name.. Bertha Ann McConkey. Unfortunately I cannot > find anything about her. Is anyone researching the McConkey family? > > Dennis Wright > > Las Vegas > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anyone had luck using excel spreadsheets to hold information?  If so, what is worth noting?  Peg S.

Bertha Ann McConkey, was Married to my Twice Great Grandfather James Wright and they had three children: William Wright b. 13 Oct 1938, James Wright b. 18 Dec 1939, and Andrew Wright b. 21 Feb 1942 . All were baptized at Brigh Presbyterian Church. Dennis

My Grandmothers parents were Robert Baker and Isabelle Louise Darrah of Plattsburgh New York. Isabelle's parents were Chauncey Goodrich Darrah and Fanny Adelia Densmore. Peru New York. Chauncey's parents were David Darrah and Elizabeth (Betsy) E. Allen. Peru New York. Last night I found out that David's parents were Samuel and Sarah Darrah of Litchfield New Hampshire. Samuels father Robert Darrah came from County Tyrone Northern Ireland about 1738 eventually settling in Litchfield NH. I'm hoping to find out more about Robert Darrah in County Tyrone. Laurie Beth Roman

I have been researching the Wright Family from Ballynafeagh , County Tyrone and finally In a Biography of my Great Uncle Andrew I found His and my Grandfather's Mother's name.. Bertha Ann McConkey. Unfortunately I cannot find anything about her. Is anyone researching the McConkey family? Dennis Wright Las Vegas

David, do you have any approximate dates for Andrew and Bertha Ann? Was McCONKEY his surname as well (& Wright her married surname?) - - - - - Clare L. On Dec 26, 2013, at 10:40 AM, "Dennis Wright" <[email protected]> wrote: > I have been researching the Wright Family from Ballynafeagh , County Tyrone > and finally In a Biography of my Great Uncle Andrew I found His and my > Grandfather's Mother's name.. Bertha Ann McConkey. Unfortunately I cannot > find anything about her. Is anyone researching the McConkey family? > > Dennis Wright > > Las Vegas > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been researching the Wright Family from Ballynafeagh , County Tyrone and finally In a Biography of my Great Uncle Andrew I found His and my Grandfather's Mother's name.. Bertha Ann McConkey. Unfortunately I cannot find anything about her. Is anyone researching the McConkey family? Dennis Wright Las Vegas

Hi, I support Ray, a most experienced researcher, in what he is saying about shaking as much information loose from the Australian and other records as you can. The more you do this the more profitable your time searching will be on the various Irish sites. The aim of my suggestions is to be so familiar with names that you can have many 'a ha' moments when looking through records rather than just skimming through over the course of an afternoon. For me this would include: A) Finding out about Irish naming conventions The 1st son was usually named after the father's father The 2nd son was usually named after the mother's father The 3rd son was usually named after the father The 4th son was usually named after the father's eldest brother The 5th son was usually named after the mother's eldest brother The 1st daughter was usually named after the mother's mother The 2nd daughter was usually named after the father's mother The 3rd daughter was usually named after the mother The 4th daughter was usually named after the mother's eldest sister The 5th daughter was usually named after the father's eldest sister B) Noting the information about the family's religion in Australia - RC, Presbyterian Church of Ireland? Important to know this in Irish searching. c) Making lists of the names and dates of birth of the siblings John, William, Margaret, Susan, Alexander and James and children of the siblings who came to Australia. I feel sure that they will all have followed, to an extent, the Irish naming conventions. I think if the parents had died in Ireland before the younger ones emigrated they would be especially likely to remember, in their naming patterns their parents and possibly grandparents. The Irish, though not as likely to follow conventions rigidly (being Irish!) do tend to remember these type of events in their children's names. To help in my searches I keep an excel spreadsheet listing the names/dates of birth and where /who they were named for. Just a few comments spring out already.... The youngest James may have been named for an older brother who died. Not knowing the dates of birth for William or Margaret it would seem a large gap to cover between 1822 and 1836 - 14 years and only 2 children. You have not advised how you know both parents had died in Ireland when the later three emigrated. In NZ, admittedly, it was common for older family members to sponsor out younger siblings and this did not imply that the parents were dead. I mention this because 1856 is quite close, relatively speaking, to when civil registration of BDMs in Ireland began (about 1864) and if you do not know for certain then a search on FS for the Irish parents may find them. D) armed with the excel spreadsheet I would next do a search on the Irish census of 1901 and 1911. Even though these are well after the time when some of the family emigrated some may have stayed behind and they will be following Irish naming patterns and additionally will often remember the children who emigrated in the names of their own children in Ireland. Also when you are looking in the census you will be looking for the oldest ones alive in 1901 as they may be siblings/cousins of the ones who left to go to Australia. Not necessarily looking only at Tyrone records but look for Simpson then look at all the oldest ones and note their locations and the names of the children who are still living with them. Some times you get multi generational families. I have had a quick peek and have found a 72 year old James (born 1829) in Seskinore in Tyrone who has a son called James Alexander (known as Alexander). They were Church of Ireland. Also a David Simpson born 1831 who has two of his daughters with Maggie and Lizzie as names. E) again armed with the excel spreadsheet I would look on the site for Griffiths Valuation. The site is down at the moment for maintenance. GV was a listing of all the land/landownership carried out by Mr Griffiths across Ireland in the 1850s. So if James Simpson, the father, owned or leased land his name will be on this list. To do a check (triangulate) I search for the spouse's family as well. Normally/generally they will be in the same locality. So if you find a James Simpson in a town land in Tyrone then often you will find an XXX Thompson holding land nearby. I did a quick look on Ancestry and there is an Alexander Thompson holding land in GV. On another database the common parish in Tyrone for a James Simpson and an Alexander Thompson is Carnteel. Alexander Thompson is in Derrycreevy as is this James Simpson. F) While this may be the people you have only one snippet that links both of these families to Tyrone. Hopefully you will take Ray up on his offer to look at the writing! Presumably you have got all the marriage and death certificates for the Australian siblings to see if any have a place of birth other than Ireland ad to see if any of them have extra first names? Don't forget to search the whole of the wonderful Tyrone site where I found this gem - book Simpson sons and daughters, 1735-1986 : descendants of Thomas Simpson and Elizabeth McFarland of the Scottish Lowlands and County Tyrone, Ireland / compiled by Waunita Farrier Groh. 1986  http://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/killymanbaptisms.html heaps of Simpson baptisms but you will need to check and double check that the parents names (James/Mary) are correct. http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/killyman.html http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/aghaloo.html http://www.cotyroneireland.com/places/freeholderreg.html Cheers and Merry Christmas from Cathy in NZ On 24/12/13 10:11 AM, "marg o'leary" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you very much for that. > > I do have the Australian information already, there is some discrepancy > between records at different times giving birth places, but Tyrone is the most > consistent for the family overall. Certainly William worked as a blacksmith > later as did his brother John. > > What I am needing is information about the Tyrone end please. > > > > regards > > Marg OLeary > Port Stephens > NSW > > [email protected] > also [email protected] > > From: ray15 > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 9:20 PM > To: marg o'leary > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Simpson family of Tyrone, Omagh 1850s to Australia > > Hello Marg, and welcome to the CountyTyroneIreland (CTI) list. > > I will probably make a few different postings to the list, to try to help you. > But as most of what I want to say has been posted previously, to save time and > effort I will try to find hyperlinks to those relevant responses to other > people, and post those links for you. > > For the moment though, I have looked online at the NSW State Records listings. > One item which you mention is that William SIMPSON arrived in 1853 with his > wife Eliza -- and if I have the correct people, also with their 1-year-old son > William. > The State Records' free online indexes show TWO separate arrivals in 1853 for > a William SIMPSON and family. One did not have a wife named Eliza, and they > all came from Fifeshire in Scotland. > > The only family shown arriving in 1853 (I accepted that year given by you as > their year of ARRIVAL in Oz -- so did not check the 1854 arrivals for William > SIMPSONs), arrived on the Talavera in September 1853. That one shows William > as a Laborer. If he was a Blacksmith I'd have expected that to be shown > instead of Laborer, as surely there would have been an ongoing need for > blacksmiths in oz at that time. Anyway, that shipping list gives HIS > birthplace/native-place as being in County Monaghan; his wife's as being in > County Armagh; and their son's as being in Belfast, County Antrim. So he is > not showing any County Tyrone connection there. It was usual to marry in the > wife's parish; so you might find a marriage for them in County Armagh. > Or, as their son was born in Belfast, it is possible that they might have met > and married in Belfast itself (the wife's parish church at that stage of her > life might have been in Belfast if she had moved away from her birthplace). > > Here is a hyperlink to the page from the "Kate" showing the arrival of this > family, and the above information: > > http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4791/Talavera_5 > Sep 1853/4_479100062.jpg&No=5 > > I have not done the search myself, but have a look here at > www.familysearch.org for the MARRIAGE of William and Eliza, as that might give > you other info. > > This same link might have marriages for others in the family too. : > > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347 > > > > I tried a similar exercise for the John SIMPSON who you say 'migrated' in > 1849. > The only ARRIVAL in oz by that name who I can see listed on the NSW State > Records' online indexes, arrived in Dec 1849 and came from Yorkshire. > > Here is a hyperlink to the page from where I obtained that information: > > http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4786/Blonde_27 > Dec 1849/4_478600460.jpg&No=9 > > >> From the foregoing, it seems to me that there are families here which seem to >> bear no relationship to each other --- or else I am misunderstanding what you >> have written, or I am conducting faulty searches (always a possibility. >> haha). > > I have therefore not tried searching any further, but you can try to find > Margaret KNIGHT's arrival the same way and see what it says for her. > > Good luck with it. > ray in oz > > > On 23/12/2013, at 7:21 PM, marg o'leary <[email protected]> wrote: > > hi all, > > am new to the list and hoping for some pointers to researching in Tyrone. > > The family I am tracking is that of James Simpson married to Mary Thompson. > Possibly of Omagh. > > I don't know how many children they had all told - but the following went to > Australia. > > John migrated age 27 in 1849 , so born about 1822, which would make his > parents born abt 1795 perhaps. > > William followed in 1853 with wife Eliza Thompson, I think these men were > blacksmiths. > > A sister Margaret (mrs Knight) arrived before 1856 > > and the last three children, Susan 20, Alexander 18 and James 16 arrived in > 1856, and certainly when they arrived, both parents were deceased. They were > sponsored by the tow older brothers. > > Alexander had the name of the place he was born as something that reads like > Delgr Tyrone, and I wonder what that was. > > I would really like to know more of this family's background in Ireland and > if there were more family members. > > Most grateful about advice of where to look. > > regards > > Marg OLeary > Port Stephens > NSW > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hopefully this will be my last reply to the list in following up my promised extra snippets of info. This one is to once again provide the URL for Boyd GRAY's free online guidebook to Irish research. Here is the URL for it: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/genbooklet.pdf AND to Catherine TREWBY in NZ: Thanks for the nice 'wrap' Cathy; and for providing Marg with so much top quality information. Whenever I start working on trying to break down my own many brick walls, I will come running to you for assistance! Your knowledge and approach are both just wonderful. Season's Greetings again to all. ray in oz On 23/12/2013, at 7:21 PM, marg o'leary <[email protected]> wrote: … am new to the list and hoping for some pointers to researching in Tyrone. The family I am tracking is that of James Simpson married to Mary Thompson. Possibly of Omagh. I don't know how many children they had all told - but the following went to Australia. John migrated age 27 in 1849 , so born about 1822, which would make his parents born abt 1795 perhaps. William followed in 1853 with wife Eliza Thompson, I think these men were blacksmiths. A sister Margaret (mrs Knight) arrived before 1856 and the last three children, Susan 20, Alexander 18 and James 16 arrived in 1856, and certainly when they arrived, both parents were deceased. They were sponsored by the tow older brothers. Alexander had the name of the place he was born as something that reads like Delgr Tyrone, and I wonder what that was. I would really like to know more of this family's background in Ireland and if there were more family members. Most grateful about advice of where to look. … Marg OLeary … NSW

Hello yet again Marg and any listers still reading this thread. Here is a link to a brief summary which I wrote years ago to another list, about the Immigration Deposit Journals in NSW, Oz; and the Indexes to those Journals. It was written in response to someone's query, but in reading it through you should be able to extract the relevant information to apply to your own research. (I did think that I had written something much more comprehensive about it, but cannot find it; anyhow this will hopefully point the way towards how to use these wonderful resources.) http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/fermanagh-gold/2008-02/1204278990 Ray in oz On 23/12/2013, at 7:21 PM, marg o'leary <[email protected]> wrote: hi all, am new to the list and hoping for some pointers to researching in Tyrone. The family I am tracking is that of James Simpson married to Mary Thompson. Possibly of Omagh. I don't know how many children they had all told - but the following went to Australia. John migrated age 27 in 1849 , so born about 1822, which would make his parents born abt 1795 perhaps. William followed in 1853 with wife Eliza Thompson, I think these men were blacksmiths. A sister Margaret (mrs Knight) arrived before 1856 and the last three children, Susan 20, Alexander 18 and James 16 arrived in 1856, and certainly when they arrived, both parents were deceased. They were sponsored by the tow older brothers. Alexander had the name of the place he was born as something that reads like Delgr Tyrone, and I wonder what that was. I would really like to know more of this family's background in Ireland and if there were more family members. Most grateful about advice of where to look. regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW -------------

Oh Rob!!!! What a wonderful xmas gift you have presented here!!!! I have been absolutely lost, ever since discovering that the old seanruad site had closed. So how marvellous to have it suddenly appear here again. Yay!!!!!! THANK YOU so much, Rob. May you receive xmas gifts which give you as much delight as this one has given me. Seasons Greetings to all on the list. Regards. Ray in oz On 24/12/2013, at 11:06 AM, Rob Doragh <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Marg and others, Another helpful site is at http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/ This is the old Sean Ruad site moved to a new base. In the Townland box put D. Then change search method to At Beginning of Field. Put Tyrone in the County box and hitting Submit will give you all the townlands in Tyrone beginning with D. There is no Delgr but Dergalt is a possibility. Have a look at the list for yourself and remember that the person who gave the name in may have had a strong Tyrone accent and the listener may have written down what they thought was the placename, Rob Doragh Liverpool UK -------------

For Marg O'LEARY and anyone else new to the list. Here is the URL to a page on the CTI web-site, which is the jumping-off point to placenames in the whole of Northern Ireland which a wonderfully generous man by the name of Bruce ANDREWS has compiled and allowed to be posted on the web-site. http://cotyroneireland.com/places/placeindex.html To Marg O'LEARY, your placename started with D, so by clicking on "D" here, you will be taken to all placenames starting with D. By working down the list, picking out those which are shown as being in Tyrone, you MIGHT find something close to what you have seen in the record. HTH. ray in oz

Hi Listers, Endevering to help son in law with his family tree and looking for the following names Georeg Hanna Farmer of Derryloughan(Mt Joy) and his wife Maria nee Fox born c 1860 The Quinn's were also of Derrloughan (Mt Joy) Henry Taggart of Omagh and went to new York similar vintage James Quinn 1855 married Susan Mc Cann of Eden Dark in 1881 Keen to hear from anyone else researching these names please Wishing you all a Happy Christmas Olwyn

Marg. What I was attempting to do in my earlier reply, was to look at the oz information, in order to find more detail in oz about their Irish place of origin. That is why I went to the online info at State Records. In most cases, we will have MORE info here in Oz, in order to find their true place of origin, than will readily be available in Ireland. As you have a LOT of members of the family arriving in oz; then it is VERY likely that very detailed searching in all of the oz records of each such family member who arrived here -- including shipping arrival information, and marriages and deaths here, as well as births here of other children --- will provide really good info for you. Once you have that info, then it is much easier and quicker to zero in on the Irish records in Tyrone or elsewhere. You had initially written: "… Alexander had the name of the place he was born as something that reads like Delgr Tyrone, and I wonder what that was. … " I had especially been hoping that I might have been able to find that record online, so that I could look at it myself, to try to interpret that Delgr place-name for myself. But I couldn't find it there. If you are able to make a scan of that entry and send it to my private e-mail address above (because rootsweb will not permit any attachments), then I could look at it and see if I might help with interpreting it. cheers. ray in oz On 24/12/2013, at 7:11 AM, "marg o'leary" <[email protected]> wrote: Thank you very much for that. I do have the Australian information already, there is some discrepancy between records at different times giving birth places, but Tyrone is the most consistent for the family overall. Certainly William worked as a blacksmith later as did his brother John. What I am needing is information about the Tyrone end please. regards Marg OLeary …

Thank you very much for that. I do have the Australian information already, there is some discrepancy between records at different times giving birth places, but Tyrone is the most consistent for the family overall. Certainly William worked as a blacksmith later as did his brother John. What I am needing is information about the Tyrone end please. regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW [email protected] also [email protected] From: ray15 Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 9:20 PM To: marg o'leary Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Simpson family of Tyrone, Omagh 1850s to Australia Hello Marg, and welcome to the CountyTyroneIreland (CTI) list. I will probably make a few different postings to the list, to try to help you. But as most of what I want to say has been posted previously, to save time and effort I will try to find hyperlinks to those relevant responses to other people, and post those links for you. For the moment though, I have looked online at the NSW State Records listings. One item which you mention is that William SIMPSON arrived in 1853 with his wife Eliza -- and if I have the correct people, also with their 1-year-old son William. The State Records' free online indexes show TWO separate arrivals in 1853 for a William SIMPSON and family. One did not have a wife named Eliza, and they all came from Fifeshire in Scotland. The only family shown arriving in 1853 (I accepted that year given by you as their year of ARRIVAL in Oz -- so did not check the 1854 arrivals for William SIMPSONs), arrived on the Talavera in September 1853. That one shows William as a Laborer. If he was a Blacksmith I'd have expected that to be shown instead of Laborer, as surely there would have been an ongoing need for blacksmiths in oz at that time. Anyway, that shipping list gives HIS birthplace/native-place as being in County Monaghan; his wife's as being in County Armagh; and their son's as being in Belfast, County Antrim. So he is not showing any County Tyrone connection there. It was usual to marry in the wife's parish; so you might find a marriage for them in County Armagh. Or, as their son was born in Belfast, it is possible that they might have met and married in Belfast itself (the wife's parish church at that stage of her life might have been in Belfast if she had moved away from her birthplace). Here is a hyperlink to the page from the "Kate" showing the arrival of this family, and the above information: http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4791/Talavera_5 Sep 1853/4_479100062.jpg&No=5 I have not done the search myself, but have a look here at www.familysearch.org for the MARRIAGE of William and Eliza, as that might give you other info. This same link might have marriages for others in the family too. : https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347 I tried a similar exercise for the John SIMPSON who you say 'migrated' in 1849. The only ARRIVAL in oz by that name who I can see listed on the NSW State Records' online indexes, arrived in Dec 1849 and came from Yorkshire. Here is a hyperlink to the page from where I obtained that information: http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4786/Blonde_27 Dec 1849/4_478600460.jpg&No=9 >From the foregoing, it seems to me that there are families here which seem to bear no relationship to each other --- or else I am misunderstanding what you have written, or I am conducting faulty searches (always a possibility. haha). I have therefore not tried searching any further, but you can try to find Margaret KNIGHT's arrival the same way and see what it says for her. Good luck with it. ray in oz On 23/12/2013, at 7:21 PM, marg o'leary <[email protected]> wrote: hi all, am new to the list and hoping for some pointers to researching in Tyrone. The family I am tracking is that of James Simpson married to Mary Thompson. Possibly of Omagh. I don't know how many children they had all told - but the following went to Australia. John migrated age 27 in 1849 , so born about 1822, which would make his parents born abt 1795 perhaps. William followed in 1853 with wife Eliza Thompson, I think these men were blacksmiths. A sister Margaret (mrs Knight) arrived before 1856 and the last three children, Susan 20, Alexander 18 and James 16 arrived in 1856, and certainly when they arrived, both parents were deceased. They were sponsored by the tow older brothers. Alexander had the name of the place he was born as something that reads like Delgr Tyrone, and I wonder what that was. I would really like to know more of this family's background in Ireland and if there were more family members. Most grateful about advice of where to look. regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW

Hello Marg and others, Another helpful site is at http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/ This is the old Sean Ruad site moved to a new base. In the Townland box put D. Then change search method to At Beginning of Field. Put Tyrone in the County box and hitting Submit will give you all the townlands in Tyrone beginning with D. There is no Delgr but Dergalt is a possibility. Have a look at the list for yourself and remember that the person who gave the name in may have had a strong Tyrone accent and the listener may have written down what they thought was the placename, Rob Doragh Liverpool UK

Good evening Mike, Sorry it's taken so long to give you feedback but I've not been able to chase up the potential leads till now due to work demands. I've been "back on the case" and followed the advice below. Unfortunately, the records were not the correct ones. Checking who the results below were married to (in the death certificates produced) completely different names. I do (however) have a new option in trying to trace where exactly in County Tyrone the McGachan's came from. I have been in the Mitchell Library in Glasgow, Scotland and found that for a one off fee (of £15) you can access unlimited amounts of records for a whole day (in Scotland's People database). I have now lined up access for a day in early January which will allow me to check the many possible matches that I might find. May take a while - but worth a shot! It could be that William and Mary went back to Tyrone, but I will now access much more records come January to narrow things down. Thanks once again for your input. Really appreciate it. I will hopefully have something to report back from (where exactly in Tyrone my family history leads to) soon........... Have a great Christmas and New Year. Regards, Craig Ryan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Kelly" <[email protected]> To: "Craig Ryan" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] McGachans of Gargadis, County Tyrone > Craig, > > I went onto Scotland's People and went to the Statutory Registers. There I > chose deaths, entered the surname McGahan with Fuzzy match option, the > forename William, chose male with years ranging from 1881 -1921, Birth > year 1832 + or - 5 years, enterd All Records under city etc, and Airdrie > for District. It gave back 1 match. > > I tried using the name Maria and it give no matches at all. > Then again for Mary, but I used surname variants as the option for her > still using McGahan. Birth year 1836 + or - 5 years, chose female with the > same year range 1881 -1921, same district Airdrie, no specified city just > all records. I got one match. > > I do not have credits with the site to tell you how close these matches > are, but I thought you may find them yourself using the same format. > > > Regards, > > Michael Kelly > > Emporium, > Cameron County, > Pennsylvania, > United States of America > > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig Ryan > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:30 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] McGachans of Gargadis, County Tyrone > > Hello Mike, > thanks a lot for the help. > > At this point of research, I'm slightly further forward - > but not fully there yet! > > Plus point - I finally found the wedding record of > William > and Mary. > > The names are listed in Scotland's People database as > follows: > Gulielmus William McGachie married Maria Mary Cumming. > > The date is listed as 3rd January 1853. That ties in with > their first born child (my great great grandfather) James McGachan on 29th > December 1853. Their marriage, and his baptism were both recorded in St > Margaret's Roman Catholic Church in Airdrie, Lanarkshire, Scotland. > > They are listed as County Tyrone, Ireland, but in the > (barely) legible electronic copy I have it does look like her maiden > surname > is Cunningham. I might have to visit the chapel itself. > > I have searched Scotland's People site for deaths of > both > of them, without success. As mentioned, my last trace of them is > Lanarkshire > in the 1881 census. > > I have found no deaths with anyone similar in the > Glasgow/Lanarkshire area with names of Gahan, McGahan, McGachan, McGachie, > McGaehen etc from 1881 to 1921. > > I have paid for some records only to find they are not > who I am looking for. > > My next point of call will be to check records in the > Mitchell Library in Glasgow, or even check passenger lists. Maybe they > went > back to County Tyrone in later life? > > I do need a death certificate to try and source parents > names. That will take me back to County Tyrone and solve it once and for > all. > > Thanks again for the help. Nearly there I suppose. > > Craig. > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.2308, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.21450) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.2308, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.21460) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.2308, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.21710) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

hi all, am new to the list and hoping for some pointers to researching in Tyrone. The family I am tracking is that of James Simpson married to Mary Thompson. Possibly of Omagh. I don't know how many children they had all told - but the following went to Australia. John migrated age 27 in 1849 , so born about 1822, which would make his parents born abt 1795 perhaps. William followed in 1853 with wife Eliza Thompson, I think these men were blacksmiths. A sister Margaret (mrs Knight) arrived before 1856 and the last three children, Susan 20, Alexander 18 and James 16 arrived in 1856, and certainly when they arrived, both parents were deceased. They were sponsored by the tow older brothers. Alexander had the name of the place he was born as something that reads like Delgr Tyrone, and I wonder what that was. I would really like to know more of this family's background in Ireland and if there were more family members. Most grateful about advice of where to look. regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW

Hello Marg, and welcome to the CountyTyroneIreland (CTI) list. I will probably make a few different postings to the list, to try to help you. But as most of what I want to say has been posted previously, to save time and effort I will try to find hyperlinks to those relevant responses to other people, and post those links for you. For the moment though, I have looked online at the NSW State Records listings. One item which you mention is that William SIMPSON arrived in 1853 with his wife Eliza -- and if I have the correct people, also with their 1-year-old son William. The State Records' free online indexes show TWO separate arrivals in 1853 for a William SIMPSON and family. One did not have a wife named Eliza, and they all came from Fifeshire in Scotland. The only family shown arriving in 1853 (I accepted that year given by you as their year of ARRIVAL in Oz -- so did not check the 1854 arrivals for William SIMPSONs), arrived on the Talavera in September 1853. That one shows William as a Laborer. If he was a Blacksmith I'd have expected that to be shown instead of Laborer, as surely there would have been an ongoing need for blacksmiths in oz at that time. Anyway, that shipping list gives HIS birthplace/native-place as being in County Monaghan; his wife's as being in County Armagh; and their son's as being in Belfast, County Antrim. So he is not showing any County Tyrone connection there. It was usual to marry in the wife's parish; so you might find a marriage for them in County Armagh. Or, as their son was born in Belfast, it is possible that they might have met and married in Belfast itself (the wife's parish church at that stage of her life might have been in Belfast if she had moved away from her birthplace). Here is a hyperlink to the page from the "Kate" showing the arrival of this family, and the above information: http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4791/Talavera_5 Sep 1853/4_479100062.jpg&No=5 I have not done the search myself, but have a look here at www.familysearch.org for the MARRIAGE of William and Eliza, as that might give you other info. This same link might have marriages for others in the family too. : https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347 I tried a similar exercise for the John SIMPSON who you say 'migrated' in 1849. The only ARRIVAL in oz by that name who I can see listed on the NSW State Records' online indexes, arrived in Dec 1849 and came from Yorkshire. Here is a hyperlink to the page from where I obtained that information: http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4786/Blonde_27 Dec 1849/4_478600460.jpg&No=9 From the foregoing, it seems to me that there are families here which seem to bear no relationship to each other --- or else I am misunderstanding what you have written, or I am conducting faulty searches (always a possibility. haha). I have therefore not tried searching any further, but you can try to find Margaret KNIGHT's arrival the same way and see what it says for her. Good luck with it. ray in oz On 23/12/2013, at 7:21 PM, marg o'leary <[email protected]> wrote: hi all, am new to the list and hoping for some pointers to researching in Tyrone. The family I am tracking is that of James Simpson married to Mary Thompson. Possibly of Omagh. I don't know how many children they had all told - but the following went to Australia. John migrated age 27 in 1849 , so born about 1822, which would make his parents born abt 1795 perhaps. William followed in 1853 with wife Eliza Thompson, I think these men were blacksmiths. A sister Margaret (mrs Knight) arrived before 1856 and the last three children, Susan 20, Alexander 18 and James 16 arrived in 1856, and certainly when they arrived, both parents were deceased. They were sponsored by the tow older brothers. Alexander had the name of the place he was born as something that reads like Delgr Tyrone, and I wonder what that was. I would really like to know more of this family's background in Ireland and if there were more family members. Most grateful about advice of where to look. regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW