Hey Ed. I can't believe that it's been 13 years since the congress. It was a great gathering, especially given the fact that it was less than a week after 9/11. The list of dates from wikipedia are a little suspect. It says 1853 for Tipperary and I know that the actual surveys were being done much earlier than that. I think 1853 might be when the whole process was complete for the county, including challenges to assessments. I found a Martin Hough living in the area around Lorrha in a field book with a date of 1846. He and his family left for Canada in 1847 and if I remember correctly, his name was struck out on the field book and he was not included in the actual printed Griffiths Valuation. The surveys for County Tipperary were among the first completed because Griffith and his crews were already working in the area under an old law. Once the law was passed under which the Primary Valuation was conducted, they just regrouped and continued in the county. A great paperback called Richard Griffith and His Valuations of Ireland by James R Reilly goes through all the work that Griffith did, starting in the 1820's. Plus it gives a wonderful explanation of how to interpret what you see. It's reasonably priced and once you're finished with it, you can donate it to your local genealogical library. Theresa In a message dated 8/19/2014 10:53:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, edmadden@spiritone.com writes: Great question Tina and important to know! The "completion" date of Griffith's for Co Tipperary was 29 June 1853 according to this (all the other counties too): _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffith%27s_Valuation_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffith's_Valuation) Teresa gave wonderful info on finding the "scribed (data collected)" date. Teresa & I went "to school" together! Way back in Sept 2001 we met at Trinity College Dublin for the 10 day 4th (& final?) Irish Genealogical Congress. Here are a few links to excellent information on understanding GPV: 1. The GPV with originals & maps at http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ 2. Article, PDF: Is There More in Griffith's Valuation Than Just Names? http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF 3. Web; Griffith’s Valuation House Books at http://timeline.ie/griffiths-valuation-house-books/ 4. Web; Griffith's Valuation - Revision Books, Cancelled Books & Current Land Books at http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/revision-books.html 5. Lesson; Module 6: Intro to Griffith's Valuation at http://www.boydhouse.com/alice/Carey/careyclassmodule6.html Ed Madden Ridgefield, WA On 8/18/2014 9:43 PM, Theresa Liewer via wrote: One way would be to look at the handwritten tenure, house and field books that the surveyors did for the valuation. They are dated by the surveyor. They've been microfilmed by the Family History Library - 355 rolls in total. You can order the film out to a local Family History Center but the problem is that the records for the Barony of Lower Ormond are in multiple rolls with no detail of which roll has a specific parish. The good news is that the National Archives of Ireland is digitizing their copies and they supposedly will be on their website, perhaps even this year. There's no way of knowing when it will actually happen - the 1901 and 1911 census took an extra year. If you're willing to be patient, you'll eventually see them. If you want to try ordering the microfilm, email me and I can walk you through how to find them in the catalog. Theresa Liewer Ankeny, Iowa On Aug 18, 2014, at 10:05 PM, TnT Cole via _<cotipperary@rootsweb.com>_ (mailto:cotipperary@rootsweb.com) wrote: Hello, Listers. Can someone please help me shortcut finding a source for years Griffith's Valuation was being scribed (data collected)...not the year published. Specifically looking for: Co: Tipperary, North Riding, Barony: Ormond, Lower, Union: Borrisokane, Parish: Terryglass. THANKS! TinaMichigan