Dear Liz—Your comment about “Edmond” has struck a bell. The only other person in my generation of the family who was an ardent family historian argued that our grandfather’s name must have been “Edmund” rather than “Edmond,” based on her theory that the former was the Irish spelling and the latter the English. I was pleased to be able to clinch my contention that “Edmond” was the correct spelling when I came across a letter written by our grandfather in 1875 in which he quotes his mother (Anastasia Russell, 1795-1874) addressing him by name. I have always thought that the name entered the Bohan line (I had a number of Bohan first cousins and descendants given the name) because of Anastasia Russell and that it was long a Russell family name before that. That thought leads to another one. One of my father’s first cousins was named Michael Bohan Russell (son of one of my grandfather’s two sisters who married Russells who traveled across the Atlantic with them). He grew up in Blue Earth County, Minnesota, and his bio is featured in the county book published around 1910. It reported him to be a strong supporter of Ireland, which won over his Irish neighbors who had initially been suspicious of him because of “his English surname” (Russell). —Tom Today's Topics: 1. Russells of North Tipperary (Thomas L Bohan) 2. Re: Russells of North Tipperary (ElizaR) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Liz?My great-grandmother was Anastasia Russell, born in Templetouhy about 1795. She wed Michael Bohan of Collegehill (Templemore) in 1820 and emigrated to America (Wisconsin) in 1846 with her 9 children, including her youngest, my grandfather Edmond Russell Bohan, 1839-1905. FWIW.?Tom P.S. They went directly to Wisconsin because her Russell relatives (including Patrick, of singer Tom Russell fame) had gone there in 1841. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 22:32:27 -0400 From: ElizaR <lizbon@optonline.net> Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Russells of North Tipperary To: Thomas L Bohan <tbohan2@maine.rr.com>, cotipperary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <622C6976FCA344B29B70AA27EEDA7187@ERussell> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=Windows-1252; reply-type=original Thanks Thomas. Edmond seems to have been a popular name in Tipperary. I once read that the spelling Edmond shows that the family had strong Norman roots as it it more of a French spelling. On the other hand, if the spelling is Edmund, it shows more of an Anglo origin. Don't know how true it is, plus don't know how many could spell in the time frame we are working in. Liz -----Original Message----- From: Thomas L Bohan via Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 6:20 PM To: cotipperary@rootsweb.com Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Russells of North Tipperary Thomas L Bohan tbohan2@maine.rr.com 2073181170 --
Tom, I don't think it was English. There is a family of Russell from Adare and Limerick City and theirs is an anglicization of Creevagh or Creagh. Janet On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Thomas L Bohan via < cotipperary@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Liz—Your comment about “Edmond” has struck a bell. The only other > person in my generation of the family who was an ardent family historian > argued that our grandfather’s name must have been “Edmund” rather than > “Edmond,” based on her theory that the former was the Irish spelling and > the latter the English. I was pleased to be able to clinch my contention > that “Edmond” was the correct spelling when I came across a letter written > by our grandfather in 1875 in which he quotes his mother (Anastasia > Russell, 1795-1874) addressing him by name. I have always thought that > the name entered the Bohan line (I had a number of Bohan first cousins and > descendants given the name) because of Anastasia Russell and that it was > long a Russell family name before that. > > That thought leads to another one. One of my father’s first cousins was > named Michael Bohan Russell (son of one of my grandfather’s two sisters who > married Russells who traveled across the Atlantic with them). He grew up in > Blue Earth County, Minnesota, and his bio is featured in the county book > published around 1910. It reported him to be a strong supporter of > Ireland, which won over his Irish neighbors who had initially been > suspicious of him because of “his English surname” (Russell). —Tom > > >