Ann, I have been able to match up the 10 known illegitimate children of my 3rd great-grandfather with baptisms in Murroe parish, and others, with their natural mothers [and with him as the father] and with the 2nd baptisms, call them "adoptions", with him again and his legal wife, some of which indicate the child's natural mother's name in the priest's notes. The child's given name stays the same, but the mother's name changes. I understand that in many parishes these baptism-adoptions took place at midnight for privacy's sake. Janet On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:41 PM, AnnL7777 via <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> wrote: > What evidence is there of a 2nd baptism? That would never happen. > Baptism is good for life. > Ann > > > In a message dated 8/10/2014 12:04:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Janet > Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> writes: > > > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:01:45 +0100 > From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] (no subject) > To: "tomelliott@talktalk.net" <tomelliott@talktalk.net>, > cotipperary@rootsweb.com > > Hi Tom, From the experience with my 3rd great-grandfather and his hoard of > children, I can give you a few hints to follow up. > First, if Honora Power was the child's natural mother, she is having her > child baptized in her own parish. Her birth record should be there. Thomas > Elliott may or may not be from the same parish. If Thomas was married, he > would have married in his wife's parish, which may be another one > entirely. > At some point - from that very same day up to 14 years later, Thomas and > his legal wife may have "adopted" his child, James. It will be the 2nd > baptism for James and will include no indication of his age at that point > unless the priest happened to make a note. This baptism will probably > occur > in the parish in which Thomas and his wife are living. > It is very likely that Thomas will give money to James to emigrate as he > will have no chance to inherit the home farm as that would disrupt the > dowry and inheritance scheme of Thomas and his legal wife and her father > and her dowry. I would look for an emigration from 16 years up to some > years later and likely a paid passage. > None of these actions mean that James was not loved by his father and > likely his natural mother and step-mother as well. It is the way religion > and life worked in old Ireland. > > Janet > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >