On the subject of Church records. I have seen illigit. and pauper written. Also seen where the father's name should have been written - anybodys. I believe children born outside of marriage were baptised at midnight, in the distant past. On the 1901 Census of Ireland, a question was asked - Was there anyone in the household classed as an Imbecile a Lunatic or an Idiot. The Psychiatric hospitals were called Lunatic Assylums. At that time, nobody saw it as offensive to use those words. The word bastard was another word in everyday language. I still think that Church records should be freely available to the people. They belong to the people. Bee.