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    1. [COTIPPERARY] Out of wedlock (Janet's interesting comments)
    2. Jan Fortado via
    3. I had never heard that an illegitimate child could not marry someone who was born legitimately. Very interesting.That information prompted me to think that a hypothesis I have for a West Cork marriage might be correct. Wouldit be likely that a child born out of wedlock could marry a woman who was born legitimately but who herself hada child out of wedlock? My ggrandfather was born out of wedlock. We think he married a woman who was baptized in the RC church butwho had a child out of wedlock. (She, as a domestic servant, supposedly had a child out of wedlock with one ofthe sons of the family where she was a servant). I was thinking that if she had a child out of wedlock she was,as some of the Irish have told me, "considered to be damaged goods." There is always a stumbling block, of course. The child this woman had was named "Carroll." That name was neverused in the Kingston family. In fact, I have never seen this used as a first name in West Cork records. We think this was the George Kingston who was part of our family. If my ggrandfather's marriage to a woman who had a childout of wedlock makes sense, then it is one more reason to think my hypothesis is true as far as who GeorgeKingston was. Thank you for any thoughts/input.Jan

    08/22/2014 03:37:23
    1. Re: [COTIPPERARY] Out of wedlock (Janet's interesting comments)
    2. Janet Crawford via
    3. Jan, She would be at the least a "fallen woman" and you may, with checking, find she was also illegitimate. The only other circumstance I have run across was a man having children with a woman and they were not yet married. Even after they legally married it was said he had "married in the low life". I can't find her parents, so I believe she herself was illegitimate. Janet On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Jan Fortado via <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > I had never heard that an illegitimate child could not marry someone who > was born legitimately. Very interesting.That information prompted me to > think that a hypothesis I have for a West Cork marriage might be correct. > Wouldit be likely that a child born out of wedlock could marry a woman who > was born legitimately but who herself hada child out of wedlock? My > ggrandfather was born out of wedlock. We think he married a woman who was > baptized in the RC church butwho had a child out of wedlock. (She, as a > domestic servant, supposedly had a child out of wedlock with one ofthe sons > of the family where she was a servant). I was thinking that if she had a > child out of wedlock she was,as some of the Irish have told me, "considered > to be damaged goods." There is always a stumbling block, of course. The > child this woman had was named "Carroll." That name was neverused in the > Kingston family. In fact, I have never seen this used as a first name in > West Cork records. We think this was! > the George Kingston who was part of our family. If my ggrandfather's > marriage to a woman who had a childout of wedlock makes sense, then it is > one more reason to think my hypothesis is true as far as who GeorgeKingston > was. Thank you for any thoughts/input.Jan > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/22/2014 09:07:03