With apologize to Dick Holler <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Holler> and Dion. I am a decedent of and therefor interested in Thomas Talbot Howard and Esther Goulding of the Brunswick and Richard Talbot settler 1818. I suffer from an addition. Therefore, I reserve the right to be wrong. I am addicted to genealogy. I believe there is a John Howard yet to be located. I had Thomas Talbot Howard and Esther Goulding marriage information sourced as 28 Jan 1809 in Templeharry. Within the exchange of correspondence, there was a casual comment there may have been a boy child named John while in residence at Moneygalle but that child had died. Family lore which seems supported by the Richard Talbot settler records, have Thomas/Esther/James arriving and taking up Colonel Talbot land grants. The passenger list(s) of Irish origin, and there seems to be two an original and a rewrite, does not show a child, other than James, among the Howard party. Bruce Elliott's "Irish Migrants in the Canadas" have a passenger list showing Thomas, Esther, James (aged 3) and John (aged 1). I see Thomas and, some years later, James being favoured with a /Colonel/ Talbot parcel of land but no mention of John. Is John (aged 1) really a child of Thomas/Esther? There has been no mention in the post 1818 family lore of John. Is John a child of convenience for a passenger list and really another couple's child for passenger list reasons? Is John a casualty of the voyage? Has anyone seen John? Can you tell me where he has gone? -- Blair Howard