I have baptismal records on my g/grandfather and 4 of his brothers. They all emigrated from Pallasgreen from the mid 1840s - 1850. to Cleveland, Ohio. From census and death records all five added 3-9 years to their ages after settling in Cleveland. Has anyone else experienced this situation, or can anyone speculate why they would add years? Thank you for any help. Jim O'Donnell

Hi Jim and everyone, I noted several ages on my my grandfather, Daniel Madden. For several years I could not find a baptism or birth registration on him but had them for all of his siblings, all from Moyne Parish, Co Tipperary. Found nothing in Dublin at the General Registration Office. Began to wonder if he was an illegitimate bastard, of so did that make me a "Grand Bastard"?! Finally, in Nenegh at the local registration office they found the original registration B 1 Aug 1875. In your case, if they left Ireland "from the mid 1840s-'50s, I wonder if the US Civil War fought from 1861 to 1865, might be an answer? I found this intresting comment on ages which could be good, or bad - depending on your point of view. http://civilwartalk.com/threads/civil-war-enlistment-age-limit.67544 But what ages did the indicate and when? Ed Madden Ridgefield, WA On 1/29/2015 9:56 AM, James O'Donnell via wrote: > I have baptismal records on my g/grandfather and 4 of his brothers. They > all emigrated from Pallasgreen from the mid 1840s - 1850. to Cleveland, > Ohio. From census and death records all five added 3-9 years to their > ages after settling in Cleveland. Has anyone else experienced this > situation, or can anyone speculate why they would add years? > > Thank you for any help. > > Jim O'Donnell

My issue is just the opposite, and a few years later. I believe I have found my grandfather, Jeremiah Carey's baptism record in 1860 in Roscrea, County Tipperary in 1860. In 1863 he emigrated to the US with his grandparents, Martin and Eliza McDoole Tracey, and his brothers , Michael and Martin Carey. His parents had emigrated a year earlier. They all settled in eastern Niagara County NY. however, when he moved to Pueblo CO his birth date changed to 1865, 5 years younger (and his place of birth to NY). Any explanation or information on these families would be greatly appreciated. John CareyHelotes TX > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:44:37 -0800 > Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Change in ages > > Hi Jim and everyone, > > I noted several ages on my my grandfather, Daniel Madden. > For several years I could not find a baptism or birth registration on > him but had them for all of his siblings, all from Moyne Parish, Co > Tipperary. > Found nothing in Dublin at the General Registration Office. > Began to wonder if he was an illegitimate bastard, of so did that make > me a "Grand Bastard"?! > > Finally, in Nenegh at the local registration office they found the > original registration B 1 Aug 1875. > > In your case, if they left Ireland "from the mid 1840s-'50s, I wonder if > the US Civil War fought from 1861 to 1865, might be an answer? > I found this intresting comment on ages which could be good, or bad - > depending on your point of view. > http://civilwartalk.com/threads/civil-war-enlistment-age-limit.67544 > > But what ages did the indicate and when? > > Ed Madden > Ridgefield, WA > > On 1/29/2015 9:56 AM, James O'Donnell via wrote: > > I have baptismal records on my g/grandfather and 4 of his brothers. They > > all emigrated from Pallasgreen from the mid 1840s - 1850. to Cleveland, > > Ohio. From census and death records all five added 3-9 years to their > > ages after settling in Cleveland. Has anyone else experienced this > > situation, or can anyone speculate why they would add years? > > > > Thank you for any help. > > > > Jim O'Donnell > > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If the info is from census records, it could explain some of the discrepancies. If they census taker asked 'where did you live before or last year' instead of 'where were you born' it could explain the NY answer. I think there are many possibilities on the issues that are being discussed. Carmen D. Pittsburgh Researching Reardon?Riordan and Hanley with Tipperary Roots ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Carey via" <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> To: "Rootsweb COPUEBLO" <copueblo@rootsweb.com>; "Rootsweb COTIPPERARY" <cotipperary@rootsweb.com>; <conyniagar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Change in ages > My issue is just the opposite, and a few years later. I believe I have > found my grandfather, Jeremiah Carey's baptism record in 1860 in Roscrea, > County Tipperary in 1860. In 1863 he emigrated to the US with his > grandparents, Martin and Eliza McDoole Tracey, and his brothers , Michael > and Martin Carey. His parents had emigrated a year earlier. They all > settled in eastern Niagara County NY. however, when he moved to Pueblo CO > his birth date changed to 1865, 5 years younger (and his place of birth to > NY). Any explanation or information on these families would be greatly > appreciated. > John CareyHelotes TX > >> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:44:37 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Change in ages > >> >> Hi Jim and everyone, >> >> I noted several ages on my my grandfather, Daniel Madden. >> For several years I could not find a baptism or birth registration on >> him but had them for all of his siblings, all from Moyne Parish, Co >> Tipperary. >> Found nothing in Dublin at the General Registration Office. >> Began to wonder if he was an illegitimate bastard, of so did that make >> me a "Grand Bastard"?! >> >> Finally, in Nenegh at the local registration office they found the >> original registration B 1 Aug 1875. >> >> In your case, if they left Ireland "from the mid 1840s-'50s, I wonder if >> the US Civil War fought from 1861 to 1865, might be an answer? >> I found this intresting comment on ages which could be good, or bad - >> depending on your point of view. >> http://civilwartalk.com/threads/civil-war-enlistment-age-limit.67544 >> >> But what ages did the indicate and when? >> >> Ed Madden >> Ridgefield, WA >> >> On 1/29/2015 9:56 AM, James O'Donnell via wrote: >> > I have baptismal records on my g/grandfather and 4 of his brothers. >> > They >> > all emigrated from Pallasgreen from the mid 1840s - 1850. to Cleveland, >> > Ohio. From census and death records all five added 3-9 years to their >> > ages after settling in Cleveland. Has anyone else experienced this >> > situation, or can anyone speculate why they would add years? >> > >> > Thank you for any help. >> > >> > Jim O'Donnell >> >> >> >> >> When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: >> 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. >> 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned >> with. >> Thank You. >> >> All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned > with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, I have similar situations in my research. In my experience they were also men. Could be they wanted to give the impression of experience and maturity. In one of my cases they took off years and I believe it was to have a prospective bride believe that he was not an 'old man' so to speak. BTW, that age discrepancy first showed up on the marriage license. Carmen D. Pittsburgh ----- Original Message ----- From: "James O'Donnell via" <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> To: <COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:56 PM Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Change in ages >I have baptismal records on my g/grandfather and 4 of his brothers. They > all emigrated from Pallasgreen from the mid 1840s - 1850. to Cleveland, > Ohio. From census and death records all five added 3-9 years to their > ages after settling in Cleveland. Has anyone else experienced this > situation, or can anyone speculate why they would add years? > > Thank you for any help. > > Jim O'Donnell > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned > with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message