A stillborn child is a corpse. A corpse is never baptised. A record of stillbirths is relatively recent in Ireland. The reason for the long gap between births in a family can have many explanations. Separation for whatever reason. Husband working away from home. Illness. Many miscarriages, correctly called spontaneous abortion. Does anyone know where stillborn children were buried in the past. At one time, unbaptised persons were not permitted to be buried in the consecrated ground of a Catholic grave yard. Also, victims of suicide were not allowed to be buried in those same cemeteries. Does anyone have information on the two above. I only know of these facts from oral history. Not sure if we are allowed to share stories of customs on this site. Betty

Betty and all, No problem sharing stories of customs, *as long as* it doesn't sink into a moral or political debate. Thanks Aggi-Rose List admin >Not sure if we are allowed to share stories of customs on this site. >Betty > > > > > > >When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: >1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. >2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. >Thank You. > >All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives >at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Betty, I am aware of stories that affirm that unbaptized children were buried late at night under the wall surrounding the graveyard to be as close to sacred ground as possible. There were, however, also graveyards for children, and from this I assume unbaptized children, otherwise there would be no need to bury them in a separate place. Whether that was consecrated gound, I don't know off-hand. Janet On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Betty Gough via <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> wrote: > A stillborn child is a corpse. A corpse is never baptised. > A record of stillbirths is relatively recent in Ireland. > > The reason for the long gap between births in a family can have many > explanations. Separation for whatever reason. Husband working away > from home. Illness. Many miscarriages, correctly called spontaneous > abortion. > > Does anyone know where stillborn children were buried in the past. At > one time, unbaptised persons were not permitted to be buried in the > consecrated ground of a Catholic grave yard. > Also, victims of suicide were not allowed to be buried in those same > cemeteries. > Does anyone have information on the two above. I only know of these > facts from oral history. > > Not sure if we are allowed to share stories of customs on this site. > Betty > > > > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >