cotipperary@rootsweb.com wrote: < For those of you who may not know, the church records that are kept in the National Library are direct copies of the original manuscripts. That is, they are mostly written in Latin. I found the handwriting very difficult to read. I did my Cashel & Emly research, many years before the A.B. came to the position he still holds. (He came from the Kerry diocese). Because these records were photographed for microfilm many years ago, before we had the technology we have today, they are rather fuzzy. What I am saying is, it is a long and tedious task to try and read through them. Each cert. is reproduced in full. Some have comments like pauper, refering to the parents of the child. Some have illegitimate, refering to the child. Personally, I am of the opinion that the church is reluctant to let us see what some priests wrote on those certs at that time. Some of the remarks would be so un-PC today. Unless you have endless time to spend in the National Library in Dublin, I would suggest that you apply to the Excel centre in Tipperary town for the Cashel & Emly records. For North Tipperary to the Genealogical Centre in the Heritage Centre in Nenagh, Co. Tipperary. Part of Cashel & Emly is in North Tipperary. I am not trying to influence anyone, all I am saying is that if time is scarce, you would be better off paying the fees and getting the work done for you. I don't know what the delay factor is in the centres. Do your homework well in advance of coming here on holiday. There is a huge demand for this material, and there can be long delay factors. Happy searching, wishing you all good results. When you do find the area you are looking for, locate the local historians. Don't settle for one person, that way you will get a wider picture. And, lastly, do have a good time when you come to Ireland. Bee. < < < Today's Topics: < < 1. Re: Cashel & Emly Records (DP & EM O Connell) < 2. Vatican Letter Directs Bishops to Keep Parish Records from < Mormons (DP & EM O Connell) < < < ---------------------------------------------------------------------- < < Message: 1 < Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:54:36 +1200 < From: "DP & EM O Connell" <oconnell@farmside.co.nz> < Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Cashel & Emly Records < To: <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> < Message-ID: <015501c8d003$fa874ef0$0b05a8c0@ld1fe640bab9d4> < Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; < reply-type=original < < Too true .. but moving on ... this is tremendous news for those with < access to Dublin but for the rest of us .. where to from here? Huge thanks < to Janet for her great generosity and time involved with listing all her < Lattin/Cullen research - I'm sure there are many gold mines in those records < for some. < < Do we know whether the LDS will release the C&E / Cloyne / Kerry records on < their familysearch website? I understand they have the films already so < perhaps this is not a big jump, or do they all have to still be entered into < their computer database for on-line access? Does anyone know a time frame? < < I'm particularly interested in the Kilcommon parish in Cashel & Emly and < also I have two branches from Co Kerry so, potentially, a couple of brick < walls have come down .. just hope I can jump through them from here! < < Thanks again to Janet for all your great contributions to this list. < < Elizabeth O'Connell < New Zealand < < < ----- Original Message ----- < From: "Joker" <JoCath@upnaway.com> < To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com>; <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com>; < <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> < Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:58 PM < Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Cashel & Emly Records < < < >I think we are all becoming a bit previous with this so called "win". < > < > The "Archhbishop is Defeated" sounds like some medieval primal scream < < < < ------------------------------ < < Message: 2 < Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:03:15 +1200 < From: "DP & EM O Connell" <oconnell@farmside.co.nz> < Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Vatican Letter Directs Bishops to Keep Parish < Records from Mormons < To: <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> < Message-ID: <047401c8d00d$98906010$0b05a8c0@ld1fe640bab9d4> < Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; < reply-type=original < < Not wanting to continue the recent discussion but this does look to be of < some concern if the RC church could take this further and embargo all films < ... ???? < < http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802443.htm < < < < ------------------------------ < < To contact the COTIPPERARY list administrator, send an email to < COTIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com. < < To post a message to the COTIPPERARY mailing list, send an email to COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com. < < __________________________________________________________ < To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com < with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the < email with no additional text. < < < End of COTIPPERARY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 174 < ******************************************* < ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts