I think we are all becoming a bit previous with this so called "win". The "Archhbishop is Defeated" sounds like some medieval primal scream from the bowels of a pagan thrust against christianity. Me Religious?? not really but to pass judgement on someone as being "bad" because they don't agree with you is a bit precious. The main gist of the agruments over time seems to be that the Archbishop lowered himself to charging for access to the records. There were lots of arguments like "they belong to our ancestors" etc and they should be free but really they were created, kept, maintained and OWNED by the relevant churches. Else they would not exist. They didn't get destroyed in the fires of 1758 and 1922 under government protection but it was events like these that made them so "valuable". Now - Money. If you haven't paid for an Ancestry subscription, purchased a application to maintain your genealogy tree, paid an ISP for access to this forum, donated to a church for records received then you are not in a position to criticise the Archbishop. He just fitted in with all the rest if it can justifiably said that was his only motive. Be reminded - Genealogy is a big business worldwide and one way or the other we all pay for our trees. However, it's forums like this that we try and help each other and minimize that cost otherwise we would all have pro genealogists working for us. Stay relevant. So...My view...... "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" Bill Kelson Perth AUS

I must hasten to defend my reputation against Joker's allegation that I have judged the Archbishop to be "bad". I have never claimed he is a bad person, merely that he has been authoritarian, obstinate and complacent. Richard Callanan, London.

Too true .. but moving on ... this is tremendous news for those with access to Dublin but for the rest of us .. where to from here? Huge thanks to Janet for her great generosity and time involved with listing all her Lattin/Cullen research - I'm sure there are many gold mines in those records for some. Do we know whether the LDS will release the C&E / Cloyne / Kerry records on their familysearch website? I understand they have the films already so perhaps this is not a big jump, or do they all have to still be entered into their computer database for on-line access? Does anyone know a time frame? I'm particularly interested in the Kilcommon parish in Cashel & Emly and also I have two branches from Co Kerry so, potentially, a couple of brick walls have come down .. just hope I can jump through them from here! Thanks again to Janet for all your great contributions to this list. Elizabeth O'Connell New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joker" <JoCath@upnaway.com> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com>; <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com>; <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Cashel & Emly Records >I think we are all becoming a bit previous with this so called "win". > > The "Archhbishop is Defeated" sounds like some medieval primal scream

Not wanting to continue the recent discussion but this does look to be of some concern if the RC church could take this further and embargo all films ... ???? http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802443.htm