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    1. [COTIPPERARY] Questions re: Mullinahone cattle dealers
    2. Kathy
    3. Good morning. I just joined this list as I need to get a better picture in my mind re cattle in Mullinahone. This is what I know: my Edmond Mullally who resided in Mullinahone at the time of his 1867 marriage (descended from Ensign James Mullally) claimed that he and his father, Patrick, were "dealers". When Edmond's daughter was born in 1881 in Mullinahone he claimed to be a "cattle dealer". I don't know if these Mullally's where sitting in an office in Mullinahone and just doing paper work or were they hopping on horses and riding to where the cattle were grazing. And, would the cattle be grazing in Mullinahone? Did these Mullally's own the cattle or were they just the middleman who bought and sold cattle for others? What did a cattle dealer actually do? Of course, I need dates of births, deaths, etc. and that is always great to find. However, I am truly interested in how my ancestors lived day-by-day. If anyone has a general idea of what was going on in Mullinahone and the surrounding area - or can suggested a website - from 1840's to 1880's - that would be great. I believe that Edmond's in-law's, the Hacketts, were from Mullinahone as quite a few of them are buried there. I am not certain if my Mullally's were from Mullinahone or Edmond just moved there after his marriage to Maria. Thank you, Kat - NJ - USA

    02/18/2008 01:15:26
    1. Re: [COTIPPERARY] Questions re: Mullinahone cattle dealers
    2. Peter Langley
    3. Going back in my memory to the time of "The Emergency" or what the rest of the world called The Second World War, I can remember cattle dealers "doing the rounds". There was no office and certainly no paper work. They toured the countryside in a trap pulled by a pony. knew ever farmer and probably every cow in the Parish. They would both buy and sell cattle. I remember a certain Mick Connors in Co Waterford visiting my father about once a month. The visit could last hours. After the weather, the state of the nation, and farming in general had been discussed, they would get down to business. "I saw on the way in you have a big bullock about ready for the butcher, would you be interested in selling him?" (Mick would already have been asked by a butcher to look out for an animal) A deal might or might not be done, depending if my father thought the effort of driving the animal into the fair was worth the extra he might get for him there. Or Mick might mention he had some one and a half year olds at his home ready for fattening off. As Mick had a good reputation for not selling bad animals, a deal might be done there and then and the cattle delivered to my father in a few days. Dealers could also travel further afield by train. Going to cattle fairs in areas where it was known cattle were cheaper, these would be purchased and moved by train to a fair in an area where cattle were making good prices. With the coming of cattle marts and the establishment of meat factories with their own buyers, and butchers no longer slaughtering their own meat the job of the cattle dealer has disappeared from Irish life. Kat, the only other thing I can say is cattle dealers were characters. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" <sheehykathy@optonline.net> To: <COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:15 PM Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Questions re: Mullinahone cattle dealers > Good morning. > > I just joined this list as I need to get a better picture in my mind re > cattle in Mullinahone. > > This is what I know: my Edmond Mullally who resided in Mullinahone at the > time of his 1867 marriage (descended from Ensign James Mullally) claimed > that he and his father, Patrick, were "dealers". When Edmond's daughter > was born in 1881 in Mullinahone he claimed to be a "cattle dealer". > > I don't know if these Mullally's where sitting in an office in Mullinahone > and just doing paper work or were they hopping on horses and riding to > where the cattle were grazing. And, would the cattle be grazing in > Mullinahone? Did these Mullally's own the cattle or were they just the > middleman who bought and sold cattle for others? What did a cattle dealer > actually do? > > Of course, I need dates of births, deaths, etc. and that is always great > to find. However, I am truly interested in how my ancestors lived > day-by-day. > > If anyone has a general idea of what was going on in Mullinahone and the > surrounding area - or can suggested a website - from 1840's to 1880's - > that would be great. > > I believe that Edmond's in-law's, the Hacketts, were from Mullinahone as > quite a few of them are buried there. I am not certain if my Mullally's > were from Mullinahone or Edmond just moved there after his marriage to > Maria. > > Thank you, > > Kat - NJ - USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    02/18/2008 08:07:30
    1. Re: [COTIPPERARY] Questions re: Mullinahone cattle dealers
    2. Kathy
    3. Peter - Thank you so much for the peek into the past. I imagine things didn't change very much from the time of my ancestor to the time of your father. We actually have a few "characters" in my family - and now we know where it came from. Kat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Langley" <paircfada@eircom.net> To: <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Questions re: Mullinahone cattle dealers > Going back in my memory to the time of "The Emergency" or what the rest of > the world called The Second World War, I can remember cattle dealers > "doing > the rounds". > > There was no office and certainly no paper work. > They toured the countryside in a trap pulled by a pony. knew ever farmer > and > probably every cow in the Parish. > They would both buy and sell cattle. > I remember a certain Mick Connors in Co Waterford visiting my father about > once a month. > The visit could last hours. After the weather, the state of the nation, > and > farming in general had been discussed, they would get down to business. > "I saw on the way in you have a big bullock about ready for the butcher, > would you be interested in selling him?" > (Mick would already have been asked by a butcher to look out for an > animal) > A deal might or might not be done, depending if my father thought the > effort > of driving the animal into the fair was worth the extra he might get for > him > there. > > Or Mick might mention he had some one and a half year olds at his home > ready > for fattening off. > As Mick had a good reputation for not selling bad animals, a deal might be > done there and then and the cattle delivered to my father in a few days. > > Dealers could also travel further afield by train. Going to cattle fairs > in > areas where it was known cattle were cheaper, these would be purchased and > moved by train to a fair in an area where cattle were making good prices. > > With the coming of cattle marts and the establishment of meat factories > with > their own buyers, and butchers no longer slaughtering their own meat the > job > of the cattle dealer has disappeared from Irish life. > > Kat, the only other thing I can say is cattle dealers were characters. > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy" <sheehykathy@optonline.net> > To: <COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:15 PM > Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Questions re: Mullinahone cattle dealers > > >> Good morning. >> >> I just joined this list as I need to get a better picture in my mind re >> cattle in Mullinahone. >> >> This is what I know: my Edmond Mullally who resided in Mullinahone at the >> time of his 1867 marriage (descended from Ensign James Mullally) claimed >> that he and his father, Patrick, were "dealers". When Edmond's daughter >> was born in 1881 in Mullinahone he claimed to be a "cattle dealer". >> >> I don't know if these Mullally's where sitting in an office in >> Mullinahone >> and just doing paper work or were they hopping on horses and riding to >> where the cattle were grazing. And, would the cattle be grazing in >> Mullinahone? Did these Mullally's own the cattle or were they just the >> middleman who bought and sold cattle for others? What did a cattle >> dealer >> actually do? >> >> Of course, I need dates of births, deaths, etc. and that is always great >> to find. However, I am truly interested in how my ancestors lived >> day-by-day. >> >> If anyone has a general idea of what was going on in Mullinahone and the >> surrounding area - or can suggested a website - from 1840's to 1880's - >> that would be great. >> >> I believe that Edmond's in-law's, the Hacketts, were from Mullinahone as >> quite a few of them are buried there. I am not certain if my Mullally's >> were from Mullinahone or Edmond just moved there after his marriage to >> Maria. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Kat - NJ - USA >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/18/2008 07:35:14