Hello Listers, I wrote to the List some years ago about this family and since then I have found out more about them and that some other family members arrived in the Sydney Cove in the Colony of New South Wales, as what was know as Bounty Immigrants. I am hoping that SKSs can assist me with the story of the Scanlan's in Tipperary. (I will spell the name as Scanlan, however in the Colony of New South Wales Scanlon was also used). The story begins with Alice Scanlan (nee Kinmaley) the wife of William Scanlan (dec'd) and one of her daughters Margaret Scanlan, they had been arrested for stealing wearing apparel and both of them were sentenced to 7 years transportation to the Penal Colony of Port Jackson in the Criminal Court on March 31st 1829 in Tipperary. Mother and daughter, sailed on the convict ship "Asia" on 10th September1829 from Cork. The master of the "Asia" was Thomas Stead and the ship's Surgeon was Alexander Nesbet. The Asia arrived in the Colony on 13th January 1830 and the voyage took 125 days. On their Muster when mother and daughter arrived in Sydney Cove it is noted: - Alice Scanlan,- 40 years of age and she can do 'all work'. Sentence 7 years. Description: - a ruddy complexion, grey hair and hazel eyes and indented to Mr.H. Burrows. It was noted that Alice was the mother of 7 children. Margaret Scanlan - 25 years of age - 'a seamstress and laundress'. Sentence 7 years. Description: - a ruddy complexion, brown hair and hazel eyes and she was indented to Mrs. Orr of Parramatta. Two years later another daughter of Alice Scanlan (nee Kinmaley) is arrested. She was Mary Scanlan and was tried in Tipperary in 1831 and convicted of stealing clothes and geese. It is noted on her trial papers, she had two children (out of wedlock). Mary was sentenced to transportation for 7 years for her crime. Mary sailed on the "Southworth" on 6th February 1832 from Cork. The voyage took 129 day and arrived in Port Jackson on the 13th June 1832. The master on this voyage was John Coombes and the Surgeon was Jason Forrester. At the Muster on the arrival of the Southworth it was noted:- Mary Scanlan sentence seven years, age 25, from Tipperary...' Mary Scanlan sought permission to marry Robert Pearce, she was still classed as a bonded servant and she had been assigned to her future husband. Robert Pearce is the older brother of my husband's gg grandfather Richard. Alice, her daughters Margaret and Mary, married very soon after arriving in the Colony. Alice married a free settler by the name of Michael Sullivan, Margaret married an freed convict, Martin Crahan and Mary married Colinal born Robert Pearce a son of two convicts. All the ladies married in the year each of the them arrived. Another daughter of Alice Sutherland (Scanlan nee Kinmaley) arrived in the Colony in 1841. Joanna Scanlan arrived free she was 20 years of age (born circa 1821). Bounty Immigrant - Arrived in Colony 1841 Ship "Alfred". Where from:- Tipperary, Ireland. Rel:-R.C. Occupation:- Kitchenmaid. Daughter of Alice (mother residing in N.S.W. father William dead). In the same year a married son of Alice Sutherland (Scanlan nee Kinmaley) arrived with his family also as a Bounty Immigrant. John Scanlan, 27. Bounty Immigrant - Arrived in Colony 1841 Ship Canton. Where from:- CAHER - Tipperary Ireland. R.C. Labourer. Son of William Scanlon dead and Alice Kinmaley. Johannah Scanlon 30. Arrived in Colony 1841 Ship "Canton". Where from: CAHER - Tipperary, Ireland. Rel:R.C. Occup:- Housekeeper. Daughter of William Clancy dead and Mary Cochrane. Wife of John. Children Elizabeth 14, Alice 4 and Johannah 2, daughters of John and Johanna. However, the age of teh daughter Elizabeth 14 is a bit of a worry, as her parents would have been 13 and 16. If it is not a transcription error, Elizabeth maybe on of the two children Mary Pearce (nee Scanlan) who arrived as a convict on the "Southworth", left behind in Tipperary. What the family here Down Under would like to find out, it is the story of the Scanlans.Scanlons in Tipperary. So the information we have is:- Alice Kinmaley was born circa 1790 in Tipperary Alice Kinmaley married William Scanlan (circa ??) in Tipperary. We know that William and Alice Scanlan (nee Kinmaley) had 7 children. At the time that John and Johanna Scanlan, the children of William and Alice Scanlan (nee Kinmaley) sailed Down Under their father William was desceased. The SCANLAN Children we know of, who sailed to the Colony of Port Jackson (Australia) are:- Margaret Scanlan born circa 1803 (from Tipperary - convict) Mary Scanlan born circa 1807 (from Tipperary - convict) John Scanlan born circa 1814 (from Caher - Tipperary - Free) Johanna Scanlan born circa 1821 (from Tipperary - Free) So what I am hoping Listers can assist me with, is who are the Scanlans, also who are the Kinmaleys? What is their history? When and where did William Scanlan marry Alice Kinmaley? Did the Scanlan family all come from CAHER in Tipperary? Alice Scanlan (nee Kinmaley) is noted to have had 7 children on her Indent, what happened to the three children who did not sail to the Colony to join their mother and what were their names? Any suggestions would be very much appreicated. Regards, Janice Belrose - Sydney Australia

Janice, I strongly suspect that Alice Scanlan's maiden name was not Kilmalley, but instead Kenneally. Try checking the Tithes and Griffiths for places where Scanlan and Kenneally are found near each other. Kenneally started as a Co. Limerick surname but spread all over Munster in later times. You are going to have to search on a lot of possible variations of the spelling of Kenneally. Janet On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Janice Doughty <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I wrote to the List some years ago about this family and since then I have > found out more about them and that some other family members arrived in the > Sydney Cove in the Colony of New South Wales, as what was know as Bounty > Immigrants. > > I am hoping that SKSs can assist me with the story of the Scanlan's in > Tipperary. (I will spell the name as Scanlan, however in the Colony of New > South Wales Scanlon was also used). > > The story begins with Alice Scanlan (nee Kinmaley)

Janice, Here's a wild guess in another direction. There is one place to look, but it would mean that possibly the person taking down here details did a sloppy job of mixing up her name and place of residence. It could be she is from Kilmalogue. There are 3 of those all in the PLU of Clogheen. One is in the civil parish of Ardfinnan PLU, one in Derrygrath, and one in Rochestown PLU. In Clogheen PLU is also Caherabbey Lower and Upper, which could have easily been shortened to Caher, and it is in the civil parish of Caher. Clogheen PLU is in the barony of Iffa & Offa. Perhaps Pete will write directly to you and tell you how far apart these places are from each other. When you say the Criminal Court of Tipperary, do you mean Tipperary Town? or County Tipperary? Clogheen would possibly be closer to Clonmel's court than Tipp Town's, but I guess it would depend on where she was arrested. I would still hold to my guess on the surname as Kenneally, however. Janet On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Janice Doughty <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I wrote to the List some years ago about this family and since then I have > found out more about them and that some other family members arrived in the > Sydney Cove in the Colony of New South Wales, as what was know as Bounty > Immigrants. > > I am hoping that SKSs can assist me with the story of the Scanlan's in > Tipperary. (I will spell the name as Scanlan, however in the Colony of New > South Wales Scanlon was also used). > > The story begins with Alice Scanlan (nee Kinmaley)