Hi to all on the list   My major brickwall is finding the area and names of the parents of the 3 Ryan brothers ;   1.      John (b around 1832-1836), d 1890 Nelson, New Zealand 2.      Henry b around 1842, d 1897 Tipperary township 3.       unknown   The 3 left Tipperary for America sometime in the 1860’s.  So far I have not been able to find a definite date, ship or name of the other brother.   John Ryan arrived in West Coast goldfield of New Zealand around 1865 and was a storekeeper in business with a Thomas Tierney till 1867. In 1872 he married Christina Keane b 1842 County Wicklow and they had 3 sons. The sons all remained in NZ. Only 1 had descendants- my gr father. Any of John’s civil records just show Tipperary.  I have not been able to locate a ship or date when either John or Christina left Ireland.   Henry Ryan his occupation was a baker. He is recorded in the 1870 Census in Ward 8, Cooks County, Chicago Il. Also with his wife Margaret (nee Scully) b around 1848 in Cashel?. The census indicates that both Henry & Margaret were born in Ireland. Again I have not been able to locate a marriage or when they went to the states or the date and ship that they returned to Ireland with 2 young children. 1.      Ellen ( Nellie) b1870 2.      John Patrick b 1872   The family were in Tipperary township when the next child was born in 1874. The children birth records show address of Nelson St till around 1880 and then St Michaels St, Tipperary township.   3.      Matthew b 1874 Baptism sponsors Patrick Ryan & Kate Scully 4.       Thomas b 1876 Sponsors Michael Bennett & Anne O’Donnell d 1880 TIP. Township 5.       Mary  ( Molly) b 1878 sponsors William & Margaret Heffernan 6.       Henry Joseph b 1878 sponsors James & Catherine Wyse 7.       Catherine ( Kitty) b 1879 sponsors John Bradshaw & Mary Ryan 8.       Dennis b 1880 sponsors Patrick O’Doherty & Ellen Ryan 9.       Margaret (Madge) b 1882 sponsors Thomas & Margaret Heaphy 10.   Thomas b 1885 sponsors Matt Ryan & Ellen Fitzgerald 11.   Johanna (Josephine) b 1886 sponsors Michael Bennett & Bridget Heaphy 12.   Bridget ( Bridie) b 1887 sponsors Michael O’Donnell & Bridget Ryan   For Henry and Margaret children I have;   1  Nellie m 1896 (location unknown) John B Condon b Emly TIP 1867 His parents  William Condon and Catherine ( Nee Ryan). According to the1911 census they had 5 children Margaret b 1897,  Michael b 1889,  Henry b 1900, Catherine b 1902 John b 1910. Nellie was still in Tipperary township 1919. But that is the only piece of info that I have on Nellie, John or children after the 1911 census. Did they stay in Tipperary or leave? I would really like to find out what happened to this family.     2  John Patrick appears in the English 1911 census in Salford on the railways. He had a daughter Molly. Little else is know of him.   3  Matthew went to Brisbane, Aust 1897 and died in Brisbane 1918.   5  Molly went to New Zealand 1900 m John  Hopper. She died 1938. No children.   6  Henry went to Brisbane 1900 then 1907 to Papua New Guinea and was a Resident Magistrate till 1915. He was killed in WW1 in France 1918. Never married and no children.   7  Kitty went to New Zealand with Molly m William Clare and she died 1960 in Gisborne New Zealand. They have descendants.   8  Dennis went to NY USA in 1909 m Hannah McCormack and he died 1936. They have descendants.   9  Madge was in New Zealand in 1921 but no other info is known about her.   10  Thomas went to Brisbane in 1913 then after serving 1914-1919 during the war he went to New Zealand and died 1944. He never married nor had children.   11  Josephine went to Brisbane in 1913 m Patrick James Kennedy in 1914 then went to New Zealand. She died 1958 and they had children.   12  Bridie apart from her birth date and baptism I have not found anything about her. I would also like to know whatever happened to Bridget ( Bridie).     Any help or assistance on any of these lines would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in anticipation   :)   Kevin