I am going to put on the Freemen of Co. Tipperary as of 1840. Freemen were allowed to vote in elections and in order to be a Freeman one had to have a tie to land, i.e. ownership, or a lease for lives; a month to month tenancy would not do; if you didn't have a land connection, you will not be on this list. There are a lot of these and the listing very convenient as they fall between the Tithes and Griffiths. I AM GOING TO NEED YOUR HELP with the surnames and maybe the townlands in some cases. Any surname you recognize as being connected to the area in the message will help as the writing is very difficult to read and I am sure to get a lot of the spelling wrong. For right now consider what I am putting out as a rough draft. I'll start with Lower Ormond and the initial area seems to be Nenagh, Ballingarry and Loughkeen and places nearby. If you have a connection to any of these men, now would be a great time to talk about them. Janet

Some things were meant to be, Peter. I cannot say I knew Reagan or Taylor or Jackie Kennedy; I can tell all that I know you! Janet On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Peter Langley <paircfada@eircom.net> wrote: > A great pity. > In a drunken state one night many years ago, I found the visitor's book > and signed it. > Someone transcribed the names and put them on a board in the bar, which is > why, amongst the other famous names there, can be seen Peter Langley!! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Crawford via > Sent: 30 May 2015 17:01 > To: cotipperary@rootsweb.com > Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Off-Topic - a place our ancestors would have > knownalmost 300 years ago > > In the heart of Cashel, Co. Tipperary and temporarily [we hope] closed: > > "The Cashel Palace Hotel, which in its time has been visited by Ronald > Reagan, Jackie Kennedy and Liz Taylor, has been placed on the market for a > guide price of €2.25 million. > The architectural masterpiece was first built for an archbishop in 1730 > and started trading as a hotel in the 1960s. " > > See picture > > > http://www.hospitalityireland.com/historic-tipperary-hotel-on-the-market/16472 > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

A great pity. In a drunken state one night many years ago, I found the visitor's book and signed it. Someone transcribed the names and put them on a board in the bar, which is why, amongst the other famous names there, can be seen Peter Langley!! -----Original Message----- From: cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Crawford via Sent: 30 May 2015 17:01 To: cotipperary@rootsweb.com Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Off-Topic - a place our ancestors would have knownalmost 300 years ago In the heart of Cashel, Co. Tipperary and temporarily [we hope] closed: "The Cashel Palace Hotel, which in its time has been visited by Ronald Reagan, Jackie Kennedy and Liz Taylor, has been placed on the market for a guide price of €2.25 million. The architectural masterpiece was first built for an archbishop in 1730 and started trading as a hotel in the 1960s. " See picture http://www.hospitalityireland.com/historic-tipperary-hotel-on-the-market/16472 When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. Thank You. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the heart of Cashel, Co. Tipperary and temporarily [we hope] closed: "The Cashel Palace Hotel, which in its time has been visited by Ronald Reagan, Jackie Kennedy and Liz Taylor, has been placed on the market for a guide price of €2.25 million. The architectural masterpiece was first built for an archbishop in 1730 and started trading as a hotel in the 1960s. " See picture http://www.hospitalityireland.com/historic-tipperary-hotel-on-the-market/16472

Thanks for the giggle Peter. Great story!! Cath -----Original Message----- From: cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Langley via Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 1:44 PM To: 'Janet Crawford'; cotipperary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Off-Topic - a place our ancestors would have knownalmost 300 years ago A great pity. In a drunken state one night many years ago, I found the visitor's book and signed it. Someone transcribed the names and put them on a board in the bar, which is why, amongst the other famous names there, can be seen Peter Langley!!

Yes they have, hope they are enjoying their final days of gouging researchers, July and the NLI release of records is fast approaching... Ellen From: Janet Crawford via <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> To: cotipperary@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:21 AM Subject: [COTIPPERARY] IFHF I note that IFHF has gone over to a pay-for-subscription site. No more free searches of their Index. Janet When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: 1.  Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. 2.  Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. Thank You. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I note that IFHF has gone over to a pay-for-subscription site. No more free searches of their Index. Janet

There are two websites that will have information of the events planned for next year: http://ireland.ie/ http://sluggerotoole.com/2015/05/20/government-of-irelands-plans-for-2016-commemorations/ The first one is the official government website and there you can sign up to get a newsletter and program changes. Those newsletters could end up being "keepers". Janet

Lethbridge Herald (Alberta, Canada) 4 December 1950 South Pioneer Called by Death Funeral services were held inSt John's anglican Church at Pincher Creed for a resident, Philip Lucas, who died at his residence here. Born at Rockvale, Newport, County of Tipperary, Ireland, 82 years ago, he moved to Macleod in 1893, and worked on a number of large Southern Alberta ranches. During 1907 he married Miss Mary Upton of Yarrow. The couple retired from their district farm in 1927 and settled in Pincher Creek. Surviving are Mrs Lucas; a daughter, Mis Phyllis Lucas of Pincher Creek; a daughter-in-law, Mrs G Lucas of Pincher Creek; a sister in England and one graondson.

http://catalogue.jerseyheritage.org/collection/Search/archive/tipperary/ Testament of Charles Frederick Sweeny of Clonmell, co. Tipperary, now of Les Fonds, Grouville. Dated 16/08/1841. Reference: D/Y/A/27/90 Date: July 31st 1850 Will and Testament of James Ryan Smyth of co. Tipperary, Ireland, now of Jersey. Dated 30/08/1855. Reference: D/Y/A/28/155 Date: December 26th 1855 Testament of Charles Atkinson of Tipperary, Ireland, now of St Saviour. Dated 04/07/1860. Reference: D/Y/A/30/61 Date: July 31st 1860 Copy from the District Probate Registry, Birmingham of the Will and Testament of Mary Alice Grey, wife of David Edmond O'Brien, of Salisbury, Clonmel, County Tipperary, Republic of Ireland. Dated 01/05/1961. [Includes three closed documents] Reference: D/Y/B1/246/14 Date: September 10th 1976

Nebraskahistory.org Fennessy of the County Tipperary: Chronicle of an Irish Family, [compiled by] Richard J. Fennessy. (Irish-American family in Polk, Harlan, and Douglas counties.)

Hi Della I haven't tried searching Ireland for law records but have thoroughly searched Trove. John Flanagan worked for Samuel Munchley South prior to being admitted to the Supreme Court of Victoria but no idea who he worked for being admitted. I did find he had something to do with Caroline Chisholm at one stage. Shirlee Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Palmer" <agricon@activ8.net.au> To: "'Shirlee Cantwell'" <tcantwell@xtra.co.nz>; <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 2:43 PM Subject: RE: [COTIPPERARY] John FLANAGAN (O'Flanagan) & Catherine RYAN > Shirlee, > Have you tried Trinity for records or listing from the bar or Queen's > counsel? > Also try trove- the newspapers in Aus. For an obit of a solicitor for the > Kyneton papers? > What about the actual solicitors office, If it was Palmers, the current > owners still have a history section at the office. > > Della Palmer > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shirlee Cantwell > via > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:51 AM > To: COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [COTIPPERARY] John FLANAGAN (O'Flanagan) & Catherine RYAN > > I am hoping that someone on this list can help me find more information on > the above. John FLANAGAN obtained a Law degree from Trinity and was > admitted to the Queen's Bench in Dublin as a Solicitor in January 1852. In > 1855 he decided to immigrate to Australia, arriving in December 1855 on > the > RED JACKET accompanied by a Mary RYAN 25 yrs (sister in law perhaps). He > was admitted to the Supreme Court of Victoria in 1856 and he practised Law > around the Kyneton area up to about 1870 as far as I was able to research. > His wife Catherine FLANAGAN (O'Flanagan) immigrated to Australia arriving > in > January 1857 accompanied by daughters Mary (18 yrs), Honora (23 yrs) and > Ellen (infant) on the AFRICA. Catherine died in 1868 in Daylesford, > Victoria, but have not been able to find a death for John FLANAGAN as I > have > BEEN unable to ascertain who his parents were. Catherine's parents were > recorded on her death registration as John RYAN, storekeeper, and Mary. > His > daughter Mary married a J! > ohn BROPHY and then a William de Renzi McCAUSLAND whereas Ellen FLANAGAN > became the partner of Thomas Banks SKIDMORE in the 1890's in Sydney, NSW, > Australia. I have no idea what became of Honora FLANAGAN or Mary RYAN. > > Shirlee > Wellington, NZ > > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned > with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Also Was Johns wife listed as a widow when she died and where is she buried? Most cemetery trusts will tell you who is buried in the same plot. try the site called Australian cemeteries And Victorian death certificates can contain a huge amount of information, just depends on who filled it out. You may be able to put his wife name in to the john Flanagan search in the BMD data base and narrow it down that way, without buying anything. Della Palmer

Shirlee, Have you tried Trinity for records or listing from the bar or Queen's counsel? Also try trove- the newspapers in Aus. For an obit of a solicitor for the Kyneton papers? What about the actual solicitors office, If it was Palmers, the current owners still have a history section at the office. Della Palmer -----Original Message----- From: cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shirlee Cantwell via Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:51 AM To: COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com Subject: [COTIPPERARY] John FLANAGAN (O'Flanagan) & Catherine RYAN I am hoping that someone on this list can help me find more information on the above. John FLANAGAN obtained a Law degree from Trinity and was admitted to the Queen's Bench in Dublin as a Solicitor in January 1852. In 1855 he decided to immigrate to Australia, arriving in December 1855 on the RED JACKET accompanied by a Mary RYAN 25 yrs (sister in law perhaps). He was admitted to the Supreme Court of Victoria in 1856 and he practised Law around the Kyneton area up to about 1870 as far as I was able to research. His wife Catherine FLANAGAN (O'Flanagan) immigrated to Australia arriving in January 1857 accompanied by daughters Mary (18 yrs), Honora (23 yrs) and Ellen (infant) on the AFRICA. Catherine died in 1868 in Daylesford, Victoria, but have not been able to find a death for John FLANAGAN as I have BEEN unable to ascertain who his parents were. Catherine's parents were recorded on her death registration as John RYAN, storekeeper, and Mary. His daughter Mary married a J! ohn BROPHY and then a William de Renzi McCAUSLAND whereas Ellen FLANAGAN became the partner of Thomas Banks SKIDMORE in the 1890's in Sydney, NSW, Australia. I have no idea what became of Honora FLANAGAN or Mary RYAN. Shirlee Wellington, NZ When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. Thank You. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, Would you do a search and any place you find my name with an email would you please be sure it is reojan@gmail.com [NOT reojan@eircom.net]. Thanks Janet On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Pat Connors via <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have just updated the County Tipperary Registries on my website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/tipp/ > > Please check your entry and/or change of data for accuracy. If you find a > mistake or want to add your names, please follow the instructions on the > registry pages. All new entries and/or changes should be mailed to my > other email address: nymets11@pacbell.net > > Thanks. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > nymets22@gmail.com > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have just updated the County Tipperary Registries on my website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/tipp/ Please check your entry and/or change of data for accuracy. If you find a mistake or want to add your names, please follow the instructions on the registry pages. All new entries and/or changes should be mailed to my other email address: nymets11@pacbell.net Thanks. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com nymets22@gmail.com

This may be totally irrelevant but there is a marriage for Abina Josephine Cahill in Manhattan in 1890 showing on Italiangen. A very long shot but may be worth following up. Clare On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Jim & Patty via <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi! Hoping someone can help with this! > I have been trying to get more information on my great grandmother who was > from > Tipperary. Her name was Margaret CAHILL and thought she was born in 1869 > but her > death certificate states 1872 but that could be incorrect. She came over > to US > in 1887 and married John MAGUIRE in 1894. They settled in Troy, NY and I > have > found a few possible immigration records but can't tell for sure if that > would > be her or not. She died in 1931 in Troy, NY and her obituary states she > came > from Tipperary when she was 17. One passenger list for the Arizona which > landed > on June 20 1887 in NY looks like it might fit. Can't read the age but it > has two > sisters with her Anna and I think Abina CAHILL. The City of Troy has no > records > for their marriage there and I have checked the NYC marriages list and > can't > find anything there. Anyone with any information on CAHILL family from > Troy, NY > or Margaret in particular I would love to hear from you. Any ideas on > where I go > from here? > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi! Hoping someone can help with this! I have been trying to get more information on my great grandmother who was from Tipperary. Her name was Margaret CAHILL and thought she was born in 1869 but her death certificate states 1872 but that could be incorrect. She came over to US in 1887 and married John MAGUIRE in 1894. They settled in Troy, NY and I have found a few possible immigration records but can't tell for sure if that would be her or not. She died in 1931 in Troy, NY and her obituary states she came from Tipperary when she was 17. One passenger list for the Arizona which landed on June 20 1887 in NY looks like it might fit. Can't read the age but it has two sisters with her Anna and I think Abina CAHILL. The City of Troy has no records for their marriage there and I have checked the NYC marriages list and can't find anything there. Anyone with any information on CAHILL family from Troy, NY or Margaret in particular I would love to hear from you. Any ideas on where I go from here?

Thanks again to Gay for publishing these notes. Aside from James Barry's Tipperary birth, this was also interesting as a reminder of the great Influenza Pandemic of 1918-1919, which took the lives of up to 100 million people (between 3% and 6% of the global population.. In the course of my genealogical research, I had learned that at least a couple of my kin had been among the victims of that pandemic. I suspect most on this list had similar casualties among their antecedents. Though referred to for a while as "the Spanish flu" (only because wartime censorship in many countries largely kept the public in the dark about it's extent and impact until the flu reached Spain, which did not have such censorship), it's origins are still speculative / hypothetical; ranging from arrival by meteorite and (possibly subsequent) bird to pig to human mutations/transmission. But a couple facts are clear. One is that ironically, while most pandemics hit hardest those with compromised / weaker immune systems (such as the elderly, or very young), the 1918 flu's victims were in contrast more often healthy young adults. Their stronger immune responses often led to the pneumonia which killed many including apparently James Barry. Another is that military camps (full of healthy young men in close quarters) experienced significant outbreaks. Fort Riley, Kansas, a large training camp of 30,000 to 50,000 men, reported an outbreak in early March 1918 (the first US case having been reported two months earlier.in a different part of Kansas). It could be concluded that World War I was a significant factor in the spread of the disease and the total numbers killed. If considered in that light, the number of casualties of that war might be triple or more the16 million estimated losses. ~Roger Hoffmann > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:35:46 -0700 > From: Gay Young <gyoungest@gmail.com> > Subject: [COTIPPERARY] James BARRY > To: CoTipperary-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <796D4614-116A-41E9-B9EA-9A2E3FE7F527@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > New Jersey, USA Archives > World War I Casualties > > Name: Barry, James > Age: 25 years 3 months > Number: 553,592 > Organization served in: Co I 4 Inf Co C 1st Bn US Guards, to death > Grade: Pvt > Race: White > Residence: Paterson > Enlisted at: Ft Slocum > Date: 18 april 1917 > Birthplace: Tipperary, Ireland > Cause of Death: Lobar pneumonia, Influenza > Death date: 17 Oct 1918 > Person to notified of death: Sister, Mrs George Hassal, 160 Sherman > Avenue, New York City > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COTIPPERARY list administrator, send an email to > COTIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COTIPPERARY mailing list, send an email to > COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COTIPPERARY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 48 > *******************************************

New Jersey, USA Archives World War I Casualties Name: Barry, James Age: 25 years 3 months Number: 553,592 Organization served in: Co I 4 Inf Co C 1st Bn US Guards, to death Grade: Pvt Race: White Residence: Paterson Enlisted at: Ft Slocum Date: 18 april 1917 Birthplace: Tipperary, Ireland Cause of Death: Lobar pneumonia, Influenza Death date: 17 Oct 1918 Person to notified of death: Sister, Mrs George Hassal, 160 Sherman Avenue, New York City