I noticed that within the grave yard off the Main Street in Adare, Co. Limerick there is an area marked for babies. It is on the extreme right by the wall. Next time I am there I will make note of the notice and tell you. Do other graveyards have such spaces? This is from an oral history story. Long ago (don't have dates) babies born to single mothers were baptised at midnight. Usually, one sponsor, and male. Anyone know more about this 'custom.' Betty

Hello All, any suggestions regarding the following? Several times I have seen (Dub) or (Dubious) after the given name on a child's birth record and the father's name is followed by what appears to be (Stranger). Sometimes mentioned is the fact that the child is illegitimate. Could this be a child born as the result of an assault? Also this 'cum mullis allies' was written on one record - couldn't find anything online to explain it either. Many thanks.

Freemen Eliogarty 1840 10 1397 Connor Maher of Annfield Denis Mollany? of Thurles Mathias? McDonnell of Thurles James Meehan of Cabra Thomas Maher of Galbooly John Maher of Borrisbeg Thomas Maher of Brittas Daniel Meagher of Drom John Molloy of Ballybeg Thomas McDonnell of Templemore Denis Mara of Boulabeha John Maher of Thurles Stephen Charles Moore of Barn & Archerstown Richard Moluncby?? of Thurles Michael Moylan of Garrynamona John Mara of Boulabeha Hugh Mulcahy of Thurles Thomas Maher of Killough William Mara of Bouilabeha John Maher, Jr. of Drom Timothy Maher of Brittas Philip Maher of Pollough Michael Maher of Leugh & Kilrush Patrick Maher of College Hill Michael Maher of Drom Denis Meara or Mara of Ballymoreen John Moloughney of Coldfields & Garrane John McCarty of Thurles Michael McDonald of Templemore Thomas Molony of Thurles & Rathcoonagh John Maher of Tullemain Castle & Thurles Hon.? Charles? ? ? Monck of Belville William Max of Maxfort Darby Maher of Maxfort Connor Maher of Annfield John Molloy of Ballybeg William? McDonnell of Kile---ck? James Maher of Brittas John <cNiery? of the Commons of Thurles Michael Molloy of Clonaleigh Malachy Maher of Galbooly Patrick Maher of Glabooly

Thanks, Clare. Aggi-Rose has tried and succeeded in enhancing the lists so I will later be able to clarify a lot of names and placenames, but right now I am not stopping to look things up. Any help whenever is appreciated. I have dug a little into the records and picked up a couple of transcription errors already. Having the original records will really help. It's like finding a treasure box and one doesn't know which parish to delve into first. Janet On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Clare Tuohy <claretuohy2@gmail.com> wrote: > Janet > Thanks so much for all your work. Have been distracted with the parish > records coming online but will soon concentrate on looking at the townlands > as I recognised some of those hard to read. > In the Eliogarty list No 7- I would think that Edmund Gorman was in > Garranroe not Garranane - I'm interested in the Gormans of Garranroe as I > recently found something that indicated that my gt-grandfather Terence > Gorman was born there so am busy trying to track through the parish records. > Regards > Clare > > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Janet Crawford via < > cotipperary@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Freemen Eliogarty 1840 9 1395 >> >> Can't read of Thurles >> Can't read of Can't read >> Can't read of possibly like Cullane >> James ? of Curraheen >> John Lahy of Cloharealy >> William Laffan of Bakestown? >> Edmond Long of Monroe >> William Laffan of Kil---ky >> Michael Lahy of Cloherealy >> Stephen Lanigan of Templemore >> James Lanigan [spelled Lenigan] of Cullinagh >> Edmond Lenigan of Thurles & Longfordpass >> Robert Lidwell of Thurles & Cormackstown >> Patrick Lonergan of Thurles >> Richard French Laurence of Littleton Glebe & Littleton >> Edmond Lahy of Ballypatrick >> Thomas Long of Ballypatrick >> Nicholas Laffan of Thurles & Farranreigh [Fertiana?] and ----mult? [ does >> not appear to be Rosmult] >> Thomas Laffan of Templemore >> William Strang Loughnan of Dean ? City of Kilkenny & Loughnane >> Henry Langley of Archerstown >> John Lynch of Templemore >> William Lahy of Graiguefrehane >> Patrick Lyons of Lisheenatagart >> Rev. William Laffan of Bakestown >> Maliky Maher of Galbooly >> Patrick Maher of Galbooly >> Darby Maher of Maxfort >> Michael Molloy of Clonaleigh & Borris >> Hugh Mulcahy of Thurles >> Francis Morony of Templemore >> William Maher of Thurles >> John McEniry of Commons of Thurles & Thurles >> Patrick Maher of Thurles >> James Mockler of Grange >> William McDonnell of Kil---? & Borris >> William Maher of Borrisbeg >> William Maher of Borrisbeg [another one] >> John Meighan of Mullanes >> Thomas Mullany of Drom & Fishmoyne >> Charles J.? K. Monk of Betville? or Belville & Templemore >> William Max of Maxfort >> James Maher of ?Heith? & Thurles >> >> >> >> When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: >> 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. >> 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned >> with. >> Thank You. >> >> All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Janet Thanks so much for all your work. Have been distracted with the parish records coming online but will soon concentrate on looking at the townlands as I recognised some of those hard to read. In the Eliogarty list No 7- I would think that Edmund Gorman was in Garranroe not Garranane - I'm interested in the Gormans of Garranroe as I recently found something that indicated that my gt-grandfather Terence Gorman was born there so am busy trying to track through the parish records. Regards Clare On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Janet Crawford via < cotipperary@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Freemen Eliogarty 1840 9 1395 > > Can't read of Thurles > Can't read of Can't read > Can't read of possibly like Cullane > James ? of Curraheen > John Lahy of Cloharealy > William Laffan of Bakestown? > Edmond Long of Monroe > William Laffan of Kil---ky > Michael Lahy of Cloherealy > Stephen Lanigan of Templemore > James Lanigan [spelled Lenigan] of Cullinagh > Edmond Lenigan of Thurles & Longfordpass > Robert Lidwell of Thurles & Cormackstown > Patrick Lonergan of Thurles > Richard French Laurence of Littleton Glebe & Littleton > Edmond Lahy of Ballypatrick > Thomas Long of Ballypatrick > Nicholas Laffan of Thurles & Farranreigh [Fertiana?] and ----mult? [ does > not appear to be Rosmult] > Thomas Laffan of Templemore > William Strang Loughnan of Dean ? City of Kilkenny & Loughnane > Henry Langley of Archerstown > John Lynch of Templemore > William Lahy of Graiguefrehane > Patrick Lyons of Lisheenatagart > Rev. William Laffan of Bakestown > Maliky Maher of Galbooly > Patrick Maher of Galbooly > Darby Maher of Maxfort > Michael Molloy of Clonaleigh & Borris > Hugh Mulcahy of Thurles > Francis Morony of Templemore > William Maher of Thurles > John McEniry of Commons of Thurles & Thurles > Patrick Maher of Thurles > James Mockler of Grange > William McDonnell of Kil---? & Borris > William Maher of Borrisbeg > William Maher of Borrisbeg [another one] > John Meighan of Mullanes > Thomas Mullany of Drom & Fishmoyne > Charles J.? K. Monk of Betville? or Belville & Templemore > William Max of Maxfort > James Maher of ?Heith? & Thurles > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Freemen Eliogarty 1840 9 1395 Can't read of Thurles Can't read of Can't read Can't read of possibly like Cullane James ? of Curraheen John Lahy of Cloharealy William Laffan of Bakestown? Edmond Long of Monroe William Laffan of Kil---ky Michael Lahy of Cloherealy Stephen Lanigan of Templemore James Lanigan [spelled Lenigan] of Cullinagh Edmond Lenigan of Thurles & Longfordpass Robert Lidwell of Thurles & Cormackstown Patrick Lonergan of Thurles Richard French Laurence of Littleton Glebe & Littleton Edmond Lahy of Ballypatrick Thomas Long of Ballypatrick Nicholas Laffan of Thurles & Farranreigh [Fertiana?] and ----mult? [ does not appear to be Rosmult] Thomas Laffan of Templemore William Strang Loughnan of Dean ? City of Kilkenny & Loughnane Henry Langley of Archerstown John Lynch of Templemore William Lahy of Graiguefrehane Patrick Lyons of Lisheenatagart Rev. William Laffan of Bakestown Maliky Maher of Galbooly Patrick Maher of Galbooly Darby Maher of Maxfort Michael Molloy of Clonaleigh & Borris Hugh Mulcahy of Thurles Francis Morony of Templemore William Maher of Thurles John McEniry of Commons of Thurles & Thurles Patrick Maher of Thurles James Mockler of Grange William McDonnell of Kil---? & Borris William Maher of Borrisbeg William Maher of Borrisbeg [another one] John Meighan of Mullanes Thomas Mullany of Drom & Fishmoyne Charles J.? K. Monk of Betville? or Belville & Templemore William Max of Maxfort James Maher of ?Heith? & Thurles

Betty, I am aware of stories that affirm that unbaptized children were buried late at night under the wall surrounding the graveyard to be as close to sacred ground as possible. There were, however, also graveyards for children, and from this I assume unbaptized children, otherwise there would be no need to bury them in a separate place. Whether that was consecrated gound, I don't know off-hand. Janet On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Betty Gough via <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> wrote: > A stillborn child is a corpse. A corpse is never baptised. > A record of stillbirths is relatively recent in Ireland. > > The reason for the long gap between births in a family can have many > explanations. Separation for whatever reason. Husband working away > from home. Illness. Many miscarriages, correctly called spontaneous > abortion. > > Does anyone know where stillborn children were buried in the past. At > one time, unbaptised persons were not permitted to be buried in the > consecrated ground of a Catholic grave yard. > Also, victims of suicide were not allowed to be buried in those same > cemeteries. > Does anyone have information on the two above. I only know of these > facts from oral history. > > Not sure if we are allowed to share stories of customs on this site. > Betty > > > > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tom wondered about seeing three witnesses at some marriages in the past. Personally, I don't know. Never heard of any particular reason. I imagine the groom and bride wanted more than the usual two witnesses. The third person was probably a relative or friend. Likewise, at Baptism, sponsors were usually two but sometimes only one. I have seen three names, but seldom. Some entries for marriage have names of witnesses that are different to the bride and groom. In those cases one or both may have been an only child. Another reason being that the siblings of one or both have already emigrated. Yet another reason being that the couple are getting married without the approval of family. Betty

A stillborn child is a corpse. A corpse is never baptised. A record of stillbirths is relatively recent in Ireland. The reason for the long gap between births in a family can have many explanations. Separation for whatever reason. Husband working away from home. Illness. Many miscarriages, correctly called spontaneous abortion. Does anyone know where stillborn children were buried in the past. At one time, unbaptised persons were not permitted to be buried in the consecrated ground of a Catholic grave yard. Also, victims of suicide were not allowed to be buried in those same cemeteries. Does anyone have information on the two above. I only know of these facts from oral history. Not sure if we are allowed to share stories of customs on this site. Betty

Betty and all, No problem sharing stories of customs, *as long as* it doesn't sink into a moral or political debate. Thanks Aggi-Rose List admin >Not sure if we are allowed to share stories of customs on this site. >Betty > > > > > > >When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: >1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. >2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. >Thank You. > >All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives >at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Of all the parish registers I have transcribed and those yet to be done and I can tell you I have read many in Ireland, I cannot recall ever seeing a deceased child referred to as still born, I have noted these words Church of Ireland were a bit more forthcoming with these notations 1- died shortly after birth 2- private baptism ( generally meant child not expected to live) But Roman Catholic the most I have seen is child is illegitimate or a b.........d...... As Nivard has said it was a long tome before still births were recorded in as much deaths were not actually recorded for many years in registers either of child or adult. A large gap between births can suggest many things, 1- the hubby was working away which did happen seasonally for some irish folk 2- he may have been in jail 3-woman may have miscarried much like today really only thing that never changes with research is the actual facts of what faces a woman when she is in her child bearing years. Good luck in your search Cara -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington via Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:14 AM To: cotipperary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] COTIPPERARY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 84 Hi Veronica I can't vouch for Ireland but in other places in the UK I have yet to see a stillbirth in a baptismal register They are sometimes recorded in burial registers, as in the Catholic faith, you can't baptise a deceased or stillborn child, I would not have thought the church would have recorded them in a baptismal register Perhaps others more experienced in research in Ireland can chime in if they know more It was quite some years after England/Wales and Scotland that Ireland started to record stillbirths under the civil system Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/07/2015 15:22, Veronica via wrote: > > > Does anyone know what the usual practice would be for Irish stillbirths? > Would they be entered in the baptismal register? I am trying to explain a > large gap in births for some of my ancestors. In German records I have > found > notations of stillborns in the baptismal records. > Veronica When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. Thank You. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Freemen Eliogarty 1840 8 1394 John Hackett of Longfordpass John Hickey of Longfordpass Timothy Hickey of Longfordpass Edmond Hackett of Borrisoglynn Michael ?Hahesy? of Forgestown Thomas Hayes of Skehane & Borris John Hayes of Skehane James Headen of Carrick Frederick Adolphus Jackson of ?Inane------? & Fartian---? John Jackson of Templemore John Kinshella of Kill John Kinshella of Kilvecorris? & Kill Philip Ker---? of Thurles Thomas K----? of Thurles & Cloghmartin Luke Keough of Templemore Patrick K----? of Thurles & Clone----? or Clor-----? Thomas Kirwin of Kilrush Cornelius Keating of Thurles John Kennedy of Tinvoher Timothy Keogh of Tinvoher Daniel Keogh of Tinvoher James Kennedy of Cloherealy John Kennedy of College Hill Joseph Kennedy of College Hill James Kennedy of Kilvecorris? edward K----sby? of Templemore Thomas Kingsmill of Templemore Thomas Kirwan? of Thurles & Cloghmartin John Kennedy of Tinvoher John Kinshella of Kilvecorris John Kinsella Jr. of Kile? Daniel Keough of Tinvoher William Lahy of Graiguefrehane John Lynch of Templemore Patrick Lynch of Templemore Patrick Lyons of Lisheenatagart Philip Lahy of Knockroe? Henry Langley of Archerstown Thomas Lanigan of Drom Andrew Long of Killahogan & Lisheenatagart John Lamphries? of Holycross & Parkstown Daniel Lanigan of Ballyheen? & Templemore Martin Laffan of Templemore

Greetings Listers: Over the years I purchased a lot of information from TFHR. The TFHR marriage records which were provided all listed only two witnesses, one with the same name as the groom and one with the same name as the bride. In researching the online microfilm records I have located a number of meaningful marriage records which list three witnesses, one person with the same name as each spouse and a third person with a different name. Does anyone have any information as to who the third person might be? Regards, Tom Sadler, Sister Bay, WI., USA Researching Sadlier (Anacarty-Donohill) and Ryan (Cashel)

Freemen Eliogarty 1840 7 1393 G-----? of ? & Garrane? ? of Thurles G of Parsonstown? or Piercestown James ? of Bohernamona Michael? Gleeson of Burrisoleigh & Fishmoyne Daniel Guilfoyle of Templemore Samuel M.? or N.? Going of Newhill & Littleton Timothy Geehan of Kilkillaharagh James Guest of Templemore John Guest of Templemore Edmond Gorman of Garranane? or Garranroe? John Guinan of Piercetown John Glascock of Kill Edmond Hackett of BorrisoGlynn? James Hennessy of Tinvoher Thomas Hargraft? of Templemore James Heffernan of Thurles Thomas Henessy of Thurles Denis Heenan of Thurles John H---nt? Jr. of Thurles & Ballyduffe David Henry of Dublin & Templemore Pierce Howard of Fishmoyne John Hackett of Longfordpass John Hickey of Longfordpass Timothy Hickey of Longfordpass Timothy Hickey of Cassestown & Cloherealy Thomas Hayes of Skehana & Borriss John Hayes of Skehana & Borriss William Harney? of Tinvoher William Healy of Kilrush James Headen of Carrick William Anthony Holmes of Dublin & Parish of Moycarky William Hogan of Drom Thomas Healy of [Q------?] of Thurles Denis Hennessy of Ballypatrick John Harney? of Thurles & Castletown John Healy of Templemore George Hewson of Templemore Rev. William Anthony Holmes of Templemore & Union of Templemore James Heffernan of Thurles Thomas Henesy of Thurles John Harney of Thurles James Henessy of Tinvoher

Hi That helped (even if the handwriting was a challenge), and have found the entry. Will have another go at finding the others. Thanks On 10/07/2015 8:59 a.m., Nivard Ovington via wrote: > Hi Chris > > I just did a quick test for the first entry and found that easy enough > > The details for which are :- > > Microfilm 02501 / 06 | Page 72 > > Cashel; County of Tipperary; Diocese of Cashel and Emly. Baptisms, Sep. > 1843 to Nov. 1843 > > ==== > > Go tohttp://www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx > > Under the words Catholic Parish Registers > > Click the link :- > > Visit the Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI website > > Enter Cashel and select the "Cashel (Diocese of Cashel and Emly)" > > Then select the first option for Cashel > > Scroll down and select Baptisms 21 Aug 1839 to 31 Mar 1866 (296 images) > Microfilm 02501/06 > > Use the filter to select the year and then scroll to the page required > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 09/07/2015 21:35, Chris Mahoney via wrote: >> Hi >> >> Anyone familiar with how the Catholic Parish Registers on the >> http://registers.nli.ie/parishes website work. >> >> I was given sometime ago details of several records of interest found on >> these, along with the film numbers, but have so far been unable to find >> the records on the actual scans themselves. >> >> The three I am trying to locate as follows: >> Bridget WALSH, baptised 9 October 1843 >> Joanis WALSH, baptised 6 September 1844 >> Andrew BARRY, married Bridget WALSH 6 November 1862 >> >> Location given for all was Cashel, Tipperary, and found on film 2501. >> Address of Main Street also given for the 1843 baptism. >> >> While I could find film 2501 on the website, I did not have much luck >> beyond that in trying to find these. >> >> Thanks > > > > When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: > 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. > 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. > Thank You. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives athttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toCOTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Anyone familiar with how the Catholic Parish Registers on the http://registers.nli.ie/parishes website work. I was given sometime ago details of several records of interest found on these, along with the film numbers, but have so far been unable to find the records on the actual scans themselves. The three I am trying to locate as follows: Bridget WALSH, baptised 9 October 1843 Joanis WALSH, baptised 6 September 1844 Andrew BARRY, married Bridget WALSH 6 November 1862 Location given for all was Cashel, Tipperary, and found on film 2501. Address of Main Street also given for the 1843 baptism. While I could find film 2501 on the website, I did not have much luck beyond that in trying to find these. Thanks ============ Visit my website at www.chrismahoney.co.nz

Hi Chris I just did a quick test for the first entry and found that easy enough The details for which are :- Microfilm 02501 / 06 | Page 72 Cashel; County of Tipperary; Diocese of Cashel and Emly. Baptisms, Sep. 1843 to Nov. 1843 ==== Go to http://www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx Under the words Catholic Parish Registers Click the link :- Visit the Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI website Enter Cashel and select the "Cashel (Diocese of Cashel and Emly)" Then select the first option for Cashel Scroll down and select Baptisms 21 Aug 1839 to 31 Mar 1866 (296 images) Microfilm 02501/06 Use the filter to select the year and then scroll to the page required Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/07/2015 21:35, Chris Mahoney via wrote: > Hi > > Anyone familiar with how the Catholic Parish Registers on the > http://registers.nli.ie/parishes website work. > > I was given sometime ago details of several records of interest found on > these, along with the film numbers, but have so far been unable to find > the records on the actual scans themselves. > > The three I am trying to locate as follows: > Bridget WALSH, baptised 9 October 1843 > Joanis WALSH, baptised 6 September 1844 > Andrew BARRY, married Bridget WALSH 6 November 1862 > > Location given for all was Cashel, Tipperary, and found on film 2501. > Address of Main Street also given for the 1843 baptism. > > While I could find film 2501 on the website, I did not have much luck > beyond that in trying to find these. > > Thanks

Hi Veronica I can't vouch for Ireland but in other places in the UK I have yet to see a stillbirth in a baptismal register They are sometimes recorded in burial registers, as in the Catholic faith, you can't baptise a deceased or stillborn child, I would not have thought the church would have recorded them in a baptismal register Perhaps others more experienced in research in Ireland can chime in if they know more It was quite some years after England/Wales and Scotland that Ireland started to record stillbirths under the civil system Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/07/2015 15:22, Veronica via wrote: > > > Does anyone know what the usual practice would be for Irish stillbirths? > Would they be entered in the baptismal register? I am trying to explain a > large gap in births for some of my ancestors. In German records I have found > notations of stillborns in the baptismal records. > Veronica

Hi Listers One of my cohorts has already found a marriage in Thurles and there seems to be a lot of RYANs in this particular parish. Catholic Parish Registers at the NLIThis website contains images from the NLI’s collection of Catholic parish register microfilms. The registers contain records of baptisms and marriages from the majo... View on registers.nli.ie Preview by Yahoo Shirlee Wellington, NZ

Freemen Eliogarty 1840 6 1392 Patrick Fogarty of Cabra James Fogarty of Clonesmullen McGrath? Fogarty of Ballinlonty Philip Fogarty of Drom Rev, Patrick Fant of Templemore Richard Fogarty of Thurles & Mullanes James Fogarty of Graiguefrehane Patrick Fogarty of Gariagefrehane William Fitt? or Fett? of Templemore Patrick Fennelly? of Castletown Patrick Fanning? of Thurles Patrick Fogarty of Thurles Edward Fanning? of Thurles John Fitt? of Templemore Patrick Fogarty of Magherariegh Patrick Fennelly of Castletown William Foley of Moycarky Castle & Derryhogan Patrick Fogarty of Cabra Castle & Cabra McGrath Fogarty of Ballinlonty Rev. Damuel Ferguson of ? Glebe, Co. Meath & Moyle and Kildonagh Rev. William N.? Falkiner of Templemore & Forest or Seskin John Fogarty of Lisheenatagart Connor Fogarty of Lisheenatagart Thomas Fogarty of Lisheenatagart Michael Fogarty of Barnalisheen Thomas Fanning of Coldfields? Michael Fogarty of Clondoaty John Glascock of Kill Joseph Going of Liskieran? John Going of Newhill & Liskieran? John Guest of Templemore James Guest of Templemore Michael Grady of Templemore Patrick Gleeson of Drom Thomas Gleeson of Tubberna----? & Banoge Francis Glaney? of Templemore Laurence Gorman of Knock----? & Nickeen? [May both be Knockaney?] Thomas Gleeson of Curraheen John Gleeson of Cloherealy Thomas Gleeson of Garranamona/ Garrynamona John Guilfoyle of Lisdonalty William Grey of Templemore Patrick Gleeson of Kilrush