Hi Brenda, Many thanks for your reply. I will check out the sites you suggest as soon as I can and let you know the results. Regards Ann

Hi, Check out this site which gives Griffiths valuation for 1849. There is 1 Edward Meaney and 1 Edward Meany. Check out both as spelling variations is usual. There are also a number of Edmund Meanys. Put in surname and Tipperary for results. http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php Also a couple of other sites which may prove useful are http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip/tipperary.htm and http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/tipp/ Have you checked 1871 census for Liverpool & Birkenhead? Regards Brenda ----- Original Message ---- From: "Epmatt3@aol.com" <Epmatt3@aol.com> To: COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 12 December, 2007 3:15:57 AM Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Edward Meaney c.1871 Can anyone help please ? I am trying to trace my great great grandfather Edward Meaney (date of birth not known) and his son my great grandfather also Edward Meaney who was born Tipperary c.1847 and who died suddenly in Birkenhead in 1881 at the age of 34. When he left Ireland he could have been living either in Liverpool or Birkenhead around 1871. He lived after his marriage to Catherine Ellis of Flintshire, North Wales in 1875 in Birkenhead and had 6 children: Annie (my grandmother) in 1872; Margaret Meaney c1874; Edward John Meaney c1875; William Augustus c1878 and twins Joanna and Catherine c1880. On his death certificate his occupation is given as a Coachman and I have been told his family in Ireland had something to do with horses. On their marriage certificate in 1875 his father (Edward Meaney) is given as a Car Properietor but whether this was in Ireland or the U.K. I don't know. Any help you can give as to where to start searching would be appreciated. Ann Matthews ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. www.yahoo7.com.au/worldsbestemail

Can anyone help please ? I am trying to trace my great great grandfather Edward Meaney (date of birth not known) and his son my great grandfather also Edward Meaney who was born Tipperary c.1847 and who died suddenly in Birkenhead in 1881 at the age of 34. When he left Ireland he could have been living either in Liverpool or Birkenhead around 1871. He lived after his marriage to Catherine Ellis of Flintshire, North Wales in 1875 in Birkenhead and had 6 children: Annie (my grandmother) in 1872; Margaret Meaney c1874; Edward John Meaney c1875; William Augustus c1878 and twins Joanna and Catherine c1880. On his death certificate his occupation is given as a Coachman and I have been told his family in Ireland had something to do with horses. On their marriage certificate in 1875 his father (Edward Meaney) is given as a Car Properietor but whether this was in Ireland or the U.K. I don't know. Any help you can give as to where to start searching would be appreciated. Ann Matthews

2-8-1993 From the Times. To illustrate the fact that a not inconsiderable number of people in the lower stratum of society did not use hereditary surnames even as late as 1650, MacLysaght's Irish Families mentions a case where a witness signed himself James Mac Thomas, where there was evidence that this man's father was Thomas Mac Teige. In his "Surnames of Ireland" he calls those names ephemeral cognomina, these being names formed by prefixing Mac to a Christian name. A great many of these are to be found in the Ormond Deeds, especially those of the sixteenth century i.e. Mac Nicholas, Mac Phelim, Mac Rory, Mac Walter, and Mac Thomas. This latter, also rendered Fitz Thomas, was especially applicable to such well known families as the Fitzgeralds. The surname Thomas, of comparatively recent introduction, but now fairly numerous throughout Ireland was in some cases an abbreviation of the medieval Mac Thomas. Mac Thomas however was quite numerous when the 1659 Census was compiled, being amongst the principal Irish names in Cork City and two baronies of that County, in three baronies of County Kerry, two each in County Limerick and County Tipperary, and in six baronies of County Waterford. Not a single person of that name was listed as a Titulado, thought the County Tipperary Civil Survey Book (1654) lists William Mac Thomas as sharing 74 acres with William Shanaghan of Glankeene. Now spelled Glenkeen this is the name of a town land and parish in County Tipperary, as well as towns lands in Mayo, Derry, Laois, Donegal, Tyrone, and Fermanagh, and appears to be Gleann Caoin, "Pleasant Valley". It is not possible to say what percentage of those bearing the surname Thomas are in fact Mac Thomas. The 1814 Directory lists Thomases in Co. Wicklow, Carlow, Kildare, Laois and Galway, though not a single Mac Thomas. "Owners of Land of one acre and upwards" (1876), lists Thomases (again no Mac Thomas) in the Leinster counties of Carlow, Kildare, Kilkenny, Laois and Wexford and also in Cork and Armagh. The largest landowner among them was Francis A. Thomas, Martinstown, Killinick, Co. Wexford, who had 494 acres in that County, as well as 39 acres in Carlow, and 1968 acres in Kilkenny. In "Irish Family Names" Brian de Breffny writes of a rare Co. Cavan name in Irish Mac Thamhais, a name which is close to the translation of Thom(p)son as son of Thomas, which would be Mac Thomais or Mac Thomais in Irish. Although we find no reference in either Mac Lysaght or Cottle's "The Penguin Dictionary of Surnames" to the surname Mac Comas or Mac Comish, we wonder if this is not the anglicised form of Mac Thomais. In the late 18th century Samuel M'Comas kept a tailoring establishment in Dame Street, and the 1836 Dublin Directory lists Samuel M'Comas, draper and merchant tailor at 2 Lower Abbey Street, with William M'Comas & Son, military and merchant tailors, at 51 Grafton Street and George Street, Kingstown. The 1850 Dublin Directory had M'Comases at Westmoreland Street, 46 Grafton Street, and Samuel at 2 Lower Abbey Street. Current telephone directories list two McComases and seven McComishes in the Dublin area, and 30 McComishes in the North of Ireland. Sometime in the 1520's Morina Eny ne Thomas (Mor Inion nic Thomais), widow, was killed by Edmund Toben Fitz Walter late of Modessel, and on the same day, said Edmund at Modessel raped one Graynee Iny Loyn (Grainne Inion Ui Laighin) single woman against her will. In the margin of this account next to Edmund's name was mortuus est. (MORTUUS EST. A return made by the sheriff, when the defendant is dead, as an excuse for not executing the writ.)

Arthur, I can now see that the Worcestershire regiment was not stationed at Templemore Barracks but at Tipperary Barracks, which is/was apparently apparently near the station. From http://homepage.eircom.net/~tipperaryfame/barracks.htm I can see that in 1903-4 the 3rd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment was known as '3rd Battalion Militia' >Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:56:00 +0100 >To: cotipperary@rootsweb.com >From: Mike Bosworth <mike@bosworth.dk> >Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Annie May Moore b. abt. 1882 in Tipperary > >Arthur, > >Thank you for your response. >The information I have about the 3rd Batt. Worcestershire Regiment's >movements is taken from >http://www.worcestershireregiment.com/wr.php?main=inc/bat_3 >On this site one can see a photograph (or may be an artist's >representation) of 'Tipperary Barracks' > >Not being familier with the area I am not able to know whether this >is Templemore Barracks or another. >Mike in Denmark > > > >At 11:45 10-12-2007, you wrote: >>Mike - >> >>Was the regiment at the Templemore Barracks, do you know? >>In the draft of my book CARDEN OF TEMPLEMORE, now available from >>www.lulu.com I have tried to list the regiments which were based at the >>Templemore Barracks from time to time. If you or any other listers can give >>me additional information, I will be delighted to include it in the second >>edition, hopefully to be issued towards the end of 2008. >> >>Arthur Carden of Horsham, England >> >>PS. For my address, my books and other matters please visit >>http://www.one-name.org/profiles/carden.html >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Mike Bosworth" <mike@bosworth.dk> >>To: <COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:50 AM >>Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Annie May Moore b. abt. 1882 in Tipperary >> >> >> > Further my last, the dates of the Worcestershire Regiment in >> > Tipperary should of course read from spring 1802 to winter 1804-5, >> > not 1902 to 1904-5. Sorry for the typo. Mike in Denmark >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Arthur, Thank you for your response. The information I have about the 3rd Batt. Worcestershire Regiment's movements is taken from http://www.worcestershireregiment.com/wr.php?main=inc/bat_3 On this site one can see a photograph (or may be an artist's representation) of 'Tipperary Barracks' Not being familier with the area I am not able to know whether this is Templemore Barracks or another. Mike in Denmark At 11:45 10-12-2007, you wrote: >Mike - > >Was the regiment at the Templemore Barracks, do you know? > >In the draft of my book CARDEN OF TEMPLEMORE, now available from >www.lulu.com I have tried to list the regiments which were based at the >Templemore Barracks from time to time. If you or any other listers can give >me additional information, I will be delighted to include it in the second >edition, hopefully to be issued towards the end of 2008. > >Arthur Carden of Horsham, England > >PS. For my address, my books and other matters please visit >http://www.one-name.org/profiles/carden.html > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mike Bosworth" <mike@bosworth.dk> >To: <COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:50 AM >Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Annie May Moore b. abt. 1882 in Tipperary > > > > Further my last, the dates of the Worcestershire Regiment in > > Tipperary should of course read from spring 1802 to winter 1804-5, > > not 1902 to 1904-5. Sorry for the typo. Mike in Denmark > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further my last, the dates of the Worcestershire Regiment in Tipperary should of course read from spring 1802 to winter 1804-5, not 1902 to 1904-5. Sorry for the typo. Mike in Denmark

Can anyone help me trace the birth and parents of Annie May Moore thought born abt. 1882 in Tipperary. Annie May Moore married abt 1803 Arthur Samuel Yarnold, an instrumentalist with the 3rd Batt. Worcestershire Regimental Band, stationed in Tipperary from spring 1902 to winter 1904-5. Arthur was a Corporal on arrival Tipperary but promoted to Sergeant on 16 Jul 1803. Thank you. Mike in Denmark

Mike - Was the regiment at the Templemore Barracks, do you know? In the draft of my book CARDEN OF TEMPLEMORE, now available from www.lulu.com I have tried to list the regiments which were based at the Templemore Barracks from time to time. If you or any other listers can give me additional information, I will be delighted to include it in the second edition, hopefully to be issued towards the end of 2008. Arthur Carden of Horsham, England PS. For my address, my books and other matters please visit http://www.one-name.org/profiles/carden.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Bosworth" <mike@bosworth.dk> To: <COTIPPERARY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Annie May Moore b. abt. 1882 in Tipperary > Further my last, the dates of the Worcestershire Regiment in > Tipperary should of course read from spring 1802 to winter 1804-5, > not 1902 to 1904-5. Sorry for the typo. Mike in Denmark

458. Michael Burke - N 459. William Hogan - Trial postponed & out on bail 460. Patrick McGrath - ditto 461. James Burke - ditto 462. James Brien - N 463. James Powell - N 464. Michael Quinn - N 465. John Lenon - N [Lehnan] 466. Edward O'Brien - N 467. Patrick Dunn - N [Dunne] 468. Michael Brien - N 469. Patrick Hogan - N - Transported 470. James Minogue - N 471. James McGrath - N 472. Hugh Kennedy - N 473. Edward Considine - N 474. Michael Ryan - N 475. Thomas Ryan - N 476. Denia Ryan - N 477. John Ryan - N 478. Patrick Ryan - Trial postponed 479. Matthew Moroney - C 480. Patrick Burke - C 481. Michael Bradshaw - C 482. Patrick Gleeson - N 483. Michael Moloney - N 484. Patt Gleeson - N 485. John Moloney - N 486. Hugh Mara - N 487. John Mara - N 488. Michael Mara - N 489. John Corboy - N 490. James Cranley - N 491. Michael Connors - N 492. Thomas Brereton - N 493. Denia Maddin - N 494. Daniel Hogan - N 495. Cornelius Moloney - N 496. Martin Moran - N 497. Patrick Gannon - trial postponed & out on bail The end.

389. Cornelius Kelly - N 390. John Callinan - N 391. Martin Hallinan - N 392. Robert Carter - N 393. John Curravan - N 394. Maurice Kingsley - N 395. Peter Woods - N 396. William Cane - N 397. James Houlihan - N 398. John Egan - N 399. James Derilan - N 400. William Ryan - C - Transported 401. Patt Flanigan - C 402. Thomas Burke - C - Transported 403. Nicholad Flinn - C 404. Thomas Cullen - C - Transported 405. John McLoughlin - C 406. Robert Horan - C 407. Patt Gleeson - N 408. James Gleeson - N 409. Denis Gleeson - N 410. Maurice Savage - N 411. Samuel Young - N 412. John Wholahan - N [Houlihan] 413. James Wholahan - N 414. William Carroll - N 415. Thady Fell - C 416. William Fell - C 417. William McCraith - C [McGrath] 418. Patrick Davern - C 419. William Dwyer - C - Transported 420. Patrick English - C - Transported 421. John Dwyer - C 422. Thomas Phelan - C - Transported 423. James Fleming - C - Transported 424. Edward Neill - C - Transported 425. Daniel Lahy - C - Transported 426. James Donovan - C - Transported 427. Thomas Kilduff - C 428. Michael Curravan - C 429. John Fogarty - C 430. Pierce Mullaly - C 431. William Morrissy - C 432. Michael Dwyer - C 433. Thomas Allen - C - Transported 434. Patrick Duggan - C 435. John Bradshaw - C 436. Thomas Britt - C 437. John Prendergast - N 438. Edward Fitzgerald - N 439. Patrick Conway - N 440. Michael White - N 441. Daniel Cormery - N 442. James Ryan - N 443. James Ryan - N 444. Michael Callahan - N 445. Michael Gleeson - N 446. Patrick Ryan - N 447. Daniel Coffee - N 448. John Kennedy - N 449. Thomas Bourke - N 450. John Caplis - N 451. Daniel O'Brien - N 452. Daniel McNamara - N 453. John McNamara - N 454. William O'Brien - N 455. Richard Nix - N 456. James Nix - N 457. Robert Caplis - N To be cont'd

C is for Cashel & N is for Nenagh. Carmen-Pittsburgh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Suttles" <tomsuttles@mac.com> To: <cotipperary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] 1823 Insurrection Act arrests - Part 8 > What does the initial after the name mean? > Tom > On Dec 9, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Janet Crawford wrote: > > 317. James Ryan - C > 318. Maurice Sheridan - C > 319. John Heffernan - C > 320. Timothy Maher - N > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

317. James Ryan - C 318. Maurice Sheridan - C 319. John Heffernan - C 320. Timothy Maher - N 321. Michael Heffernan N 322. John Galvan - N 323. John Ryan - N 324. James Ryan - N 325. Michael Kennedy - N 326. Michael Fahey - N 327. Thomas Hubbert - N 328. William Bonfield - N 329. John Ryan - C 330. John Moroney - C 331. John Fraher - C 332. John Keane - C 333. Daniel Duggan - C 334. Christopher Torpey - C 335. James Clifford - C 336. Nicholas Flinn - C 337. Martin Fitzgerald - C - Transported 338. Michael Dwyer - C 339. John Murphy - C 340. Patrick Fogarty - C 341. John Sir - C 342. Michael Rule - C [Real?] 343. Patrick Fogarty - C 344. Timothy Cormack - C 345. Michael Kelly - C 346. Darby Ryan - C 347. William Jordan C 348. James Long - C 349. John Mara - C 350. Michael Brien - N 351. William Egan - N 352. Timothy Spain - N 353. James Galvin - N 354.Cornelius Mara - N 355. John Donohue - N 356. John Donohue - N 357. Michael Donohue - N 358. John Carter - N 359. Darby Moran - N 360. Daniel Mara - N 361. Michael Day - N 362. Philip Kelly - N 363. Cornelius Spain - N 364. John Moran - N 365. Patt Gavin - N 366. Daniel Mara - N 367. John Spain - N 368. Roger Donohue - N 369. Roger Spain - N 370. Patt Mulcahy - N - Transported 371. John Morgan - N 372. John Wheatley - N 373. Michael Kennedy - N 374. Richard Kelly - N 375. Stephen Ryan - N 376. John Grenan - N 377. James Linch - N [Lynch] 378. James Wixstead - N 379. John Wixstead - N 380. John Mara - N 381. Darby Finn - N 382. James mara - N 383. Michael Tynan - N 384. Martin Heagney - N 385. John Kelly - N 386. John Tooher - N [Toohey?] 387. James Tooher - N 388. William Tooher To be cont'd Janet

What does the initial after the name mean? Tom On Dec 9, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Janet Crawford wrote: 317. James Ryan - C 318. Maurice Sheridan - C 319. John Heffernan - C 320. Timothy Maher - N

251. James Gleeson - N 252. John Casey - C 253. Lawrence Maher - C 254. Pierce Connors - C 255. Thomas Quick - C - Transported 256. Thomas Gleeson - C 257 John O'Shea - C - Transported 258. John Heffernan - C 259. James Heereen - C 260. Michael Heffernan - C 261. Richard Fleming - C 262. John Carty - C 263. James Franklin - C - Transported 264. Florence Mahoney - C 265. Thomas Casey _ C 266. Thomas Daley - C 267. Thomas Dwyer - C 268. John Sullivan - C 269. Tim Sullivan - C 270. Denis Sullivan - C 271. Michael Duggan - C 272. Thomas Fotzgerald - C 273. William Ryan - C 274. William Cahill - C 275. Michael Cormack - C 276. Edward Quinlan - C 277. Daniel Quinlan - C 278. Patt Scully - N 279. John Corboy - N 280. William Brien - N 281. Thomas Corcoran - N 282. James Gleeson - N 283. John Costelloe - N 284. James Duffy - N - Transported 285. Patt Campion - N 286. John Teefy - N - Transported 287. Denis Flannery - N - Transported 288. John Fogarty - N 289. John Ryan - N - Transported 290. Lawrence Darmofy - N 291. James Conroy - N - Transported 292. John Gleeson - N 293. Patt Toohey - N 294. Michael Deer - N [There is an opinion that Deer is a form of Dwyer] 295. Michael McKeogh - N 296. Patrick Kennedy - N 297. Patrick Kelly 298. Philip Devan - N 299. John Dugan - N 300. Richard Cahill - N - Transported 301. John Cullen - N 302. John Hurley - N 303. Martin Flinn - N 304. William Shaughnessy - N 305. John Flanigan - N 306. Patt Flanigan - N 307. Thomas Flanigan - N 308. Timothy Daniher - N 309. James Hayes - N - Transported 310. Daniel Torpey - N 311. John Ronan - N 312. Jeremiah Dwyer - N 313. Richard Cummins - N 314. John Fogarty - N 315. Thomas Maher - C 316. Thomas Leingan - C [Lonergan?] To be Cont'd

182. Thomas Myres - C [Myers?] 183. William Ahern - C 184. Robert Purcell - C 185. Robert Freeze - C 186. John Croagh - C [Crowe] 187. Edward Kennedy - N 188. John Maher - N 189. Patrick Murray - N 190. Colnelius Kennedy - N 191. Edward Moore - N 192. Patrick Toohey - N 193. William Hunt - N 194. Thomas Nix - N 195. Rody Dwyer - N 196. Kenedy McDonnel - N 197. Timothy Quinlan - N 198. John Quinlan - N 199. Roger Gleeson - N 200. William Gleeson - N 201. Michael Hogan - N 202. Patrick Boland - N 203. William Gleeson - N 204. James Wright - N 205. Robert Caplis - N 206. Patrick Crohane - N - Transported 207. Michael Quinlan - N 208. James Quinlan - N 209. James Conroy - N 210. Martin Ryan - N 211. Daniel Ryan - N 212. Michael Ryan - N 213. John Nihil - N 214. John McNamara - N 215. Michael Ryan - N - Transported 216. John Delaney - N 217. Rody Hogan - N 218. Brien Waddick - N 219. James Waddick - N 220. Maurice Maddick - N 221. Denis Scattery - N 222. Jeremiah Hogan - N 223. James Mara - N 224. William Mara - N 225. Patt Mara - N 226. Patt Hanly - N 227. Matt Ryan - N 228. Patt Quigley - N 229. Patt Gallaher - N 230. Michael Ryan - N 231. Michael Maddin - N 232. John Burke - N 233. Patt McLoughlin - N 234. Thomas Darcy - N 235. John Purcell - N 236. Patt Costelloe - N 237. Simon Larkin - N 238. Daniel Maxwell - N 239. John Kennedy - N 240. William Kennedy - N 241. Daniel Hogan - N 242. Patrick Joice - N 243. John Darmody - N 244. Patt McDonald - N 245. Cornelius McDonald - N 246. John McDonald - N 247. Timothy McDonald - N 248. James Howard - N 249. Denis Boyle - N 250. Andrew Kennedy - N To be cont'd

113. Patrick Kennedy - N 114. Matthew Kennedy - N 115. Patrick Fogarty - N 116. John Russell - N 117. Matthew Kirwan - N 118. John Carroll - N 119. Denis Galvin - N 120. William Galvin - N 121. Michael Donohoe - N 122. John Kelly - N 123. John Darmody - N 124. Patrick Marmion - N 125. James Lawlor - N 126. John Carrigan - N 127. Edward Carrigan - N 128. Terence Kelly - N 129. John Toohey - N 130. Nicholas Kelly - N 131. Thomas Heffernan - N 132. Daniel Carroll - N 133. William Gleeson - N 134. Maurice Abbott - N 135. John Walsh - N 136. William Burke - N 137. Patrick Harty - N 138. Daniel Gleeson - N 139. John Coffee - N 140. Michael Ryan - N 141. James Minogue - N 142. Michael Burke - N 143. James Lee - N 144. Michael Hogan - N 145. Patt Harrington - N 146. Pat Ryan - N 147. Thomas Gleeson - N 148. James Moylan - N 149. James Kennedy - N 150. Michael Fogarty - N 151. Patrick Stokes - N 152. John Keating - N 153. William Darcy - N 154. Richard Ivers - N 155. Edward Connors - N 156. William Britt - N 157. Michael Britt - C 158. Edward Gainon - C [Guinan] 159. John Greany - C 160. John Shanahan - C 161. John Ryan - C 162. Martin Walsh - C 163. Mathew Walsh - C 164. Maurice Fahey - C 165. John Lonergan - C 166. Daniel Keating - C - Transported 167. David Browne - C 168. John Butler - N 169. Thomas Shanahan - C - Transported 170. Patrick Doolan - C 171. Thomas Strumbold - C 172. Michael Hickey - C 173. Richard Moroney - C 174. Patrick Fogarty - C 175. Denis Murphy - C 176. Maurice Stack - C 177. William Hickey - C 178. Charles Meehan - C 179. John Burns - C 180. Martin Breen - C - Transported 181. James Guirey - C [Geary] To be cont'd Janet

Hello all, I have attached this email to every one in my Dads address book so if you have received this and don't know Ron personally I apologise. It is with much regret that I have to inform you of the passing of my Dad, Ron Hawthorne. He has been ill for some months now, and was admitted to hospital again a couple of weeks ago. Things took a turn for the worst and he passed away on Wednesday 28th November. Dad received so much enjoyment from his computer and all his genealogy contacts, (that was when we realised how sick he was when he was unable to continue !) Most days started with "I'll get into the computer room today" but unfortunately he never did. I would just like to thank all of you for the friendship and help that you showed him over the years, as much as he drove us nuts with all of his family trees talk, he so enjoyed every minute he spent in front of this screen. We will miss him so much, as theres no one quite like my Dad ! Regards Cheryl Evans ( Rons daughter) Received: from vscan59.melbpc.org.au

Robert Going--I am interested in your surname. It is the name of a long-time agent collecting rents on the properties around Templemore in the mid-19th century. Ring a bell? I do believe it to be disgrace that Budweiser is sold and asked for throughout Ireland. Of course, I believe that Anhauser-Busch now owns Guinness or is in the same corporate family. Do you know the joke about Budweiser being like making love in a canoe?--Tom At 03:00 PM 12/5/2007, you wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:24:58 -0500 >From: "Robert N. Going" <rgoing@nycap.rr.com> >Subject: [COTIPPERARY] C&E records and pints in Ballina >To: CoTipperary-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <4756605A.8080208@nycap.rr.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >It was indeed Goosers where I tipped the pint in Ballina and I am quite >shocked to find that a parish within sight of the cathedral in Killaloe >would be in the C&E Diocese. > >BTW, my wife asked for a Harp and was told none was available. When I >asked what they DID have on tap they told me "Carling Black Lable and >Budweiser." Well, we didn't fly all the way from upstate New York just >to have an expensive import brew from the USA. Especially not a hoi >polloi brewski. > >After the Guinness I drove across the rickety narrow bridge across the >Shannon to Killaloe, with truck traffic headed the other way. THERE is >a driving experience somewhat akin to the Connor Pass. Is that bridge a >thousand years old? Sure looked it.

* Oops. The book is for 1824, but I just noticed the trials were actually in 1823. 69. William Heaney - C 70. Thomas Flanigan - C 71. JHohn Bergin - C 72. Edward Mullalley - C 73. John Quinlan - C 74. Matthew Wall - C 75. Daniel Hallihan - N 76. Denis Houlihan - N 77. Edward Houlihan - N 78. James Houlihan - N 79. John Wheatley - N 80. James Nowlan - N - Transported 81. Michael Ryan - N - Transported 82. Michael Ducie - N 83. Michael Gleeson - N 84. Lewis Carroll - N 85. James Heenan - N 86. Nicholas Flinn - N [Flynn] 87. Thomas Griffin - N 88. Michael Ryan - N 89. James Dywer - N 90. James Toohey - N 91. Hugh Ryan - N 92. John Burchell - N - Transported 93. John Conroy - N 94. Henry Power - N 95. James Power - N 96. John Power - N 97. Timothy Gleeson - N 98. John Baskerfield - N 99. John Maddin - N 100. Michael Quinn - N 101. Martin Brien - N 102. John Hogan - N 103. Matthew Hogan - N 104. John Gleeson - N 105. John Hogan - N 106. Thomas Cashin - N 107. Patrick Doolin - N 108. John Coghlan - N 109. James Carroll - N 110. Thomas Mara - N 111. John Murphy - N 112. Daniel Kennedy - N More tomorrow Janet