Mary BURNS b 1786 Tipperary d 18 Dec 1872 Carleton Co, Ontario Canada

James BYRON b 1804 Tipperary d Apr 1887 Ontario Co, Ontario Canada informant - Mrs Jane BYRON of Pickering Roman Catholic

Mary CAHILL, widow, 88 years in Canada b 16 Jun 1838 Tipperary d 8 Jan 1930 Northumberland Co, Ontario Canada father - Denis CORCORAN b Tipp mother - Johanna CUDDAHEE b Tipp informant - son, Edward James CAHILL

Brian, I have one more thing that might help. TFHR had told us that (your) Daniel was the son of Daniel Doherty Sr., which the dates contradicted. You now know that your Daniel was the son of John, and Daniel Sr. did have a brother, John bap. Dec. 20th, 1829 in Cummer, Kilcommon parish, son of Owen Doherty and Catherine Quigley. I have no information on John's marriage or children in my records. Your Daniel born c. 1852 could well fit as one of his children. Janet On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:03 AM, brian magaoidh <bmagaoidh@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi all, > I thought I would give a quick update on my visit to Dublin yesterday. > For a start I forgot how lovely it is! > Happily, I managed to find Timothys Dohertys Death certificate. Here is the information from that. > > District: Belfast Urban No 2. > No 318. > Date and Place of Death: Fourth May 1918, Military Hospital Clifton Street. > Name and Surname: Timothy Doherty, 13 Cairns St. > Age last birthday: 35 > Occupation: Soldier > Casrtified Cause of Death: G.S.W. 5 months Septicaemia. > Signature, Qulaification and Residence of Informant: Wm. Jno Keenan(?), present at death Military Hospital Clifton St. > Registered: Sixth May 1918. > > I also found what I believe to be his parents marriage certificate. > 20th January 1881, Daniel Doherty ( Bachelor) married Johanna Flynn (Spinster). > Daniel was 29 years and was a Private in the 48th Regt. He resided Military Barracks, Tipperary. > Johanna was 19 years and resided in Spittal, Tipperary. > Daniels father John Doherty ( Hackler) was deceased. > Johannas father Timothy Flynn ( Labourer) was also deceased. > It was witnessed by John McManus Corpl 48th Regt and Mary (?) Fanning. > > Unfortunately, I still cannot find his birth certificate.I had ordered a number of certificates but as the place was closing the last one I did must have had the wrong reference on the photocopy request as it was for a different person!! > > > At least now I have another place to look in Tipperary! > > > > Brian Magaoidh > http://ulster.failteromhat.com/ > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! for Good helps you make a difference > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hey, Brian, you are making some progress. Spittal is part of Tipp Town, so you know she was probably from there for sure. This would be the same woman I mentioned to you. And you know the last place Timothy was stationed, Belfast. I had no record of the son, Timothy, being born in the diocese of Cashel & Emly, but that may not be true. Since both father (and son) were soldiers, the birth could have taken place anywhere. Also, there may only have been a civil birth registration. Will you get down to Tipp Town? The Flynn family is still here. Janet On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:03 AM, brian magaoidh <bmagaoidh@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi all, > I thought I would give a quick update on my visit to Dublin yesterday. > For a start I forgot how lovely it is! > Happily, I managed to find Timothys Dohertys Death certificate. Here is the information from that. > > District: Belfast Urban No 2. > No 318. > Date and Place of Death: Fourth May 1918, Military Hospital Clifton Street. > Name and Surname: Timothy Doherty, 13 Cairns St. > Age last birthday: 35 > Occupation: Soldier > Casrtified Cause of Death: G.S.W. 5 months Septicaemia. > Signature, Qulaification and Residence of Informant: Wm. Jno Keenan(?), present at death Military Hospital Clifton St. > Registered: Sixth May 1918. > > I also found what I believe to be his parents marriage certificate. > 20th January 1881, Daniel Doherty ( Bachelor) married Johanna Flynn (Spinster). > Daniel was 29 years and was a Private in the 48th Regt. He resided Military Barracks, Tipperary. > Johanna was 19 years and resided in Spittal, Tipperary. > Daniels father John Doherty ( Hackler) was deceased. > Johannas father Timothy Flynn ( Labourer) was also deceased. > It was witnessed by John McManus Corpl 48th Regt and Mary (?) Fanning. > > Unfortunately, I still cannot find his birth certificate.I had ordered a number of certificates but as the place was closing the last one I did must have had the wrong reference on the photocopy request as it was for a different person!! > > > At least now I have another place to look in Tipperary! > > > > Brian Magaoidh > http://ulster.failteromhat.com/ > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! for Good helps you make a difference > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, I thought I would give a quick update on my visit to Dublin yesterday. For a start I forgot how lovely it is! Happily, I managed to find Timothys Dohertys Death certificate. Here is the information from that. District: Belfast Urban No 2. No 318. Date and Place of Death: Fourth May 1918, Military Hospital Clifton Street. Name and Surname: Timothy Doherty, 13 Cairns St. Age last birthday: 35 Occupation: Soldier Casrtified Cause of Death: G.S.W. 5 months Septicaemia. Signature, Qulaification and Residence of Informant: Wm. Jno Keenan(?), present at death Military Hospital Clifton St. Registered: Sixth May 1918. I also found what I believe to be his parents marriage certificate. 20th January 1881, Daniel Doherty ( Bachelor) married Johanna Flynn (Spinster). Daniel was 29 years and was a Private in the 48th Regt. He resided Military Barracks, Tipperary. Johanna was 19 years and resided in Spittal, Tipperary. Daniels father John Doherty ( Hackler) was deceased. Johannas father Timothy Flynn ( Labourer) was also deceased. It was witnessed by John McManus Corpl 48th Regt and Mary (?) Fanning. Unfortunately, I still cannot find his birth certificate.I had ordered a number of certificates but as the place was closing the last one I did must have had the wrong reference on the photocopy request as it was for a different person!! At least now I have another place to look in Tipperary! Brian Magaoidh http://ulster.failteromhat.com/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good helps you make a difference

Sarah Shean 14-Sep-1867 At the residence of her late brother in law, Mr. John Baird, Church Street, Ballymena, on the 11th inst., Sarah, daughter of the late Mr. Alexander Shean, Roscrea, county Tipperary. Mary Sheane19-Nov-1664 At Ballymena, on the 13th inst., Mary, relict of the late Alexander Sheane, Roscrea, county Tipperary, aged 76 yrs. >From Coleraine Chronicles

Over a year ago, I learned that an archeological study was done of Ballymackeogh graveyard in Newport, Tipperary. The study was done by Dr. Pat Ryan. It was to be published last spring. I wonder if anyone is aware of this publication and can update me on its status. I am anxious to obtain a copy. I did learn that it would probably sell for 20 or 30 Euros. Judy Wendt searching McKeogh, Adams, Gleeson, Sullivan ************** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

11-1-1776 From the Freeman's Journal. Extract of a letter from Clonmel. Last Tuesday John Power of Tullemaine, Esq., and a troop of the Royal Irish Dragoons, commanded by Capt. Keily, conducted Pierce Nagle, one of the White Boys, from Fethard, and lodged him in our gaol, they then proceeded to Waterford, in quest of others, and arrived there that night, and on Thursday following returned and brought with them Thomas Meagher, of Feathard, Shoe Maker, who had fled to Waterford to evade being apprehended. Yesterday morning was committed to Gaol by Richard Moore, Esq. Peter Hackett, of Ballynagranna, near Carrick on Suir, charged on oath with feloniously and burglarious breaking open three doors of the dwelling house of James Fowley of Carrick-on-Suir on the night of the 27th September last, with 12 or 13 others, well mounted and well armed with guns and pistols, and when they entered said house, fired several shots, and by force and violence carried away Mary Fowley, daughter to the said James Fowley, against her inclination, with the intent to marry her or defile her. "Other charges of a similar nature lie against the said Hacket, particularly for having in the night of the 14th April last, in company with several other white boys in their uniforms, well armed with guns and pistols, broke open the door of the dwelling house of John Quinlan, at Crehannagh, in the County of Waterford, when they cruelly beat the said Quinlan, and his son, for refusing to give Mary Quinlan, his daughter, in marriage to Thomas Butler of Seskin, in the said County. "John Cradock, of Red-City, near Fethard, Richard Fitzgerald of Killenaul, Thomas Fogarty, Patrick McGrath, Thomas Moreen, John Meagher, Darby Meagher, James Walsh, James Kennedy, Laurence Tierney and John Power, have also been apprehended and committed to jail, charged on oath with being white-boys, and riotously and feloniously assembling as such, and the latter with having broken open the house of Ambrose Power, late of Barretstown, Esq. and aiding and assisting in murdering the said Ambrose Power, Esq., and also in carrying out of his house sundry fire arms and ammunition. As it now seems to be determined not to transport our felons to America, a correspondent recommends the erection of a large building, where they may be kept to hard labour, the severest punishment that can be inflicted on a thief. Besides their numbers will require it, for they will soon overflow the present prisons. Mary

BAPTISMS Timothy Ryan 16/04/1862 Parish: Dromcolliher, Co Limerick Roman Catholic Parents: Daniel Ryan, Elizabeth Sullivan Sponsors: Thos Stack, Maria Collins Timothy Ryan 28/01/1862 Parish: Ballybricken, Co Limerick Roman Catholic Address: Ludden Parents: Michael Ryan, Elizabeth Kirby Sponsors: McE Kirby, Ca Butler Timothy Ryan 11/02/1860 Parish: Knocklong, Co Limerick Roman Catholic Address: Grange Parents: Timothy Ryan, Catherine Small Sponsors: William Mulcahy, Alice Rawley Timothy Ryan 17/07/1860 Parish: Templederry, Co Tipperary Roman Catholic Parents: John Ryan, Margaret Brady Sponsors: Pat Hayes, Mary Hayes Timothy Ryan 29/06/1860 Parish: Ballinahinch, Co Tipperary Roman Catholic Address: Garraunbeg Parents: James Ryan, Bridget Teefy Sponsors: Timothy Teefy, Mary Teefy Timothy Ryan 02/12/1860 Parish: Kilcommon, Co Tipperary Roman Catholic Address: Foilavclug Parents: Daniel Ryan, Bridget Stapleton Sponsors: George Stapleton, Mary Ryan Timothy Ryan 04/02/1860 Parish: Youghalarra, Co Tipperary Roman Catholic Address: Burgess Parents: John Ryan, Margaret McGrath Sponsors: Patt Gleeson, Bridget Gleeson Timothy Ryan 23/03/1860 Parish: Kilcommon, Co Tipperary Roman Catholic Address: Foilduff Parents: Timothy Ryan, Johanna Cary Sponsors: Thomas Hayes, Julian Hayes Timothy Ryan 26/11/1861 Parish: Kilcommon, Co Tipperary Roman Catholic Address: Foilaclug Parents: Timothy Ryan, Johanna Ryan Sponsors: Patk Ryan, Hannah Moore Timothy Ryan 30/08/1861 Parish: Templederry, Co Tipperary Roman Catholic Parents: Andrew Ryan, Honora Brien Sponsors: Patrick Maher, Mary Brien MARRIAGE RECORDS I think the next record could be my gr, gr grandparents, but I haven's been able to find a birth yet for the son Timothy, so I don't really know. Husband: Timothy Ryan Wife: Honora Guidera 24/01/1856 Parish: Cournaganeen (Bourney) Roman Catholic Witnesses: John Landy, Johanna Guidera Husband: Patrick Costigan Wife: Johanna Guidera 03/03/1859 Parish: Cournaganeen (Bourney) Roman Catholic Witnesses: Michael Bohan, Johanna Guidera I hope these help someone. Best wishes Moira

For those who are interested in learning about this census and see the actual papes of it, check out a site I host for Ireland GenWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irltip/records.htm -- Pat Connors, visiting Rotonda West, FL

Hi: Thanks for replying to my e-mail. I know nothing more on Thomas Reddan only as a godparent, Daniel , as far as I have been able to tell never married. I believe he\ went to some gold field near Kyneton. He was a best man at a wedding for a John Hough and Mary Hough in Kyneton. Also a John Hough was the beneficiary of Daniel's Will. I think John Hough may have been a cousin, as that was Daniel's mother's maiden name. Hope this is of some help. John Reddan the other brother was my gr grandfather who came to California and married a Sophia Gallagher. Bev Enz

Hi Phil, I believe the number at the end of the barony applies to the number of male heads of families, number with each family unknown. Also unknown is the definition of a "family". Here is the bad news - Unless one's family is listed in Hart's Pedigrees, or somesuch, it is probably going to be impossible to trace a family back generation by generation UNLESS it goes back into England. Even then, the first one or two generations after the Cromwellian War in Ireland will probably be missing. One can enjoy the cites one finds throuhout history and know, at least, what some of the family did and were experiencing. As more and more comes on-line, our knowledge will grow. Do not ignore the spouses as I have learned much by tracing them back, and sometimes ...miracles happen. Janet On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Phil Buckley <pbuckley321@ca.rr.com> wrote: > Question 1: In Pender's census of 1659, at the end of each barony's > tabulation, is a list of the most frequently found surnames within the > barony. Does anyone know if the frequency numbers refer to number of > families or to number of persons? The difference could be significant. > Example: 21 families, or 21 persons divided among 3 families averaging 7 > people each. > > > > Question 2: Having traced my Buckley or "Boughilly" ancestors from the 1911 > and 1901 Irish census back in time through Griffith's valuation of 1850, the > Tithe Applotments of 1827, the Religious Census of 1766, and Pender's census > of 1659, where does one go to trace them even further back it time? Is it > possible? > > > > Phil Buckley, Bozeman, Montana > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bev, what do you have on Thomas Reddan, or Daniel? My paternal great-grandmother was a Reddan (Reddin, Redden, etc. ) She married a Philip Goodwin in New York City around 1900. Reddan is one of the name I am researching. Thanks Phil Beverly Enz <benz15@comcast.net> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Enz To: County Tipperary Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: Fw: Roll Call ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Enz To: County Tipperary Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: Roll Call I am looking for a marriage record for Daniel Reddan and Anne Hough, They lived in an area called "The Pike". Had four children baptized at Lorrha, Nenagh, Tipperary, Patrick April 23, 1830 GP James Hough and Judith Brophy Mary Dec 29 1831 Michael Hough and Meara. John Sept 4, 1833 William Hough and Sara Hough My gr grandfather Daniel Nov 4, 1836 Thomas Reddan and Margaret Hough John immigrated to USA and married a Sophia Gallagher Daniel immigrated to Australia and died there in 1873, Kyneton, Victoria Hope to hear from someone. Bev Enz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Phil Collins, in Western Massachusetts, U.S.A.

Benjamin England married Catherine Bannan in 1841 in Cournaganeen (Bourney). Catherine was from Aghsmear (Corbally Parish). Benjamin and Catherine had 3 daughters: Margaret, b.1842 in Bonagortbaun; Ellen b. 1844 in Bonagortbaun; and Catherine b. 1846 in Oldcastle. At the time of the 1861 UK census, Catherine and the 3 girls were living in Orpington, Kent. I do not know what happened to Benjamin. Did he die or were he and Catherine divorced? Any info on this family or ideas on where to look next for Benjamin will be greatly appreciated. Veronica

----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Enz To: County Tipperary Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: Fw: Roll Call ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Enz To: County Tipperary Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: Roll Call I am looking for a marriage record for Daniel Reddan and Anne Hough, They lived in an area called "The Pike". Had four children baptized at Lorrha, Nenagh, Tipperary, Patrick April 23, 1830 GP James Hough and Judith Brophy Mary Dec 29 1831 Michael Hough and Meara. John Sept 4, 1833 William Hough and Sara Hough My gr grandfather Daniel Nov 4, 1836 Thomas Reddan and Margaret Hough John immigrated to USA and married a Sophia Gallagher Daniel immigrated to Australia and died there in 1873, Kyneton, Victoria Hope to hear from someone. Bev Enz

I have some info on this family James Swan Kissock married Jessie McNeillie on the 9th Dec. 1841 At Urr, Kirk., Scotland. Jessie was the daughter of Alexander McNeillie and Ann King. Alexander was a doctor in the Royal Navy and served in Jamaica. James & Jessie had 5 children, Jessie, Marion, Ann, Alexander and Margaret prior to moving to Ireland. In Ireland they had 5 more Robert Swan, Ellen, Lillie, Jane and James Swan. In 1876 James inherited some money and land in Lochrutton Scotland so he moved back to Scotland. I believe at that time several of his children left for Canada. Jessie married John Menzies and had a daughter Jessie in 1878 in Canada. Jessie and her daughter moved back to Scotland and were living with her parents in 1881. Marion married Henry Dunnet in Canada and had one child in Canada before moving back to Scotland. Ann died 2 Oct 1875 in Toronto Canada, she was married to ??? King. Alexander returned to Scotland. Margaret married Patrick Finn and moved to Canada. They ran a hotel in Orillia Ont. Robert Swan returned to Scotland and is on the 1881 census living with his parents. Ellen returned to Scotland and married William Dickson, the son of one of the renters of the land James inherited. They came to Canada in 1882. Lillie returned to Scotland. She was still single in 1901 with one child. Jane returned to Scotland and married Andrew Henry. James Swan returned to Scotland then moved to Canada after 1881. He died in Orillia in 1888. Tom Dickson

Question 1: In Pender's census of 1659, at the end of each barony's tabulation, is a list of the most frequently found surnames within the barony. Does anyone know if the frequency numbers refer to number of families or to number of persons? The difference could be significant. Example: 21 families, or 21 persons divided among 3 families averaging 7 people each. Question 2: Having traced my Buckley or "Boughilly" ancestors from the 1911 and 1901 Irish census back in time through Griffith's valuation of 1850, the Tithe Applotments of 1827, the Religious Census of 1766, and Pender's census of 1659, where does one go to trace them even further back it time? Is it possible? Phil Buckley, Bozeman, Montana

Nice work as usual, Cara. Thanks. Janet On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Cara_Links <cracker@hotkey.net.au> wrote: > Richard Kyte of Cashel Co Tipperary appears in 1766 in the calendar of > Wills in teh Diocese of Cashel and Emly 1618-1800 ( not Enneclan CD either) > > And under the spelling of KITE I did find a Captain Kite married Anne > Osborne at Cork Nov 1771. > > And a John Kite ( Gent) 1736 Gurrane Co Kerry > > Is all I have Janet > But who knows where the pieces fit ? > > Cara > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Richard Kyte of Cashel Co Tipperary appears in 1766 in the calendar of Wills in teh Diocese of Cashel and Emly 1618-1800 ( not Enneclan CD either) And under the spelling of KITE I did find a Captain Kite married Anne Osborne at Cork Nov 1771. And a John Kite ( Gent) 1736 Gurrane Co Kerry Is all I have Janet But who knows where the pieces fit ? Cara