3-5-1871 All from the Freeman's Journal. Mr. Heron has given notice that he intends, on the motion for going into committee of supply, to call attention to the circumstances under which the Presbyterian congregation of Fethard, Co. Tipp., were evicted at the Clonmel Spring assizes, 1869 from their meeting house, built in 1739, on the Jacob estate, and under a lease for 999 years, at one shilling per annum, the same having been included by mistake in the Incumbered Estates conveyance under writs. The lands were sold in 1853 without any notice of the lease having been inserted in the rental; and to move that compensation ought to be given to the Presbyterian congregation for the deprivation of their meeting house. 30-1-1859 Breach of Promise of Marriage---In the Irish court of common pleas, on Tuesday, Mr. Armstrong, Q.C. moved, in the case of "Short V. Bentley" to change the venue from Nenagh to Limerick or Cork. It was an action brought by Mr. Richard Short, near Nenagh, as next friend of his daughter-an amiable and accomplished young lady of 18 years-against the defendant, Mr. Walter Bentley, an old gentleman of not less than 55 years of age, for an alleged breach of promise of marriage. The defence relied on was a mutual release of the promise. The affidavit stated that the plaintiff had great influence amongst the jurors in Tipperary as a popular resident gentleman of extensive connections, and that the contemplated marriage and the alleged breach of it had been the topic of tea table conversation for months past in every house in the County, from the Castle in Barnane to the humblest cottage--The application was refused with costs. The Trial 17-3-1859 At Nenagh assizes on Tuesday, a case came before Judge Hayes, in an action brought by the next friend of Jane Short against Walter Bentley. The plaintiff is the daughter of a gentleman farmer residing at Ballyvandrum Cottage, within three miles of Nenagh, and the family of Mr. Short consisted of his wife and five daughters, the eldest of them being Miss Jane Short, who is not yet of age, During the course of last year the plaintiff was at Lahinch, a watering place in the County of Clare, and there met the defendant, who is the brother of a merchant and grocer, in George's Street, Limerick, and himself of the mature age of upwards of fifty. He was the owner of small landed property at Broadford, under Sir Hugh Dillon Massy, and having been introduced to the plaintiff a mutual attachment sprung up between them. Mr. Bentley, as is usual upon such occasions, spoke to "Mamma" about the matter, and she wished to know what were Jane's wishes. These being in accordance with the aspirations of her lover, the defendant became an accepted suitor, and the wedding day was named by Mrs. Short. Mr. Bentley intimated that his family were opposed to the match, and that his brother when he heard of it, advertised to let the upper part of his house in Limerick, but he did not mind this, as he could take lodgings. Various letters were read which left no question of the contract, and in one of them Mr. Bentley declared that sooner would the Keeper mountain be removed to Broadford than his intentions be changed by any intention of his family. In one of the letters he wrote to this effect;- Limerick, Aug 19th 1858. My dearest Jane, Tell your mother that any arrangement she makes the middle of next week will satisfy me. I was out at Broadford on yesterday and told some of my friends about you and me, which was well that I did not tell him before. He blew out a great rate, and said what he would not do. I expect that will soon blow off, but no matter what they say, nothing will alter my love for you, and make your mind easy about it, you must be satisfied that I will do the best I can for you. Some one in Limerick told in Broadford on Sunday that I was with you on that day. If any letter should come to you, or your father or mother, send me a copy of it. I remain, My dearest Jane, Your fond and affectionate W. Bentley. However, after a time, the tone of his letters became colder and more formal, and he at length intimated that as his relatives were opposed to the marriage, he had not the means of carrying it out. His letter was couched in the following language;-- Mr. Dear Mr. Short, When first I spoke to Jane I thought to have a comfortable home, but you all know I could not accomplish that, as when my brother heard it you might see an advertisement to sell the house, and I did not put a foot inside it since. I thought to live as I always did, but my family would not agree to it. If I had known this in time I would have never spoken to Jane as I did. I know it must be very painful to all your feelings, but much more to mine. I am sure you would not have me bring Jane into misery, as I have no chance whatever of living in Limerick, which, I may say, was my whole dependence, and only thinking of that I never would have thought anything of the kind. But it is out of the question of me ever going back there again, as the small means I have would never support two people. I know I acted wrong, which I am very sorry for, but any reasonable person reading this statement, which is the truth, I think will not blame me. I remain, Mr. Short, Sincerely yours. Walter Bentley. This letter Mr. Short answered in the following terms, Mr. Rollestone characterising it as the production of a gentleman and a man of honour. My Dear Wat. Your letter this morning to Jane quite surprised us all, as we expected you on Wednesday next according to your letter of the 14th inst.,; and as matters have now gone so far it will be necessary for you to bring all your arrangements at once to a close. I depended altogether on your honour and good sense, consequently made no minute inquiry into your means, as I considered you a free agent and able to judge for yourself. The purport of your letter this morning is most unsatisfactory to me. You have so often made promises to Jane, and not carried them out, you seemed to make no allowance that a female must have her feelings on so serious a matter, and through your means has been the talk of the public. You say it is not your fault, you have others to contend with, but I say it is your fault. If you choose to be ruled by your family, that is no excuse to me. Before you took any step in the matter you should have borne in mind what arrangements you had to make, and not now. You have disturbed the peace of my family, and now, for the last time, I request you will bring your marriage to an end with Jane. Waiting to hear from you by return of post , to name the day you will come to do so, I remain, Yours Truly, Richard S. Short. The defendant, however, pleaded to this concluding letter that he was unable to marry, and the result was the institution of the present action. Mrs. Short, a very intelligent lady, proved the proposal of marriage, and that Mr. Bentley, when candidly told her daughter had no fortune, he replied he loved her for herself alone. It was also proved by Mr. Short that the defendant said he had a share in a grocery business in Limerick, and that the net property was 700/., a year, the sales of sugar alone in a month being 400/. Dr, Fritt, who was the medical adviser of Miss Short, attended her in December last, her health, which was previously good, being then affected, and she was pining away for a time. In the defence it was sought to be established that Mr. Bentley was an old bachelor, who had been tempted by the allurements of a watering place to make a proposal, thinking at the time that his family would be brought to agree to his wishes, that the Short family very naturally wished to effect a match where the young lady was portion less, and that he was encouraged to visit at Balyvandrum Cottage, that he only went there twice before the treaty was broken off, and that it displayed more honourable feelings for him to abstain from visiting the young lady than to gratify his sincere feelings by marrying her and involving her in comparative poverty. Mr. Boucher, the family attorney, and some connections of the defendant were examined on his behalf to show that they were adverse to the marriage, and that Mr. Walter Bentley had no interest in the shop in George's Street, and was only possessed of an income in land of 86/., per year. Baron Richards charged the jury, who after short deliberation, found for the plaintiff, with 450/, damages and 6d., costs. 23-12-1850 Rolls Court. Mr. W. Sidney, applied to the court on behalf of the Rev.V.L. Trenor, of Mealiffe, Co. Tipperary, that William Purcell, Esq., the receiver in this cause, be directed to pay to his client, the sum of £38. 7.0., being the amount of five and a half years tithe rent charge due to him out of the lands, in the pleadings in this cause mentioned. Counsel moved on the affidavit of Mr. Trenor, which stated that several applications had been made to Mr. Purcell for payment, and that Mr. Purcell had promised to pay the amount as soon as he had funds to enable him to do so. The affidavit also charged him with having received a sufficient sum to enable him to discharge Mr. Trevar's demand, which fact was not contradicted by Mr. Purcell. His honour directed that Mr. Purcell should pay Mr. Trenor the amount of his demand within ten days, together with the cost of the motion. 9-12-1889 Tipperary Town. Today the assistant Sub Sheriff, Robert Power, accompanied by bailiffs, protected by police under the control of Colonel Caddell, R.M. resumed evictions in the town.The first house attacked was the residence of Mr. William Prendergast, Cattle Dealer. No resistance was offered. There was some expressions of public feeling, but this was at once put a stop to by the Rev. Father Humphreys. The next house visited was that of Michael O'Connor. The tenant has his effects previously removed, and the sheriff had no difficulty in taking possession. Next Mr. Thomas Slattery was put out, and the Mr. Maurice Hayes was next evicted. This ended the sheriff's operations for the day.

Hi, I am trying to trace my family from Clonmel. William Nathaniel Keatinge m Elizabeth (?) both born Clonmel. They had a daughter Sarah b 1855 Henry b 1858 and Wm Hawkshaw Keatinge b 1853 St. Marys Parish Clonmel. Sarah m George Glasson while Wm H m Mary Hannah Norton, both marriages were in England. Cannot find any information on Henry marrying. Any one that might have any connection with this family I would love to hear from you. Regards Barbara

16-9-1886 From the Freeman's Journal. Evictions In Tipperary. Thurles, Wednesday. Early yesterday morning a cavalcade of 18 cars left here carrying police and bailiffs to carry out evictions. Their destination was a property situate in the Parish of Kilcommon-a wild mountainy district about 11 miles from here, and owned by Captain Armstrong. D.L.J.P., Mealiffe, Thurles, whose agent is Captain Saunders, Saunders Park, Charleville, County Cork, who, with his son was present to superintend the evictions. The police leaving Thurles were under the command of Mr. Gamble, D.J., but their force was further augmented when they arrived at the scene of the operations by a very large body under the command of Mr. Moore, D.I., Newport, the joint forces being in charge of Colonel the Hon.S.F. Carew, R.M. Mr. Quinn, Clonmel represented the Sheriff. It was no small surprise to the officers in charge when on arriving at their destination they found themselves confronted by more than one thousand persons headed by the Upperchurch Fife and Drum Band. The surprise was greater still to the parties representing the Landlord, who thought to sweep down on the people asleep and seize their cattle. This is what they would have desired, but for that object their movements were wrapped in mystery, but their intentions were frustrated. The people were on the qui vive, and had removed their cattle, etc., and as a result when the Captain and his Bailiffs came on the holdings of the persons "under sentence of death" not a four footed beast was to be found. The forces of the Crown proceeded to the house of a widow, Mrs Mary Spillane, who holds a large tract of land. She had made every preparation for the contingency. Her house had been emptied of its contents, and she told the Captain she was prepared for the law to take its course. The legal forms were complied with, but some persons interfering, and the agent thinking better of it, half a year's rent was accepted, (She owed three), and she was then reinstated in her holding. A move was next made to the house of another widow-Mrs Catherine Ryan-the mother of a young, helpless family, where a piteous and mournful spectacle was witnessed. In this case no settlement was effected, and the eviction was carried out in due form. The widow, knowing how few were her chances of success, clung to her home, thinking that even at the last moment some unforeseen event would prevent the carrying out of that which was to make her and her little ones homeless. She did not remove the furniture and house fittings, but when the bailiffs made their appearance they set with a will about removing them. In this, however, they were assisted by the spectators, who knew the rough handling the articles would get if they were left to the tender mercies of the Bailiffs, and in a short time the contents of the house were heaped by the roadside. Everything removed, and the fire quenched, possession was taken of it by two emergency men and two constables who were left to protect them, and on the roadside, close to her furniture, were the widow and her children, huddled together, viewing their once happy home. Thomas Ryan, of Cownbeg, was also evicted from a farm, but his house was on another property. This concluded the evictions for the day but I understand they will be resumed after some time.

The IGP Archives has moved. We now have our own domain. The new url is: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Please change your bookmarks. We have been holding off adding much because of the move, but we are picking up speed again. If you haven't visited in awhile - Mary Heaphy is transcribing Evicted Tenants funds (1882-83) to the Ireland-General Newspaper section. These are a mix of counties. They give the name of the evicted head of household, the location and landowner. Example from a Tipperary eviction below: John Noonan. Galbally, County Tipperary, evicted 25th of last Sept, by Miss Eliza Givens, of Holmsgrove, Tipperary. The search engine is new. You can limit by county using the drop down on the search box. Regards, Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/

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Henry Thos D'Arcy. of Kildearnon, Tipperary And Eliza Mary Ann Coane of St Geo., Dublin Married 07 Mar 1836, at Gretna Hall, Dumfries Co, Scotland. Alice Mary Condon of Tipperary And Henry Arthur Sleeman of Burdock, Cornwall. Married 26 Sep 1854, at Gretna Hall, Dumfries Co, Scotland Jn Landers of Wigton, C'land, or Ballintemple, Tipperary And Martha Wilson of Wigton, C'land married 03 Aug 1831, at Gretna Hall. Dumfries Co, Scotland. Michael M'Namara of Roscrea, Tipperary, And Jane Rain of Penrith, C'land married 11 Oct 1846, Gretna Hall, Dumfries Co, Scotland. Michael Campion of Nenagh, Tipperary And M'Cabe Mgt. of C. Carl Married 23 May 1840, at Gretna Hall, Dumfries Co, Scotland. Jeremiah Hodges Mulcahy of St Michael's, Limerick And Christina Emily Jackson of Roscrea, Tipperary Married 20 Apr 1853, at Gretna Hall, Dumfries Co, Scotland.

1-2-1849 Nenagh Guardian. State of Ireland. The Quarter Sessions for Tipperary which have continued for nearly six weeks, terminated yesterday Tuesday evening. The number of persons tried in the two ridings amounted to nearly one thousand. Thirty eight persons have been sentenced at Cashel and Nenagh to several periods of transportation. The number of prisoners in the Nenagh Gaol at the present moment exceeds seven hundred, and not withstanding its crowded state, it is clean and healthy. Assault and Robbery--On Saturday night three men, armed with pistols, entered the house of Edward Russell, a respectable farmer, residing near Roscrea, and demanded from him £20, the price of four pigs which he had sold that day in Rathdowney at the fair. Mrs Russell told the ruffians that all the money her husband had he gave to a neighbour named Tim Parr, whereupon Russell started from his seat, laid hold of a chair, and placed it against the chest of one of the fellows who was about seizing him, but at the same time he received a violent blow of a pistol on the head, which knocked him down and cut him severely. One of them then searched his pockets, in which he found only three pence, whilst the others, who were after administering an oath to Russell, as to whether he had any money, ransacked the house, and assaulted in an unmerciful manner Russell's wife and servant boy, who had offered them some resistance. Not having found any money, but the three pence, they decamped, very much displeased with the result of their nocturnal visit. On Sunday night, the house of a labourer named Thady Fogarty, of Glankeen, near Borrisoleigh, was forcibly entered by three men, one of whom was armed with a pistol and the others with sticks. One of the fellows immediately extinguished a rushlight and the fire, when another of them knocked down Fogarty with the blow of a stick. While prostrate, the pistol was discharged at him, but, fortunately, without taking effect, as the shot passed under his arm, without doing any injury. They then kicked him severely, but ultimately spared his life at the solicitation of his wife and daughter. This poor fellow's sole offence was working for a person who had taken land from which the former occupants were ejected for non payment of rent. 3-3-1848 Freeman's Journal. Record Court Wednesday, Before Lord Chief Justice Doherty. His Lordship opened the court at ten o'clock, and proceeded to try the criminal cases. Thomas Doyle was transported for ten years for stealing a horse and two bridles from James Hayes, at Killenaule, Co. Tipp. John Nugent was sentenced to be transported for seven years for appearing in arms at Lisdoon, assaulting the habitation of Patrick Larkin, and ordering him to leave his employment. Michael Flaherty was found guilty of stealing a gun from John White, of Clonamohan. Peter Hussy was found guilty of stealing two heifers from Philip Rourke, of Killoney. Not sentenced. Patrick Collins was sentenced to be transported for seven years for stealing a pig, the property of Mr. Sherlock, of Milltown. This is the man who at Birr quarter sessions, October 1841, had the sentence of death recorded against him for killing a goat. 6-7-1850 Nenagh Guardian. Intimidation-On the 30th ult, about two o'clock in the morning, five men to the house of Patrick Fogarty, a farmer residing in Glankeen, near Borrisoleigh. Two of the party were armed with pistols, two more with sticks, and the fifth with stones. They entered the dwelling by forcing open the door with a crowbar. Fogarty, on hearing the noise, jumped out of bed, and endeavoured to close the door, but the fellows threw it in about the floor, dragged Fogarty into the yard when devoid of covering, placed him on his knees, put a pistol to his throat, in his hand a prayer book, on which they swore him to give up land which he recently took, for which he had paid a fine of 20/., to a man named Dwyer. One of the fellows when going away struck Fogarty a severe blow of a stick on the shoulder, and another broke six panes of glass in Fogarty's dwelling house windows. 6-9-1849 Tipperary Vindicator. Sunday about five hundred men, with cars, etc, entered the lands held by the Widow Doyle, at Kilmikill, in the parish of Moyne, and cut and carried away thirteen acres of wheat, which had been auctioned on the preceding Saturday. The tenantry on these lands and the middleman, Counsellor Marnion, have not been on amicable terms for a long time. It will be remembered that for a murder on this property about 18 months ago, two men of the name of Connolly were executed. Monday the sub sheriff's deputy, accompanied by Sub Inspector Malone and a party of Police, proceeded to the lands of Ballydaff, in the Parish of Glankeen, and dispossessed six families, the tenants of Mr. O'Driscoll, Barrister-at-Law. The names of the persons evicted are:--- Patrick Bourke, wife and nine children. Martin Ryan, wife and one child. William Gleeson, wife and six children. Widow Doyle and three children. Widow Connell, and three children. Michael Burke, wife and six children. Mr. Driscoll, it is said arranged to let in Martin Ryan on securing him in three quarters rent out of two years rent due. John O'Neill, the principal in the abduction of Miss Cleary from her sister's house in Toomevara, for which his three accomplices were sentenced to two years imprisonment at last Nenagh's assizes, was arrested yesterday (Tuesday). He was escorted into Nenagh by Constable Wallace, and a party of the Kilkeary police. Thirty slugs were lodged in the body of a man employed by Mr. Mansergh, of Drangan, on Wednesday last, by a ruffian who fired at him near his door. The man yet lives, and the miscreant who attempted his death is unknown. 18-5-1835 From the Clonmel Herald. On Sunday night an attack was made on the house of a man named Hewet, at Mealiffe, two shots were fired into it, after which they went to the stable and killed two horses, when they departed they posted notices, stating that if he did not give up the ground which he had lately taken, they would give him the death of Mr. Going, and afterwards burn him and his family as the Sheas were. 18-10-1844 On the 9th inst., four armed men rushed into the house of Richard Pennefather, Esq. of Ballynira, near Mealiffe, about 11'30, and took away two valuable guns. Mrs Pennefather was confined to her room, which the ruffians attempted to force open, but was prevented by the assistance of a female servant, who ran before them into her mistress's room. Mr. Pennefather was away at the time, walking to Church with the clergyman's family, and of hearing of the outrage, mounted his horse and pursued the party without success. 21-11-1848 Thurles Guardians. In the union of Thurles the gentry appear to have come to a wise and provident resolution-rather to give employment than defray the cost of relief. Mr. Carden of Barnane, has intimated to the guardians that he has employment for 200 people in draining, etc. Mr. Ryan of Inch, will also give employment to a large number of men and women, and Mr. Trant, besides affording employment, is forgiving all arrears, and otherwise assisting those of this tenantry who wish to emigrate. If the gentry of the other poor-law unions throughout Ireland would imitate this example, we should not hear so much either of the oppressiveness of the poor-law or the misery of the people. 26-2-1833 Constable Woods, of Barnane station, succeeded in taking from a man of the name of Kennedy of Burrisafarney, a case of pistols, and a gun which had been ingeniously fixed behind the fire place in a log of wood. 26-4-1867 Thurles April 23rd--Four young men were arrested yesterday by the police in the neighbourhood of Drombane on a charge of being concerned in the late Fenian rising. During the past week upwards of 20 prisoners arrived here from the neighbourhood of Annfield and Drombane. Cashel April 23rd Today, Sub Constable Patrick Whelan and John McKay, of the Thomastown police station arrested a man named William Farrell, a farm Labourer, on a charge of being one of a party of armed men assembled on the 5th March, at Ballthurst, for the purpose of levying war against the Queen's authority in Ireland, and the establishment of a Republican therein.He was subsequently escorted to Cashel by the same constables, and remanded by the Hon. M.J. Ffrench on a charge of high treason.

Does Anyone have Joseph Franklin in their tree b:c1815 f.John m.Mary Ryan (parents both deceased by 1841) Joseph Marr.c1833 to Johanna Ryan b.c1815, parents Patrick and Bridget Ryan. from available details all these events occurred in Tipp.Co Tipp. I am not familiar with districts/parishes etc of Tipp.Any guide in tracking the families of the above would be appreciated,are there any online indexes for this area. Joseph and Johanna immigrated to Aust in 1842/3,they were both R.C. I would like to find some background on the parents. Thank you, Michael. in Oz. cotipperary@r

Assorted newspapers. 4-4-1835. In a case of arson on Thursday, tried at the Tipperary Assizes, the following cross examination took place;- How many sisters have you? Witness-I'll trouble you, Sir, to know-----(laughter) Well then, I'll tell you-you had five-now will you tell me where they went.? Witness-I'll trouble you, Sir, to know-----(laughter) Well then, I'll tell you--four of them were transported. Witness--Ah, the book of the County Charges will tell you whether or no. Where did you go yourself.? Witness-I'll trouble you, Sir, to know-----(laughter) Didn't you go to England.? Witness--I did. Was it to be out of the way of the sheep.? Witness-I'll trouble you, Sir, to know-----(laughter) Why did you go to England.? Witness---My Lord, to do the best I could. (Loud Laughter) And why did you come back.? Witness---My Lord, to do the best I could. (Roars of laughter.) 21-11-1835 At the Assizes of Clonmel this week, James Tully, was placed at the bar, charged with having stolen turf on the 16th August, at Newcastle, from Thomas Geary. The value of the turf was laid in the indictment at sixpence.!! The poor wretch, Tully, whose appearance bespoke the most abject poverty, had been in gaol for some time on this charge, his prosecutor was a policeman, who swore that the prisoner took 4 sods of turf. Tully was fined a farthing and discharged. 24-1-1823 Clonmel Advertiser. On Monday night, two fellows, with their faces blackened, entered the house of a man named Tobin, near Abbey Athassal, close to Golden, from whom they took a gun, the property of Mr. John Scully. A few nights back the house of Michael Bradshaw, in the Parish of Glankeen, was attacked and entered by two armed men, who robbed the said Bradshaw of 5/. They succeeded in entering the house of Dan Ryan, of Upperchurch, from which they plundered 2/s. On Sunday night last Mr. Carroll, Chief Constable, proceeded, on information, to the lands of Rossestown, where he succeeded in apprehending a man named Edward Gaber, for being concerned in the above transaction-who is now under examination at Thurles, before the chief Magistrate. Saturday night last a person on horseback left a notice, signed Captain Rock, at the house of Mr. Lambley, at Tubberaheena, near Clonmel, ordering him to reduce his rent, and discharge a workman from his employment, otherwise certain ruin would follow him. 25-9-1848 Tipp Free Press. Mr. Fogarty, jnr., son of Mr. Burke Fogarty, of Garryvenus, Ballycahill, and Mr. William Burke, of Pallas, have been arrested. We do not know the charges that have been preferred against these gentlemen. Borrisoleigh----On this morning three Blacksmiths, two of the name of McGrath, from the neighbourhood of Upperchurch, were brought into town by a party of police under the command of Mr. Malone, S.I., from some private information he received that they were connected with Pike-Making. Other parties it is said are looked after. 14-11-1851 Nenagh Guardian. On Saturday night last Michael Brophy, of Kilrush and James Cummins, of Dovea, both employed by Mr. John Trant, Esq., of Dovea, proceeded unarmed to a house on the lands of Ballinahow, where they arrested a notorious character named Carroll, who has for some time evaded the vigilance of the police, and who is charged with stealing a sheep, the property of their employer. They conveyed him to the nearest Police Station, to be dealt with according to law.

22-11-1769 Freeman's Journal. A few days ago Mary Booholy, Dennis Costnody, and Richard Fitzgerald, all of Fethard, in the County of Tipperary, read their Recantation from the errors of the Church of Rome, and embraced the Protestant Religion in the Parish Church of Killenaule. 24-3-1832 From the Clonmel Advertiser. Clonmel Court. Cody V. Fox and others. >From the great length of the proceedings in this case, which occupied the court throughout the whole of Saturday and Monday, up to a quarter past two o'clock yesterday, we are unable to enter on even a sketch of its complicated details, and can only state, briefly, that its object was to ascertain whether the plaintiff, James Cody (A poor Carpenter) was, as he represented himself to be, the nearest of kin and heir at law to the late Mr. Terence O'Donnell, of Sackville Street, Dublin, boot and shoe maker, (a native of Carrick-on-Suir), who died intestate and without issue in 1827, leaving a large property in cash, bank stock, and other personal effects, for which eleven other claimants (the defendants in this trial) have appeared. The case had been previously tried at the last Summer Assizes for this County, but upon a different issue, on which occasion nine of the present defendants were plaintiffs, and obtained a verdict against the then defendant, the present plaintiff. This verdict having been set aside by the Master of the Rolls, the case now came on under a new issue, reversing the relative position of the parties, and, after a trial which (already stated), lasted the greater part of three days, the jury brought in a verdict in favour of the plaintiff, Cody---thus establishing his claims to the large fortune in dispute, as the first cousin and heir at law of the deceased Terence O'Donnell, to the exclusion of all the defendants, who claimed to be related to the deceased in the degree of second cousins. 22-3-1861 From the Times. Record Court. Burnett V. Maher. This was an action for mesue rates, for over holding possession of a farm near Thurles, containing 94 acres. It appeared that the defendant had been tenant to the plaintiff from the month of August, 1859. Though he had been in occupation only one year, he had paid two and a half years rent, and had been served with a notice to quit that possession, under a habere, in November 1860, and Maher, the defendant was left in possession, as a caretaker, and continued as caretaker until December 1860, when he refused to give up possession, and this action was brought for the mesue rates, between the 11th December and the 1st of Feb. The jury found a verdict of one farthing damages for the Plaintiff. Sergeant Armstrong and Mr. Lover for the Plaintiff . Mr. William Ryan for the defendant. 5-12-1770 Freeman's Journal. About 7 O'Clock last Sunday night as William Cody, of Ballyrichard, near Carrick, and his daughter, were returning home from Carrick, they were way-laid by a party of fellows on horseback, who knocked the father of his horse, and forcibly carried off his daughter, but as they were passing through the village of Oning, the girl's cries alarmed some gentlemen who had spend the evening with the Rev.Mr. Lanigan, who with great humanity mounted their horses, pursued the villains about two miles up the mountains, rescued the girl from the hands of her ravishers, and secured one of them, named John Dalton, whom the gentlemen conducted to a Magistrate, to be dealt with according to his deserts. 15-9-1770 Freeman's Journal. On Thursday the 6th inst, a man was executed at Philipstown for murder, during the execution the Mob (which was very great) were remarkably quiet, but as soon as the execution was over, they stoned the hangman to death, and the body lay for two or three days under the gallows. This poor unfortunate creature was the person that hung Sheedy the Priest, which is supposed to be the reason for this outrage. 29-7-1861 Times. Assault. Nenagh, Tipperary The Queen V. Patrick Hough, Jeremiah Hough, Michael Darcy, John Darcy, and Malachi Hough. The prisoners were indicted for that they, on the 16th June last, at Ballyneavin, in this County, did inflict grevious bodily harm on one Patrick Walsh. It appeared that all the parties were at a dance on that day (Sunday) when the prisoners beat the prosecutor with a loaded butt of a whip, struck him with stones, and kicked him, whereby he was severely injured. On cross examination it appeared that the prosecutor had knocked down on of the prisoners some days before, and had given some great provocation. The jury found the prisoners guilty of a common assault. The Queen V. the same prisoners. This was an assault on the last prosecutor's brother. Found guilty of causing grevious bodily harm. 17-8-1769 Freeman's Journal. Marriage at Rahealty, Thurles, Co. Tipp between Mr. Pierce Byrne, of Ballyshellan, to Miss Kitty Kennedy. 16-8-1862 From the Times. The Bansha Poisoning case. The woman, Ellen O'Donnell, who, as stated in a previous number of the Irish Times, was arrested on charge of having administered poison to her aged mother, Catherine Doran, at Cappauniacke, Bansha, on June last, has been discharged by Mr. P.C. Howley.R.M. 22-3-1861 From the Times. Richard Maher, John Bergin, Martin Bergin, and John Maher, were indicted for a grevious assault on Timothy Walshe; D. Maher for a like offence on Laurence Walsh, and Patrick Bergin and Denis Maher Snr., for a like offence upon William Bergin, Timothy Walshe and Malachi Fogarty for a like offence on John Maher, William Bergin for an assault on Daniel Maher, and William Quinlan for an assault. The prisoners had a faction fight in Roscrea, on the 28th of Jan. last when going to a funeral. Mr. W. Ryan defended some of the prisoners, and Mr. Edward Johnstone the rest of them. Mr. Ryan and Mr. Johnstone each addressed his Lordship, and remarking that as this fight had arisen without any premeditation, they thought that the ends of justice would be fully satisfied by the prisoners pleading guilty. Accordingly the pleaded guilty. They were bound over in their own recognizances to keep the peace for six months. John Kennanney was indicted for an assault upon Daniel Ryan, endangering his life, also for a grevious assault. The prosecutor's wife swore that she was coming after her husband from Templemore, and saw the prisoner striking her husbands head with a stone, that she endeavoured to take the stone out of the prisoner's hand but was unable to do so. Other witnesses were produced, who proved that they saw the prosecutor lying on the ground, and the prisoner giving him a kick. It was suggested for the prisoner that the prosecutor had fallen on the road, and thereby sustained the injuries which he had received. Dr. Pinchin, of Templemore, proved that the prosecutor's injuries were very serious, and that, at the time he first saw him, he (Dr. Pinchin) thought the prosecutor's life was in danger. The jury convicted the prisoner of an assault inflicting grevious bodily harm. 19-1-1797 Freeman's Journal. In the matter of Richard Elliott, Esq. a lunatick. Pursuant to an order made in this case, bearing the date of the 31st Dec. last whereby it was referred to me in the absence or illness of William Henn, esq., I will on Wed. the 8th day of Feb. next, at two o'clock in the afternoon, at the Chancery Chamber of the Four Courts on the Inns Quay, proceed to set to the highest bidder, the House and Demense Lands of Southlodge in the County of Tipperary, being the estate of the said lunatick, containing 180 acres, for the term of three years. Dated this day, the 10th of Jan. 1797. Edward Westby. Further particulars available from George Shaw, Attorney, Peter Street, Dublin. 16-8-1862 Times. At the last Fethard Petty Sessions a man named Denis Maher, was returned for trial for having in his possession, within a proclaimed district, a quantity of powder, for which he had no licence. It seems that an outrage was committed at the residence of a farmer named Moynan, living at Lismoynon, by some persons, who fired several shots, dug a grave in a field opposite to the house, and placed a threatening notice on the hall door. The powder was found on the dresser in Maher's house, who is supposed to be one of the party implicated in the attack referred to. A similar charge was preferred against a person of the name of Fitzgerald, for having some shot and arms in his possession, contrary to the provisions of the 12th section of the Crime and Outrage Act, 11th and 12th Vic., which case was also send for trial at the ensuing quarter sessions.

Mary, You are a treasure! How do you ever find these very obscure news reports? They are absolutely fascinating. In today's batch, you included a very important (for me) report from 1770 on a hangman being stoned to death after an execution, with the explanation that the crowd had been motivated to kill this man because he had been the executioner for "Sheedy the Priest". The reference is actually to the executioner of Father Nicholas Sheehy, who was executed with my ancestor Ned Meehan in 1766. There had been stories that vengeance reached many of those responsible for the judicial murders, but this is documentation. Thank you! Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <tipwex@eircom.net> To: "Tipperary" <cotipperary@rootsweb.com>; "Tipperary IRL" <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:52 AM Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Assorted Newspaper Reports. > 22-11-1769 Freeman's Journal. > > A few days ago Mary Booholy, Dennis Costnody, and Richard Fitzgerald, all > of > Fethard, in the County of Tipperary, read their Recantation from the > errors > of the Church of Rome, and embraced the Protestant Religion in the Parish > Church of Killenaule. > > > > 24-3-1832 From the Clonmel Advertiser. > > Clonmel Court. > > Cody V. Fox and others. > >>From the great length of the proceedings in this case, which occupied the > court throughout the whole of Saturday and Monday, up to a quarter past > two > o'clock yesterday, we are unable to enter on even a sketch of its > complicated details, and can only state, briefly, that its object was to > ascertain whether the plaintiff, James Cody (A poor Carpenter) was, as he > represented himself to be, the nearest of kin and heir at law to the late > Mr. Terence O'Donnell, of Sackville Street, Dublin, boot and shoe maker, > (a > native of Carrick-on-Suir), who died intestate and without issue in 1827, > leaving a large property in cash, bank stock, and other personal effects, > for which eleven other claimants (the defendants in this trial) have > appeared. The case had been previously tried at the last Summer Assizes > for > this County, but upon a different issue, on which occasion nine of the > present defendants were plaintiffs, and obtained a verdict against the > then > defendant, the present plaintiff. This verdict having been set aside by > the > Master of the Rolls, the case now came on under a new issue, reversing the > relative position of the parties, and, after a trial which (already > stated), > lasted the greater part of three days, the jury brought in a verdict in > favour of the plaintiff, Cody---thus establishing his claims to the large > fortune in dispute, as the first cousin and heir at law of the deceased > Terence O'Donnell, to the exclusion of all the defendants, who claimed to > be > related to the deceased in the degree of second cousins. > > > > 22-3-1861 From the Times. > > Record Court. > > Burnett V. Maher. > > This was an action for mesue rates, for over holding possession of a farm > near Thurles, containing 94 acres. It appeared that the defendant had been > tenant to the plaintiff from the month of August, 1859. Though he had been > in occupation only one year, he had paid two and a half years rent, and > had > been served with a notice to quit that possession, under a habere, in > November 1860, and Maher, the defendant was left in possession, as a > caretaker, and continued as caretaker until December 1860, when he refused > to give up possession, and this action was brought for the mesue rates, > between the 11th December and the 1st of Feb. The jury found a verdict of > one farthing damages for the Plaintiff. > > Sergeant Armstrong and Mr. Lover for the Plaintiff . > > Mr. William Ryan for the defendant. > > > > 5-12-1770 Freeman's Journal. > > About 7 O'Clock last Sunday night as William Cody, of Ballyrichard, near > Carrick, and his daughter, were returning home from Carrick, they were > way-laid by a party of fellows on horseback, who knocked the father of his > horse, and forcibly carried off his daughter, but as they were passing > through the village of Oning, the girl's cries alarmed some gentlemen who > had spend the evening with the Rev.Mr. Lanigan, who with great humanity > mounted their horses, pursued the villains about two miles up the > mountains, > rescued the girl from the hands of her ravishers, and secured one of them, > named John Dalton, whom the gentlemen conducted to a Magistrate, to be > dealt > with according to his deserts. > > > > 15-9-1770 Freeman's Journal. > > On Thursday the 6th inst, a man was executed at Philipstown for murder, > during the execution the Mob (which was very great) were remarkably quiet, > but as soon as the execution was over, they stoned the hangman to death, > and > the body lay for two or three days under the gallows. This poor > unfortunate > creature was the person that hung Sheedy the Priest, which is supposed to > be > the reason for this outrage. > > > > 29-7-1861 Times. > > Assault. Nenagh, Tipperary > > The Queen V. Patrick Hough, Jeremiah Hough, Michael Darcy, John Darcy, and > Malachi Hough. > > The prisoners were indicted for that they, on the 16th June last, at > Ballyneavin, in this County, did inflict grevious bodily harm on one > Patrick > Walsh. > > It appeared that all the parties were at a dance on that day (Sunday) when > the prisoners beat the prosecutor with a loaded butt of a whip, struck him > with stones, and kicked him, whereby he was severely injured. > > On cross examination it appeared that the prosecutor had knocked down on > of > the prisoners some days before, and had given some great provocation. > > The jury found the prisoners guilty of a common assault. > > The Queen V. the same prisoners. > > This was an assault on the last prosecutor's brother. > > Found guilty of causing grevious bodily harm. > > > > 17-8-1769 Freeman's Journal. > > Marriage at Rahealty, Thurles, Co. Tipp between Mr. Pierce Byrne, of > Ballyshellan, to Miss Kitty Kennedy. > > 16-8-1862 From the Times. > > The Bansha Poisoning case. > > The woman, Ellen O'Donnell, who, as stated in a previous number of the > Irish > Times, was arrested on charge of having administered poison to her aged > mother, Catherine Doran, at Cappauniacke, Bansha, on June last, has been > discharged by Mr. P.C. Howley.R.M. > > 22-3-1861 From the Times. > > Richard Maher, John Bergin, Martin Bergin, and John Maher, were indicted > for > a grevious assault on Timothy Walshe; D. Maher for a like offence on > Laurence Walsh, and Patrick Bergin and Denis Maher Snr., for a like > offence > upon William Bergin, Timothy Walshe and Malachi Fogarty for a like offence > on John Maher, William Bergin for an assault on Daniel Maher, and William > Quinlan for an assault. The prisoners had a faction fight in Roscrea, on > the > 28th of Jan. last when going to a funeral. Mr. W. Ryan defended some of > the > prisoners, and Mr. Edward Johnstone the rest of them. Mr. Ryan and Mr. > Johnstone each addressed his Lordship, and remarking that as this fight > had > arisen without any premeditation, they thought that the ends of justice > would be fully satisfied by the prisoners pleading guilty. > > Accordingly the pleaded guilty. > > They were bound over in their own recognizances to keep the peace for six > months. > > John Kennanney was indicted for an assault upon Daniel Ryan, endangering > his > life, also for a grevious assault. The prosecutor's wife swore that she > was > coming after her husband from Templemore, and saw the prisoner striking > her > husbands head with a stone, that she endeavoured to take the stone out of > the prisoner's hand but was unable to do so. Other witnesses were > produced, > who proved that they saw the prosecutor lying on the ground, and the > prisoner giving him a kick. It was suggested for the prisoner that the > prosecutor had fallen on the road, and thereby sustained the injuries > which > he had received. > > Dr. Pinchin, of Templemore, proved that the prosecutor's injuries were > very > serious, and that, at the time he first saw him, he (Dr. Pinchin) thought > the prosecutor's life was in danger. The jury convicted the prisoner of an > assault inflicting grevious bodily harm. > > > > 19-1-1797 Freeman's Journal. > > In the matter of Richard Elliott, Esq. a lunatick. > > Pursuant to an order made in this case, bearing the date of the 31st Dec. > last whereby it was referred to me in the absence or illness of William > Henn, esq., I will on Wed. the 8th day of Feb. next, at two o'clock in the > afternoon, at the Chancery Chamber of the Four Courts on the Inns Quay, > proceed to set to the highest bidder, the House and Demense Lands of > Southlodge in the County of Tipperary, being the estate of the said > lunatick, containing 180 acres, for the term of three years. Dated this > day, > the 10th of Jan. 1797. > > Edward Westby. Further particulars available from George Shaw, Attorney, > Peter Street, Dublin. > > > > 16-8-1862 Times. > > At the last Fethard Petty Sessions a man named Denis Maher, was returned > for > trial for having in his possession, within a proclaimed district, a > quantity > of powder, for which he had no licence. It seems that an outrage was > committed at the residence of a farmer named Moynan, living at Lismoynon, > by > some persons, who fired several shots, dug a grave in a field opposite to > the house, and placed a threatening notice on the hall door. The powder > was > found on the dresser in Maher's house, who is supposed to be one of the > party implicated in the attack referred to. A similar charge was preferred > against a person of the name of Fitzgerald, for having some shot and arms > in > his possession, contrary to the provisions of the 12th section of the > Crime > and Outrage Act, 11th and 12th Vic., which case was also send for trial at > the ensuing quarter sessions. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My deceased aunt visited Ireland in 1989 and apparently obtained her mother's (and aunt's) birth record and her grandparents marriage record. She also had a copy of the 1901 and 1911 Irish census. There's a stamp on the certificates that reads: Office of Supertintendent, Registrar of Births Deaths and Marriages, 26 July 1989, For Tipperary S.R. County Clonmel. My aunt's family was from Mullinahone, Tipperary, Ireland. Information on 1867 marriage record: Place of marriage, date of marriage, bride and grooms names, their ages, their condition (bachelor/spinster) his occupation, their fathers' names and their fathers' occupations, the witnesses. Information on 1871 birth record: Place of birth, date of birth, child's name, sex, name surname and dwelling of father; name surname maiden name of mother; father's occupation, signature of informant, when registered. 1901 Census of Ireland (Sunday, 31 March 1901) Form A: Lists family members, visitors Name and surname, relation to head of family, religious profession, education, age, sex, rank profession or occupation, marriage, where born 1901 Census of Ireland (Sunday, 31 March 1901) Form B: House and Building Form B gives a description of the dwellings on the street where my ancestors lived. This form only lists Head of Household (there are 17 Heads of Household on my form). It shows private dwellings as well as a public house, meat store, and shoemaker shop, etc. It has a numeric code for the type of dwelling - for example: No 1 - the house was made of stone, brick or concrete. No 2 - the house was made of wood or mud. For instance, I know that my ancestor lived in a private dwelling, made of stone, brick or concrete, the roof was made from slate, iron, or tile, it 2, 3, or 4 rooms, it had only one family living in the house, it had 3 rooms occupied by the family, and the form was filled out on April 1. Well, I hope this information is helpful to someone. Kat - NJ - USA

Catherine DUDLEY b 1814 Tipperary d 7 Jul 1901 Mount Hermon Cemetery Sillery, Quebec Canada

Patty, You won't escape that easily. The MacGregors were from the Belfast-Antrim area, some were in Dublin and apparently a few in Cork. This surname has the distinction of being the only Scottish clan to have their surname abolished by an Act of Parliament, and I don't know the details nor what name they chose in place of it. Good luck with that one! Janet On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Patty Napier <yankee67@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Thank you, Janet. My family - Godsell - is from Tipperary S.R. and I had no idea where the McGregor family might have come from. I was married to a McGregor for 18 years and we had two children together, so when I noticed I had a McGregor in my maternal side of the family, we wondered where that McGregor came from. My ex (who is deceased now) knew his family came from Scotland as he had a great aunt or someone who had traced their family back to Scotland many years ago. Of course they could have come through Ireland, too. I do appreciate your help so much. It will keep me from beating my brains out. Thank you so much! > > Patty in Oklahoma USA > > Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > Patty, I can't find any reference to McGregor being a variation of > Meagher/Maher. The MacGregor's came from the North of Ireland and the > Maher's from the South. > > Janet > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Patty Napier wrote: > > In the past, I have read various items online in which the name "Meagher" is also referred to as "McGregor." Does anyone know if "Meagher" is also meant to be "McGregor"? This has been very confusing to me. I know names change in spelling and pronunciation over the years. Since I have a McGregor in my Godsell line, I wonder if I should also use "Meagher" in my research. > > > > Patty in Oklahoma, USA > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My wife has a line of MacGregors. When the name changed, her line made it Gragg. They went back to MacGregor after several generations. ________________________________ From: cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Janet Crawford Sent: Mon 4/14/2008 10:24 AM To: cotipperary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Meagher Surname Patty, You won't escape that easily. The MacGregors were from the Belfast-Antrim area, some were in Dublin and apparently a few in Cork. This surname has the distinction of being the only Scottish clan to have their surname abolished by an Act of Parliament, and I don't know the details nor what name they chose in place of it. Good luck with that one! Janet On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Patty Napier <yankee67@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Thank you, Janet. My family - Godsell - is from Tipperary S.R. and I had no idea where the McGregor family might have come from. I was married to a McGregor for 18 years and we had two children together, so when I noticed I had a McGregor in my maternal side of the family, we wondered where that McGregor came from. My ex (who is deceased now) knew his family came from Scotland as he had a great aunt or someone who had traced their family back to Scotland many years ago. Of course they could have come through Ireland, too. I do appreciate your help so much. It will keep me from beating my brains out. Thank you so much! > > Patty in Oklahoma USA > > Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > Patty, I can't find any reference to McGregor being a variation of > Meagher/Maher. The MacGregor's came from the North of Ireland and the > Maher's from the South. > > Janet > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Patty Napier wrote: > > In the past, I have read various items online in which the name "Meagher" is also referred to as "McGregor." Does anyone know if "Meagher" is also meant to be "McGregor"? This has been very confusing to me. I know names change in spelling and pronunciation over the years. Since I have a McGregor in my Godsell line, I wonder if I should also use "Meagher" in my research. > > > > Patty in Oklahoma, USA > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This communication and any attachments contain private, confidential, privileged and/or proprietary information intended solely for the Recipient (s) named above. If you are not the intended Recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. If received in error, we apologize and ask that you please notify the Sender by returning this e-mail and permanently deleting this communication from your computer, including destruction of any printed copies. Any views expressed herein are not necessarily those of the Company represented by this e-mail source. No contracts, agreements or legally binding understandings may be entered into solely by an e-mail communication.

Patty, I can't find any reference to McGregor being a variation of Meagher/Maher. The MacGregor's came from the North of Ireland and the Maher's from the South. Janet On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Patty Napier <yankee67@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > In the past, I have read various items online in which the name "Meagher" is also referred to as "McGregor." Does anyone know if "Meagher" is also meant to be "McGregor"? This has been very confusing to me. I know names change in spelling and pronunciation over the years. Since I have a McGregor in my Godsell line, I wonder if I should also use "Meagher" in my research. > > Patty in Oklahoma, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, Janet. My family - Godsell - is from Tipperary S.R. and I had no idea where the McGregor family might have come from. I was married to a McGregor for 18 years and we had two children together, so when I noticed I had a McGregor in my maternal side of the family, we wondered where that McGregor came from. My ex (who is deceased now) knew his family came from Scotland as he had a great aunt or someone who had traced their family back to Scotland many years ago. Of course they could have come through Ireland, too. I do appreciate your help so much. It will keep me from beating my brains out. Thank you so much! Patty in Oklahoma USA Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: Patty, I can't find any reference to McGregor being a variation of Meagher/Maher. The MacGregor's came from the North of Ireland and the Maher's from the South. Janet On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Patty Napier wrote: > In the past, I have read various items online in which the name "Meagher" is also referred to as "McGregor." Does anyone know if "Meagher" is also meant to be "McGregor"? This has been very confusing to me. I know names change in spelling and pronunciation over the years. Since I have a McGregor in my Godsell line, I wonder if I should also use "Meagher" in my research. > > Patty in Oklahoma, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the past, I have read various items online in which the name "Meagher" is also referred to as "McGregor." Does anyone know if "Meagher" is also meant to be "McGregor"? This has been very confusing to me. I know names change in spelling and pronunciation over the years. Since I have a McGregor in my Godsell line, I wonder if I should also use "Meagher" in my research. Patty in Oklahoma, USA

Freeman's Journal. 2-12-1769 On Sunday the 19th November last, James Corcoran and Thomas Fogarty, read their recantations from the errors of the Church of Rome, and embraced the Protestant religion, in the Parish Church in Killenaule. 15-12-1775 Extract of a letter from Clonmel, Dec. 4th.1775. In the evening a number of principal inhabitants of the neighbourhood of Fethard, brought to our County Gaol, the following notorious Whiteboys, who were apprehended last Saturday, viz, Maurice Hayes and John Hayes, who lived on the ground of Wray Palliser, esq., at Derryluskan, John Connor and John Markly, both of the neighbourhood of Fethard. We are informed that they are positively sworn to, as being some of the villains who broke into the house of Ambrose Power, Esq. on the morning of the 27th ult, whom they most inhumanly murdered. Also apprehended by the Gentlemen of Cashel, Fethard, and neighbourhood, was one Walsh, a most daring and desperate robber, who was wounded in the leg before he was taken. One of Mr. Power's servants has given informations against many others, who were concerned in the most barbarous murder. 28-8-1777 The following letter was send to Sir John Fielding, Magistrate. Cashel, Co. Tipperary, August 18th 1777. We beg leave to inform you of a most violent outrage committed on the person of Miss Mary Max, a Heiress, entitled to a very large furtune, who was on Thursday night, the 7th of this month, forcibly carried off against her consent, by Samuel Phillips, of Foyle, in the County of Kilkenny, assisted by Richard Phillips, his father, who is a Magistrate of the said County of Kilkenny, assisted by William Phillips, Frances Phillips (Daughter to the said Richard), Edmond Leonard, of the City of Kilkenny, Gent, Denis Meagher, and several other persons unknown. This young lady is but 13 years of age, and we find that they sailed on the night of the 14th inst., from Passage, in the County of Waterford, in a brig, commanded by one Hearn, who had taken in Ballast for Swansea, or Milford. We shall pay the sum of 50/. (who are the Guardians and Trustees of the young lady's person and fortune) for apprehending the said Samuel Phillips ; and for Richard Phillips, the father, the further sum of 500/. 25-9-1777 Yesterday Messrs Heley and Prothero, two of Sir John Fielding's men, arrived in town from Dublin, having safely delivered to the keeper of Newgate the body of Daniel Meagher, Esq, in the County of Tipperary, indicted for carrying away Miss Max some time ago, violently and against her will and consent, being but 13 years of age. Mr. Meagher was concerned with four or five more persons, people of reputation in Ireland, who have now got Miss Max in France, and the latter will be secured there (though the parties cannot) by the interference of Sir John Fielding with the secretaries of State for France and England, and restored to her parents. Three hundred pounds was offered as a reward for Meagher, and on his being safely lodged, it was directly paid.

I came across some transcription errors in the Killenaule records that could be giving someone fits. I do not have a marriage, but it is a relationship between Thomas Quigley and Johanna/Ellen Cooney. In 1751, Thomas Quigley and JOHANNA Cooney have Edmund In 1754, Thomas and ELLEN GOONTY have Catherine In 1757 Thomas and Elin GOONY have Mary I think those all should be Cooney. I suspect Ellen and Johanna are the same woman, but maybe not. Now it gets even trickier. In 1750 Thomas and unknown have John. This could be Johanna/Ellen Cooney again, however In 175?, Thomas and Ann Keating have Mary, and, In 1756 Thomas and Ann Keating have Michael, so John could also belong to this relationship. No marriage record for this relationship available either. Good luck!