Congratulations, New Zealand - rugby World Cup winners!! Janet

Normally I would never recommend a pay site or allow them to advertise here, But this one appears to have added all the prisoner records and thus becomes very important to a lot of people. If nothing else, you now will know that the National Archives has all these records: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Linda Bara <[email protected]> Date: Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:13 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Irish Prisoner Registry from 1790 - 1920 To: [email protected] Just wanted to let you know that the Irish Prisoner Registry from 1790 - 1920 has just been launched at http://www.findmypast.ie "The original Prison Registers, held at the National Archives of Ireland, cover all types of custodial institutions, from bridewells, to county prisons, to sanatoriums for alcoholics. They contain over 3.5 million entries, spread over 130,000 pages, with most records giving comprehensive details of the prisoner, including: name, address, place of birth, occupation, religion, education, age, physical description, name and address of next of kin, crime committed, sentence, dates of committal and release/decease." **

Sounds like the thieves have taken lessons for ye olde Vikings. A product like that cannot be sold on the open market as only a rich collector could own this without being caught. don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Crawford" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:31:03 PM Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Off-topic: Holy Cross robbery The thieves have struck at Holy Cross monastery and taken the gold cross with the alleged piece of the true cross in it, and also a silver cross. Janet Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The thieves have struck at Holy Cross monastery and taken the gold cross with the alleged piece of the true cross in it, and also a silver cross. Janet

Hi all, It seems as though we might get the RC records as that is what shows here: http://waterford.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=sources.tpl&selectedMenu=sources However, it doesn't show the C of I record dates nor the Civil Records as being available. I guess we ought to look again in a few days. Janet

thank you, sean jim On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Sean Keane <[email protected]> wrote: > Jim, try the area/s outside of Tipp town. My Dad was from Bansha and often > spoke of Gormans in the area. > Good luck, > Sean > ******************************************* > > > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying and > check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual > message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject > will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have photographs of both of those crosses. Carmen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Crawford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:31 PM Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Off-topic: Holy Cross robbery > The thieves have struck at Holy Cross monastery and taken the gold > cross with the alleged piece of the true cross in it, and also a > silver cross. > > Janet > > > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying and > check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an > individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and > the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

that is wonderful. it seems that they will be posting the marriages also but they are not up yet. jim On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Janet Crawford <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, It seems as though we might get the RC records as that is what > shows here: > > > http://waterford.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=sources.tpl&selectedMenu=sources > > However, it doesn't show the C of I record dates nor the Civil Records > as being available. I guess we ought to look again in a few days. > > Janet > > > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying and > check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual > message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject > will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jim, try the area/s outside of Tipp town. My Dad was from Bansha and often spoke of Gormans in the area. Good luck, Sean *******************************************

During a recent visit to Middleport, NY York I observed the headstone for Dennis Lahey, born County Tipperary, Jan 24, 1832 and his wife, Johanna, born County Limerick, March 13, 1837. Pictures are available.

Received an e-mail from IFHF saying the Waterford BAPTISMAL records are now live: Co. Waterford Church Baptismal Records Now Available The Irish Family History Foundation's Online Research Service (ORS) are pleased to announce the availability of an additional 535,000 church baptismal records from the Waterford Genealogy Centre for Roman Catholic parishes in Co. Waterford. Just go to the following site and login using your existing IFHF login details. http://waterford.rootsireland.ie We now have nearly 19 million records online. Remember that you can purchase and spend your credit at any of the IFHF online centres. Please check out our interactive map to see which centres are currently live. If you have any questions or comments please check our Online Help and if this does not provide an answer, then do not hesitate to contact us or one or the county centres. Yours sincerely IFHF There is no word yet on the marriage records for Waterford. I still have to see if the sources page is live or not to see what is covered, i.e. any RC records. Janet

Wellsboro Gazette, 19 May 1927  (Pennsylvania) Death of Mrs O'Donnell, Aged Morris Run Lady The funeral of Mrs Maria O'Donnell, who died at the family home in Morris Run last Thursday evening, was held at 2:30 o'clock Sunday Afternoon from St Joseph's Catholic church in that place.  Rev J B Leonard officiating, burial was made in St Andrew's cemetery, Blossburg, beside her late husband P E O'Donnell. Hon F R Smith, T V Keefe, J F Keefe, Dr L G Cole and Dr John Riley. of Vlossburg and J F Eberle, of Westfield acted as pall bearers. Mrs O'Donnell was born in Clogheen, County Tipperary, Ireland about 83 years ago and came to this country as a young woman.  For more than 60 years she has been a resident of Morris Run, where her husband was engaged as Paymaster for the mining company.  At his death several years ago, new coal fields wee opened up and operated by his sons. Mrs O'Donnell held the esteem of friends throughout the entire State. She is survived by three sons, John, William F and Robert; two daughters, Mary and Catherine of Morris Run' also one brother, William Fitzpatrick of San Francisco California.

You might want to also check out the tithe applotments for Kilsheelan and other parishes here: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/tipp/KilsheelanTithes.htm These will take you back another generation from the Griffith's Valuation. Here is an more extensive list of what I know about my family from > Kilsheelan. > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Pat Connors has the Kilsheelan Tithes here and you have a Gorman[d]: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/tipp/KilsheelanTithes.htm Janet On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:57 PM, James Gorman <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Here is an more extensive list of what I know about my family from > Kilsheelan. > > *Arthur & Maria (Stack) Gorman* (only seen these names once but have no > confirmation) > >   - *James Gorman* (b: abt 1815 in Ireland, d: abt 1890 in USA) married *Mary >   Dee* in Ireland the immigrated to USA in about 1854 >   - *William Gorman*  (b: jun 8 1853 in Kilsheelan, Waterford d: in USA) >      his godparents: *Patrick Shea & Catherine Hickey* >      - Patrick Gorman (b: aug 1855 in Pawtucket, RI, USA) his > godparents: *William >      Lonnergan* and *Catherine Connors* >      - *William Gorman* (b: about 1825 in Ireland, d: abt 1890 in USA) >   married *Catherine Connors* in 1857 Pawtucket, RI. USA > > I have not listed all their children as the majority of them were born in > the USA.  But the names in bold are all from Ireland or never left Ireland > and I presume were from the general area of Kilsheelan parish.  It would be > wonderful to hear is anyone has any further information about these people. > > Thank you, > > > Jim Gorman > > > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There were 2 Gorman's in Kilsheelan listed in Griffith's - Patrick & Thomas. http://tinyurl.com/3uvz89k You can look by townland in Kilsheelan parish for your other names: http://tinyurl.com/3dae2cy Janet On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:57 PM, James Gorman <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Here is an more extensive list of what I know about my family from > Kilsheelan. > > *Arthur & Maria (Stack) Gorman* (only seen these names once but have no > confirmation) > >   - *James Gorman* (b: abt 1815 in Ireland, d: abt 1890 in USA) married *Mary >   Dee* in Ireland the immigrated to USA in about 1854 >   - *William Gorman*  (b: jun 8 1853 in Kilsheelan, Waterford d: in USA) >      his godparents: *Patrick Shea & Catherine Hickey* >      - Patrick Gorman (b: aug 1855 in Pawtucket, RI, USA) his > godparents: *William >      Lonnergan* and *Catherine Connors* >      - *William Gorman* (b: about 1825 in Ireland, d: abt 1890 in USA) >   married *Catherine Connors* in 1857 Pawtucket, RI. USA > > I have not listed all their children as the majority of them were born in > the USA.  But the names in bold are all from Ireland or never left Ireland > and I presume were from the general area of Kilsheelan parish.  It would be > wonderful to hear is anyone has any further information about these people. > > Thank you, > > > Jim Gorman > > > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jim, My husband's family is from the Kilsheelan/Kilcash parish. I believe Kilsheelan is in County Tipperary, but it's right on the border of County Waterford and Tipperary. We were there 2 years ago and visited the Kilsheelan Church and Kilcash Church. We also looked through the graveyards. While Gorman is not in my husband's ancestry (yet), he does have Shea's and Lonergan's (still need to confirm the latter). I have copied the baptismal records from the Kilsheelan/Kilcash parish for a 3-month period in the years 1870 and 1868. I will check and see if I find any Gorman's. Annette On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM, James Gorman <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Here is an more extensive list of what I know about my family from > Kilsheelan. > > *Arthur & Maria (Stack) Gorman* (only seen these names once but have no > confirmation) > > - *James Gorman* (b: abt 1815 in Ireland, d: abt 1890 in USA) married > *Mary > Dee* in Ireland the immigrated to USA in about 1854 > - *William Gorman* (b: jun 8 1853 in Kilsheelan, Waterford d: in USA) > his godparents: *Patrick Shea & Catherine Hickey* > - Patrick Gorman (b: aug 1855 in Pawtucket, RI, USA) his > godparents: *William > Lonnergan* and *Catherine Connors* > - *William Gorman* (b: about 1825 in Ireland, d: abt 1890 in USA) > married *Catherine Connors* in 1857 Pawtucket, RI. USA > > I have not listed all their children as the majority of them were born in > the USA. But the names in bold are all from Ireland or never left Ireland > and I presume were from the general area of Kilsheelan parish. It would be > wonderful to hear is anyone has any further information about these people. > > Thank you, > > > Jim Gorman > > > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying and > check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual > message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject > will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In attempting to expand on what I was able to learn on my trip to Roscrea and Bourney, County Tipperary in July, I visited eastern Niagara County Township Clerks and Historians (Somerset, Hartland and Royalton and Middleport Village) last month. I also spent time in Lockport at the: County Clerk's Land Office (County maps and deeds) and Surrogate Court (Wills); County Historian (exceptional historical documents collection, genealogical files and the Niagara County Historical Society (genealogical files). By staying at a small B&B in Gasport I was able to have easy access to all parts of eastern Niagara County. Two observations: Historians are charged with maintaining historical files. They have LIMITED resources, sometimes not even a private, secure office. Early notification of what you are looking for can greatly improve your chances of success. Town Clerks are very protective of official records and normally will only respond to specific requests. I was not allowed to see source documents. Be prepared to give as much detail (names and dates) as possible. Other (family) names in eastern Niagara County that were of interest are HICKEY, COLEMAN, MEAGHER (MAHAR), FERMOILE, MULCAHEY, BRAY, CARY and SEAMAN. I have pictures of headstones for several of these families from St Stephens RC Cemetery, Middleport and St Patricks RC Cemetery, Hartland (Carman Road, about 1/2 mile north of Seaman Road). Types of information I was able develop: Daniel Carey - g-grandfather. Through land records and city/county directories. 1869 - Leased 5 acres, Somerset. 1870 - Purchased, from Michael Mead, 2 acres, Somerset. 1874 - Purchased, from Michael Mead, 12 1/4 acres, Somerset. 1875 - Purchased, from George and Mary Bennett, 47 acres, Hartland. 1891 - Owned 81 acres (Middleport?). Martin Tracey - g-granduncle. From Naturalization and Veterans records. Born Ireland about 1840. Emigrated 1858, to Middleport in June. Served Co F, 3rd NY Cavalry, Feb 1864 - Jul 1865; Co H, First Mountain Rifles, Jul 1865 - Nov 1865. Parents, Martin Tracey and Eliza McDoole. Naturalized 1868, witnesses Mathew Courser and John Dunn. Michael (M.E.) Carey - granduncle. From Will (Administrative record), County Directory and Historian notes. Settlement of accounts of Grocery/General Store on Towpath owed by M.E. and Patrick J. Fermoile. Distribution to heirs (includes ages of siblings/second wife). Memorial window in St Stephens RC Church dedicated to Michael and Elizabeth (first wife) Carey. Funeral procession (1906) included, amongst others, Medina K of C and Middleport police/fire departments. I have been unable to find his death certificate, obit or related newspaper articles. In particular, I am attempting to confirm his place of birth in Ireland and, since there appears to be no New York death certificate, where he died, Aug 1906. An 1878 History of Niagara County, N.Y. identifies the location of the St Patricks Church and Presbytery as being on Quaker Road near the north line of the town of Hartland. It also contains a drawing of the Church. It subsequently burned anda new sanctuary built in Barker. It was dedicated in 1915.

Hello everyone, Here is an more extensive list of what I know about my family from Kilsheelan. *Arthur & Maria (Stack) Gorman* (only seen these names once but have no confirmation) - *James Gorman* (b: abt 1815 in Ireland, d: abt 1890 in USA) married *Mary Dee* in Ireland the immigrated to USA in about 1854 - *William Gorman* (b: jun 8 1853 in Kilsheelan, Waterford d: in USA) his godparents: *Patrick Shea & Catherine Hickey* - Patrick Gorman (b: aug 1855 in Pawtucket, RI, USA) his godparents: *William Lonnergan* and *Catherine Connors* - *William Gorman* (b: about 1825 in Ireland, d: abt 1890 in USA) married *Catherine Connors* in 1857 Pawtucket, RI. USA I have not listed all their children as the majority of them were born in the USA. But the names in bold are all from Ireland or never left Ireland and I presume were from the general area of Kilsheelan parish. It would be wonderful to hear is anyone has any further information about these people. Thank you, Jim Gorman

Hello everyone, I am new to this as I just was able to confirm that my line of the Gormans left Kilsheelan in 1854 for Pawtucket, Rhode Island, USA where their 2nd son (Patrick Gorman) was baptized in 1855. Patrick's godfather was William Lonergan. I know nothing else about him but have never seen the last name Lonergan in any on my research where the Gorman's might have been until I typed in Kilsheelan into the Tipperary archive on rootsweb. I'm hoping some one will recognize this name. By the way. the baptismal record for Kilsheelan are available now at waterford.rootsireland.ie. This is where I have my break through today. Thank you, Jim Gorman

Looks like Katla volcano on Iceland may finally be getting ready to erupt. If she does, I may be out-of-touch depending on the volume of ash and the direction the wind is blowing. If it happens one of these days, and you can't reach me, remember Aggi-Rose is my ever dependable back-up for the two lists, Waterford & CoTipperary. She sees all the messages that come through to the admin address already. [email protected] Janet