Hi, I have reached a brick wall with my husband's ancestor Patrick Gibbs. He is from Killurney, County Tipperary. He married Anastasia McGrath around 1842/43. Their first two children were named William Gibbs (b. 1843, must have died young) and William (b. 15 Jan 1844). That makes me think Patrick's father must have been William. However, when I go to the IFHC site and put in Patrick Gibbs, there are several born in the early 1800's and none of them have the father William (in fact, I don't know who the father is as it does not list him, unless I buy the record). There are several Patrick Gibbs born in that timeframe and I don't know which one he is. There appears to be a Patrick Gibbs that died in 1885 (born 1820) and it was reported in Clonmel. So that is most likely him. If I order the death record, will that give me more information? If so, how can I order the record. Does anyone have any advice on how I can find out more information about Patrick and his parents? Thanks, Annette

In Ireland a parish covers more than 1 church, check this map showing Catholic parishes http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/tipperarynrc.htm Click on a parish and it shows what civil parishes are in RC parish. As it is near the Galway border if you can't find anything that may be another option. In one of the parishes I looked at there were 5 churches but all entries are in the one book - a number of entries from one area and then next lot from a different place. Brenda, Melbourne. On 13/02/2012, at 10:10 AM, Mary Beth Damiani <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Brenda. I have seen those and did not find him on there. I read > that there are 2 RC churches, Immaculate Conception in Terryglass and Saint > Barron in Kilbarron. > > Mary Beth. > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Brenda Pilson <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi, >> If he was RC the church records for Kilbarron are in Terryglass RC parish. >> These start from 1827 and have been filmed by LDS, so you can order the >> film and view it at one of their centres. >> Film no. 0926102 >> >> Brenda, Melbourne. >> >> On 13/02/2012, at 9:46 AM, Mary Beth Damiani <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello. >>> I researching my great great grandfather, Patrick Needham, who was born >>> about 1830, Ireland. According to his obituary he was from Kilbarron, >>> County Tipperary, Ireland. I am looking for his baptism record. Can >>> anyone help me in finding the records for Saint Barron? I'm thinking he >>> may of been baptised there. Thank you for your consideration. >>> Kindly, >>> Mary Beth >>> >>> >>> Please remove extraneous text when replying: >>> Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, >> and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an >> individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and >> the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. >>> >>> All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> Please remove extraneous text when replying: >> Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and >> check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual >> message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject >> will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. >> >> All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, If he was RC the church records for Kilbarron are in Terryglass RC parish. These start from 1827 and have been filmed by LDS, so you can order the film and view it at one of their centres. Film no. 0926102 Brenda, Melbourne. On 13/02/2012, at 9:46 AM, Mary Beth Damiani <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello. > I researching my great great grandfather, Patrick Needham, who was born > about 1830, Ireland. According to his obituary he was from Kilbarron, > County Tipperary, Ireland. I am looking for his baptism record. Can > anyone help me in finding the records for Saint Barron? I'm thinking he > may of been baptised there. Thank you for your consideration. > Kindly, > Mary Beth > > > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Brenda. I have seen those and did not find him on there. I read that there are 2 RC churches, Immaculate Conception in Terryglass and Saint Barron in Kilbarron. Mary Beth. On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Brenda Pilson <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi, > If he was RC the church records for Kilbarron are in Terryglass RC parish. > These start from 1827 and have been filmed by LDS, so you can order the > film and view it at one of their centres. > Film no. 0926102 > > Brenda, Melbourne. > > On 13/02/2012, at 9:46 AM, Mary Beth Damiani <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hello. > > I researching my great great grandfather, Patrick Needham, who was born > > about 1830, Ireland. According to his obituary he was from Kilbarron, > > County Tipperary, Ireland. I am looking for his baptism record. Can > > anyone help me in finding the records for Saint Barron? I'm thinking he > > may of been baptised there. Thank you for your consideration. > > Kindly, > > Mary Beth > > > > > > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, > and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an > individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and > the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and > check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual > message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject > will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello. I researching my great great grandfather, Patrick Needham, who was born about 1830, Ireland. According to his obituary he was from Kilbarron, County Tipperary, Ireland. I am looking for his baptism record. Can anyone help me in finding the records for Saint Barron? I'm thinking he may of been baptised there. Thank you for your consideration. Kindly, Mary Beth

A message from Nick Reddan: Colleagues I have just completed an update. Thanks again to the tremendous efforts of the contributors we now have 85,014 index records from 10,643 memorials indexed. One of the deeds I abstracted is interesting as it gives over 100 years of history and the dates of 3 marriages. http://members.pcug.org.au/~nickred/deeds/memorial_extract.cgi?my_memorial=183902286&my_indexer=nickred Please feel free to cross post to other lists." Please note that the alpha search is now off by a bit and I will write to Nick to let him know. Janet

Joanne, there are 5 Edmond, Edmund or Edward Reardon's. In addition there are 3 Edmond Riordan's. All are in my wife's tree. I will give you the lineup and some other info. Edmond Riordan, b 1781 in Ireland, m Catherine MacMahon about 1809 in Ireland; died 17 May 1829 in Co. Tipperary Ireland (grave marker in Solohead/Oola RC Cemetery next to St. Nicholas RC Church in Solohead, Co. Tipperary His 5th Child-Edmond Riordan was born on 12 June 1824. Baptism records show is was baptized in Solohead Parish-Sponsors were Honor Devereux & John Leamy. Edmond Riordan/Reardon was born on 26 May 1813 in Co. Tipperary. Parents were Dermot Riordan & Mary Meagher. He was baptized in Solohead Parish; sponsors were Edmund & Catherine Trihy. This Edmond is my wife's ggg grandfather. He was married on 18 Feb 1846 to Johanna/Joanna Breen (Brien/O'Brien). Their children were: John James Reardon-12 Oct 1846 Jeremiah Reardon-8 Apr 1848 (my wife's gg grandfather) Edmond Reardon-16 May 1849 (records in the states do not match up, but I think he fibbed when he got married. Mary Riordan-28 Dec 1859 (Married William Hanley, they lived in the townland of Ballycohy near Tipperary Town. Johanna/Hannah Riordan-24 Feb 1853 Thomas Reardon-28 Feb 1854 The 4 Reardon brothers lived in either Mass or R.I. after coming to the states. Edmond married Mary Elizabeth Murray in E. Providence on 28 Apr 1885 . Their first child Elizabeth was born in July 1886. She died after giving birth to Edmond Jr on 30 Dec 1888. Edmond Jr was born on 19 Dec 1888 and died on 9 July 1889 in Arlington, MA. John James Reardon married Johanna Dwyer in Providence on 11 Oct 1874. Johanna was born in Co. Tipperary in 1853 and emigrated to the U.S. at the age of 13 in Aug 1866. I have her parents as Edward Dwyer & Catherine. The first child of John & Johanna was Edmond Vincent Reardon, b 18 Jul 1875 in Providence, R.I. He married Alice Louise Clark about 1908 in Providence and died in 1931 in Providence. Edmond Vincent & Alice's 4th child was Edward V. Reardon b 8 Oct 1915 in Providence. Edward V. married Catherine Reagan on 21 Nov 1953 in Pawtucket, R.I. He died in Jan 1976 in Providence. There first and only child was also Edward V. Reardon born on 28 Oct 1954 in Rhode Island. He is a practicing DO in the Providence, Warwick R.I. area. I think I covered them all. Now maybe you can connect some dots. The names do offer promise, but........ Carmen D. Pittsburgh ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Emly- Burnes and Reardon > Carmen, > Do you have any birth dates of these men and women? I hadn't heard of a > Providence connection-mine settled in Ct. The names seem common to Irish > families yet the Edmund caught my eye. It's repeated as one of my > Grandfather's brothers. > Joanne > > >

Carmen, Do you have any birth dates of these men and women? I hadn't heard of a Providence connection-mine settled in Ct. The names seem common to Irish families yet the Edmund caught my eye. It's repeated as one of my Grandfather's brothers. Joanne -----Original Message----- From: Carmen DiGiacomo <[email protected]> To: cotipperary <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:00 pm Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] Emly- Burnes and Reardon Joanne, Emly is a Roman Catholic Parish near Tipperary Town. I am sure there are others on the list who will provide additional information. I also research Reardon's/Riordan's from that area. They are my wife's ancestors and I know there is a connection to the Dwyer name in Ireland because my wife's now deceased aunt told of a female cousin named Dwyer that lived with the family in Providence. My wife's gg grandfather Jeremiah came to Providence and built a house there. His brothers were John, Edmund and Thomas, all came to the states. Two sisters, Mary & Johanna stayed in Ireland. Mary Reardon married William Hanley and they had 13 children 4 of them going to USA. Ellen Hanley married John Dwyer (in Providence) who was said to be from Tipperary but unconfirmed. Lots of dots. But can they be connected? If anything fits let me know. Carmen D. Pittsburgh > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and > check > the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual > message > will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will > be the > Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and > check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an > individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and > the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remove extraneous text when replying: Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joanne, As Carmen said, it is Emly, Co. Tipperary. Emly won the Tidiest Town contest last year and yu should be able to find pictures on the net. The records would be available on film at the National Library in Dublin, or you could go through the Tipperary Family History Research group in the Excel Center in Tipperary Town. http://www.tfhr.org/ Or you get get the civil records for any baptism or marriage after 1864: Civil Registration Office - Births, Marriages & Deaths Community Services, Western Road, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary Opening Hours: 09:30-16:00 Mon-Fri Phone: 052-77204 / 052-77205 Or, and this is a last resort option, you can write to the local Emly priest. Most likely the records will only give the parent's names, although the civil marriage records will likely give the two father's occupations and no mother's name. Janet On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I have discovered birth/baptism information for my relatives, both Burnes and Reardon, that indicate "Emly, Tipperary, Ireland after the birthdate. Does Emly indicate a church or a village ? > In either case, are the records available ? What information might they give ? > The Burnes' births range from 1867-80 ( I have the parents' names of Patrick and Johanna Donohue Burnes) The children were John D, Catherine, Mary, Anne, Edmond, Thomas, Honora, Patrick. > Three of the Burnes' children remained in Ireland in the general area of Kilross:  Michael Burnes, and Mrs. Eliza Lewis, Mrs. John Hartnett. > The Reardon's births range from 1864-1878 (Parents' John and Mary Dwyer Reardon). Names: John D, Michael, Catherine, Honoria, James, William.  They lived near Russell family in Kilross. > Could anyone explain about the reference to Emly ?  Do any of these names seem familiar ?  Any suggestions where I can look for further information? > Joanne

Hi Kevin They arrived in Sydney NSW on the St Lawrence on 8th June 1877. Mothers name was Johanna Scully, Church St Tipperary Town. 1. Mary Scully.......said she had no relatives in colonies, sponsored by Mary Ryan 2. Ellen Sheedy.....said both her parents were dead, said she had a step-brother in Sydney called Patrick Ryan. ( spouse of Mary Ryan ?) 3. Julia Sheedy.... 17 yr old sister of Ellen. Mary Scully and the Sheedy girls seem to be connected, dont know how? Mary's two sisters Sarah and Julia Scully also emigrated to sydney, Sarah on the ship Northampton in 1880 and Julia in 1879. In the 1901 census Johanna was living with her daughter Lizzie Landers and her son-in-law William. She was a widow.. Johanna Scully( mother ) died in 1907. On death record her husbands name was Thomas scully and informant was Lizzie Landers Church St Tipperary. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin ryan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [COTIPPERARY] SCULLY/SHEEDY CHURCH ST TIPPERARY TOWN 1870'S Hi Margaret I have a Margaret Scully born in Golden/ Cashel, went to Chicago and then came back to Ireland and lived in TIP town from1874 onwards. So a few questions if I may. Do you have any parents names? What Religion were they? They went on the St Lawrence in 1877 to? Regards Kevin Nelson New Zealand Please remove extraneous text when replying: Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

An Irish film group is trying to put together a pilot film about Ireland in the 4th century. I though you might like to get a look at a short clip from it. The information is below the video. http://www.wefund.com/project/curse-macha-pilot-feature-film-production Janet

Joanne, Emly is a Roman Catholic Parish near Tipperary Town. I am sure there are others on the list who will provide additional information. I also research Reardon's/Riordan's from that area. They are my wife's ancestors and I know there is a connection to the Dwyer name in Ireland because my wife's now deceased aunt told of a female cousin named Dwyer that lived with the family in Providence. My wife's gg grandfather Jeremiah came to Providence and built a house there. His brothers were John, Edmund and Thomas, all came to the states. Two sisters, Mary & Johanna stayed in Ireland. Mary Reardon married William Hanley and they had 13 children 4 of them going to USA. Ellen Hanley married John Dwyer (in Providence) who was said to be from Tipperary but unconfirmed. Lots of dots. But can they be connected? If anything fits let me know. Carmen D. Pittsburgh ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:30 PM Subject: [COTIPPERARY] Emly- Burnes and Reardon > > > > > > I have discovered birth/baptism information for my relatives, both Burnes > and Reardon, that indicate "Emly, Tipperary, Ireland after the birthdate. > Does Emly indicate a church or a village ? > In either case, are the records available ? What information might they > give ? > The Burnes' births range from 1867-80 ( I have the parents' names of > Patrick and Johanna Donohue Burnes) The children were John D, Catherine, > Mary, Anne, Edmond, Thomas, Honora, Patrick. > Three of the Burnes' children remained in Ireland in the general area of > Kilross: Michael Burnes, and Mrs. Eliza Lewis, Mrs. John Hartnett. > The Reardon's births range from 1864-1878 (Parents' John and Mary Dwyer > Reardon). Names: John D, Michael, Catherine, Honoria, James, William. > They lived near Russell family in Kilross. > Could anyone explain about the reference to Emly ? Do any of these names > seem familiar ? Any suggestions where I can look for further information? > Joanne > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and > check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an > individual > message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the > subject > will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and > check > the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual > message > will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will > be the > Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and > check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an > individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and > the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have discovered birth/baptism information for my relatives, both Burnes and Reardon, that indicate "Emly, Tipperary, Ireland after the birthdate. Does Emly indicate a church or a village ? In either case, are the records available ? What information might they give ? The Burnes' births range from 1867-80 ( I have the parents' names of Patrick and Johanna Donohue Burnes) The children were John D, Catherine, Mary, Anne, Edmond, Thomas, Honora, Patrick. Three of the Burnes' children remained in Ireland in the general area of Kilross: Michael Burnes, and Mrs. Eliza Lewis, Mrs. John Hartnett. The Reardon's births range from 1864-1878 (Parents' John and Mary Dwyer Reardon). Names: John D, Michael, Catherine, Honoria, James, William. They lived near Russell family in Kilross. Could anyone explain about the reference to Emly ? Do any of these names seem familiar ? Any suggestions where I can look for further information? Joanne Please remove extraneous text when replying: Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remove extraneous text when replying: Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Margaret   I have a Margaret Scully born in Golden/ Cashel, went to Chicago and then came back to Ireland and lived in TIP town from1874 onwards. So  a few questions if I may. Do you have any parents names? What Religion were they? They went on the St Lawrence in 1877 to?   Regards Kevin Nelson New Zealand    

Hi John Newspapers are about your best bet for Irish trial reports, I assume you are in OZ, if you are in Canberra the National Library has the Dublin Freeman's Journal but not on Trove. Also there are some digitised newspapers available now at www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk which I believe has the Freeman's Journal but there is a charge I think. The transportation database is incomplete, it can be a great source if you are lucky but only ever covers details of trials in correspondence about petitions for clemency etc. Unfortunately in its present state it is very unwieldy, why O why have they changed this ! On a more personal note Denis is a connection of mine, he married Mary Newman sister of my grgrgrtgrandfather John so perhaps you could contact me off list Robyn Hardie On 03/02/2012, at 4:13 PM, John O'Neil wrote: > Hello to all > I was hoping that someone could tell me where i might find > information on the Summer Assizes for Tipperary.I am looking for a > Denis Shanahn trial date 19 July 1836.He was on trial for grievous > assault he received a 7year sentence.Arrived in Australia in > December 1836 on the ship Earl Grey.I was wondering if there were > any newspaper reports at that time > John > > > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are > replying, and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a > reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless > you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you > change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives > at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTIPPERARY- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

John Unfortunately the National Archives have changed their website and the former Ireland Australia transportation database is not available for the moment . There is a .csv file of the database available but I don't know how to search it properly. You will find the link to this file on the home page of the Archives website under Women's history and transportation resources. If you can search it and find the correct Denis Shanahan there may be a reference to a CRF file that sometimes may give more information. I did find a Denis Shanahan from Tipperary transported on the Hulk Surprise 7 Aug 1836 but it doesn't match your details. Newpapers of the time may not have specific details of outcomes of trials often they just note that transportation sentences were given but not mention names. Have you got all his Australian records as sometimes they give more information. Not sure if this helps. Clare On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:13 AM, John O'Neil <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello to all > I was hoping that someone could tell me where i might find information on > the Summer Assizes for Tipperary.I am looking for a Denis Shanahn trial > date 19 July 1836.He was on trial for grievous assault he received a 7year > sentence.Arrived in Australia in December 1836 on the ship Earl Grey.I was > wondering if there were any newspaper reports at that time > John > > > Please remove extraneous text when replying: > Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and > check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual > message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject > will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. > > All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Pre 1836 The fire in the Public Record Office complex in the Four Courts during the Irish Civil War (1922-1923) resulted in the severe damage and destruction of records. Although not all records from the Chief Secretary's Office in Dublin Castle survive, especially from the period before 1836, sufficient material has survived to make the transportation records held in the National Archives a major source for Australians researching Irish convict ancestors. Penal transportation to Australia (and later to Bermuda or Gibraltar) covered the years 1791 until 1853 when the sentence of penal transportation was commuted to a prison sentence in Ireland. I would suggest a browse of the site here and a read of what they have to say would be of great benefit to you http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/ireland-australi a-transportation-records-1791-1853/748-2/ cheers cara -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John O'Neil Sent: 03 February 2012 16:13 To: [email protected] Subject: [COTIPPERARY] shanahan Hello to all I was hoping that someone could tell me where i might find information on the Summer Assizes for Tipperary.I am looking for a Denis Shanahn trial date 19 July 1836.He was on trial for grievous assault he received a 7year sentence.Arrived in Australia in December 1836 on the ship Earl Grey.I was wondering if there were any newspaper reports at that time John Please remove extraneous text when replying: Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4782 - Release Date: 02/02/12

Hello to all I was hoping that someone could tell me where i might find information on the Summer Assizes for Tipperary.I am looking for a Denis Shanahn trial date 19 July 1836.He was on trial for grievous assault he received a 7year sentence.Arrived in Australia in December 1836 on the ship Earl Grey.I was wondering if there were any newspaper reports at that time John

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This will be a case of piecing together information from various records to create an argument about who their parents were. I would encourage you to see if you can find their marriage in the parish records which might have the name of the townlands that the groom and bride were living in. Using that, I would go the Griffith Valuation records to see who by their surnames were living in the townlands on the assumption that their fathers would have been land occupiers at that time. (This is where you pray that you don't have a really common name in the area!) There's always a chance that the fathers were deceased by then but the mothers might even be considered the legal tenant. If you can't find the marriage record or if the townlands aren't listed on it, then look at the Griffiths Valuation for the townland where your 3rd great-grandparents were living when that first child was born. Again, see who else by the surname was living there. The valuation records are online at _www.AskaboutIreland.ie_ (http://www.AskaboutIreland.ie) Another piece of the puzzle is to consider the traditional naming pattern of the Irish. If it was followed, the first son was named after the paternal grandfather, the second son after the maternal grandfather. They would also use the same pattern for the daughters - first daughter after the paternal grandmother, the second after the maternal line. They didn't always use this but if there are several people with the same surname in the area, you can use it to narrow your attention to the most likely fathers. You can work backwards with the surname and look at the Tithe Applotment records from the 1820's and 1830's. Not every land occupier was subject to the tithe but most were so it's worth looking at. The tithe records for the civil parish of Kilsheelan have been transcribed at _http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/tipp/KilsheelanTithes.htm_ (http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/tipp/KilsheelanTithes.htm) . The key here is to know that the civil parish of Kilsheelan isn't necessarily identical to the Catholic parish of Kilsheelan - the religious parishes often included several civil parishes so you might have to check a different civil parish on the connorsgenealogy website. Again, the Griffiths Valuation site will supply you with the civil parish name for your townland. The 1821 census for the area was destroyed in the 1922 fire but someone had abstracted information for the civil parish of Kilsheenlan and their work survived. It's for selected surnames but yours might be there. The pages have been transcribed and put online at _http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/census_1821.htm_ (http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/census_1821.htm) You didn't mentioned if the family stayed in Ireland or emigrated. If they were listed in the Griffiths Primary Valuation, I would trace their land occupation through the updated valuation records to see who took over their land when they left or died. Often it was another member of the family. These "canceled land books" or "revision lists" have been microfilmed and are available from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. This may all be familiar territory for you or it may be as confusing as all get-out. It takes some patience but if you can create a picture of all the families by your surname in the area, you may be able to have a strong case for who your family was. If you have questions, let me know. Theresa Liewer Ankeny, Iowa In a message dated 2/1/2012 12:23:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I know that my 3rd-greatgrandparents first child was born and baptized in Kilsheelan parish in 1853 however the parents were born before the time baptismal records exist for this parish. What options do I have for further research on my genealogy? thank you, Jim Please remove extraneous text when replying: Please remember to "snip" short the message to which you are replying, and check the subject line. If you are on Digest mode, a reply to an individual message will repeat the entire digest unless you "snip" it, and the subject will be the Digest ID unless you change it, please. All of the past messages of this list can be found in the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cotipperary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message