Oh dear. That would mean my Susanna Rowe born in Launcells in 1781 is not really Cornish. She married into a Devon family anyway - the traitor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Jarve" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Red headed Danes This is the story that I was told, by a man named John Rowe, who had a professional genealogist do his family tree: Rolf, The Viking, also known as Rolf, the Granger, left Norway for reasons we don't know and he took his entire clan and settled in Denmark. Rolf or Rollo, as he was called, was very tall and had red hair. He raided the coasts from there and in Denmark became known in Danish as Rollo, the Viking. When he raided the coast of France, he found a land that was particularly interesting to him and he took his clan and settled in the northern part of France. The king, knowing that they were solidly entrenched in that area made a deal with Rollo that he could have the land if he protected the northern coast from the other vikings. Rollo also had to marry a relative of the king and take on a christian name. In France, he was know as Ro because they didn't pronounce their L's. (This is in history books or you can google it). The land he had was called Normandy which means land of the norsemen. Ro's grandson was William, the Conquerer (sp?) and in 1066, he conquered England. He rather wanted to be King of England than Duke of Normandy, so he left Normandy to his brother, and took all of his people with him to England. There he gave conquered lands to his family and those who fought for him. William's family had red hair, i.e. Rufus the Red. When Cromwell began his purge of the catholic people in England, Many, including priests, were tortured and/or killed, having their lands taken away from them. Many of them escaped into Cornwall where the majority of the English people considered a useless area. Anyway this is in history books and was told to me. Thus there are Rowes in Cornwall, who the Cornish people, to this day, claim that they are not really Cornish. P.S. The Rowe's have red hair. For what it's worth - Judy --- On Wed, 11/21/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Red headed Dane To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, November 21, 2012, 5:11 PM Interesting information....Some people say that Denmark was the home of the Vikings. Denmark and Norway,home of the Norsemen, were once joined kingdoms. There are were several Viking settlements, in the UK and Ireland. Jorvik, present day York, England has been carefully studied for decades. I believe that Vikings also had various contacts in Cornwall, such as raids of coastal villages, towns, and religious establishments. Finally, the Normans, who were Viking descendants, permanently settled into the British Isles. Perhaps this past history is what created such enduring stereotypes as "hot headed redhead" or "red headed Dane". Steade In a message dated 11/20/2012 2:37:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The phrase "red headed Dane"abot a ginger haired person was /is still used in Mousehole. Kath. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:07:43 -0700 From: Elizabeth Marcheschi <[email protected]> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Question about Danes in Cornwall To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello everyone, It has been a long time since I posted but that is along story and I am back, hopefully for a bit. To get to the point, I was reading a book, "Foundation: The History of England from its Earliest Beginnings" by Peter Ackroyd and found something I had never heard before: "In Cornwall, at the end of the same century, (i.e., 19th) s colony of red-haired people were called 'Danes' with whom the local population would not marry." Danes is familiar, probably smackingly-so, but the story is new.Does anyone know anything about it? Thank you in advance, Beth Marcheschi Colorado ------------------------------ To contact the CORNISH-GEN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the CORNISH-GEN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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I suppose "not really Cornish" might apply to anyone whose family didn't originate there, but how far do we go? I, and presumably many thousands of others, have ancestors among the clan of PRIDEAUX whose Cornish ancestry can be traced back to around the time of the Norman Conquest - Paganus PRIDEAUX is thought by many to have come over with William the Conqueror although there is no documentation to confirm this. Since his family were substantial landowners, and the Normans basically parcelled up England among themselves (to the exclusion of the Saxons who "lost" in 1066), this seems a reasonable assumption. Incidentally William the Conqueror's 3xg grandfather was Rollo Rognvaldson, born about 846 AD in Norway, who was the founder of the Duchy of Normandy. Tony Bennett Cheshire, UK