I have examples of baptisms much later than the age of two so I would advise against discounting a baptism just because it is later than expected without investigation. Sometimes the age is on the register when it occurs for an older child but not always. I also have examples of ages on death registers being wrong because the family didn't know - in one case the lady concerned had married a much younger man and she obviously told him she was 10 years younger than she was because that is the age that appears on the marriage certificate, all subsequent censuses and her death certificate! Fortunately, Scottish marriage certificates gave the bride and groom's mother's names as well as the father's so when I eventually obtained the certificate after years of discounting the marriage because of the age differences pre and post 1861 census, it confirmed that it was the same lady. Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Lois Mackin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 2:18 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St Hilary Bev, If the James Edmonds son of Tobias you're referring to is the one who married Eliza Spargo in 1848 and emigrated to Pennsylvania, I don't think the 1820 Marazion baptism could be his. The tombstone of the James who married Eliza is in Odd Fellows Cemetery, Tamaqua (Schuylkill County), Pennsylvania. It gives James' death date as 16 May 1860 and his age as "42 years," suggesting a birth date of 1818. This is consistent with the age 30 that appears on James' and Eliza's marriage certificate. Ages for James in U.S. census records are not completely consistent with the 1818 birth date, however. In the 1850 U.S. census, James' age is given as 30 (suggesting a birth date of about 1820). He also appears on the 1860 census mortality schedule for Schuylkill County; his age is given there as 44 (suggesting a birth date of 1816). I believe these census ages are less likely to be correct than the tombstone age, since we don't know who provided the census information, while family members probably provided the tombstone age, and James himself presumably provided the marriage certificate age. Best regards, Lois Mackin Plymouth, Minnesota
Lois & Joy, Just a reminder: The 1820 baptism at Marazion is NOT of a James EDMONDS. It is of Jane EDMONDS, daughter of Tobias and Elizabeth. Bill Curnow Port Charlotte, FL, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Langdon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Age information on documents I have examples of baptisms much later than the age of two so I would advise against discounting a baptism just because it is later than expected without investigation. Sometimes the age is on the register when it occurs for an older child but not always. I also have examples of ages on death registers being wrong because the family didn't know - in one case the lady concerned had married a much younger man and she obviously told him she was 10 years younger than she was because that is the age that appears on the marriage certificate, all subsequent censuses and her death certificate! Fortunately, Scottish marriage certificates gave the bride and groom's mother's names as well as the father's so when I eventually obtained the certificate after years of discounting the marriage because of the age differences pre and post 1861 census, it confirmed that it was the same lady. Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Lois Mackin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 2:18 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Jane/James EDMONDS c 1820 s/o Tobias St Hilary Bev, If the James Edmonds son of Tobias you're referring to is the one who married Eliza Spargo in 1848 and emigrated to Pennsylvania, I don't think the 1820 Marazion baptism could be his. The tombstone of the James who married Eliza is in Odd Fellows Cemetery, Tamaqua (Schuylkill County), Pennsylvania. It gives James' death date as 16 May 1860 and his age as "42 years," suggesting a birth date of 1818. This is consistent with the age 30 that appears on James' and Eliza's marriage certificate. Ages for James in U.S. census records are not completely consistent with the 1818 birth date, however. In the 1850 U.S. census, James' age is given as 30 (suggesting a birth date of about 1820). He also appears on the 1860 census mortality schedule for Schuylkill County; his age is given there as 44 (suggesting a birth date of 1816). I believe these census ages are less likely to be correct than the tombstone age, since we don't know who provided the census information, while family members probably provided the tombstone age, and James himself presumably provided the marriage certificate age. Best regards, Lois Mackin Plymouth, Minnesota ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
<I have examples of baptisms much later than the age of two so I would advise against discounting a baptism just because it is later than expected without investigation. Sometimes the age is on the register when it occurs for an older child but not always.> Sometimes the arrival of a new child prompted the baptism of the rest of the family, as a "job lot", and they were all "done" at the same time. Happy New Year to everyone, Tom Thompson, St Agnes.