Hi John, Welcome to the list. John WHITE: Usually when the parish is just given as "St Just" it means "St Just in Penwith" (there is another, called "St Just in Roseland"). There is a christening in St Just in Penwith for a John WHITE on January 11, 1824, son of William & Mary. They were living at Carnyorth, and father William was a miner. You can find this (and siblings) on the Cornwall OPC database. See http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/home/ John's death registration is on FreeBMD as the March quarter of 1882, aged 58. That would make the month of his death January, February or March. The GRO reference is March 1882, registration district of Liskeard, Vol.5c p.42. Ordering the death certificate would get you the actual date and place of death. See http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl John appears on the 1881 census of Cornwall in the parish of Callington (this is in the Liskeard registration district). He was 55 and a copper miner. With him were wife Eliza (52, born St Austell), and children John (18), Thomas (16) and Elizabeth M (16). In 1871, he was in Callington, widowed, aged 48, with children William (18), John (10), Thomas (7) and Elizabeth M (2). There may be a typo (or erroneous information given) in the 1881 census for Elizabeth M's age, as the 2 year old in 1871 fits with the 1869 birth year you have. See http://www.freecen.org.uk/ In 1861, John was in the parish of St Ive, age 36. With him were 1st wife Elizabeth (33, born Kenwyn) and children William (8) and Mary Ann (1). That would put his marriage year at around 1852-ish. In the 1851 census, John was a visitor in St Cleer at the house of James LAWRY. He was single, aged 26. And, in 1841 census, he was in St Just, at a residence called Carnyorth, aged 15-19 with parents William (aged 45-49, miner), Mary (50-54) and siblings William (20-24), Thomas (20-24), Richard (18), Elizabeth (15-19), George (10) and Mary Ann (10). Elizabeth CLEMOW (spelling always optional): The marriage of John WHITE and Elizabeth CLEMES is on Free BMD as the June quarter of 1852, registration district of Liskeard, Vol.5c, page 150. Elizabeth WHITE's death is on FreeBMD as the March quarter of 1871 (i.e. Jan, Feb, or March - before the day of the 1871 census), registration district of Liskeard, Vol.5c page 42. Callington Heritage site shows the burial of Elizabeth WHITE in Callington on March 14, 1871, aged 44. See http://www.callingtonheritage.org >From the 1861 census, her birth would be c.1828, in the parish of Kenwyn. LDS site at www.familysearch.org shows the baptism of Elizabeth CLEMOW on February 24, 1828 in Kenwyn, daughter of James and Mary CLEMOW. They lived at Three Burrows, Kenwyn, and her father was a miner. In the 1841 census, Elizabeth CLEMOW was at Three Burrows, aged 14, with her mother Mary (45-49). Unfortunately, the 1841 census did not record marital status or relationship, and there is no sign of father James, so can't be sure if he was deceased or away on census day. With them were likely siblings of Elizabeth: Maryann (20-24), James (15-19), Jane (10) and Joy (5). Kenwyn is in the registration district of Truro. Free BMD has the death registration of a James CLEMOW in the September quarter of 1840, registration district of Truro, Vol.9, page 182. This might be Elizabeth's father if he was indeed deceased by the 1841 census. Eliza NANCE: The marriage of John WHITE and Eliza NANCE is on FreeBMD as the June quarter of 1874, registration district of Liskeard, Vol. 5c page 126. Eliza WHITE appears in the 1891 census at Chapel Row, St Cleer, where she was a 61 year old widow. She is also on the 1901 census in St Cleer, aged 71. The death of Eliza WHITE, aged 76 is on FreeBMD, June quarter 1908, registration district of Liskeard (which also includes St Cleer), Vol. 5c p.36. She was buried in St Cleer General Cemetery on June 6, 1908. This link will take you to the FamilySearch record of that: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20277-21351-21?cc=1769414 As she was close to John WHITE in age, it would be unlikely their marriage was her first. From the 1881 census age, her birth would be c.1829 in the parish of St Austell. Prior to her marriage to John WHITE, Eliza NANCE can be found on the 1871 census in St Cleer where she was a 41 year old widowed charwoman with a daughter Jane (18). In 1861, she was at Chapel Rowe, St Cleer with her parents! John (55) and Jane (60) HOARE. Eliza was 32, widowed, and her birthplace was given this time as St. Blazey (a parish next door to the parish of St Austell). With her were children John (9), Jane (7) and Henry (5) NANCE. The LDS site at www.familysearch.org shows the baptism of Eliza HORE on November 29, 1829 in St Blazey, daughter of John and Jane HORE. FreeBMD shows the marriage of Eliza HOAR and Henry NANCE registered in the September quarter of 1849 in the registration district of Liskeard, Vol. 9 page 197. Cornwall OPC database shows this marriage as having taken place in the parish of Liskeard on July 22, 1849. The 1851 census shows Henry (29, miner) and Eliza NANCE (21) at Trevecca Cottage, Liskeard. You may also find the Genuki sites for the relevant parishes helpful. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/indexpars.html Joanne Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "johntyhurst@sky.com via" <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> To: <Cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 10:37 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] White family > Good Afternoon List > > Having just joined the list I wonder if some kind person can help with my > following brickwall. > > My mothers foster mother Elizabeth Mary White b 2nd May 1869 at Bowling > Green, Callington m George Frederick Barton on 26th March 1894 at > Hailsham, East Sussex she died 26th December 1944 at Polegate, East Sussex > aged 75 yrs. > > My question is can anyone help with the following dates please. > > Elizabeth's father John White ( Tin miner captain ) b 1825 St. Just d. > 1882 Liskeard. > > He married twice, first to Elizabeth Climo b 1828 St. Austell. m. no > date no place. d 1872 Liskeard. > > Second marriage to Eliza Nance b St. Austell 1828 m 1874 Liskeard. > d ???? I assume that Eliza may have been a widow. > > Any help with these dates would be of great help > > Kind Regards > > John Tyhurst. Eastbourne, East Sussex. > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >