Dee - here is another avenue to explore - no way to know if this is YOUR William GROSE as there were others of the same name born Cornwall c1840/41 But maybe worth chasing up to see if there is anything conclusive in further details, as it shows him living in Ontario for 10 years. Barb in Oz ............................................................ Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 for William Grose Death Place: Durham, Ontario, Canada DEATHS County of Durham Division of Newcastle FULL NAME OF DECEASED Initials only not accepted GROSE, William Sex, and Race M, Anglos Saxon Date of Death Dec. 23 1912 Date of ---- Age and Place of Birth 72 yrs., Cornwall, England Place of Death etc. Mill St., Newcastle Occupation Gent, Newcastle Single, Widowed, or Divorced ---- Full name of ---- 023391 (don't know if this could be followed up..?) Birthplace of ---- Maiden Name of ---- Birthplace of ---- Name of Physician who attended Deceased A. Farncomb Certified by A. Farncomb Address Newcastle Date Dec. 24 1912 Medical Certificate of Death I hereby certify that I attended the deceased Name - GROSE, William >From - Jan 1st 1901 To - Dec 23rd 1912 That I last saw him alive on - Dec 23rd 1912 That the death occurred on - Dec 23rd 1912 CAUSE OF DEATH Primary – Rheumatism Duration – 10 years Immediate - Paralysis of Brain Duration – 1 weeks (sic) Physician’s name - A. Farncomb Address - Newcastle Date - Dec. 24 1912 Remarks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barb O'Neil via" <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > To: "Jenny Meadows" <jenny@toptensoftware.com>; > <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com>; > "Dee Edwards" <dee@macace.net> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Fwd: lost ancestor William GROSE > > >> Hello Dee >> I came across the following on rootsweb from 2001 - it seems to refer to >> your William GROSE but does not give any further information. >> What it does do is show that it is very likely his sister Harriet >> emigrated >> to New Zealand - worth checking if you have not already done so. >> Fingers crossed - Barb in Oz >> .......................................................................... >> SEE BELOW: >> From: " C J & J Edwards" <acorn@iinet.com.au> >> Subject: RE: [CON-GEN] Chynoweth/Grose to New Zealand >> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:06:19 +0800 >> In-Reply-To: <000001c12c3e$8ed1e780$525237d2@jmmciver> >> >> >> I wonder if this is Harriet >> >> Descendants of John Grose >> 1 John Groseb: 1807 in Roche, Cornwall,UKd: Bet. >> 1871 - 1881 >> .+Mary Warrickb: 14 October 1798 in St Austell, Cornwall,UK >> m: 10 January 1829 in St Austell, Cornwall,UKd: 1872 in Pennwithick >> Stents, St Austell, Cornwall,UK >> .....2 Jane Groseb: 2 August 1829 in St Austell, >> Cornwall,UK >> .....2 John Groseb: 6 May 1832 in St Austell, Cornwall,UK >> .....2 Harriet Groseb: 6 April 1834 in St Austell, >> Cornwall,UK >> .....2 Henry Groseb: 3 January 1836 in St Austell, >> Cornwall,UK >> .....2 Grace Ann Groseb: 7 June 1846 in St Austell, >> Cornwall,UK >> .....2 Tom Groseb: 1850 in St Austell, Cornwall,UK >> d: 1851 >> .....2 William Groseb: 11 April 1840 in St Austell, >> Cornwall,UK >> .........+Grace Leyb: 1845 in Luxulyan, Cornwall,UK >> m: 28 April 1866 in Luxulyan, Cornwall,UKd: Aft. 1871 >> .............3 Joseph Henry Groseb: 20 April 1868 in >> Luxulyan, Cornwall,UKd: 1910 >> .................+Ann Sophia Roachb: 27 March 1873 >> in Luxulyan, Cornwall,UKd: 15 January 1944 >> .....................Snipped >> .............3 Mary Ley Groseb: 26 April 1870 in Luxulyan, >> Cornwall,UKd: 13 June 1871 in Luxulyan, Cornwall,UK >> .............3 William Ley Groseb: 30 September 1866 in >> Luxulyan, Cornwall,UKd: Aft. 1881 >> >> Regards >> >> Clem >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Judy & Murray McIver [mailto:jandm.nustart@xtra.co.nz] >> Sent: Friday, 24 August 2001 9:46 AM >> To: CORNISH-GEN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CON-GEN] Chynoweth/Grose to New Zealand >> >> William Chynoweth born in Cornwall,England in 1826 >> Harriet Grose born in Cornwall, England in 1834. >> Married 17 Feb. 1862 Dunedin,Otago,New Zealand. >> They lived in Lyttelton, Canterbury, N.Z. in St David Street. The >> children >> they had numbered 6,as far as I can find out. Four of the children died >> aged >> between 9 months and 14 years. My grandmother Minnie and her sister >> Annie >> lived. My research here in New Zealand seems to draw blanks as far as to >> any >> relations. There are other Chynoweth families here but all say there is >> no >> connection. I would like to find out if William or Harriet had a middle >> name, or any other brothers or sisters who made it to NZ. Can any one >> help >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jenny Meadows via" <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> >> To: "Dee Edwards" <dee@macace.net>; <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Fwd: lost ancestor William GROSE >> >> >>> Hi Dee, >>> >>> I had a look for William but unfortunately had no luck finding him in >>> the >>> 1871 or 1881 Census or a burial for him in the Cornwall OPC database. I >>> saw >>> that Grace was listed as married in the 1871 and 1881 Census and a widow >>> in >>> the 1891 Census so it might be worthwhile to trawl through Luxulyan, St. >>> Austell and Treverbyn parish registers on Familysearch to see if his >>> burial >>> was missed. >>> >>> I found these announcements in the newspaper for your family - >>> >>> Royal Cornwall Gazette dated 03 May 1866 page 5: >>> Marriages: >>> GROSE - LAY - At Luxulyan, April 28, by the Rev. C. E. Hosken, Mr >>> William >>> Grose, of the parish of Treverbyn, to Grace, only daughter of Mr Joseph >>> Lay, >>> of Rosemelling, Luxulyan. >>> >>> Royal Cornwall Gazette dated 26 March 1870 page 4: >>> Births: >>> GROSE - At Bridges, Luxulyan, March 21, the wife of Mr. William Grose, >>> of >>> a >>> daughter. >>> >>> Royal Cornwall Gazette dated 11 May 1877 page 5: >>> Deaths: >>> GROSE - At Bridges, Luxulyan, May 5, Mr. John Grose, aged 69. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jen. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:39 AM, Dee Edwards via >>>> <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 2:31 AM, dee edwards <dee@macace.net> wrote: >>> >>>>>> After several years when living family, work etc kept me busy, I’m >>>>>> back >>>>>> researching my GROSE roots. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have traced a great number of the branches my GROSE family around >>>>>> Luxulyan, back to George GROSE d. 1692. But I have a brick wall about >>>>>> the death & whereabouts of my great great grandfather, William GROSE. >>>>>> >>>>>> William GROSE born 11.04.1840 (St Austell), baptised 07.06.1846 St >>>>>> Austell s/o John GROSE (b01.01.1807 d 16.03.1881 St Austell) & Mary >>>>>> (nee >>>>>> WARRICK b 14.10.1798 d 13.03.1872) >>>>>> >>>>>> William GROSE married Grace LAY/LEY (b 1845, bap 28.06.1850 Luxulyan) >>>>>> on >>>>>> 24.04.1866 in Luxulyan >>>>>> Children: >>>>>> William Ley GROSE b 30.09.1866 (M Tryphosa RICHARDS June 1887) >>>>>> Joseph Henry GROSE (b 26.06.1868 Canamaning St Austell, married >>>>>> (08.05.1892 Luxulyan) Ann Sophia ROACH (b 27.03 1873 Luxulyan) - my >>>>>> great grandfather. >>>>>> Mary Ley GROSE (b26.06.1870 Luxulyan, d 11.06.1871 Bridges Luxulyan) >>>>>> also Edith Higman GROSE d 18.03.1890 reported by Henry GROSE >>>>>> ‘stepbrother’ - illegitimate daughter of Grace GROSE & John HIGMAN) >>>>>> >>>>>> William GROSE doesn’t appear on the 1871 census in Cornwall, or >>>>>> subsequent censuses anywhere. I think he left sometime 1869/70. I >>>>>> suspect that Mary Ley GROSE was illegitimate - her birth was >>>>>> registered >>>>>> by her mother, the death was reported by Benjamin STURTRIDGE of Pelyn >>>>>> Tors, Lanlivery (4 miles away) ‘in attendance'. I can’t find a >>>>>> connection between GROSE & STURTRIDGE. I have got Grace GROSE’s >>>>>> history >>>>>> from 1970 onwards (she worked at Bodmin hospital etc) to her death >>>>>> 16.11.1911 in Roche. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have searched boat lists to Oz, US & Canadian sources but can find >>>>>> nothing. Cousins did emigrate to Australia - I’ve been sent an >>>>>> obituary >>>>>> of one who was a saddler in Ballarat. >>>>>> >>>>>> So if anyone knows about William GROSE b 11.04.1840 after 1870, I’d >>>>>> love >>>>>> to know! By profession he was a carpenter, as was his father. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >>> information >>> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dee, I cannot help with finding WILLIAM GROSE. However, I am sure (because of the STURTRIDGE connection) that the following are involved. John Grose married Ann Sturtridge Bodmin Dec. Q. 1842. I believe John was born in 1820 and Ann in 1813 (both in Luxulyan). Chidren born in Luxulyan : Joseph 1843, Emlyan 1845, Richard 1847, John? 1848 and William Sturtridge 1849. All migrated to Canada about 1852. More children born in Canada? Ann died 1862 and John in 1898 (both in Canada). Some Refs are : In the township of Peel, county of Wellington, Canada West, Feb. 10, the beloved wife of Mr JOHN GROSE, treasurer of the above township and formerly of Bodwen, Luxulyan, aged 42 years. Royal Cornwall Gazette 04/04/1862. In the township of Peel, county of Wellington, Canada West, Feb 17, RICHARD, son of Mr John Grose, aged 15 years. Royal Cornwall Gazette 04/04/1862. I do believe you will find an biographical record in "History Atlas of County of Wellington, 1906". I do not have a copy of that item but really should do. I believe the family were Bible Christians. Mike, Redruth. PS I also have your message to the Cornish Global Migration Programme at Murdoch House. Please regard the above as also answering that.