Dear List After several years of chasing my CRABB tree, I arrive at the doorstep of William Crabb who married Elizabeth Bunt in Cardinham in 1762. Their son John who married ( I believe) Mary Kelly in St Austell circa 1792 is my direct line. The problem now is William. There were no Crabb families in Braddock/Cardinham in 1762. There are no deaths of an adult William Crabb to be found in Braddock/Cardinham. But William and Elizabeth were married in Cardinham and raised their family in Braddock. Where did he come from? Where did he go? What was his age? Who were his parents? The marriage entry lists no parents for William and indicates he was living in the area at the time. I have no conclusive evidence of anything. None I am leaning to him being William Crabb of Lanlivery the son of John Crabb and Elizabeth Berry who were married in Fowey. They raised their family in Lanlivery then they too disappeared. William Crabb of Lanlivery was born in 1724 which would have made him 15 years older than Elizabeth Bunt. That concerns me a little. The only clues I have ( based on my limited genealogy experience) are two items. but I have no proof. 1. Lanlivery is a lot closer to Cardinham than other William Crabb’s who would be in the appropriate age bracket at that time. 2. When I examine the names of the children of William and Elizabeth, I find them to be the same names as the siblings of William of Lanlivery. Obviously that is not proof and gives me little satisfaction. The OPC’s have been very helpful with their efforts and I would like to thank them for their support but I still have no proof. My hope is that there may be someone on the list who has researched this family and can take me a step further. I would appreciate any help. Kindest regards, Gordon Crabb, USA

Dear Gordon: Actually there is a death for one William Crabb, buried at Cardinham 4 March 1763. Unfortunately, the register provides no other information, such as age or residence. If your man moved to Braddoc and raised a family there, this is obviously not the burial for the man married in 1762, but it is probably their infant son, William Crabbe, who was born a few weeks before their marriage and baptized at Cardinham 10 February 1761. He is identified in the baptismal register as "a base son of William Crabb and Elizabeth Bunt." Inasmuch as marriages usually occurred soon after publishing the banns, perhaps the inconveniently-timed birth of the child delayed the marriage and may explain the passage of nearly 3 months from banns to marriage. The burial of Elizabeth Crabb on 26 Dec 1819 at Cardinham, reported to be 82, might be the burial of Elizabeth (née Bunt) who married William Crabb. There are also several will for members of the Bunt family, including Elizabeth's father in 1763, at the Cornwall record office. These sometime provide a place of residence if Elizabeth is named as a beneficiary. There are also several wills for men named William Crabb at that time, but I do not see any for Broadoak. There is additional information about the married couple found in the banns register: "The banns of marriage between William Carb of the parish of Broadoak and Elizabeth Bunt of this parish of Cardinham were published according to act of Parliament in the Parish church of Cardinham without denial on Sunday the 21st day of December 1760 by Samuel Thomas, Vicar of St Neot, and the 28th day of December 1760 and the 4th day of January 1761 by Henry Bennett, rector." A subsequent note is made in the banns register confirming the marriage of William Crabb of the parish of Broadoak and Elizabeth Bunt of the parish of Cardinham, by banns on the 21st day of March 1761 at the church in Cardinham by H Bennett, rector. The groom signed the register as "William Crabb." Elizabeth Bunt signed by mark. The witnesses were J Bennett and Petherick Bunt. So at least at the time of their banns and marriage, William Crabb was living in Broadoak (Braddoc), and there are a number of baptisms at Braddoc for their children 1765-1781. They had a son John 1762, so that might be the name of his father. After 3 daughters, the next son in 1773 was also named William, an apparent recycling of the name after the child of 1761 died. The next son after him was named Thomas, so that might also be the name of the father of William Crabb. There are many trees on Ancestry that include Elizabeth Bunt, and of course, many of them are of questionable reliability and accuracy, some just copying bad data from another tree and perpetuating errors and myths. However, if you have not looked at them, there is certainly a possibility that someone may have found a valuable nugget that shows up on his tree and may actually be factual. I hope that this information may be of some help to you. David Coppin OPC Cardinham -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gordon via Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:09 AM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Fw: Can someone help please Dear List After several years of chasing my CRABB tree, I arrive at the doorstep of William Crabb who married Elizabeth Bunt in Cardinham in 1762. Their son John who married ( I believe) Mary Kelly in St Austell circa 1792 is my direct line. The problem now is William. There were no Crabb families in Braddock/Cardinham in 1762. There are no deaths of an adult William Crabb to be found in Braddock/Cardinham. But William and Elizabeth were married in Cardinham and raised their family in Braddock. Where did he come from? Where did he go? What was his age? Who were his parents? The marriage entry lists no parents for William and indicates he was living in the area at the time. I have no conclusive evidence of anything. None I am leaning to him being William Crabb of Lanlivery the son of John Crabb and Elizabeth Berry who were married in Fowey. They raised their family in Lanlivery then they too disappeared. William Crabb of Lanlivery was born in 1724 which would have made him 15 years older than Elizabeth Bunt. That concerns me a little. The only clues I have ( based on my limited genealogy experience) are two items. but I have no proof. 1. Lanlivery is a lot closer to Cardinham than other William Crabb’s who would be in the appropriate age bracket at that time. 2. When I examine the names of the children of William and Elizabeth, I find them to be the same names as the siblings of William of Lanlivery. Obviously that is not proof and gives me little satisfaction. The OPC’s have been very helpful with their efforts and I would like to thank them for their support but I still have no proof. My hope is that there may be someone on the list who has researched this family and can take me a step further. I would appreciate any help. Kindest regards, Gordon Crabb, USA