Hello list; William BROKENSHIRE married Jane EDYVEAN at St Wenn on Feb 2nd 180 with son William baptised on September 25th that year. I believe Jane to be daughter of Thomas Edyvean and Grace baptised on August 1st 1779 at St Minver. After Edward's death in 1812 Jane had a son Samuel in 1814, described as a "pauper of Belovely in this parish". She was buried at St Wenn on January 20th 1845 with her age given as 64, which seems near enough. I have the will of a Thomas Edyvean of St Minver proved 29th June 1776. his principal beneficiary and executor was his son Thomas. Thomas son of Thomas and Jane Edyvean was baptised at St Minver on May 6th 1750. Both Thomaseshad a daughter Phillipa. ihope I am right on this, but the first Thomas seems a bit wealthy compared to Jane's state 40 years later. Regarding Edward Brokenshire, I have never been sure of his parents. It seems likely they were richard Brokenshire and Joan Harper, baptised in1760. Can anyone confirm these for me, please? REgards, Horton B

Hi Horton, I think there may be 2 Jenepher/Jane BROKENSHIRE's in the same area during the same time period. The OPC database lists the baptism in Roche on February 6, 1814 of Samuel Brenton BROKENSHIRE, son of the widowed Jenepher BROKENSHIRE of Belovely, Roche. There is a bastardy bond for 1813 for the pending birth of Samuel Brenton BROCKENSHIRE in Roche. http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Records/parishes/Q-T/roche_bastardy_brokenshire_1813.php The father was Samuel BRENTON and his father was Henry. The bond states that Jane BROKENSHIRE was a single woman of St Wenn. I think it's odd that it doesn't say widow, if this was in fact your Jane, and that the child would be chargeable to the parish of Roche (overseers of the poor) when she was in and of St Wenn. She also would have been the mother of 10 year old William BROCKENSHAR (1803) and 7 year old John BROCKENSHIRE (1806), assuming they lived, the sons of Edward. The apprenticeship indentures for Roche do not include these two sons, so if Jane was a pauper, who was paying for them? Your Jane BROKENSHIRE (aged 65-69) and Samuel (age 25-29) were at Tregonetha, St Wenn in the 1841 census. Her occupation was listed as "independent" (which usually meant at least financially solvent, if not independently wealthy). Samuel was an agricultural labourer. His age at the census suggests a birth year between 1812 and 1816, so it certainly could be the same Samuel. Tregonetha is the residence given with the St Wenn burial on January 20, 1845 of Jane BROKENSHIRE, aged 64. Another Jane BROKENSHIRE was buried in Roche, also in 1845: on July 14, 1845, at the age of 65. Her residence was Church Town, Roche. In the 1841 census she appeared as the widowed Jane HIGGANS (aged 60-64) in Churchtown, Roche. With her was a 3 year old Jane BROKENSHIRE. That child was baptised in Roche on April 13, 1838, the daughter of William BROKENSHIRE (labourer, of Churchtown) and Ann. William BROKENSHIRE married Ann DYER in Roche on April 4, 1829. Their other children were Mary Ann (1830), John (1832), James (1834), Thomas (1834), William (1836), Ann (1837), Mark (1841),William Dyer (1843), all baptised in Roche. In the 1841 census, William (34) & Ann (37) were a couple of houses away from Jane HIGGANS in Churchtown, Roche with Mary Ann (11), John (9), James (7), William (5) and Mark (4 months). By the 1851 census, Jane BROCKENSHIRE was back with her parents and brothers. On February 15, 1833, a John HIGGANS of Roche, married Philippa BROKENSHIRE (of St Columb Major) at St Columb Major. On November 9, 1837, a Jane BROKENSHIRE alias HIGGINS of Churchtown, aged 19, was buried in Roche. I think she may have been Jane HIGGINS, baptised May 17, 1818, daughter of John & Jane, of Belovely Downs, Roche. That was the same place where Jane BROKENSHIRE was living when Samuel Brenton BROKENSHIRE was baptised in 1814. There seems to be some mixing and mingling of the surnames BROKENSHIRE and HIGGINS in Roche, and the bastardy bond (and baptismal note) suggest that the mother of Samuel Brenton BROKENSHIRE was impoverished. Your Jane was well off in 1841, and would have been in her late 30's or early 40's in 1814 when he was born. Unfortunately the 1841 census did not state the relationships between people in the household, but I suspect that your Jane was not Samuel's mother, but an aunt (natural or by marriage) or other relation, and that his mother was a considerably younger woman, perhaps a teenager, and that "widow" was a courtesy title. The only Samuel BRENTON (son of Henry) that I can find in St Wenn seems to have been born in the late 1790's, making him a teenager when his child was born in Roche. Hope this helps and doesn't add to the confusion! Joanne Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bolitho via" <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> To: "Cornish Email" <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 2:49 PM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Brokenshire and Edyvean of St Wenn > Hello list; William BROKENSHIRE married Jane EDYVEAN at St Wenn on Feb 2nd > 180 with son William baptised on September 25th that year. I believe Jane > to > be daughter of Thomas Edyvean and Grace baptised on August 1st 1779 at St > Minver. After Edward's death in 1812 Jane had a son Samuel in 1814, > described as a "pauper of Belovely in this parish". She was buried at St > Wenn on January 20th 1845 with her age given as 64, which seems near > enough. > I have the will of a Thomas Edyvean of St Minver proved 29th June 1776. > his > principal beneficiary and executor was his son Thomas. Thomas son of > Thomas > and Jane Edyvean was baptised at St Minver on May 6th 1750. Both > Thomaseshad > a daughter Phillipa. ihope I am right on this, but the first Thomas seems > a > bit wealthy compared to Jane's state 40 years later. > > Regarding Edward Brokenshire, I have never been sure of his parents. It > seems likely they were richard Brokenshire and Joan Harper, baptised > in1760. > Can anyone confirm these for me, please? REgards, Horton B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >