Good morning Peter I picked up on your E-mail about your Ackerman and Polkinghorne connections I have had a look through the various INDEXES that I am in the act of compiling for my book 'A Lasting Cornish Footprint in South Africa'. You may have seen the blurb that I put out requesting anecdotal notes and names which I may add. Anyway I have been able to link any of these Indexes with a number of POLKINGHORNE, Edward, John, son of John Trevenyan and Mary POLKINGHORNE, page 18POLKINGHORNE, James, son of John Trevenyan and Mary POLKINGHORNE, page 18POLKINGHORNE, John, son of John Trevenyan and Mary Polkinghorne, page 18POLKINGHORNE, John Trevenyan from Penzance with his wife Mary Ackerman and her brother John William Ackerman sailed under the Byrne Scheme aboard the British Tar landing at Durban in September 1850. He died on 28th September 1901 age 80 years, pages 17 & 18POLKINGHORNE, Trevenor, son of John Trevenyan and Mary Polkinghorne, page 18 These have been extracted from the chapter which deals with Richard Dawe's book CORNISH PIONEERS IN SOUTH AFRICA By Richard D Dawe[1] [1] Cornish Pioneers in South Africa by Richard D Dawe MA, Cornish Hillside Publications, St. Austell 1998, ISBN 1 900147 09 2 Thus, would you wish his name and that of his wife, any dates, occupations, profession, places and/or other anecdotal notes etc., to be included. In so doing the source of this material will be acknowledged as coming from yourself. The following is in Graham Dickason's book: POLKINGHORNE, E. At Randfontein between 1913 - 1920. POLKINGHORNE, John Trevenyan. Born Penzance 1822 - 27th September 1901 Pietermaritzburg. · Came to South Africa 1850 - Byrne Settler. · First President of Natal Legislative Councilas is TYACK, William Arthur Bickford. Born Penryn 22nd February 1860 - 23rd January 1891 Johannesburg (Br).The attachment is very much as below [did not know whether or not you could open in Vista] Kind regards, John John C CARBIS 'Him in Scarlet at Chelsea' ________________________________________________________________ The following item I think speaks for itself: A REQUEST FOR SURNAMES AND ANECDOTAL NOTES OFCORNISH PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE LEFT A LEGACY IN SOUTH AFRICA This project was prompted by the realisation that there are numerous sources for information and data on and about the Cornish in South Africa. The problem, if there is one, is that quite a lot of it is poorly indexed if indeed, indexed at all; thus, making the finding of particular individuals just that much more laborious. My intention is to provide a series of Indexes, with each Index being contained within its own source chapter. Where it is sensible, I have allowed two or three lines of anecdotal history or other comments relative to that individual. Thus, by reference to one or more chapters it is possible to have both a confirmation of an individual and the relevant sources from which that material had been gathered. So far, I have two thousand plus names listed in a number of chapters.The National Archives and Sue MacKay have granted permission to use the transcribed 'Log and Muster Roll of the 1820 Settlers'.Ann Dawe has given permission to abstract names etc., from Richards book 'Cornish Pioneers in South Africa'Gill Rifaat, has allowed me the use of her material in one chapter and, where others with only one or two items of interest, this are being incorporated within this chapter with suitable 'footnotes’ acknowledging the individual sources.Juliet JENKIN of the 'Cornish Global Migration Program' in Redruth has said that she would assist in compiling a list of migrants to South Africa; how extensive this will turn out to be I, as yet do not know, but whatever size, it will certainly be of interest.Bill CURNOW has posted a twelve page package of some hundred or so, CURNOW related persons.Other individuals who have sent in small family groups for inclusion Because there were a large number of Cornish, both volunteers from Cornwall and from South Africa itself, serving during the Boer War, there is scope to include brief details, such as the rather maligned General Buller, Emily Hobhouse and perhaps include one or two others of note; also subject matter such as 'phthisis'. That then is where I am proposing to go with this. I would be most grateful for any lists of names, small or large; single names, with or with out any anecdotal notes. Or alternatively contacts of any Cornish groups or persons who may have a vested interest in their Cornish/South African connection. To each group or single entry, there will be appended all due acknowledgement as to the source from which it was derived. Thanking you in anticipation.Kind regards, John_____________________________________ John C CARBIS 'Him in Scarlet at Chelsea' Researching anybody and everything to do and/or connected with the CARBIS surname in any form. The CARBIS history site; http://carbis-society.org GOON member 2772 CFHS member 7203 This communication, and the information it contains is: 1. Intended for the person[s] or organisation[s] named above and for no other persons or organisations; and 2. Protected by law. Unauthorised use, copying and/or disclosure of any and/or all of it may be unlawful. If this communication has been received in error, please contact me immediately by means of a return Email ______________________________________________________________ > From: peter@simbatech.net > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:30:52 -0400 > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton deaths, 10 Jan 1851 Mary Polkinghorne > After reading the link, which was very interesting I would hazard a guess that Mary Polkinghorne was born Mary Akerman who married John T(S)revenen Polkinghorne (I haven't looked at the entry yet to see which is correct) in Plymouth Mar/1859 > Marriages Mar 1849 > Akerman Mary Plymouth 9435 > Polkinghorne John Srevenen Plymouth 9435 > Polkinghorne John Trevenen Plymouth 9435 > Peter > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "judy olsen" <copywriter@tesco.net> > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:48 AM > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton deaths, 10 Jan 1851 Mary Polkinghorne > > googling turns up quite a lot including this, which mentions a JT > > Polkinghorne. It may also explain the confusion, as the emigration > > promoter Byrne used Australia prominently on his posters even when > > pushing Natal. > > Judy __________________________ > > http://www.shelaghspencer.org/joseph-byrne.php ------------------------------ > > On 16 Mar 2010, at 07:54, <jwmos99@msn.com> <jwmos99@msn.com> wrote: > >> I just checked from the original, and the paper definitely showed > >> the location as Port Natal, Australia. Does anyone have > >> connections to the J.T. Polkinghorne family from Penzance which > >> emigrated?? That might definitely solve the question, although > >> South Africa is probably the correct location. > >> Rgds, > >> Julia ______________________________________ > >> Peter wrote: > >>> I have to believe they actually meant Port Natal (Durban) South > >>> Africa > >>> Peter > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: > >>> To: ; > >>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:49 AM > >>> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 10 January 1851, BMDs > >>> WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER > >>> 10 January 1851 > >>> DEATHS > >>> At Port Natal, Australia, MARY, wife of Mr. J.T. POLKINGHORNE, > >>> grocer, late of Penzance. > >>> The end > >> ------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Hi John They're not my connections, Having lived there I just happen to know where Port Natal and the ref from the newspaper bmd's caught my eye. The I was just interested and follwed some links. You don't need to give me any acknowledgement for the info as it's all public records so you should be able to use it with no issue. Best of luck with the book. Here's a few other bits of info. I believe it possible that James Ackerman was born in Axemouth Devon in 1790 and married Elizabeth White. I was hoping to find where the Tre(a)venyan name came from as it's fairly unusual but could find no marriages anywhere that included it. JOHN POLKINGHORNE Spouse: ELIZABETH THOMAS Marriage: 30 APR 1820 Saint Hilary, Cornwall, England 1841 census Green Market, Madron Penzance POLKINGHORNE John M 50 Mercht Cornwall POLKINGHORNE Elizabeth F 45 Cornwall POLKINGHORNE John M 20 Cornwall POLKINGHORNE Mary F 15 Cornwall 1841 census Tuckingmill Illogan AKERMAN James M 50 Wesleyan Minister Outside Census County (1841) AKERMAN Elizabeth F 55 Outside Census County (1841) AKERMAN Maria F 20 Cornwall AKERMAN Eliza F 20 Cornwall AKERMAN Mary F 15 Cornwall BOTWELL Henry M 25 Wesleyan Minister Cornwall Deaths Dec 1847 Polkinghorne John Penzance 9 _14 As the expected page range is 101-124 this must be page 114 and the scan looks like it is a 1 Marriages Dec 1844 POLKINGHORNE John Travenen Penzance 9 237 Akerman Elizabeth Penzance 9 237 Marriages Sep 1853 Daves William Erastus Penzance 5c499 Polkinghorne Mary Thomas Penzance 5c499 1861 census 2 Tamer Villa Tormoham Torquay Devon DAVES William Head M M 33 Chemist Cornwall - Paul(Originally: Cornwall - Newlyn Paul) DAVES Mary T Wife M F 35 Cornwall - Penzance DAVES William Son - M 6 Devon - Torquay DAVES Mary Dau - F 5 Devon - Torquay DAVES Agnes Dau - F 2 Devon - Torquay DAVES Jane Dau - F 8m Devon - Torquay Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "John CARBIS" <john_carbis@hotmail.com> To: "Cornish GEN" <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton deaths, 10 Jan 1851 Mary Polkinghorne Good morning Peter I picked up on your E-mail about your Ackerman and Polkinghorne connections I have had a look through the various INDEXES that I am in the act of compiling for my book 'A Lasting Cornish Footprint in South Africa'. You may have seen the blurb that I put out requesting anecdotal notes and names which I may add. Anyway I have been able to link any of these Indexes with a number of POLKINGHORNE, Edward, John, son of John Trevenyan and Mary POLKINGHORNE, page 18POLKINGHORNE, James, son of John Trevenyan and Mary POLKINGHORNE, page 18POLKINGHORNE, John, son of John Trevenyan and Mary Polkinghorne, page 18POLKINGHORNE, John Trevenyan from Penzance with his wife Mary Ackerman and her brother John William Ackerman sailed under the Byrne Scheme aboard the British Tar landing at Durban in September 1850. He died on 28th September 1901 age 80 years, pages 17 & 18POLKINGHORNE, Trevenor, son of John Trevenyan and Mary Polkinghorne, page 18 These have been extracted from the chapter which deals with Richard Dawe's book CORNISH PIONEERS IN SOUTH AFRICA By Richard D Dawe[1] [1] Cornish Pioneers in South Africa by Richard D Dawe MA, Cornish Hillside Publications, St. Austell 1998, ISBN 1 900147 09 2 Thus, would you wish his name and that of his wife, any dates, occupations, profession, places and/or other anecdotal notes etc., to be included. In so doing the source of this material will be acknowledged as coming from yourself. The following is in Graham Dickason's book: POLKINGHORNE, E. At Randfontein between 1913 - 1920. POLKINGHORNE, John Trevenyan. Born Penzance 1822 - 27th September 1901 Pietermaritzburg. · Came to South Africa 1850 - Byrne Settler. · First President of Natal Legislative Councilas is TYACK, William Arthur Bickford. Born Penryn 22nd February 1860 - 23rd January 1891 Johannesburg (Br).The attachment is very much as below [did not know whether or not you could open in Vista] Kind regards, John John C CARBIS 'Him in Scarlet at Chelsea' ________________________________________________________________ The following item I think speaks for itself: A REQUEST FOR SURNAMES AND ANECDOTAL NOTES OFCORNISH PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE LEFT A LEGACY IN SOUTH AFRICA This project was prompted by the realisation that there are numerous sources for information and data on and about the Cornish in South Africa. The problem, if there is one, is that quite a lot of it is poorly indexed if indeed, indexed at all; thus, making the finding of particular individuals just that much more laborious. My intention is to provide a series of Indexes, with each Index being contained within its own source chapter. Where it is sensible, I have allowed two or three lines of anecdotal history or other comments relative to that individual. Thus, by reference to one or more chapters it is possible to have both a confirmation of an individual and the relevant sources from which that material had been gathered. So far, I have two thousand plus names listed in a number of chapters.The National Archives and Sue MacKay have granted permission to use the transcribed 'Log and Muster Roll of the 1820 Settlers'.Ann Dawe has given permission to abstract names etc., from Richards book 'Cornish Pioneers in South Africa'Gill Rifaat, has allowed me the use of her material in one chapter and, where others with only one or two items of interest, this are being incorporated within this chapter with suitable 'footnotes’ acknowledging the individual sources.Juliet JENKIN of the 'Cornish Global Migration Program' in Redruth has said that she would assist in compiling a list of migrants to South Africa; how extensive this will turn out to be I, as yet do not know, but whatever size, it will certainly be of interest.Bill CURNOW has posted a twelve page package of some hundred or so, CURNOW related persons.Other individuals who have sent in small family groups for inclusion Because there were a large number of Cornish, both volunteers from Cornwall and from South Africa itself, serving during the Boer War, there is scope to include brief details, such as the rather maligned General Buller, Emily Hobhouse and perhaps include one or two others of note; also subject matter such as 'phthisis'. That then is where I am proposing to go with this. I would be most grateful for any lists of names, small or large; single names, with or with out any anecdotal notes. Or alternatively contacts of any Cornish groups or persons who may have a vested interest in their Cornish/South African connection. To each group or single entry, there will be appended all due acknowledgement as to the source from which it was derived. Thanking you in anticipation.Kind regards, John_____________________________________ John C CARBIS 'Him in Scarlet at Chelsea' Researching anybody and everything to do and/or connected with the CARBIS surname in any form. The CARBIS history site; http://carbis-society.org GOON member 2772 CFHS member 7203 This communication, and the information it contains is: 1. Intended for the person[s] or organisation[s] named above and for no other persons or organisations; and 2. Protected by law. Unauthorised use, copying and/or disclosure of any and/or all of it may be unlawful. If this communication has been received in error, please contact me immediately by means of a return Email ______________________________________________________________ > From: peter@simbatech.net > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:30:52 -0400 > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton deaths, 10 Jan 1851 Mary > Polkinghorne > After reading the link, which was very interesting I would hazard a guess > that Mary Polkinghorne was born Mary Akerman who married John T(S)revenen > Polkinghorne (I haven't looked at the entry yet to see which is correct) > in Plymouth Mar/1859 > Marriages Mar 1849 > Akerman Mary Plymouth 9435 > Polkinghorne John Srevenen Plymouth 9435 > Polkinghorne John Trevenen Plymouth 9435 > Peter > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "judy olsen" <copywriter@tesco.net> > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:48 AM > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton deaths, 10 Jan 1851 Mary > Polkinghorne > > googling turns up quite a lot including this, which mentions a JT > > Polkinghorne. It may also explain the confusion, as the emigration > > promoter Byrne used Australia prominently on his posters even when > > pushing Natal. > > Judy __________________________ > > http://www.shelaghspencer.org/joseph-byrne.php ------------------------------ > > On 16 Mar 2010, at 07:54, <jwmos99@msn.com> <jwmos99@msn.com> wrote: > >> I just checked from the original, and the paper definitely showed > >> the location as Port Natal, Australia. Does anyone have > >> connections to the J.T. Polkinghorne family from Penzance which > >> emigrated?? That might definitely solve the question, although > >> South Africa is probably the correct location. > >> Rgds, > >> Julia ______________________________________ > >> Peter wrote: > >>> I have to believe they actually meant Port Natal (Durban) South > >>> Africa > >>> Peter > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: > >>> To: ; > >>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:49 AM > >>> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 10 January 1851, BMDs > >>> WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER > >>> 10 January 1851 > >>> DEATHS > >>> At Port Natal, Australia, MARY, wife of Mr. J.T. POLKINGHORNE, > >>> grocer, late of Penzance. > >>> The end > >> ------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message