I think this illustrates a problem we all have. We grasp these little snippets of information recorded at ten year intervals - and trade directories entries if we're lucky. Even though we know that the census only records the situation on the night and that directories can be well out of date, it's very hard not to form a picture that we only revise when we get new 'facts'. It's possible that Jane and William had separated - and equally likely that they were both away from the marital home on census night 1861. It could be there was only a bed for Jane, or that the boarding house only had a small room - or maybe William didn't get on with his son in law and made an excuse about business keeping him away. Perhaps William's business was doing so well that he left a manager in charge... I'm sure more facts will emerge about this family. The mid 19thC was a period of economic growth and tradesmen provided for their retirement and their families through saving. In the absence of the financial products we have today that very often meant buying houses. It may be that a will or the voters' roll will reveal property interests that needed to be taken care of. Judy On 18 Mar 2010, at 19:00, PJN wrote: > You have just provided a gem ....thank you so much! > William Hodges Nicholls was of course a confectioner - we have from > the 1841 > census in Kenwyn where he was living with his wife and children; > 1851 he is > missing; 1861 he is boarding in the area - while his wife Jane nee > Rundle > was living with their daughter Jane, wife of George May - no > reference to > her thereafter, which suggests she died...and George and Jane May > emigrated > to Australia in 1869 on the Cadduceus [along with Thomas Odgers > Nicholls and > his wife Mary Courtis Searle]; 1871 William is boarding [possibly > with his > sister and her husband] in Truro, and died soon after. > I would be so grateful for a reference to the 1851 census / or even > a copy > if you have it.... > I did find WHN listed in the Birmingham Trade Directory as a > confectioner > 1855 Section B Page 430...seems that Mr N and Mrs N may have been > separated....

Thank you Judy, Appreciate your thoughts muchly ...and of course you are correct in your thinking....and possibilities... Our Nicholls, unlike many of the Cornish Nicholls, have their roots in Somerset - still much work to be done on this Our Nicholls also have a nomadic gene.....just leaving us hints where they have been, without a big footprint!!! Best wishes Pamela On 19 March 2010 10:29, judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: > I think this illustrates a problem we all have. We grasp these little > snippets of information recorded at ten year intervals - and trade > directories entries if we're lucky. Even though we know that the > census only records the situation on the night and that directories > can be well out of date, it's very hard not to form a picture that we > only revise when we get new 'facts'. It's possible that Jane and > William had separated - and equally likely that they were both away > from the marital home on census night 1861. It could be there was > only a bed for Jane, or that the boarding house only had a small room > - or maybe William didn't get on with his son in law and made an > excuse about business keeping him away. Perhaps William's business > was doing so well that he left a manager in charge... > > I'm sure more facts will emerge about this family. The mid 19thC was > a period of economic growth and tradesmen provided for their > retirement and their families through saving. In the absence of the > financial products we have today that very often meant buying houses. > It may be that a will or the voters' roll will reveal property > interests that needed to be taken care of. > > > Judy > > > > > On 18 Mar 2010, at 19:00, PJN wrote: > > > You have just provided a gem ....thank you so much! > > William Hodges Nicholls was of course a confectioner - we have from > > the 1841 > > census in Kenwyn where he was living with his wife and children; > > 1851 he is > > missing; 1861 he is boarding in the area - while his wife Jane nee > > Rundle > > was living with their daughter Jane, wife of George May - no > > reference to > > her thereafter, which suggests she died...and George and Jane May > > emigrated > > to Australia in 1869 on the Cadduceus [along with Thomas Odgers > > Nicholls and > > his wife Mary Courtis Searle]; 1871 William is boarding [possibly > > with his > > sister and her husband] in Truro, and died soon after. > > I would be so grateful for a reference to the 1851 census / or even > > a copy > > if you have it.... > > I did find WHN listed in the Birmingham Trade Directory as a > > confectioner > > 1855 Section B Page 430...seems that Mr N and Mrs N may have been > > separated.... > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Pamela in Victoria, Australia

Just a thought, I read somewhere recently that Nicholls is a Roma surname. Peter -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PJN Sent: Friday, 19 March 2010 11:25 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] MAY Family of Botus Fleming and Landulph Thank you Judy, Appreciate your thoughts muchly ...and of course you are correct in your thinking....and possibilities... Our Nicholls, unlike many of the Cornish Nicholls, have their roots in Somerset - still much work to be done on this Our Nicholls also have a nomadic gene.....just leaving us hints where they have been, without a big footprint!!! Best wishes Pamela On 19 March 2010 10:29, judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: > I think this illustrates a problem we all have. We grasp these little > snippets of information recorded at ten year intervals - and trade > directories entries if we're lucky. Even though we know that the > census only records the situation on the night and that directories > can be well out of date, it's very hard not to form a picture that we > only revise when we get new 'facts'. It's possible that Jane and > William had separated - and equally likely that they were both away > from the marital home on census night 1861. It could be there was > only a bed for Jane, or that the boarding house only had a small room > - or maybe William didn't get on with his son in law and made an > excuse about business keeping him away. Perhaps William's business > was doing so well that he left a manager in charge... > > I'm sure more facts will emerge about this family. The mid 19thC was > a period of economic growth and tradesmen provided for their > retirement and their families through saving. In the absence of the > financial products we have today that very often meant buying houses. > It may be that a will or the voters' roll will reveal property > interests that needed to be taken care of. > > > Judy > > > > > On 18 Mar 2010, at 19:00, PJN wrote: > > > You have just provided a gem ....thank you so much! > > William Hodges Nicholls was of course a confectioner - we have from > > the 1841 > > census in Kenwyn where he was living with his wife and children; > > 1851 he is > > missing; 1861 he is boarding in the area - while his wife Jane nee > > Rundle > > was living with their daughter Jane, wife of George May - no > > reference to > > her thereafter, which suggests she died...and George and Jane May > > emigrated > > to Australia in 1869 on the Cadduceus [along with Thomas Odgers > > Nicholls and > > his wife Mary Courtis Searle]; 1871 William is boarding [possibly > > with his > > sister and her husband] in Truro, and died soon after. > > I would be so grateful for a reference to the 1851 census / or even > > a copy > > if you have it.... > > I did find WHN listed in the Birmingham Trade Directory as a > > confectioner > > 1855 Section B Page 430...seems that Mr N and Mrs N may have been > > separated.... > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Pamela in Victoria, Australia ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message