Hi Jan, I think I forgot to mention I had looked for a Marriage listed on Cornwall OPC and there's it's mentioned but no parishes are mentioned or any particulars mentioned at all. I had also checked for Banns, but no reference at all to the marriage on that index. I think I'd fully covered and exhausted all the avenues I could think of. Thanks for your reply, I know only to well how people get upset when you try to point out obvious errors in their trees. I don't because usually their trying to help you from not wasting time researching the wrong people. For example, I was contacted a couple of years ago by a lady about my mother's father here in Australia. She said he was a triplet and she was descended from his brother Alexander John ROSE born 1878. I told her the records at first glance appear to state there was 3 boys. But my uncle's and aunt and mother all said their father was only a twin. It puzzled me for years, why 3 registrations but only twins. I could find info on pop's and his twin William's lives, but nothing at all on Alexander John ROSE. No death registration could be found for Alexander John. Once the last uncle passed away I purchased the certificates. It took me awhile to work it out. Alexander & William's had civil registration numbers but the certificate for my grandfather had a volume number. William Fredrick ROSE 9 Oct 1878 Elder Born, Alexander John 9 Oct 1878 Younger Born, neither had reference to their baptisms. Pop's certificate had John Christopher ROSE born 9 Oct 1878 baptised 9 Dec 1878 no reference to middle born. My great-grandfather had registered William and Alexander, but their first born son, who they called Charles or Charlie proper name was Alexander Charles. I think when he was registered the names got reversed as his father was Charles and the first born male is usually named after the father. When they had the 2nd twin baptised they changed his name from the civil registration of Alexander John to baptizing him John Christopher after his maternal grandfather, because having the volume number and reference to the date of baptism on the certificate told me it was from his baptism, because civil registration can in in NSW in March 1856, so it should have had a registration number. The officiating minister recorded the baptism and sent it through to the records office, but must have forgot to mention the birth had been registered as Alexander John, but amended to John Christopher at the baptism. I've sent her every document I have in proof, but she still to this day won't believe me, even though the only mention of Alexander John ROSE is his Birth Certificate, no documents on his life, no documents of his death or burial. I don't think she is related to us, but if she is I've told her the person she is probably looking for is Alexander Charles ROSE, their older brother, born 9 Aug 1872. That was one problem in my tree that took me quite a few years to get to the bottom of. Happy Days, John Newcastle NSW Australia ------------------------------------------------- From: "Jan" <jangmc@bigpond.com> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:40 PM To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] WILLIAM PRYN/PRYNN > Hi John, > > How about Wm PRINN in St Veep in 1716, it's only 3.2 miles away, according > to Parloc? There seems to be a whole lot of PRINN, PRYNNs etc there, and > there could be others elsewhere, too, as not everything is on the IGI. You > can download Parloc free...it's a parish locator. > > I'm a bit mystified about not "opening up the individual person". How > else > do you find the parents? > > And any reliance on just the IGI and/or Ancestry, no matter how widely > accepted, is prone to mistakes like this one...it is only an index. EG, > all > the online trees of one of my families have ancestors based on a > particular > marriage where people have followed the wife's name back, as in the index, > but the actual Parish marriage record shows that she was a widow. Tracing > back her 1st marriage, the death of her first husband, etc, gives quite a > different ancestry, and one confirmed by her maiden name being used as a > second name in the family for generations. But I'm just a voice in the > wilderness in trying to correct it, and sometimes you can even be > unpopular! > > Who knows, the original marriage record of William PRYNN and Joan DADDOW > might even say where he was from, tho from memory it might be a bit early > for that. > > Good luck, and, pain tho it is, never rely on someone else's research > unless > they have all their sources documented. Even then I try to verify it. > Might > be why my research has taken decades!! > > Jan > South Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Griffiths > Sent: Monday, 19 April 2010 1:19 PM > To: CORNISH-GEN > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] WILLIAM PRYN/PRYNN > > Hi Lister, > > I have a problem with my PRYNN family line. It's been widely accepted by > everyone that I've had contact with and on Ancestry, that William PRYNN > baptised 18 Mar 1716 at Tywardreath > (St. Andrew's? ) married Joan DADDOW at Tywardreath (St. Andrew's) on 3 > Nov > 1736. > > I, like many people when reading the IGI don't always open up each > individual person, last night I opened up William PRYNN 1716 and he died > on > 4 Jul 1719 at Tywardreath. So obviously he can't be the one who married > Joan > DADDOW. > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Thanks John. I wrote another post before, apologizing for not recognizing your expertise, but for some reason it was rejected, and I haven't got time to find out why. The more frivolous one about Elijah Teague worked, so I will try this again. You certainly persisted with the ROSE saga. I hope you find William PRYNN. Jan South Australia