I'm trying to help out my cousin in New Zealand whose gggf was John RUNDLE (1835-1896). John, a tin miner, emigrated from England to Australia about 1855, married in 1859 in Victoria, AU & died 1896 also in Victoria. The Australian certificates helpfully show that his parents were John (also a miner) & Elizabeth (formerly HAWKE), who, according to the IGI, married 11 Oct 1828 in St Mewan, Cornwall. Armed with this info, it should have been easy enough to find the family in the 1851 English census, but there are 2 or even 3 possible John RUNDLE-son-of-John-&-Elizabeth's in the frame. My cousin has also scoured shipping lists to trace his voyage to AU, and the one that stands out (from www.theshipslist.com) has John - married to a Sarah RODDA - on the Hoogly which arrived (ex Plymouth, Devon) in Adelaide, South Australia 19 Apr 1855. This is a bit of a surprise as according to his marriage certificate of 1859 in Victoria, John was a bachelor. The marriage of John RUNDLE to Sarah RODDA took place in late 1854 in St Austell, but even getting hold of the marriage certificate is not going to prove he's the 'right' John RUNDLE, even if it says that his father's name was John. My cousin has just traced a death record for Sarah in Adelaide in Sep 1855, sadly with a 5 week old son John, so it looks like John (the father) "reverted" to bachelor-hood, but there's still some uncertainty. Has anyone got parish records for the marriage in St Austell that may show the mother's name + any other details? Or any other ideas? Thanks Dick London, UK

Hi Dick, The marriage of John RUNDLE and Sarah RODDA was registered in the December quarter of 1854, registration district of St Austell, Vol. 5c, page 254. It did not necessarily take place IN St. Austell, as the registration district covered other parishes as well. If I were you, I'd order the marriage certificate anyway. That'll give you the name and occupation of his father, and AND potentially other family members who were witnesses to the marriage, another way of finding the right people. Joanne Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Coleman" <dickcoleman@btinternet.com> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com>; <CORNWALL-AUSTRALIA@rootsweb.com>; <RUNDLE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:52 PM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] John RUNDLE/Sarah RODDA marriage 1854 St Austell > I'm trying to help out my cousin in New Zealand whose gggf was John RUNDLE > (1835-1896). John, a tin miner, emigrated from England to Australia about > 1855, married in 1859 in Victoria, AU & died 1896 also in Victoria. The > Australian certificates helpfully show that his parents were John (also a > miner) & Elizabeth (formerly HAWKE), who, according to the IGI, married 11 > Oct 1828 in St Mewan, Cornwall. > > Armed with this info, it should have been easy enough to find the family > in the 1851 English census, but there are 2 or even 3 possible John > RUNDLE-son-of-John-&-Elizabeth's in the frame. My cousin has also scoured > shipping lists to trace his voyage to AU, and the one that stands out > (from www.theshipslist.com) has John - married to a Sarah RODDA - on the > Hoogly which arrived (ex Plymouth, Devon) in Adelaide, South Australia 19 > Apr 1855. This is a bit of a surprise as according to his marriage > certificate of 1859 in Victoria, John was a bachelor. The marriage of John > RUNDLE to Sarah RODDA took place in late 1854 in St Austell, but even > getting hold of the marriage certificate is not going to prove he's the > 'right' John RUNDLE, even if it says that his father's name was John. > > My cousin has just traced a death record for Sarah in Adelaide in Sep > 1855, sadly with a 5 week old son John, so it looks like John (the father) > "reverted" to bachelor-hood, but there's still some uncertainty. > > Has anyone got parish records for the marriage in St Austell that may show > the mother's name + any other details? Or any other ideas? > > Thanks > > Dick > London, UK > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Dick, I have Sarah RODDA and her family and a note that they emigrated to Australia in 1855. Sarah was born in St Wenn to Thomas Rodda and Mary Brenton married 21 Mar 1833 in St Wenn as far as I am aware. I have no note that she married John RUNDLE and the Holy Trinity Marriage register which can be seen on the OPC for St Austell's website only has a marriage for a David Rundle and that is not to a sarah. Take a look. Regards, Susan in Wadebridge CFHS 9508 OPC for St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan & St Columb Major Parish Reconstruction up to 1891 on St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan, Padstow, St Issey, Little Petherick, St Wenn, Withiel, Egloshayle, St Breock, St Columb Major & Minor, Newlyn East, St Kew, St Mabyn & St Tudy http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2836 - Release Date: 04/26/10 07:31:00

Thanks to those who've responded, though I'm still hoping (!) that someone may be able to look up the PR for this marriage in the Dec qtr 1854 St Austell district. Probably in Charlestown, St Austell, which is where Sarah (daughter of Thomas & Mary Rodda) & family lived in 1851. I've tried the Cornwall OPC site, no record there. Thanks in hope Dick I'm trying to help out my cousin in New Zealand whose gggf was John RUNDLE (1835-1896). John, a tin miner, emigrated from England to Australia about 1855, married in 1859 in Victoria, AU & died 1896 also in Victoria. The Australian certificates helpfully show that his parents were John (also a miner) & Elizabeth (formerly HAWKE), who, according to the IGI, married 11 Oct 1828 in St Mewan, Cornwall. Armed with this info, it should have been easy enough to find the family in the 1851 English census, but there are 2 or even 3 possible John RUNDLE-son-of-John-&-Elizabeth's in the frame. My cousin has also scoured shipping lists to trace his voyage to AU, and the one that stands out (from www.theshipslist.com) has John - married to a Sarah RODDA - on the Hoogly which arrived (ex Plymouth, Devon) in Adelaide, South Australia 19 Apr 1855. This is a bit of a surprise as according to his marriage certificate of 1859 in Victoria, John was a bachelor. The marriage of John RUNDLE to Sarah RODDA took place in late 1854 in St Austell, but even getting hold of the marriage certificate is not going to prove he's the 'right' John RUNDLE, even if it says that his father's name was John. My cousin has just traced a death record for Sarah in Adelaide in Sep 1855, sadly with a 5 week old son John, so it looks like John (the father) "reverted" to bachelor-hood, but there's still some uncertainty. Has anyone got parish records for the marriage in St Austell that may show the mother's name + any other details? Or any other ideas? Thanks Dick London, UK

Dear Dick, I think if it was Charlestown it would be in Julia Mosman's transcriptions on her own website which can be reached through the OPC St Austell page. I did have a quick look for you but it does not seem to be there. Looks like it may have been a Civil one so you will have to buy the certificate!! You really should visit Julia's wonderful site though as there are other RODDA girls married in that year in Charlestown. Regards, Susan in Wadebridge CFHS 9508 OPC for St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan & St Columb Major Parish Reconstruction up to 1891 on St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan, Padstow, St Issey, Little Petherick, St Wenn, Withiel, Egloshayle, St Breock, St Columb Major & Minor, Newlyn East, St Kew, St Mabyn & St Tudy http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Coleman" <dickcoleman@btinternet.com> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] John RUNDLE/Sarah RODDA marriage 1854 St Austell > Thanks to those who've responded, though I'm still hoping (!) that someone > may be able to look up the PR for this marriage in the Dec qtr 1854 St > Austell district. Probably in Charlestown, St Austell, which is where > Sarah (daughter of Thomas & Mary Rodda) & family lived in 1851. I've tried > the Cornwall OPC site, no record there. > > Thanks in hope > Dick No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2844 - Release Date: 04/30/10 07:27:00