Hi Anne The Carnyorth family is the family of Richard NANKERVIS and Mary Jane GRENFELL nee OLIVER who married on 14 May 1868 at Pendeen. The 1891 census shows Mary Jane living at Carnyorth with husband, John MORRIS; her two sons, Richard NANKERVIS and George Henry NANKERVIS; and her father, George OLIVER. There is no Minnie, although there is a Nannie TREZISE, aged 11, born St Just, shown as the grand-daughter of John MORRIS. There is a marriage for a Mary Jane OLIVER and John Wallace MORRIS in 1889. There is also a death for a Richard NANKERVIS of Carnyorth in 1886. Regards Bob Bolitho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Brooks" <anbrooks@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 5:27 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just Wondering if anyone has connections to the family of Richard NANKERVIS living in St Just in 1881 census. I am trying to find the origins of a Minnie NANKERVIS, born around 1880, who married Frank HALL (born 1870 in St. Just). They married around 1905 and lived in Michigan. Minnie born only "in England" in censuses after she married. Richard NANKERVIS Head M Male 44 Trewellard, Cornwall, England Tin Miner Mary Jane NANKERVIS Wife M Female 38 Sancreed, Cornwall, England Richard NANKERVIS Son U Female 10 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Scholar George Hy. NANKERVIS Son U Male 7 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Scholar Mennie NANKERVIS Daur U Female 2 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Source Information: Dwelling Carnyorth Town There is another Minnie NANKERVIS in 1881, living in Cumberland County, the dau. of Richard, born in St. Just. Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John J. D. NANKERVIS Head M Male 30 St Just, Cornwall, England Iron Miner Ellen J. NANKERVIS Wife M Female 21 Llansileian, Anglesey, Wales Sarah A. NANKERVIS Daur Female 1 Millom, Cumberland, England Minnie NANKERVIS Daur Female 1 m Millom, Cumberland, England Source Information: Dwelling 15 Hope St Census Place Millom, Cumberland, England Hoping someone might help me eliminate one of these. Anne -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1227 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne & Bob, The 1891 household of John MORRIS and family is quite complicated. These folks really spun a complicated web. Let me propose a theory as to who they all were in hope that somebody will be able to fill in the gaps and correct any problems. This is the Carnyorth Cottage household as it appears in the 1891 Census: John MORRIS, head, married, 30, tin & copper miner, born Gulval Mary J. MORRIS, wife, married, 40, born Sancreed Richard NANKERVIS, stepson, single, 19, tin & copper miner, born St. Just George H. NANKERVIS, stepson, single, 17, tin & copper miner, born St. Just Nannie TREZISE, granddaughter, single, 11, scholar, born St. Just William CARBIS, grandson, single, 8, scholar, born St. Just George OLIVER, father-in-law, widower, 71, retired tin miner, born St. Just John CARBIS, boarder, single, 19, blacksmith, born St. Just I believe that all of these people, including the boarder, are connected. Let's look at them one at a time beginning with the one with the most intricate life story: (1) Mary J. MORRIS. I believe she was Mary Jane OLIVER, bap. 24 Jul 1842 Sancreed, d/o George Henry OLIVER & Jane MATTHEWS. Mary Jane married James GRENFELL (bap. 17 Sep 1837 St. Just, s/o William GRENFELL & Jane WALLS) at Pendeen on 17 Nov 1860. They had a daughter Amelia J. GRENFELL who was born in 1861. James GRENFELL of Trewellard died at age 30 and was buried at Pendeen on 23 Sep 1866. Next... Mary Jane GRENFELL (nee OLIVER) married Richard NANKERVIS (bap. 17 Jun 1838 St. Just, s/o William NANKERVIS & Jane Lanyon) at Pendeen on 14 May 1868. They had at least four children: Mary Elizabeth (1868), Richard (1870), George Henry (1880), and Annie (1885). Richard NANKERVIS of Carnyorth died and was buried at Pendeen on 01 Dec 1886; his age was given as 45, but 48 would be closer to the mark. Next... Mary Jane married John MORRIS. The on line civil BMDs index shows that the marriage of John Wallace MORRIS to Mary Jane OLIVER (sic) was registered at Penzance during 4Q1889. A check of the actual marriage registration would be needed to confirm all the facts, but other evidence suggests that this is the couple who appeared at Carnyorth Cottage at the 1891 Census. It is curious that Mary Jane used her birth surname when the marriage was registered. (2) John MORRIS. His name was given as John Wallace MORRIS in the marriage registration mentioned above. I believe that he was the son of John Wallis MORRIS (or MORRISH) & Alice EDWARDS and that he was baptized at Gulval on 05 Jun 1861. His name was given simply as John MORRIS at his baptism, but it is no surprise that he would have emulated his father by using WALLIS or WALLACE as a middle name. (3) Stepson Richard NANKERVIS. He was the son of Mary Jane by her second marriage. (4) Stepson George H. NANKERVIS. He was the son of Mary Jane by her second marriage. (5) Granddaughter Nannie TREZISE. She is the one member of the cast whose identity is still murky. It is clear that household head John MORRIS was too young to be a grandfather, so the relationship is more likely to his wife by one of her earlier marriages. It is plausible that she was the child, either legitimate or not, of Amelia J. GRENFELL, Mary Jane's daughter by her first marriage. Any help in pinning down her identity would be very welcome indeed. (6) Grandson William CARBIS. It is quite probable that he was Mary Jane's grandson, since her daughter Mary Elizabeth NANKERVIS (by the second marriage) married William James CARBIS (bap. 30 Sep 1869 Pendeen, s/o James Tregear CARBIS & Jane SYMONS) at Pendeen on 16 Oct 1886. If William's 1891 age (8) was correctly stated and if his mother was indeed Mary Elizabeth, then he was certainly born before the 1886 marriage. (7) Father-in-law George OLIVER. Nothing more need be said about George, who was indeed the father of Mary Jane. (8) Boarder John CARBIS. I believe that John CARBIS was the brother of William James CARBIS and, therefore, the uncle of grandson William CARBIS. The CARBIS story involves another family with a complicated set of relationships that can best be explained in the context of the following household that appeared in the 1881 Census at Boat Mans Row, St. Just in Penwith - James CARBIS, head, widower, 52, stone breaker (road labourer), born St. Buryan Jane KESSEL, housekeeper, widow, 46, born Gulval Henry KESSEL, son, unmarried, 20, tin & copper miner, born Penzance William CARBIS, son, 12, scholar, born St. Just John CARBIS, son 10, scholar, born St. Just James Tregear CARBIS (bap. 29 Jan 1826 St. Buryan, s/o Richard CARBIS & Elizabeth TREGEAR) married Margaret WALLIS (bap. 30 Jun 1822 St. Just, d/o Richard WALLIS & Catherine ROWE) at St. Buryan on 24 Nov 1849. They had at least 7 children, none of whom were part of the 1881 household shown above. Margaret died at Trewellard, St. Just and was buried at Pendeen on 26 Apr 1865. Jane SYMONS (b.ca.1836 Gulval, d/o John Hockin SYMONS & Jane TREMBATH) married George Henry KESSELL, with the event registered at Penzance during 3Q1856. George & Jane had at least four children: George Henry (1858), Mary Jane (ca.1867), William (ca.1868), and John S. (1870), and it was likely the first of those children who was with his mother in the CARBIS household at the 1881 Census. George Henry KESSELL, Jane's husband, was apparently a "traveling man", since he was not with his wife and children at the 1861 or 1871 Census. She counted herself as married (not widowed) in 1871, but George Henry was out of the picture at some point during the following decade. Widow Jane SYMONS was clearly more than a housekeeper for widower James CARBIS. They had established a close relationship resulting in the birth of two sons, William CARBIS (who married Mary Elizabeth NANKERVIS) and John Symons CARBIS (the boarder in the John MORRIS 1891 household at Carnyorth Cottage). My apologies for the length of this note! It is a story that can't be told briefly. Bill Curnow Port Charlotte, FL, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Bolitho" <bbolitho@tpg.com.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just > Hi Anne > > The Carnyorth family is the family of Richard NANKERVIS and Mary Jane > GRENFELL nee OLIVER who married on 14 May 1868 at Pendeen. > > The 1891 census shows Mary Jane living at Carnyorth with husband, John > MORRIS; her two sons, Richard NANKERVIS and George Henry NANKERVIS; > and her father, George OLIVER. There is no Minnie, although there is a > Nannie TREZISE, aged 11, born St Just, shown as the grand-daughter of > John MORRIS. > > There is a marriage for a Mary Jane OLIVER and John Wallace MORRIS in > 1889. There is also a death for a Richard NANKERVIS of Carnyorth in > 1886. > > Regards > Bob Bolitho > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Brooks" <anbrooks@nbnet.nb.ca> > To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 5:27 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just > > > Wondering if anyone has connections to the family of Richard NANKERVIS > living in St Just in 1881 census. > > I am trying to find the origins of a Minnie NANKERVIS, born around > 1880, who > married Frank HALL (born 1870 in St. Just). They married around 1905 > and > lived in Michigan. Minnie born only "in England" in censuses after she > married. > > Richard NANKERVIS Head M Male 44 Trewellard, Cornwall, England Tin > Miner > > Mary Jane NANKERVIS Wife M Female 38 Sancreed, Cornwall, England > > Richard NANKERVIS Son U Female 10 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Scholar > > George Hy. NANKERVIS Son U Male 7 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Scholar > > Mennie NANKERVIS Daur U Female 2 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England > > Source Information: > > Dwelling Carnyorth Town > > > > There is another Minnie NANKERVIS in 1881, living in Cumberland > County, the > dau. of Richard, born in St. Just. > > Household: > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation > Disability > > John J. D. NANKERVIS Head M Male 30 St Just, Cornwall, England Iron > Miner > > Ellen J. NANKERVIS Wife M Female 21 Llansileian, Anglesey, Wales > > Sarah A. NANKERVIS Daur Female 1 Millom, Cumberland, England > > Minnie NANKERVIS Daur Female 1 m Millom, Cumberland, England > > Source Information: > > Dwelling 15 Hope St > > Census Place Millom, Cumberland, England > > Hoping someone might help me eliminate one of these. > > Anne > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 1227 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >