I am researching my Great Grandfather John TREMAIN(E). He was tried at Bodmin Cornwall on 22 March 1843 for stealing some items of apparel and was sentenced to 14 years imprisonment. Another prior conviction was made against him, but details are not known. In 1848 he was granted "Ticket of Leave" status and exiled to Van Diemens Land (Tasmania) Australia on the ship "Mount Stewart Elphinstone". He arrived in Hobart Tasmania on 18 May 1848. If possible I would be interested to know his age when convicted and his place of residence in Cornwall together with any other information on him if available. Perhaps Bodmin Gaol and/or Trial Records could be helpful if they could be accessed. I would be very grateful if anyone may be able to give advice and help me in this matter. Yours Sincerely, Ruth Briant, 141 Moroney Street, BAIRNSDALE, Victoria.3875, Australia.

The Gaol records from 1842-1845 appear to be lost, as those years are skipped in the CD transcriptions of Gaol records. However, there is some information in the West Briton Newspaper transcriptions on the Cornwall OPC site. The newspaper of Friday, 31 March 1843 has the following report: JOHN TREMAIN, 18, was charged with stealing a pair of trowsers, a pair of boots, a pair of half boots, and a hat, the property of Nicholas MAY, of the parish of St. Austell. Mr. May stated that the prisoner was in his service, and left on the 21st instant. After he had gone, prosecutor missed the things mentioned in the indictment, and sent John HOARE after him, who apprehended the prisoner with the things in his hand. Guilty. A former conviction having been proved, in which the prisoner was sentenced to six months' hard labour, the Court now sentenced him to Fourteen Years' Transportation. This does give you his age (so he was born about 1825 if he reported his age correctly), and tells you that the offense occurred in St Austell. It would be reasonable to assume that he lived in St Austell or one of the neighboring parishes. Check the 1841 census for someone about 16 (maybe rounded down to 15, as was the custom), and between the OPC site and Julia Mosman's incredible site on St Austell and the surrounding area, you may well find a great deal of information. David Coppin OPC Cardinham and St Winnow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Briant" <abri9889@bigpond.net.au> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:58 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Family Research - John Tremain(e) > > I am researching my Great Grandfather John TREMAIN(E). He was tried at > Bodmin Cornwall on 22 March 1843 for stealing some items of apparel and > was sentenced to 14 years imprisonment. Another prior conviction was made > against him, but details are not known. In 1848 he was granted "Ticket of > Leave" status and exiled to Van Diemens Land (Tasmania) Australia on the > ship "Mount Stewart Elphinstone". He arrived in Hobart Tasmania on 18 May > 1848. > > If possible I would be interested to know his age when convicted and his > place of residence in Cornwall together with any other information on him > if available. Perhaps Bodmin Gaol and/or Trial Records could be helpful if > they could be accessed. I would be very grateful if anyone may be able to > give advice and help me in this matter. > > Yours Sincerely, > Ruth Briant, > 141 Moroney Street, BAIRNSDALE, Victoria.3875, Australia. > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

One more detail: There is a record of that found on Ancestry. He was sentenced at the county sessions on 19 Oct 1841 to 6 months, also for larceny. He also reported his age as 18 on that occasion. I do not find his name in the Bodmin Gaol records for 1841. David Coppin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Briant" <abri9889@bigpond.net.au> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:58 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Family Research - John Tremain(e) . Another prior conviction was made against him, but details are not known.

I had a look at the West Briton archives for 1843 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wbritonad/cornwall/1843/misc/mar.html and I think this entry may relate to him JOHN TREMAIN, 18, was charged with stealing a pair of trowsers, a pair of boots, a pair of half boots, and a hat, the property of Nicholas MAY, of the parish of St. Austell. Mr. May stated that the prisoner was in his service, and left on the 21st instant. After he had gone, prosecutor missed the things mentioned in the indictment, and sent John HOARE after him, who apprehended the prisoner with the things in his hand. Guilty. A former conviction having been proved, in which the prisoner was sentenced to six months' hard labour, the Court now sentenced him to Fourteen Years' Transportation You may find the earlier conviction by searching the earlier West Briton transcriptions. In the 1841 census, there is a Nicholas MAY at St Austell who has a servant William TREMAYNE aged 10.    There are several entries for John TREMAIN/TREMAYNE  of the right sort of age but you might be able to eliminate some by finding them in the 1851 census on FreeCEN: http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl  Regards, Joy         ________________________________ From: Alan Briant <abri9889@bigpond.net.au> To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 3 September, 2010 9:58:13 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Family Research - John Tremain(e)   I am researching my Great Grandfather John TREMAIN(E). He was tried at Bodmin Cornwall on 22 March 1843 for stealing some items of apparel and was sentenced to 14 years imprisonment. Another prior conviction was made against him, but details are not known. In 1848 he was granted "Ticket of Leave" status and exiled to Van Diemens Land (Tasmania) Australia on the ship "Mount Stewart Elphinstone". He arrived in Hobart Tasmania on 18 May 1848. If possible I would be interested to know his age when convicted and his place of residence in Cornwall together with any other information on him if available. Perhaps Bodmin Gaol and/or Trial Records could be helpful if they could be accessed. I would be very grateful if anyone may be able to give advice and help me in this matter. Yours Sincerely, Ruth Briant, 141 Moroney Street, BAIRNSDALE, Victoria.3875, Australia.  ------------------------------- Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ruth, I do have info on John Tremaine here are some links for you to look at. They are the relevant Tasmanian archive pages. TREMAIN, John / VDL-18 May 1848 / Mount Stuart Elphinstone 2 Feb 1848 / Cornwall Assizes 22 Mar 1843 / 14 / 24 / OPC : West Briton, March 1843 - John Tremaine (18) charged with stealing a pair of trowsers, a pair of boots, a pair of half-boots, and a hat, the property of Nicholas May, of the parish of St Austell. Mr May stated prisoner had been in his service and left on 21st instant, and after he left the items were found to be missing, and John Hoare went after him and found the things in prisoners hands. Guilty. Former conviction. Sentenced to Fourteen Years Transportation / Tas Archives - Conduct Report, transported for stealing apparel - Indent, single, stealing a pair of boots per Nicholas Bray at St Austell; previous 6 months; labourer; native of St Austell, Cornwall; Family - (mother) Jane; (b) John; (s) Elizabeth, Anne http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON33-1-89,23 4,176,L,80 http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON14-1-38,23 6,66,L,80 http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON14-1-38,23 6,67,L,80 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wbritonad/cornwall/1843/mi sc/mar.html If you can give me info on his life after arriving here I will add it to the notes. Cheers Julie The Camborne Girl now in NSW Extracting the Cornish convicts who were transported to Australia -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Briant Sent: Friday, 3 September 2010 6:58 PM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Family Research - John Tremain(e) I am researching my Great Grandfather John TREMAIN(E). He was tried at Bodmin Cornwall on 22 March 1843 for stealing some items of apparel and was sentenced to 14 years imprisonment. Another prior conviction was made against him, but details are not known. In 1848 he was granted "Ticket of Leave" status and exiled to Van Diemens Land (Tasmania) Australia on the ship "Mount Stewart Elphinstone". He arrived in Hobart Tasmania on 18 May 1848. If possible I would be interested to know his age when convicted and his place of residence in Cornwall together with any other information on him if available. Perhaps Bodmin Gaol and/or Trial Records could be helpful if they could be accessed. I would be very grateful if anyone may be able to give advice and help me in this matter. Yours Sincerely, Ruth Briant, 141 Moroney Street, BAIRNSDALE, Victoria.3875, Australia. ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3110 - Release Date: 09/03/10 04:50:00