Dear Listers I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March 1845. Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas in any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 and 1861 census. I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do not match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him in the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find on FreeBMD doesn't match his age. This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are the pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National Archives. Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be specific records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive holding this information? Kind regards, Rowena

Hi Rowena There is an Elizabeth F. NOALL, age 90, born St Ives, in the 1911 Census: At S Albany Road Redruth: Wm Hy WEBBER, 66, widower, Mariner, born Portreath Sidney J. SEMMENS, son-in-law, 33, Blacksmith, born Redruth Hannah J. SEMMENS, daughter, 30, born Portreath Thomas WEBBER, son, 23, Carpenter, born Portreath Robert WEBBER, son, 19, Chemist Assistant, born Redruth Sidney J. SEMMENS, grand-son, 3 months, born Redruth Elizabeth F. NOALL, mother-in-law, 90, born St Ives (Plus a servant - Bessie HOSKING) [Reference RG14PN13973 RG78PN832 RD299 SD2 ED4 SN123] Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rowena Gough Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 8:44 AM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea Dear Listers I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March 1845. Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas in any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 and 1861 census. I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do not match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him in the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find on FreeBMD doesn't match his age. This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are the pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National Archives. Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be specific records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive holding this information? Kind regards, Rowena ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message