Apologies Lorna, but what is the TNA Research Guide? Do you mean the National Archives in Britain? Rowena -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna Leadbetter Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 5:02 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea TNA Research Guide on Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, Domestic Records Information.61 gives information on this subject. Lorna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:43 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > Dear Listers > > > > I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, > > Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March > 1845. > > > > Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, > Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas > in > any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 > and 1861 census. > > > > I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no > success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her > daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do > not > match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 > census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. > > > > Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him in > the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find on > FreeBMD doesn't match his age. > > > > This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are > the > pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so > where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National > Archives. > > > > Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be > specific > records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive > holding this information? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Rowena > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rowena - yes, go to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp and you will find an alphabetical list of research guides on many different subjects, including several relating to merchant navy officers and seamen. Lorna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > Apologies Lorna, but what is the TNA Research Guide? Do you mean the > National Archives in Britain? > > Rowena > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna Leadbetter > Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 5:02 PM > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > > TNA Research Guide on Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, Domestic > Records > Information.61 gives information on this subject. > > Lorna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> > To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:43 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > > >> Dear Listers >> >> >> >> I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, >> >> Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March >> 1845. >> >> >> >> Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, >> Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas >> in >> any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 >> and 1861 census. >> >> >> >> I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no >> success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her >> daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do >> not >> match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 >> census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. >> >> >> >> Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him >> in >> the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find >> on >> FreeBMD doesn't match his age. >> >> >> >> This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are >> the >> pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if >> so >> where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National >> Archives. >> >> >> >> Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be >> specific >> records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime >> Archive >> holding this information? >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> >> Rowena >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information > >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >