Hi all, especially Rowena and Keith. The Permewan family have a connection with a Shugg family in the West Penwith area but there appears to be no connection to the ones under discussion within the relevant time frame. Good hunting! John Tremewan (Researching TREMEWAN, TREMEWEN and PERMEWAN) in and from Cornwall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Foster" <fosterk@qld.chariot.net.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Joseph Johns SHUGG one more time I would like to sort this one out if possible so any help would be appreciated but not urgent. I am currently cross referencing all my Shugg information especially parish registers v IGI records. There appear to be many variations and it appears some come from a difference between original registers and bishops transcriptions. The classic is Grace Rosewarne Shugg as it appears in a bishops transcription and appears as such on the OPC site. The original register has her as Pearce Rosewarne Shugg. It wasn't until her name appeared as a prosecution witness in a trial reported in the West Briton that the correct name of Pearce Rosewarne Shugg was determined. There are many variations in dates with 3 and 8 often mixed. I have done my share of reading parish registers so know the difficulty in determining some of the hand writing so in no way are criticising any transcribers who do a fantastic job. This one with Joseph Johns just seemed very strange in a family that appears very orthodox in what they did with their first children. My guess would be that he is an illegitimate grandchild but will never prove it. Regards Keith -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Sent: Saturday, 24 July 2010 7:34 PM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Joseph Johns SHUGG one more time Hello again Keith and All, The date was the 30th of Oct as you said...not the 31st. sorry. The entry of the parents reads Samuel & Anne Thomas with Shugg in the surname column. The names Joseph and Johns read as first and middle names. It seems that he could have been baptised as an adult although there is no note in the entry to that affect. I can go back to the page to check if all the entries look like they were added at the same time, in case an earlier note by the official had been ignored, if you wish. Kathy ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15500) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3022 - Release Date: 07/22/10 18:36:00