Hopefully someone may be able to help here. Harold Hitchings Shugg born Illogen 1890. Record in BDM In the 1891 census he appears as a grandson David Shugg head Margareta wife Eliza Shugg daughter Harold H Shugg grandson >From other records I have concluded Eliza is Eliza Rosewarne Shugg. I have never had a problem with these records until now. Harold Hitchings Shugg married Hazel Davey in Michigan 20/12/1919 and gave his parents as William Shugg and Eliza Rosewarne. Either Harold has lied on his marriage certificate or the census for 1891 should read Eliza as a daughter in law, however to my knowledge David and Margareta never had a son William. My guess is that the marriage certificate is wrong Regards Keith ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15540) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

Hi Keith My understanding is that Harold Hitchins Shugg was the illegitimate son of Eliza Rosewarne Shugg, born 18 Dec 1890, Treskellard, Illogan. Eliza married John Mugford Jan-Mar 1896, Redruth R.D. (John Mugford born Oct-Dec 1860 Blackawton (Bideford RD) Devon. Unable to find death registrations for Eliza or John, so they may have emigrated to North America, as 2 sons fought in WW1 as USA and Canadian servicemen. I havn't seen Harold's birth registration to know whether a father is named. A William Shugg may be his father, or he has lied on his marriage record, Notes that I have for Harold Hitchins Shugg. Emigrated to the USA, and had a WW1 Draft registration Card issued showing his residence as Houghten, Michigan. He was a resident of Painesdale, and an engineer at the time of his marriage. Witnesses were: Ernest Hitchens of Painesdale, and Myrtle Davey of Calumnet. He died in October 1971, at age 80 in Houghten, Michigan. Harold married Hazel M. Davey born c. 1893 Norway, Michigan, USA. Her parents were Cornish, James Henry Davey and Charlotte Carbis who married Oct-Dec 1887 Redruth RD. I don't know of any children Harold and Hazel may have had, or when she died. Regards, Rowena -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Foster Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 7:00 PM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Another conflict in records for Shuggs. Hopefully someone may be able to help here. Harold Hitchings Shugg born Illogen 1890. Record in BDM In the 1891 census he appears as a grandson David Shugg head Margareta wife Eliza Shugg daughter Harold H Shugg grandson >From other records I have concluded Eliza is Eliza Rosewarne Shugg. I have never had a problem with these records until now. Harold Hitchings Shugg married Hazel Davey in Michigan 20/12/1919 and gave his parents as William Shugg and Eliza Rosewarne. Either Harold has lied on his marriage certificate or the census for 1891 should read Eliza as a daughter in law, however to my knowledge David and Margareta never had a son William. My guess is that the marriage certificate is wrong Regards Keith ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15540) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Rowena and Jan, this was my understanding. I think this demonstrates the fact that you never rely on a single source of information. If I had found the marriage register first I would have gone down the wrong track altogether. Regards Keith -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rowena Gough Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 8:19 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Another conflict in records for Shuggs. Hi Keith My understanding is that Harold Hitchins Shugg was the illegitimate son of Eliza Rosewarne Shugg, born 18 Dec 1890, Treskellard, Illogan. Eliza married John Mugford Jan-Mar 1896, Redruth R.D. (John Mugford born Oct-Dec 1860 Blackawton (Bideford RD) Devon. Unable to find death registrations for Eliza or John, so they may have emigrated to North America, as 2 sons fought in WW1 as USA and Canadian servicemen. I havn't seen Harold's birth registration to know whether a father is named. A William Shugg may be his father, or he has lied on his marriage record, Notes that I have for Harold Hitchins Shugg. Emigrated to the USA, and had a WW1 Draft registration Card issued showing his residence as Houghten, Michigan. He was a resident of Painesdale, and an engineer at the time of his marriage. Witnesses were: Ernest Hitchens of Painesdale, and Myrtle Davey of Calumnet. He died in October 1971, at age 80 in Houghten, Michigan. Harold married Hazel M. Davey born c. 1893 Norway, Michigan, USA. Her parents were Cornish, James Henry Davey and Charlotte Carbis who married Oct-Dec 1887 Redruth RD. I don't know of any children Harold and Hazel may have had, or when she died. Regards, Rowena -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Foster Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 7:00 PM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Another conflict in records for Shuggs. Hopefully someone may be able to help here. Harold Hitchings Shugg born Illogen 1890. Record in BDM In the 1891 census he appears as a grandson David Shugg head Margareta wife Eliza Shugg daughter Harold H Shugg grandson >From other records I have concluded Eliza is Eliza Rosewarne Shugg. I have never had a problem with these records until now. Harold Hitchings Shugg married Hazel Davey in Michigan 20/12/1919 and gave his parents as William Shugg and Eliza Rosewarne. Either Harold has lied on his marriage certificate or the census for 1891 should read Eliza as a daughter in law, however to my knowledge David and Margareta never had a son William. My guess is that the marriage certificate is wrong Regards Keith ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15540) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15540) http://www.pctools.com/ =======