Hello Barb, In the UK we can access the 19th century British Newspapers Collection via our Library website using our Library card number. Also, FindMyPast has the newspaper collection. Why he went alone is anybody's guess. One thing that does suggest that they didn't keep in touch is the fact that she is described as a widow on the 1891 census but Christopher didn't die until 1893. Joy ----Original message---- >From : cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Date : 20/08/2014 - 03:13 (UTC) To : wjcurnow@kernow.com, JCM2006@sympatico.ca, cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [CORNISH-GEN] RICHARDS, Christopher Ellis b. 1821 Penzance Hello Joanne, Joy, Bob and Bill Great response, thank you so much :-) Please tell me where do clever people find the newspaper reports...? And so quickly....? If any of you have specific Cornish history is it a possibility that people emigrated from Cornwall around that time because of the GOLD RUSH in Victoria, Australia....? It rather looks as if Christopher Ellis RICHARDS following his marriage 1851, UK census 1851, birth of 2 children 1852 and 1853, came to Australia and did not return. One wonders why his wife didn't follow him as it seems they stayed in touch..... Did he contribute to her "own means" ...? Maybe he had a lucky strike....! All and any further input much appreciated. Barbara Down Under ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barbara Christr E Richards, aged 34, arrived in Melbourne on 8 Feb 1855 on the Shalimar. A ship of the White Star Line under the command of Captain Roberts, the Shalimar sailed from Liverpool on 23 November 1854 carrying upwards of 425 passengers. Bob Bolitho On 20/08/2014 12:13 PM, Barb O'Neil via wrote: > Hello Joanne, Joy, Bob and Bill > Great response, thank you so much :-) > > Please tell me where do clever people find the newspaper reports...? And so quickly....? > > If any of you have specific Cornish history is it a possibility that people emigrated from Cornwall around that time because of the GOLD RUSH in Victoria, Australia....? > > It rather looks as if Christopher Ellis RICHARDS following his marriage 1851, UK census 1851, birth of 2 children 1852 and 1853, came to Australia and did not return. > > One wonders why his wife didn't follow him as it seems they stayed in touch..... > Did he contribute to her "own means" ...? Maybe he had a lucky strike....! > > All and any further input much appreciated. > > Barbara Down Under > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hello Joanne, Joy, Bob and Bill Great response, thank you so much :-) Please tell me where do clever people find the newspaper reports...? And so quickly....? If any of you have specific Cornish history is it a possibility that people emigrated from Cornwall around that time because of the GOLD RUSH in Victoria, Australia....? It rather looks as if Christopher Ellis RICHARDS following his marriage 1851, UK census 1851, birth of 2 children 1852 and 1853, came to Australia and did not return. One wonders why his wife didn't follow him as it seems they stayed in touch..... Did he contribute to her "own means" ...? Maybe he had a lucky strike....! All and any further input much appreciated. Barbara Down Under

Will of Ann Bolitho Rogers transcribed from a copy of the will found in LDS film # 1471480. (I have not identified all mentioned in this will, nor have I found a baptismal entry for an Ann Bolitho or a marriage for her and William Rogers.) My summary: Will wr. 25 July 1688, proved 28 Dec 1695 Helston. Last name was deduced from searching the IGI for her siblings mentioned in her will. They match the children of Alexander Bolithoe of Helston. abs of will S Thomas--Hendra each of his children Aunt Jane Kitching & dau Christian (Germoe) s John & his children d. Jane Rowe and each of her children d. Ann Trevarthen & her children bro Christopher Sis Elizabeth Geach Cou Grace & Eliz Penhellick, d of cou John d Mary Bolithoe godson John Rogers (must be John son of bro-in-law Thos) cou Jane Tregemba Inventory of Ann 28 Dec 1695 by Henry Polkinhorne and Alex: Rowe. Signature of Alexander is a good match for that of Alexander bondsman for Mary Rogers daughter of John Rowe Will: In the name of God Amen: I Anne Rogers of the Borrough of Helston in the countie of Cornwall Widow being of perfect mind and memory and in good health (blessed be God) do make & ordayne this my last will and testament. First I commend my soul into the hands of Almighty God my Redeemer and comitt my body to the Earth to be decently buried by my Executor hereafter named. Item I give unto my sonne Thomas Rogers one shilling and to each of his children one shilling and whereas I have a house in Hendra where my said son Thomas liveth which is mine for my life time which I do account to have ten shillings a year rent for it whereas now about eight years that he hath lived in which will remain to 4th __________ which I doe order him to pay ten shillings to each of his children and his wife. I do order him to pay two pounds ten shillings to my aunt Jane Kitching if she survive me, if not to be payed to her daughter Christian Kitching. Item I giveunto my sonne John Rogers and his children ten pounds. Item I give unto my daughter Jane Rowe, twentie shillings and to each of her children five shillings. Item I give to my Daughter Ann Trevorten and her children ten pounds. Item I give unto my Brother Christopher (damaged) shillings. Item I give unto my sister Elizabeth Geach five shillings. Item I give unto my cosens Elizabeth and Grace Penhellick the daughterts of my cosen John Penhellick five shillings. Item I give unto my godsone John Rogers ten shillings, Item I give unto my cosen Jane Tregemba five shillings. Item I give unto Florence Symon and her Daughter Alice to each of them five shillings. Item I give unto my daughter Mary Bolithoe twentie pounds, and my will and pleasure is that she leave it in my Executors hands as long as she pleaseth, he paying her lawful interest for as long as she ____ to have it in his hands, and if my said Daughter shall happen to die before she take the said monie out of my Executors hands, then he shall pay it unto her child or children if she hath any, or to any of her relations to whom she shall think (damaged) Item I leave to my Daughter Mary Bolithoe the use of my feather bed and all the furniture belonging to it with (damaged) lor ma____ which are in my sonne Bolithoes house for her life time and in reverse on of her life to her child or children if she hath any but if in case she shall have no children living at her death, then I doe give my feather bed and all the furniture belonging to it and my other ne_______ which are in her possession to my sonne John Rogers and to his children. And whereas (damaged) due unto me a bond of fifteen pounds which was given unto me by my deceased Husband. I do hereby give and bequeath that bond to my sonne in law John Rowe whom I do hereby appoint and order to be my whole and sole Executor to pay the above (damaged) which said legacies are to be paid by my said Executor afore (damaged line) of the year and day (damaged) funerall charges: Hereby revoking all other wills formerly made. Witness my hand and seale the 25 day of July in the year of our Lord 1688 signed Ann Rogers Sealed and Signed in the presence of Jno Penhellick _am Penhellick Elizab: Penhellick Sent from my iPad

Barbara, The West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser is one newspaper serving Cornwall, and there's an active team transcribing 19th century editions of the paper. Completed transcripts can be found at this site - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wbritonad/ Bill Curnow Port Charlotte, FL, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Barb O'Neil To: Bill Curnow ; JCM ; cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:13 PM Subject: Re: RICHARDS, Christopher Ellis b. 1821 Penzance Hello Joanne, Joy, Bob and Bill Great response, thank you so much :-) Please tell me where do clever people find the newspaper reports...? And so quickly....? If any of you have specific Cornish history is it a possibility that people emigrated from Cornwall around that time because of the GOLD RUSH in Victoria, Australia....? It rather looks as if Christopher Ellis RICHARDS following his marriage 1851, UK census 1851, birth of 2 children 1852 and 1853, came to Australia and did not return. One wonders why his wife didn't follow him as it seems they stayed in touch..... Did he contribute to her "own means" ...? Maybe he had a lucky strike....! All and any further input much appreciated. Barbara Down Under

Hi Barbara Further to Joy's information, Christopher was buried in Rookwood Independent Cemetery in Sydney, Methodist section 4C/OC, grave 61. Bob Bolitho On 19/08/2014 7:29 PM, Joy Langdon via wrote: > Hi Barbara, > > You are in the right place to research what happened to Christopher Ellis Richards! > > Death Notice The Cornishman 2nd March 1893 > Richards Dec 10th at Paramatta, Sidney, Mr Christoher Ellis Richards, saddler (formerly of Penzance) 72 > > Regards, > > Joy > ----Original message---- > >From : cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > Date : 19/08/2014 - 07:13 (UTC) > To : CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com > Subject : [CORNISH-GEN] RICHARDS, Christopher Ellis b. 1821 Penzance > > Hello at Cornish List > I am in Australia and wonder if someone with access to local information might be able to either help me or point me in a direction that could prove successful.....? > I have LOST Christopher Ellis RICHARDS - his parents were Christopher Ellis RICHARDS and Grace nee HOSKEN. > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hello at Cornish List I am in Australia and wonder if someone with access to local information might be able to either help me or point me in a direction that could prove successful.....? I have LOST Christopher Ellis RICHARDS - his parents were Christopher Ellis RICHARDS and Grace nee HOSKEN. 27 Oct 1820 - he was bap. Penzance, Cornwall, England 1841 UK Census - Gluvias ??, Penryn, Cornwall Christopher Ellis RICHARDS - Sad: Ap. (Saddler Apprentice..?) With Christopher LEWIS 60 Labourer & Jenefer LEWIS 45 1851 March qtr. Marriage regd. Falmouth Christopher Ellis RICHARDS m. Sarah Strongman TREDWEN 1851 UK Census - Chapel St Madron Cornwall Christopher Ellis RICHARDS 30 Saddler, Harness Maker & Sarah Shonymar Richards (should read - Strongman) And that is the last I can find on him.........! Is it possible to locate birth details of his 2 children that might shed light on him also...? His wife and 2 children can be found - 1861 UK CENSUS - St Gluvias St Penryn Cornwall Andrew TREDWEN Unm 36 Plumber & Tin Plate Worker Sarah S RICHARDS Sister Marr. 41 Saddler's wife Anne RICHARDS Niece 8 scholar (b. c1852) William T RICHARDS 7 Nephew scholar (b. c1853) Bessie HAWKE niece 8 scholar 1871 UK CENSUS - Market St St Gluvias Penryn Cornwall Sarah RICHARDS Head Marr. 51 Dressmaker Annie RICHARDS Daughter Unm 18 Miliner (sp?) Willie RICHARDS Son Unm 17 Butcher's Assistant 1881 UK CENSUS - Lowes (Lower?) St St Gluvias Penryn Cornwall Sarah RICHARDS Head Marr. 61 Dressmaker Annie RICHARDS Daughter Unm 28 Dressmaker William RICHARDS Son Unm 27 Cab driver (?) 1891 UK CENSUS - Lower St Penryn Cornwall Sarah S RICHARDS Head Wid. 71 Living on her own means (WHERE DID SHE GET HER MONEY.? FROM HER ABSENT HUSBAND.?) Annie RICHARDS Daughter Single 38 Seamstress 1891 Dec qtr. FREE BMD UK Deaths RICHARDS, Sarah Strongman 71 Regd. Falmouth 5c/13 ................................................................................................. At first I thought the christian names "Christopher Ellis" would be unusual, but it seems possible there could be more than one around at the same time. Hopefully I've done the above research on the correct families...... The son William Tredwen RICHARDS born to Christopher Ellis and Sarah Strongman nee TREDWEN in 1853 was the grandfather of an uncle of mine here in Australia. He is shown above as far as the 1881 UK Census and sometime prior to 1884 he left UK and went to Cape Town, South Africa. My uncle's father William Christopher RICHARDS was born 03 July 1884 in Capetown, South Africa to William Tredwin RICHARDS and Elizabeth Jane nee PLINT. It appears that the PLINT family had been in South Africa for some time, and William possibly met Elizabeth there. To date I have not located a marriage for William and Elizabeth in UK or South Africa. If anyone can help with ANY INFORMATION on either the whereabouts of Christopher Ellis RICHARDS from 1851 onwards, or the marriage in South Africa of his son William to Elizabeth Jane PLINT, I would be very grateful. Fingers crossed...... Barbara in Australia

Barbara, As good luck would have it, the birth of Annie RICHARDS was reported by The West Briton (Friday, 04 Jun 1852): "At Penzance ... on the 27th [ult.], the wife of Mr. Christopher Richards, a daughter..." Bill Curnow Port Charlotte, FL, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "JCM via" <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> To: "Barb O'Neil" <bndoneil@iprimus.com.au>; <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] RICHARDS, Christopher Ellis b. 1821 Penzance > Hi Barb: > > You may already know this, but just in case: > > Someone has a Family Heritage webpage which includes Elizabeth Jane PLINT > (b.Jan.1853 in Penryn, Cornwall, d.1933 South Africa) shown as married to > a > RICHARDS (all info about him deemed 'private'). You could try contacting > the > page owner for possible information. > http://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-71743991/plint?familyTreeID=2 > > There are photos of the gravestone of William Tredwen RICHARDS (d.1898, > aged > 45), Elizabeth Jane (d.1933, aged 80), and their son Percy Tredwen > (d.1921, > aged 27) at Woltemade Cemetery, Maitland, Cape Town, Western Cape, South > Africa http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1140613 > > You mentioned looking for the birth records of the children of Christopher > Ellis RICHARDS and Sarah. Anne/Annie is too common to be sure, but FreeBMD > has the birth registration of William Tredwen RICHARDS in the December > quarter of 1853, registration district of Penzance, Vol. 5c, p.299. You > might learn more by ordering the certificate, but they usually only have > father's name and occupation, both of which you already know. > > > Joanne > Toronto, Canada > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barb O'Neil via" <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 2:13 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] RICHARDS, Christopher Ellis b. 1821 Penzance > > >> Hello at Cornish List >> I am in Australia and wonder if someone with access to local information >> might be able to either help me or point me in a direction that could >> prove successful.....? >> I have LOST Christopher Ellis RICHARDS - his parents were Christopher >> Ellis RICHARDS and Grace nee HOSKEN. >> >> 27 Oct 1820 - he was bap. Penzance, Cornwall, England >> >> >> 1841 UK Census - Gluvias ??, Penryn, Cornwall >> >> Christopher Ellis RICHARDS - Sad: Ap. (Saddler Apprentice..?) >> >> With Christopher LEWIS 60 Labourer & Jenefer LEWIS 45 >> >> >> >> 1851 March qtr. Marriage regd. Falmouth >> >> Christopher Ellis RICHARDS m. Sarah Strongman TREDWEN >> >> >> >> 1851 UK Census - Chapel St Madron Cornwall >> >> Christopher Ellis RICHARDS 30 Saddler, Harness Maker & Sarah Shonymar >> Richards (should read - Strongman) >> >> >> >> And that is the last I can find on him.........! Is it possible to >> locate >> birth details of his 2 children that might shed light on him also...? >> >> >> >> His wife and 2 children can be found - >> >> >> >> 1861 UK CENSUS - St Gluvias St Penryn Cornwall >> >> Andrew TREDWEN Unm 36 Plumber & Tin Plate Worker >> >> Sarah S RICHARDS Sister Marr. 41 Saddler's wife >> >> Anne RICHARDS Niece 8 scholar (b. c1852) >> >> William T RICHARDS 7 Nephew scholar (b. c1853) >> >> Bessie HAWKE niece 8 scholar >> >> >> >> 1871 UK CENSUS - Market St St Gluvias Penryn Cornwall >> >> Sarah RICHARDS Head Marr. 51 Dressmaker >> >> Annie RICHARDS Daughter Unm 18 Miliner (sp?) >> >> Willie RICHARDS Son Unm 17 Butcher's Assistant >> >> >> >> 1881 UK CENSUS - Lowes (Lower?) St St Gluvias Penryn Cornwall >> >> Sarah RICHARDS Head Marr. 61 Dressmaker >> >> Annie RICHARDS Daughter Unm 28 Dressmaker >> >> William RICHARDS Son Unm 27 Cab driver (?) >> >> >> >> 1891 UK CENSUS - Lower St Penryn Cornwall >> >> Sarah S RICHARDS Head Wid. 71 Living on her own means >> >> (WHERE DID SHE GET HER MONEY.? FROM HER ABSENT HUSBAND.?) >> >> Annie RICHARDS Daughter Single 38 Seamstress >> >> >> >> 1891 Dec qtr. FREE BMD UK Deaths >> >> RICHARDS, Sarah Strongman 71 Regd. Falmouth 5c/13 >> >> ................................................................................................. >> >> >> >> At first I thought the christian names "Christopher Ellis" would be >> unusual, but it seems possible there could be more than one around at the >> same time. >> >> >> >> Hopefully I've done the above research on the correct families...... >> >> >> >> The son William Tredwen RICHARDS born to Christopher Ellis and Sarah >> Strongman nee TREDWEN in 1853 was the grandfather of an uncle of mine >> here >> in Australia. >> >> >> >> He is shown above as far as the 1881 UK Census and sometime prior to 1884 >> he left UK and went to Cape Town, South Africa. >> >> My uncle's father William Christopher RICHARDS was born 03 July 1884 in >> Capetown, South Africa to William Tredwin RICHARDS and Elizabeth Jane nee >> PLINT. >> >> It appears that the PLINT family had been in South Africa for some time, >> and William possibly met Elizabeth there. >> >> >> >> To date I have not located a marriage for William and Elizabeth in UK or >> South Africa. >> >> >> >> If anyone can help with ANY INFORMATION on either the whereabouts of >> Christopher Ellis RICHARDS from 1851 onwards, or the marriage in South >> Africa of his son William to Elizabeth Jane PLINT, I would be very >> grateful. >> >> >> >> Fingers crossed...... >> >> >> >> Barbara in Australia >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm having another look at my 10GGF, Tristram BOWHAY,(abt 1575-abt 1629). Although he had a brother, Nicholas, I have not yet found parents for him. He wrote a Will in 1605 (a job and a half to transcribe, I can tell you!) from which I learn that his father is dead by this date, but his mother is still alive. Tristram married Mary KELLY 17 Jan 1596/1597 in Stoke Climsland and his two sons  were born there. Is anyone researching this family, who can add to these details, please? Kind regards Joy in the Garden of England also researching in Cornwall:- WEARING, PEAK, RICH, RUNDLE, JOLL, HAWTON, PEAK-GARLAND, RAPSON, DAVEY and many more.

Hi Barb: You may already know this, but just in case: Someone has a Family Heritage webpage which includes Elizabeth Jane PLINT (b.Jan.1853 in Penryn, Cornwall, d.1933 South Africa) shown as married to a RICHARDS (all info about him deemed 'private'). You could try contacting the page owner for possible information. http://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-71743991/plint?familyTreeID=2 There are photos of the gravestone of William Tredwen RICHARDS (d.1898, aged 45), Elizabeth Jane (d.1933, aged 80), and their son Percy Tredwen (d.1921, aged 27) at Woltemade Cemetery, Maitland, Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1140613 You mentioned looking for the birth records of the children of Christopher Ellis RICHARDS and Sarah. Anne/Annie is too common to be sure, but FreeBMD has the birth registration of William Tredwen RICHARDS in the December quarter of 1853, registration district of Penzance, Vol. 5c, p.299. You might learn more by ordering the certificate, but they usually only have father's name and occupation, both of which you already know. Joanne Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb O'Neil via" <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 2:13 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] RICHARDS, Christopher Ellis b. 1821 Penzance > Hello at Cornish List > I am in Australia and wonder if someone with access to local information > might be able to either help me or point me in a direction that could > prove successful.....? > I have LOST Christopher Ellis RICHARDS - his parents were Christopher > Ellis RICHARDS and Grace nee HOSKEN. > > 27 Oct 1820 - he was bap. Penzance, Cornwall, England > > > 1841 UK Census - Gluvias ??, Penryn, Cornwall > > Christopher Ellis RICHARDS - Sad: Ap. (Saddler Apprentice..?) > > With Christopher LEWIS 60 Labourer & Jenefer LEWIS 45 > > > > 1851 March qtr. Marriage regd. Falmouth > > Christopher Ellis RICHARDS m. Sarah Strongman TREDWEN > > > > 1851 UK Census - Chapel St Madron Cornwall > > Christopher Ellis RICHARDS 30 Saddler, Harness Maker & Sarah Shonymar > Richards (should read - Strongman) > > > > And that is the last I can find on him.........! Is it possible to locate > birth details of his 2 children that might shed light on him also...? > > > > His wife and 2 children can be found - > > > > 1861 UK CENSUS - St Gluvias St Penryn Cornwall > > Andrew TREDWEN Unm 36 Plumber & Tin Plate Worker > > Sarah S RICHARDS Sister Marr. 41 Saddler's wife > > Anne RICHARDS Niece 8 scholar (b. c1852) > > William T RICHARDS 7 Nephew scholar (b. c1853) > > Bessie HAWKE niece 8 scholar > > > > 1871 UK CENSUS - Market St St Gluvias Penryn Cornwall > > Sarah RICHARDS Head Marr. 51 Dressmaker > > Annie RICHARDS Daughter Unm 18 Miliner (sp?) > > Willie RICHARDS Son Unm 17 Butcher's Assistant > > > > 1881 UK CENSUS - Lowes (Lower?) St St Gluvias Penryn Cornwall > > Sarah RICHARDS Head Marr. 61 Dressmaker > > Annie RICHARDS Daughter Unm 28 Dressmaker > > William RICHARDS Son Unm 27 Cab driver (?) > > > > 1891 UK CENSUS - Lower St Penryn Cornwall > > Sarah S RICHARDS Head Wid. 71 Living on her own means > > (WHERE DID SHE GET HER MONEY.? FROM HER ABSENT HUSBAND.?) > > Annie RICHARDS Daughter Single 38 Seamstress > > > > 1891 Dec qtr. FREE BMD UK Deaths > > RICHARDS, Sarah Strongman 71 Regd. Falmouth 5c/13 > > ................................................................................................. > > > > At first I thought the christian names "Christopher Ellis" would be > unusual, but it seems possible there could be more than one around at the > same time. > > > > Hopefully I've done the above research on the correct families...... > > > > The son William Tredwen RICHARDS born to Christopher Ellis and Sarah > Strongman nee TREDWEN in 1853 was the grandfather of an uncle of mine here > in Australia. > > > > He is shown above as far as the 1881 UK Census and sometime prior to 1884 > he left UK and went to Cape Town, South Africa. > > My uncle's father William Christopher RICHARDS was born 03 July 1884 in > Capetown, South Africa to William Tredwin RICHARDS and Elizabeth Jane nee > PLINT. > > It appears that the PLINT family had been in South Africa for some time, > and William possibly met Elizabeth there. > > > > To date I have not located a marriage for William and Elizabeth in UK or > South Africa. > > > > If anyone can help with ANY INFORMATION on either the whereabouts of > Christopher Ellis RICHARDS from 1851 onwards, or the marriage in South > Africa of his son William to Elizabeth Jane PLINT, I would be very > grateful. > > > > Fingers crossed...... > > > > Barbara in Australia > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Barbara, You are in the right place to research what happened to Christopher Ellis Richards! Death Notice The Cornishman 2nd March 1893 Richards Dec 10th at Paramatta, Sidney, Mr Christoher Ellis Richards, saddler (formerly of Penzance) 72 Regards, Joy ----Original message---- >From : cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Date : 19/08/2014 - 07:13 (UTC) To : CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject : [CORNISH-GEN] RICHARDS, Christopher Ellis b. 1821 Penzance Hello at Cornish List I am in Australia and wonder if someone with access to local information might be able to either help me or point me in a direction that could prove successful.....? I have LOST Christopher Ellis RICHARDS - his parents were Christopher Ellis RICHARDS and Grace nee HOSKEN. 27 Oct 1820 - he was bap. Penzance, Cornwall, England 1841 UK Census - Gluvias ??, Penryn, Cornwall Christopher Ellis RICHARDS - Sad: Ap. (Saddler Apprentice..?) With Christopher LEWIS 60 Labourer & Jenefer LEWIS 45 1851 March qtr. Marriage regd. Falmouth Christopher Ellis RICHARDS m. Sarah Strongman TREDWEN 1851 UK Census - Chapel St Madron Cornwall Christopher Ellis RICHARDS 30 Saddler, Harness Maker & Sarah Shonymar Richards (should read - Strongman) And that is the last I can find on him.........! Is it possible to locate birth details of his 2 children that might shed light on him also...? His wife and 2 children can be found - 1861 UK CENSUS - St Gluvias St Penryn Cornwall Andrew TREDWEN Unm 36 Plumber & Tin Plate Worker Sarah S RICHARDS Sister Marr. 41 Saddler's wife Anne RICHARDS Niece 8 scholar (b. c1852) William T RICHARDS 7 Nephew scholar (b. c1853) Bessie HAWKE niece 8 scholar 1871 UK CENSUS - Market St St Gluvias Penryn Cornwall Sarah RICHARDS Head Marr. 51 Dressmaker Annie RICHARDS Daughter Unm 18 Miliner (sp?) Willie RICHARDS Son Unm 17 Butcher's Assistant 1881 UK CENSUS - Lowes (Lower?) St St Gluvias Penryn Cornwall Sarah RICHARDS Head Marr. 61 Dressmaker Annie RICHARDS Daughter Unm 28 Dressmaker William RICHARDS Son Unm 27 Cab driver (?) 1891 UK CENSUS - Lower St Penryn Cornwall Sarah S RICHARDS Head Wid. 71 Living on her own means (WHERE DID SHE GET HER MONEY.? FROM HER ABSENT HUSBAND.?) Annie RICHARDS Daughter Single 38 Seamstress 1891 Dec qtr. FREE BMD UK Deaths RICHARDS, Sarah Strongman 71 Regd. Falmouth 5c/13 ................................................................................................. At first I thought the christian names "Christopher Ellis" would be unusual, but it seems possible there could be more than one around at the same time. Hopefully I've done the above research on the correct families...... The son William Tredwen RICHARDS born to Christopher Ellis and Sarah Strongman nee TREDWEN in 1853 was the grandfather of an uncle of mine here in Australia. He is shown above as far as the 1881 UK Census and sometime prior to 1884 he left UK and went to Cape Town, South Africa. My uncle's father William Christopher RICHARDS was born 03 July 1884 in Capetown, South Africa to William Tredwin RICHARDS and Elizabeth Jane nee PLINT. It appears that the PLINT family had been in South Africa for some time, and William possibly met Elizabeth there. To date I have not located a marriage for William and Elizabeth in UK or South Africa. If anyone can help with ANY INFORMATION on either the whereabouts of Christopher Ellis RICHARDS from 1851 onwards, or the marriage in South Africa of his son William to Elizabeth Jane PLINT, I would be very grateful. Fingers crossed...... Barbara in Australia ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As I showed Bob, if there was a connection it would have to be pre-1569 and therefore via a son or grandson of Thomas Bolithowe, the founder present in Crowan in the muster of 1535. Five DNA results have been obtained from Bolithos and I am trying to get access to them from the project administrator. If we can get one from the Crowan/Helston line and one from the Lizard line, we can see if they are related. JF From: Bob Bolitho <bbolitho@tpg.com.au> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Bolitho Surname. I know of no connection between the St Keverne Bolithos and those of Wendron or West Penwith. Bob Bolitho

Thanks Myra and Phoebe Its a great effort of the OPC to transcribe all those wills; especially as I don't think anyone else is doing it. However to give some idea of the task ahead (to give an example from one particular surname) - of about 155 Coad-Coode wills at CRO, only 19 are on "Cornish Will Abstracts" and only six on OPC. Which is probably representative of the total state of affairs. It cost me 40 pounds about 5 years ago to get one (only) of the larger COADE wills transcribed, but now I can do it myself more or less, with the aid of my erudite cousins. We bought bad printed copies of about 30 of these off CRO. Dr Nigel Coad of Leamington had a go at transcribing them which took him ages. We made many remarkable discoveries without which the Coad book could not have been written. We still need about 60 more. The Court of Canterbury ones are a bit of a mixed bag, I've purchased all of the relevant ones over the years and still have little idea who half of them were. The real tragedy was the loss of all the Diocese of Exeter ones during WWII bombing, which virtually took out the whole 16th century in one blow. Oh to go back to 1939. JF ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <myra@minebydesign.co.uk> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Wills To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Hello All Almost 3,000 Cornish Wills have been transcribed by the OPC team. The index is in our searchable database at http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/extra-searches/wills/ and full transcripts are available, linking from the relevant parish pages (see http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/parishes.php). Many parish pages also contain links to lists of the available Wills, with Cornwall Record Office or National Archives references included. Both are on-going projects and offers of help, or donations of transcripts, would be received gratefully by Judith Upton at JudithUpton@aol.com. Regards Myra Cordrey OPC database administrator -----Original Message----- From: Phoebe via Wills are available on line at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/wills.htm - not all of them, perhaps, but certainly a lot. This web site is well worth exploring. Happy searching.... Phoebe ------------------------------

Alexander Bolitho married Jane/Jana Worthevall on 27 Apr 1607 at Truro (IGI). She was buried on 22 Mar 1632-3 at Helston (OPC burials database). I haven't seen the will you refer to, but it would be a valuable addition to the OPC collection of wills. Not having seen the will, I am reluctant to comment on the children of Alexander Bolitho, except to say that it is possible he had more than nine children, some having died as infants. Bob Bolitho On 18/08/2014 1:55 PM, Joe Flood via wrote: > > Thanks so much, Arlene, Wills are a wonderful early resource, its a pity they have never been put online and are so hard to get access to. > This contains a great deal of valuable information about the family of Alexander Bolithoe ~1575 the wool merchant, who is in Visitations and in the tree I sent yesterday. > http://ukga.org/england/Cornwall/visitations/p569.html > We have nine children of Alexander from his two marriages, plus at least two more daughters from this will - Mary and Elizabeth. > Where did you find jane WORTHEVAL as the second wife of Alexander? > Grace Penhellick nee Bolitho was the eldest,about 20 years older than Ann Rogers (who I had as ODGERS) . > > As to which cousin John that Mary Rogers married - well we have a nice tangle, there were four John Bolithoes born 1644-54 in Wendron/Helston with different fathers; and two marriages in Wendron to a Mary, in 1679-81 > JF --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Neville The Mary Bolitho who married Abraham Gay on 14 Feb 1799 at St Keverne was baptised on 27 Feb 1780 at St Keverne, daughter of Thomas Bolitho and Mary Rule. When Mary Bolitho nee Rule died in 1783, Thomas married Avice Thomas Roberts. Their son John married another Mary Rule (daughter of Peter Rule and Mary Tresise). So your Mary Bolitho would be a half-sister to the John Bolitho mentioned in Mary Hester's message. I know of no connection between the St Keverne Bolithos and those of Wendron or West Penwith. Bob Bolitho On 18/08/2014 1:58 PM, Neville via wrote: > Hi from NSW, Australia, > > The Bolithos from St Keverne are of interest to me. I have an Abraham Gay (4 > x gg/f) b.12/2/1768 at St Keverne m. Mary Bolitho b. 27/2/1780 at St > Keverne. The marriage took place at St Keverne on 14/2/1799. > > I don't know if my Mary Bolitho is from the same line mentioned in these > messages. Any help would be appreciated. > > Neville Lee > Kariong, NSW > > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Wills are available on line at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/wills.htm - not all of them, perhaps, but certainly a lot. This web site is well worth exploring. Happy searching.... Phoebe

Thanks so much, Arlene, Wills are a wonderful early resource, its a pity they have never been put online and are so hard to get access to. This contains a great deal of valuable information about the family of Alexander Bolithoe ~1575 the wool merchant, who is in Visitations and in the tree I sent yesterday. http://ukga.org/england/Cornwall/visitations/p569.html We have nine children of Alexander from his two marriages, plus at least two more daughters from this will - Mary and Elizabeth. Where did you find jane WORTHEVAL as the second wife of Alexander? Grace Penhellick nee Bolitho was the eldest,about 20 years older than Ann Rogers (who I had as ODGERS) . As to which cousin John that Mary Rogers married - well we have a nice tangle, there were four John Bolithoes born 1644-54 in Wendron/Helston with different fathers; and two marriages in Wendron to a Mary, in 1679-81 JF > > Hi, > I think I have some Bolithos in my line. The will of Ann Rogers, wid of > Wm Rogers, (wr. 25 July 1688, proved Dec 1695, names bunches of children > and relatives. Among them is the name of her brother Christopher, sister > Elizabeth Geach, "cousins" Grace and Elizabeth Penhellick (daughters of > sister Grace), and also a daughter Mary Bolitho who married John > Bolitho--(a cousin?) in 1679 in Wendron. A search of the IGI turned up a > father who had children with these names-- Alexander Bolithoe with wife > Jana Wortheval (At least I think so, based on what information I have.) > Ann and her husband William lived in Breage and had a whole bunch > of children. Many of the Roger's left wills so tracing that family has > been fun. > > > ------------------------------ >

Hi from NSW, Australia, The Bolithos from St Keverne are of interest to me. I have an Abraham Gay (4 x gg/f) b.12/2/1768 at St Keverne m. Mary Bolitho b. 27/2/1780 at St Keverne. The marriage took place at St Keverne on 14/2/1799. I don't know if my Mary Bolitho is from the same line mentioned in these messages. Any help would be appreciated. Neville Lee Kariong, NSW -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Hester via Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2014 1:13 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; Stanley Bolitho Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Bolitho Surname. Hi My Bolithos actually came from St Keverne not Wendron. Although some did land up there. Thomas Bolitho 1754 m Avice Thomas Roberts. My connection is their Grandson John Bolitho 1793 who married Mary Rule. Her parents were Peter Rule and Mary Trezise which is my line. So not necessarily all Bolithos come only from Wendron. On 11 Aug 2n is their014 20:33, "Stanley Bolitho via" < cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello Michelle; I am afraid I cannot add much to your personal Bolitho > connection except to say all Bolithos do indeed come from Wendron. > Bolitho is merely the name for a scattering of 2 or 3 farms etc just > behind Camborne & Troon - blink and you've missed it! Nearly all the > family (or > families) stayed in Crowam, Wendron or Constantine, all nearby parishes. In > 1735 a James Bolitho married Mary Richards at Madron, and this was the only > Bolitho line in West Cornwall, and I am some 7 Generations down from > that marriage. Strangely the Christian names from then are James, > Thomas, James, > Thomas, James, then my father John and then me. I believe that James > Bolitho who married Mary Richards was the son of William Bolitho > baptised in > Wendron on August 2nd 1702. I know there can be no direct connection > in our > families, but this is a snippet of early Bolitho background. Most of > the family were either tinners or tanners. There is a wealthy branch > of the family who became and still are bankers. I hope this is of > interest to you, cheers from Horton in a sunny and showery Penzance. > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Kohler > via > Sent: 23 July 2014 14:58 > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Bolitho Surname. > > G'Day from Down Under, > I have only recently returned to my research which began in 1991 but, > unfortunately life got in the way in 2003 and it was all boxed up and > put away, I tried to return in 2006 & 2009 with no luck. I am now in a position > to devote every waking moment to attempting to catch up with all of > the "newly" available records and to contact the seemingly impossible > number of > new related researchers who are now equally devoted to locating their > ancestors. > > Unfortunately the majority of my paper-work did not survive the long storage > > and the 5" & 3" floppy discs...Well Yeh! Exactly!, my grandaughters thought > they were a great joke! I did have a fair bit backed-up on CDs but it > is so > out of date that today's programs are not able to read it > > My maternal Grandfather, Richard Lawrence DAVEY, was a Cornish farmer, born > in Falmouth whose family originated in Zennor and Constantine areas. > And, although his wife, Madeline Desiree BAYNES, was born in > high-class London, I > > have found one of her main lines to be a Quaker line from East Looe > and Sennen, they emigrated to Sydney in 1914 and my mother was the > youngest of their 13 children. > > As for my connection to the BOLITHO name? My 10x grt Grandmother was > an Elizabeth BOLITHO, born about 1555-60, possibly in Wendron as she supposedly > > married there in about 1579 to Peter CARNBELLACK. I am descended from their > son, Alexander who was baptised in Wendron on 26 Nov 1587. > > I have never found Elizabeth Bolitho's birth or parentage and I must > admit that I have not yet taken the time to follow through on her line > as I have over 370 other ancestral lines on my Mother's side to catch > up on, and that > does not include the mother's who have no surnames! I was kinda hoping that > with all of the new records and researchers, perhaps some-one has > found these details in some obscure place that I was unable to access > all those years ago or knows where her family have originated and > which line might be > hers??? > > I am more than happy to swap descendancy lines with anyone whose work > connects with mine. I am most interested in learning more of the > history of > the Bolitho family from Wendron and surrounds and adding to my > long-neglected files. > > Seeya Soonly, > Michelle Kahler, > Qld, Australia. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > In reply to: > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:33:15 +1000 > From: "Joe Flood" <joeflood1@outlook.com> > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Bolitho surname > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY179-DS15A009ACE55F589067BCCAE3F30@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Looking at the 1522 Military Survey, which is usually a good place to start > for old surnames, there is only one Bolitho man ? John Beny Bolloytho > in Menheniot. I don?t see the name continuing here > > Bolitho is a small village near Praze-an-Beeble Crowan, where my > ancestors come from. > >From the 1535 Tinners Muster Roll, we have Thomas Bolythowe, billman, > >in Crowan. This is probably the family founder. > > By 1600 the family were in Wendron, Helston and Redruth, by 1609 in St > Anthony Meneage, by 1650 in London > > The family were initially tanners, who moved into lime-burning and tin > smelting before becoming bankers. They started the Mounts Bay > Commercial Bank. In the 1800s they were in business with ?my? Coodes > in the East Cornwall Bank, which issued its own banknotes, now prized by collectors. > > It looks as if the family may descend from a single relatively recent man. > > Joe Flood > > On 16/07/2014 16:37, cornish-gen@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Hello list; I am wondering how long the Bolitho surname has been around. I > > found a reference in a transcript of Crowan parish records in the > > early 1600s, which sadly I have mislaid. The name of course refers > > to what then > > would have been a very small settlement in Crowan parish. Even now > > it is not much ore than basically a couple of farms. I have seen > > references also to > > licenced tin streamers named Bolitho in the 18th century. Some 50 > > years ago nearly all Bolithos in the county were to be found either > > here in West Cornwall or around the Troon area, which is the "home" > > territory. > > Unfortunately from my family point of view all my grandfather's > > siblings went to Oz, so father had no Bolitho cousins here at all. > > Any gen on the early name would be most welcome. Cheers Horton in > > warm and cloudy Penzance. > > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tom Not all exactly See <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/#Probate> And <http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/community-and-living/records-archives-and-cornish-studies/cornwall-record-office/cornwall-record-office-collections/public-records/probate-courts-%28pre-1858%29/> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 18/08/2014 10:19, Liz & Tom Thompson via wrote: > > Hello, > > I understood that all Cornish wills had been destroyed during the bombing of > Exeter. Was that not the case? > > Tom Thompson, > St Agnes.

Hello, I understood that all Cornish wills had been destroyed during the bombing of Exeter. Was that not the case? Tom Thompson, St Agnes.