Sunday 19 January 1851. Philip Renfree RICKARDS, Widower, builder, son of Joseph RICKARDS also builder to Jane KNIGHT, Spinster, daughter of William Torrence KNIGHT mariner, both resident in Flushing. Peter OPC Mylor and Flushing -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jwmos99@msn.com Sent: Friday, 19 March 2010 3:09 PM To: cornish@rootsweb.com; cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 24 Jan 1851 BMDs WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER - transcribed by Julia Mosman 24 January 1851 MARRIAGES At Mylor, on Sunday last, Mr. PHILIP R. RICHARDS, to Miss KNIGHT, both of Flushing.

Dear Cornish-Gen friends: This was posted in the latest Cornish-Gen Digest : WEST BRITON & CORNWALL ADVERTISER 24 Jan 1851 transcribed by Julia Mosman Deaths At Redruth, ........... and the widow of Mr. WILLIAM PHILLIPS, aged 62 years. [NB: No date mentioned.] I am trying to figure out if this possibly could be my ELIZABETH WITHIEL PHILLIPS. I have her in the census as follows: (What was the date of the Census?) All the people enumerated are her children. 1851 England Census Redruth, Cornwall 122 Angove Terrace Name: Elizabeth Phillips, Widow Estimated Birth Year: abt 1785 Relation: Head Elizabeth Phillips 66 b. Perranzabuloe, Cornwall Mary Ann Phillips 38 b. Illogan, Cornwall Samuel Phillips 32 b. Illogan [NB: This is James W....transcribed wrong] Pattern maker and employs 4 men and boys Nanny Phillips 31 b. Illogan , Cornwall I have her in my file as born possibly between 1790 and 1791. This newspaper record certainly could fit and she have been a little older than I thought , but how could she have died in Jan 1851 and been in the 1851 census? Tis a puzzlement! And, does anyone have any information on her children? Thanks for ideas...Meli in Texas

Hi Meli,   I will try to help you. Regards,   Kathy opc Redruth --- On Fri, 3/19/10, Meli <melibob4@texasbb.com> wrote: From: Meli <melibob4@texasbb.com> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Death of widow of William Phillips, Redruth To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 9:43 PM Dear Cornish-Gen friends: This was posted in the latest Cornish-Gen  Digest : WEST BRITON & CORNWALL ADVERTISER 24 Jan 1851  transcribed by Julia Mosman Deaths At Redruth, ...........  and the widow of Mr. WILLIAM PHILLIPS, aged 62 years.  [NB:  No date mentioned.] I am trying to figure out if this possibly could be my ELIZABETH  WITHIEL PHILLIPS.  I have her in the census as follows:  (What was the date of the Census?)   All the people enumerated are her children. 1851 England Census  Redruth, Cornwall       122 Angove Terrace Name:  Elizabeth Phillips,  Widow Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1785        Relation:  Head Elizabeth Phillips      66   b. Perranzabuloe, Cornwall Mary Ann Phillips      38   b.  Illogan, Cornwall Samuel Phillips           32   b. Illogan     [NB:  This is James W....transcribed wrong]                                                              Pattern maker and employs 4 men and boys Nanny Phillips             31   b. Illogan , Cornwall I have her in my file as born possibly between 1790 and 1791.  This newspaper record certainly could fit and she have been a little older than I thought , but how could she have died in Jan 1851 and been in the 1851 census?  Tis a puzzlement!  And, does anyone have any information on her children? Thanks for ideas...Meli in Texas ------------------------------- Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The name grabbed me.....and ref to Poulton-le-Fylde , near where I was born . So.....as gardening looks less attractive today , I focussed on "Keets RISK" . Keats Robinson RISK was born in Saltash, Cornwall in 1816/5 . In SQ 1840 he married Constance Elizabeth POOLE , registered in Bangor . She was born in 1816/5 in Llangefni , Anglesey . 1841 finds them together in Greenwich , where he was working at The Royal Hospital to Seamen . In 1851 they are at 37 Market Place , Poulton-le-Fylde , Lancs . K R R is now a Surgeon and Physician . They now have two daughters : Constance Carolina Field RISK b '47 and Lucy Margaret Allford RISK b '51. In 1861 they are in Blackpool . K R R dies there in 1873 . In 1881 , the widowed Constance E , and Lucy M A are livingin Anglesey withC's also-widowed mother, M B POOLE who is 94 !! I hope this info will be of help to someone..... Best wishes Pat Oliver

Just a thought, I read somewhere recently that Nicholls is a Roma surname. Peter -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PJN Sent: Friday, 19 March 2010 11:25 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] MAY Family of Botus Fleming and Landulph Thank you Judy, Appreciate your thoughts muchly ...and of course you are correct in your thinking....and possibilities... Our Nicholls, unlike many of the Cornish Nicholls, have their roots in Somerset - still much work to be done on this Our Nicholls also have a nomadic gene.....just leaving us hints where they have been, without a big footprint!!! Best wishes Pamela On 19 March 2010 10:29, judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: > I think this illustrates a problem we all have. We grasp these little > snippets of information recorded at ten year intervals - and trade > directories entries if we're lucky. Even though we know that the > census only records the situation on the night and that directories > can be well out of date, it's very hard not to form a picture that we > only revise when we get new 'facts'. It's possible that Jane and > William had separated - and equally likely that they were both away > from the marital home on census night 1861. It could be there was > only a bed for Jane, or that the boarding house only had a small room > - or maybe William didn't get on with his son in law and made an > excuse about business keeping him away. Perhaps William's business > was doing so well that he left a manager in charge... > > I'm sure more facts will emerge about this family. The mid 19thC was > a period of economic growth and tradesmen provided for their > retirement and their families through saving. In the absence of the > financial products we have today that very often meant buying houses. > It may be that a will or the voters' roll will reveal property > interests that needed to be taken care of. > > > Judy > > > > > On 18 Mar 2010, at 19:00, PJN wrote: > > > You have just provided a gem ....thank you so much! > > William Hodges Nicholls was of course a confectioner - we have from > > the 1841 > > census in Kenwyn where he was living with his wife and children; > > 1851 he is > > missing; 1861 he is boarding in the area - while his wife Jane nee > > Rundle > > was living with their daughter Jane, wife of George May - no > > reference to > > her thereafter, which suggests she died...and George and Jane May > > emigrated > > to Australia in 1869 on the Cadduceus [along with Thomas Odgers > > Nicholls and > > his wife Mary Courtis Searle]; 1871 William is boarding [possibly > > with his > > sister and her husband] in Truro, and died soon after. > > I would be so grateful for a reference to the 1851 census / or even > > a copy > > if you have it.... > > I did find WHN listed in the Birmingham Trade Directory as a > > confectioner > > 1855 Section B Page 430...seems that Mr N and Mrs N may have been > > separated.... > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Pamela in Victoria, Australia ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Judy, Appreciate your thoughts muchly ...and of course you are correct in your thinking....and possibilities... Our Nicholls, unlike many of the Cornish Nicholls, have their roots in Somerset - still much work to be done on this Our Nicholls also have a nomadic gene.....just leaving us hints where they have been, without a big footprint!!! Best wishes Pamela On 19 March 2010 10:29, judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: > I think this illustrates a problem we all have. We grasp these little > snippets of information recorded at ten year intervals - and trade > directories entries if we're lucky. Even though we know that the > census only records the situation on the night and that directories > can be well out of date, it's very hard not to form a picture that we > only revise when we get new 'facts'. It's possible that Jane and > William had separated - and equally likely that they were both away > from the marital home on census night 1861. It could be there was > only a bed for Jane, or that the boarding house only had a small room > - or maybe William didn't get on with his son in law and made an > excuse about business keeping him away. Perhaps William's business > was doing so well that he left a manager in charge... > > I'm sure more facts will emerge about this family. The mid 19thC was > a period of economic growth and tradesmen provided for their > retirement and their families through saving. In the absence of the > financial products we have today that very often meant buying houses. > It may be that a will or the voters' roll will reveal property > interests that needed to be taken care of. > > > Judy > > > > > On 18 Mar 2010, at 19:00, PJN wrote: > > > You have just provided a gem ....thank you so much! > > William Hodges Nicholls was of course a confectioner - we have from > > the 1841 > > census in Kenwyn where he was living with his wife and children; > > 1851 he is > > missing; 1861 he is boarding in the area - while his wife Jane nee > > Rundle > > was living with their daughter Jane, wife of George May - no > > reference to > > her thereafter, which suggests she died...and George and Jane May > > emigrated > > to Australia in 1869 on the Cadduceus [along with Thomas Odgers > > Nicholls and > > his wife Mary Courtis Searle]; 1871 William is boarding [possibly > > with his > > sister and her husband] in Truro, and died soon after. > > I would be so grateful for a reference to the 1851 census / or even > > a copy > > if you have it.... > > I did find WHN listed in the Birmingham Trade Directory as a > > confectioner > > 1855 Section B Page 430...seems that Mr N and Mrs N may have been > > separated.... > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Pamela in Victoria, Australia

Have you checked your unusual name against those entered in the register of one name studies www.one-name.org Should your contacts prove to be negative perhaps you could consider helping those one name studies by providing whatever information you have in case it allows links to be established with other interested parties ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Donohue" <> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 8:14 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] EDWARDS & LYNE FAMILIES. > > I have replied to a request in the West Briton and wondered if anybody is > researching any of the following families. > > I am not sure how accurate the information is regarding parishes but > something might ring bells so will include them. > Whilst it is not impossible they do seem to be a bit scattered. > > William EDWARDS of Botus Fleming- Married Jane LYNE of Quethiock in 1855 > (in > Quethiock). > 12 children from this marriage > They then moved to Derbyshire after their 8th child was born. > > Parents of William were > > John EDWARDS born Sithney married Anne WEST? of Sithney. > 5 children. > > Father of John EDWARDS was probably John EDWARDS of Penzance who married > Ann > LEGGO of Penzance. > > The Lyne family I will put on a separate mail. > > Diane > Kerrier-St Keverne,Manaccan,St Anthony Meneage > Penwith-Perranuthnoe,Zennor > http://cornwall-opc.org/ > http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ > > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The LYNE side. Father of Jane William LYNE of Menhenniot married a Mary BARTLETT of Menheniot. 6 children. William's parents William LYNE of St Cleer married Elizabeth DENHAM of Stonehouse,Devon William's father William LYNE married Grace RUNDLE of St Cleer 4 children. William's father John LYNE married Mary MUTTON St Cleer 7 children. John's parents Samuel LYNE St Cleer married Elizabeth SILBY 8 CHILDREN. The line goes back from here, mainly Menheniot with brides from St Mabyn and St Neot. I would be grateful for any information that might be forthcoming and I can put you in touch with the person concerned. Diane Kerrier-St Keverne,Manaccan,St Anthony Meneage Penwith-Perranuthnoe,Zennor http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/

I have replied to a request in the West Briton and wondered if anybody is researching any of the following families. I am not sure how accurate the information is regarding parishes but something might ring bells so will include them. Whilst it is not impossible they do seem to be a bit scattered. William EDWARDS of Botus Fleming- Married Jane LYNE of Quethiock in 1855 (in Quethiock). 12 children from this marriage They then moved to Derbyshire after their 8th child was born. Parents of William were John EDWARDS born Sithney married Anne WEST? of Sithney. 5 children. Father of John EDWARDS was probably John EDWARDS of Penzance who married Ann LEGGO of Penzance. The Lyne family I will put on a separate mail. Diane Kerrier-St Keverne,Manaccan,St Anthony Meneage Penwith-Perranuthnoe,Zennor http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/

Hi Pamela Actually William H Nicholls was missing on the 1841 census, in Kenwyn on the 1851 census and then the 1861 and 1871 census show a William H Nicholls of MIDDX LONDON which is why I asked if he was a relation. You obviously think this was the same person, possibly but strange that he started giving his birth place as London. I see you are suggesting that Elizabeth Warring was William's sister. I only show him as having a brother, John 1802 Wells and Elizabeth from the 1871 census came from Newlyn East. Of course the other confusing thing is that there were 2 William Nicholls deaths registered in Truro between 1871 and 1881, one showing he was born c1800 and the other c1801. This also point to the William H of london being a different one to William H of Somerset. The censuses are all available on freencensus http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl By the way the town George May was born in is actually Cullompton Devon, it's spelt incorrectly in the census. Here are copies of the censuses 1841 census Trennick Rowe St Clements Trennick Rowe,1, Jane Nicholls,,35,Dressmaker,In county, John Nicholls,14,,Clerk,In county, Jane Nicholls,,10,,In county, Susan Nicholls,,7,,In county, James Nicholls,4,,,In county, Elizabeth Nicholls,,3,,In county, Thomas Nicholls,1,,,In county, 1851 census Carclew Street Kenwyn NICHOLLS William Head M M 47 Confectioner Somerset - Taunton NICHOLLS Jane Wife M F 47 Wife Devon - St Eve NICHOLLS Jane Dau U F 20 Staymaker Cornwall - Truro NICHOLLS James Son U M 15 Solicitors Clerk Cornwall - Truro NICHOLLS Elizabeth Dau U F 13 Scholar Cornwall - Truro NICHOLLS Thomas Son U M 12 Scholar Cornwall - Truro MESSIER Joseph Lodger W M 37 Confectioner Overseas - Foreign - Burgundy Tournay 1861 census Quay Street Truro DYER Charles Head M M 35 Shipwright Cornwall - Mevagessy DYER Amelia Wife M F 29 Shipwrights Wife Cornwall - Truro DYER Amelia Dau - F 4 Cornwall - Truro DYER Charles Son - M 1 Cornwall - Truro NICHOLLS William H Boardr M M 57 Confectioner London - 1861 River Stree Kenwyn MAY George Head M M 27 Sadler Devon - Collumpton MAY Jane Wife M F 30 - Cornwall - Truro MAY Mary J Dau S F 4 Scholar Cornwall - Truro MAY John G Son S M 2 Scholar Cornwall - Truro MAY Susan Dau S F 8m - Cornwall - Truro NICHOLLS Jane Mtrlaw M F 56 Formerly Dressmaker Devon - St Ewe 1971 census Truro St Mary WARRING Robert Head M M 59 Cellarman Cornwall - Lewanick WARRING Elizabeth Wife M F 61 Laundress Cornwall - Newlyn East NICHOLLS William Boardr W M 68 Confectioner Middlesex - London City Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "PJN" <oysterffisher@gmail.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] MAY Family of Botus Fleming and Landulph > Hi Peter... > You have just provided a gem ....thank you so much! > William Hodges Nicholls was of course a confectioner - we have from the > 1841 > census in Kenwyn where he was living with his wife and children; 1851 he > is > missing; 1861 he is boarding in the area - while his wife Jane nee Rundle > was living with their daughter Jane, wife of George May - no reference to > her thereafter, which suggests she died...and George and Jane May > emigrated > to Australia in 1869 on the Cadduceus [along with Thomas Odgers Nicholls > and > his wife Mary Courtis Searle]; 1871 William is boarding [possibly with his > sister and her husband] in Truro, and died soon after. > I would be so grateful for a reference to the 1851 census / or even a copy > if you have it.... > I did find WHN listed in the Birmingham Trade Directory as a confectioner > 1855 Section B Page 430...seems that Mr N and Mrs N may have been > separated.... > Pamela

Hi Peter... You have just provided a gem ....thank you so much! William Hodges Nicholls was of course a confectioner - we have from the 1841 census in Kenwyn where he was living with his wife and children; 1851 he is missing; 1861 he is boarding in the area - while his wife Jane nee Rundle was living with their daughter Jane, wife of George May - no reference to her thereafter, which suggests she died...and George and Jane May emigrated to Australia in 1869 on the Cadduceus [along with Thomas Odgers Nicholls and his wife Mary Courtis Searle]; 1871 William is boarding [possibly with his sister and her husband] in Truro, and died soon after. I would be so grateful for a reference to the 1851 census / or even a copy if you have it.... I did find WHN listed in the Birmingham Trade Directory as a confectioner 1855 Section B Page 430...seems that Mr N and Mrs N may have been separated.... Pamela On 19 March 2010 05:05, Peter Cox <peter@simbatech.net> wrote: > Hi Pamela > I'll pull up the Feock members for you and mail them. > Have a Nicholls question for you too. > Do you know who was the William H Nicholls confectionor London who appears > on the Truro 1861 and 1871 census? Seem a remarkable coincidence with the > William Hodges Nicholls confectioner Somerset who was on the earlier > census. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "PJN" <oysterffisher@gmail.com> > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:49 PM > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] MAY Family of Botus Fleming and Landulph > > > > Good Morning Peter..... > > I suspect that there may be a connection > > However, whole we know that George May [born Collumpton, Devon] married > > Jane Nicholls...his father was John May....his mother Mary...possibly > > Dellbridge.. > > Are you able to tell me more about the Feock May family? > > > > Pamela > > > > On 15 March 2010 23:44, Peter Cox <peter@simbatech.net> wrote: > > > >> Hi Pamela > >> > >> Were John and George May related to the May family out of Feock who were > >> ancestors of mine? > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> > > ------------------------------- > > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information > > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Pamela in Victoria, Australia

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER - transcribed by Julia Mosman 31 JANUARY 1851 - BIRTHS At Falmouth, on the 16th instant, the wife of Mr. ELIAS JOHNSTON, jeweller, of a daughter. At Belmont Cottage, Falmouth, on the 21st instant, the wife of Mr. HAMTON, of a daughter. At St. Mary's Scilly, on the 19th instant, the wife of Mr. J.W. WOOD, of a daughter, and the wife of Mr. WOODLEY, of a daughter; on the 20th, the wife of Mr. WM. MUMFORD, of a son; and on Friday last, the wife of Mr. CHALRES TREGARTHEN, of a son. At Ludgvan, on the 24th instant, the wife of Mr. T. FREETHY, of a daughter. At Hayle, the wife of Mr. JOSEPH MURLEY, of a son; and the wife of Mr. PAUL GOLDSWORTHY, of a daughter. At Bell Cottage, near Redruth, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. FRANCIS TUCKFIELD, of a daughter. At Chacewater, on the 14th instant, the wife of Mr. OCTAVIUS POLLARD, wheelwright, of a daughter. At Salem, near Chacewater, on the 18th instant, the wife of Mr. JAMES ROWE, of a son. At Trevenson House, in the parish of Illogan, on Sunday last, the wife of C.A. REYNOLDS, Esq., of a son. At Perran, on the 22nd instant, the wife of Mr. JAMES PEARCE, of a son. At Liskeard, on the 18th instant, the wife of Mr. PEARSON, master of the British School, of a son. At Liskeard, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. BARRET, draper, of a daughter; and on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. SANSOM, draper, of a daughter. At Hessenford, in the parish of St. Germans, on the 19th instant, the wife of Mr. JOHN SCANTLEBURY, of a daughter. At Bridge's Shop, in the parish of St. Germans, on the 22nd instant, the wife of Mr. JOHN HAWKE, of a son. At Plymouth, on the 11th instant, the wife of Mr. THOS. POPE of a son. At Lew House, Devon, on Friday last, the wife of J. NICHOLSON VOWLER, Esq., of a son. At Hele, Lifton, on the 8th instant, the wife of the Rev. C. CARPENTER, of a daughter. At Beauchamp House, Leamington, on the 20th instant, the wife of R. McALPINE Esq., of  a son. At the Vicarage, Brimpton, Berks., on Friday last, the wife of the Rev. E. GOLDING, of a son. At MITCHELDEAN, Gloucestershire, on the 23rd instant, the wife of J.J.G. BORLASE, Esq., of a son. At Naples, on the 8th instant, the wife of JOHN DUNN GARDNER, Esq. of a son. MARRIAGES At Falmouth, on Sunday last, Mr. THOMAS MATTHEWS, blacksmith, to Miss MARY WILLIAMS, both of that town. At the Wesleyan Chapel, St. Austell, on Saturday last, Mr. JOHN VIVIAN, to MARY ANN, eldest daughter of Mr. EDMUND PAUL. At Liskeard, on the 23rd instant, Mr. WILLIAM BRENDON, druggist, to Miss MOON, both of that place. At St. Kew, on the 23rd instant, Mr. JOHN HOSKIN, of St. Teath, to Miss GRACE WILLIAMS, of the former parish. At Advent, on the 23rd instant, Mr. HENRY FERRET, of Lanteglos, to Miss CHARITY HAWKEN, of the former place. At Antony, on the 23rd instant, Lieut. F.H. STEVENS, of the Steam Reserve,at Devonport, to SARAH AUGUSTA, youngest daughter of WILLIAM CREAK, Esq. At the Registrar's Office, Bristol, on the 21st instant, JAMES, son of Mr. JOHN STYLING, shoemaker, of that city, to MARY ANNE, second daughter of Mr. FRANCIS VINCENT, of Kilkhampton, in this county. At Haseley, Warwickshire, on the 23rd instant, by the Rev. T. HADOW, WILLIAM LUCAS, Esq., eldest son of WILLIAM OWEN LUCAS, Esq., of Taunton Place, Regent's Park, London, to HENRIETTA, eldest daughter of the late Rev. LEONARD JARVIS BOOR, of Bodmin. At St. Margaret's, Barking, Essex, on the 23rd instant, by the Hon. and Rev. ROBERT LIDDELL, RICHARD HENRY, eldest son of ARCHER RYLAND, Esq.,  of Camberwell, to ELLEN, eldest surviving daughter of the late Rev. JOSEPH FAYRER, Vicar of St. Teath, in this county, and sister of the late Rev. ROBERT FAYRER, Incumbent of Emmanuel, Camberwell. At St. Marylebone, on the 16th instant, Mr. JAMES WILSHIN, of Limehouse, to ELIZABETH TRIVETT, youngest daughter of J. VIVIAN, Esq., of Aberdeen Place. DEATHS At Truro, on the 16th instant, EMILY, eldest surviving daughter of the late Mr. PARKYN, draper, aged 19 years. At Truro, on the 21st instant, Mr. SAMUEL PLYMING, aged 81 years; and on Sunday last, Mr. WILLIAM WHITFORD, painter, aged 45 years. At Penryn, on the 23rd instant, MARY, youngest daughter of Mr. A. TRURAN, aged 5 years; and on Tuesday last, Mr. RAPSON, miller, aged 19 years. At Falmouth, on the 23rd instant, ELIZA, youngest daughter of Mr. HICKS, mercer &c., aged 10 years. At Ludgvan, on the 21st instant, Capt. MATTHEW CURNOW, late agent of Wheal Mary Mine, aged 67 years; and SIMON, son of Mr. SIMON SEMMENS, aged 2 years. At Redruth, on Saturday last, Mrs. TONKIN, of the Pendarves Arms, aged 64 years. At Dudnance, in the parish of Illogan, on Friday last, ELLEN, only daughter of Capt. JOSEPH EUDEY, aged 2 years. At Higher Bal, St. Agnes, last week, Mrs. MARY MARTIN, aged 95 years. At Cox, Perranzabuloe, last week, Mrs. MARY KERNICK, aged 34 years. At Roche, on Saturday last, HANNAH, wife of Mr. THOMAS TRETHEWEY, shoemaker, aged 25 years; and on Sunday last, Mrs. RETALLACK, aged 86 years. At Moyles, in the parish of St. Minver, the daughter of Mr. BROWN,aged 2 years. At Fowey, Mrs. PENELOPE NETHERTON, aged 85 years. At Liskeard, on the 19th instant, Mr. WILLIAM BORROW, aged 31 years. At Liskeard, on Friday last, WM. GLENCROSS, Esq., aged 67 years. At Boscastle, on Friday last, Miss ELIZABETH ANN MOYSE, aged 18 years. At Callington, on Tuesday last, THOMAS, son of Mr. H. WRIGHT, boot and shoe maker, aged 20 years. At Morice Town, Devonport, on the 21st instant, the Rev. WILLIAM SHERMAN, late Curate of Churchstow, and sometime Perpetural Curate of Welcome, Devon, aged 54 years. At Devonport, on Friday last, Mr. DAVID PARAMORE, formerly a wine and spirit merchant in that town, aged 59 years. At Plymouth, on the 22nd instant, the Rev. R. KINGDON of St. John's College, Cambridge, and who formerly held the University Travelling Fellowship, aged 78 years. At Summerlands, near Exeter, on the 19th instant, MARGASRET, youngest daughter of the late JOHN BARING, Esq., of Mount Radford. In London, on the 18th instant, Miss MARY DUCKHAM, of Falmouth, aged 84 years. At Cardigan, on the 20th instant, EDMUND, eldest son of Mr. SNELL, of H.M. Customs, late of Penryn, aged 9 years. Drowned, off Galway, on the 14th instant, Capt. WILLIAM TONKIN, of the schooner "Zibiah," aged 59 years. At Valparaiso, on the 8th of October last, Lieut. GROSVENOR BUNSTER, R.N., of this county, aged 64 years.

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER - transcribed by Julia Mosman 24 January 1851 BIRTHS At Truro, on the 15th instant, the wife of Mr. WILLIAM GREENWOOD, of a son. At Tregew, in the parish of Feock, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. JOHN MAGOR, of a son. At Casvey, in the parish of Gwennap, on the 14th instant, the wife of Mr. JOHN PAINTER, of a son. At Redruth, the wife of JOHN LUKE PETER, Esq., solicitor, of a son. At Redruth, the wife of Mr. THOMAS ADAMS, farmer, of a daughter; the wife of Mr. WILLIAM WALES, cabinet-maker, of a son; and the wife of Mr. G. REYNOLDS, tailor, of a son. At Gwinear, the wife of Mr. JOHN THOMAS, of a son. At Gulval, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. HENRY RICH, tailor, of a son. At Hayle, on the 14th instant, the wife of Mr. JAMES MORSHEAD, of a daughter. At Riviere, Hayle, on the 16th instant, the wife of the Rev. JAMES FUGE, minister of Godolphin chapel, Breage, of a daughter. At Hayle, on the 16th instant, the wife of Mr. JAMES POLINGHORNE, innkeeper, of a son. At St. Ives, on Wednesday last, the wife of Mr. THOMAS YOULDEN, gardener, of twins. At Treharrock, near Wadebridge, on the 10th instant, the wife of F. BROWN HAMBLY, Esq., of a daughter. At Camelford, on the 14th instant, the wife of Mr. DABBS, of a daughter. At East Looe, on Tuesday last, the wife of Capt. THOS. BARKER, of the schooner "Undaunted", of a son. At Hatt, near Saltash, on the 14th instant, the wife of WILLIAM SYMONS, Esq., of a daughter. At Devonport, on the 10th instant, the wife of HENRY SMITH, Esq., her Majesty's Ordnance Office, Tower, of a son. At Tavistock, on the 10th ult., the wife of Mr. RICHARD SLEEMAN, surgeon, of a daughter. At 2 Upper Eaton Street, Grosvenor Place, London, on the 11th inst., the wife of Mr. JAMES REID, of a daughter. At Mereworth Castle, on the 15th instant, Lady Le Despencer, of a daughter. At the Vicarage, Newent, Gloucestershire, the wife of the Rev. A. A. ONSLOW, of a son. At Pulton le fylde, Lancashire, on the 12th instant, the wife of KEETS RISK, Esq., of a daughter. At Templecrone Rectory, Donegal, on Saturday last, the wife of the Rev. FREDERICK CORFIELD, of a son. MARRIAGES At Mylor, on Sunday last, Mr. PHILIP R. RICHARDS, to Miss KNIGHT, both of Flushing. At Gwennap, on Wednesday last, Mr. JOHN JEFFERY, to Miss ELIZABETH TRENEAR, both of Lanner in that parish. At Madron, on the 15th instant, Mr. WILLIAM DUSTING, of St. Michael's Mount, to HELEN, third daughter of the late Mr. JAMES CUNNACK, of Penzance. At the Registrar's Office, Penzance, on Saturday last, Mr. WM. VINGOE, to Miss MARY ANN THOMAS. At St. Columb Minor, on the 16th instant, Mr. THOMAS GERRY to Miss CATHERINE JAMES, both of Newquay; and on the 18th, Mr. JAMES BURT, to Miss JANE MITCHELL, both of Newquay. At Roche, on the 14th instant, Mr. F. FRANCIS, of the Commercial Inn, to JANE, second daughter of Mr. HOOPER, of the Roche Rock Inn. At St. Minver , lately, Mr. SIMON WILCOCK, of Poundstock, to ELIZABETH, second daughter of Mr. JOHN COLEMAN, of Kierow. At Stoke, on the 1st instant, Mr. CHARLES SMART, R.N., to CAROLINE, youngest daughter of Mr. MUMFORD, of Wilcove, near Devonport. At Stoke Church, on the 14th instant, Mr. ALFRED HARRIS CARNE, son of Mr. JOSEPH CARNE, builder, Granby-street, Devonport, to Miss MATILDA RADLYE TREEBY, daughter of the late Mr. JOHN TREEBY, R.N., Trafalgar Place, Stoke. At St. Gile's, Camberwell, on the 14th instant, the Rev. RICHARD CHAMBERLAIN SMITH, incumbent of North Tamerton, in this county, to ELIZABETH SCOTT, third daughter of the late WILLIAM HITCHENS, Esq., of Camberwell Grove, Surrey. At St. Mary's Church, Ascension, on the 3rd ult., THOMAS EDWARD MOLESWORTH, Esq., surgeon, R.N., eldest son of Lieut. Colonel MOLESWORTH, R.A., to MARIANNE, daughter of the late DOVER FARRANT, Esq. At Egham, Surrey, on the 16th instant, CHARLES FREDERICK HORE, of 6 Lincoln's-inn-fields, London, and Dalwich, Surrey, second son of JAMES HORE, Esq., to FLORA NIGHTINGALL, fourth surviving daughter of the late Captain CLAVELL, R.N. At St. Mary's Swansea, on Wednesday last, Mr. TUCKER, draper, of Castle-street in that town, to JENIFER LILLY, third daughter of the late MR. HERNAMAN, of Truro, and widow of the late Mr. WM. BEER. DEATHS At Truro, on Wednesday last, Mr. MATTHEW REED, for many years the "Boots" at the Royal Hotel, in that town, aged 63 years. At Falmouth, on Wednesday last, Mr. E. SECCOMBE, cashier at Messrs. FOX's office. At Falmouth, on the 16th instant, FANNY, third daughter of Mr. W.H. MILLER, surgeon. At Helston, on Tuesday last, Mr. FREDERICK STANSMORE, of the Edinburgh Post Office, aged 25 years. At Helston, on Wednesday last, Mrs. BARBARA KENDALL, relict of the late Mr. JOHN KENDALL, aged 86 years. At Lanner, in the parish of Gwennap, on Wednesday last, Mr. CHARLES WILLIAMS, agent for the firm of Messrs. MASON and ELKINGTON. At Redruth, the infant son of Mr. JAMES RICHARDS; the son of Mr. NICHOLAS PAULL, boot and shoemaker, aged 5 years; and the widow of Mr. WILLIAM PHILLIPS, aged 62 years. At Camborne, on the 10th instant, the infant daughter of the Rev. W. W. BUTLIN. At St. Ives, on Friday last, Mr. WILLIAM MANN, aged 30 years. At Marazion, on Sunday last, ESTHER, wife of Mr. JOSEPH RICHARDS, aged 32 years. At Amelebry, in the parish of Ludgvan, on Tuesday last, Capt. MATTHEW CURNOW. At St. Just in Penwith, on the 15th instant, Mrs. MARY ELLIS, aged 70 years. At Mevagissey, on Tuesday last, MARY ELLEN, the infant daughter of the Rev. JOHN McKENNY. At Fowey, on the 3rd instant, MARY, widow fo the late Mr. JOHN SCOLLIER, aged 88 years. At Porthillick, in the parish of St. Minver, on the 10th instant, Mr. THOMAS LEGOE, aged 51 years. At Resugga, in the parish of St. Stephens in Branwell, on the 4th instant, MARY, wife of Mr. JOHN TRUSCOTT, and daughter of Mr. JAMES TRUSCOTT, Pembroke, South Wales, aged 41 years. She was beloved and respected by all who knew her. At Boscastle, Mr. WILLIAM JAMES, aged 64 years. At Woodbine Cottage, Stokeclimsland, on Sunday last, Capt. JOHN TABB, for six years the managing agent of Lamerhooe Wheal Maria and other mines, aged 37 years. At Golding's Hotel, Callington, on Monday last, Miss GIDLEY, aged 27 years. At Clifton, on the 12th instant, HEW STEUART POWELL, Esq.,late of Truro, aged 40 years. At Clifton, on the 14th instant, the Rev. Lord WILLIAM SOMERSET, son of the fifth Duke of Beaufort, canon of Bristol Catherdral, and rector of Tormarton, Gloucestershire, aged 67 years. At her residence, Denmark Hill, Surrey, on the 15th instant, Mrs. FRANCES PAYNTER, most deservedly beloved and respected, aged 88 years. At Haslar Hospital, on Friday last, deeply regretted by his family and friends, Mr. VINCENT TREGEAR,R.N., aged 64 years. The end

I think this illustrates a problem we all have. We grasp these little snippets of information recorded at ten year intervals - and trade directories entries if we're lucky. Even though we know that the census only records the situation on the night and that directories can be well out of date, it's very hard not to form a picture that we only revise when we get new 'facts'. It's possible that Jane and William had separated - and equally likely that they were both away from the marital home on census night 1861. It could be there was only a bed for Jane, or that the boarding house only had a small room - or maybe William didn't get on with his son in law and made an excuse about business keeping him away. Perhaps William's business was doing so well that he left a manager in charge... I'm sure more facts will emerge about this family. The mid 19thC was a period of economic growth and tradesmen provided for their retirement and their families through saving. In the absence of the financial products we have today that very often meant buying houses. It may be that a will or the voters' roll will reveal property interests that needed to be taken care of. Judy On 18 Mar 2010, at 19:00, PJN wrote: > You have just provided a gem ....thank you so much! > William Hodges Nicholls was of course a confectioner - we have from > the 1841 > census in Kenwyn where he was living with his wife and children; > 1851 he is > missing; 1861 he is boarding in the area - while his wife Jane nee > Rundle > was living with their daughter Jane, wife of George May - no > reference to > her thereafter, which suggests she died...and George and Jane May > emigrated > to Australia in 1869 on the Cadduceus [along with Thomas Odgers > Nicholls and > his wife Mary Courtis Searle]; 1871 William is boarding [possibly > with his > sister and her husband] in Truro, and died soon after. > I would be so grateful for a reference to the 1851 census / or even > a copy > if you have it.... > I did find WHN listed in the Birmingham Trade Directory as a > confectioner > 1855 Section B Page 430...seems that Mr N and Mrs N may have been > separated....

I am new to this list and I am looking for any information about: Mary PHEAR Birth: 1787 Death: 25 OCT 1854 in St Austell, Cornwall Father: John PHEAR <http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v97t0224&id=I2546&ti=5538> b: WFT Est. 1736-1765 Marriage 1 Philip CARLYON <http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v97t0224&id=I2544&ti=5538> b: 15 MAY 1769 Married: 27 OCT 1808 in Clovelly, Devon 1 <http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=%2Av97t0224&id=I2545&ti=5538&printer_friendly#s1> Children John CARLYON <http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v97t0224&id=I2547&ti=5538> b: 10 DEC 1809 Philip CARLYON <http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v97t0224&id=I2549&ti=5538> b: 30 DEC 1811 in Mawgan Henry CARLYON <http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v97t0224&id=I2555&ti=5538> b: 1814 in Mawgan Edmund CARLYON <http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v97t0224&id=I2553&ti=5538> b: 1819 Mary Anne CARLYON <http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=*v97t0224&id=I2620&ti=5538> b: 21 APR 1821 I am descended from Mary Anne Carlyon. I have been unable to trace her Phear ancestors. Hope someone can help. This may also be a Devon name so I will post to the Devon list as well. Tricia Port Alberni, BC Canada

Hi Jack Thanks for the reply. I believe that Joan Pengelly was the daughter of the Arthur Pengelly that I am having problems with, though I am not certain of that. I had recorded Simon Clifton as her husband. Grateful for any information you can give - Best wishes Nick Heard ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Clifton" <jwcrose@bellsouth.net> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Pengellys of Week St Mary Hi Nick: I am related to the Clifton's of WSM. Simon Clifton married Joan Pengelly 1764 in WSM, Time to go to the store, let me know if this is yours, write to me and I will reply. Cousin Jack Clifton in sunny Florida ________________________________ From: Nick Heard <heardn@blueyonder.co.uk> To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 7:48:56 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Pengellys of Week St Mary I am interested in the Pengellys of Week St Mary, particularly Arthur Pengelly who married Mary Colwill in 1738, and was probably born 1710-1715. I would like to hear from anybody who has information on the Week St Mary Pengellys, and particularly would be grateful for details of Arthurs origins. Many thanks Nick Heard ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pamela I'll pull up the Feock members for you and mail them. Have a Nicholls question for you too. Do you know who was the William H Nicholls confectionor London who appears on the Truro 1861 and 1871 census? Seem a remarkable coincidence with the William Hodges Nicholls confectioner Somerset who was on the earlier census. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "PJN" <oysterffisher@gmail.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] MAY Family of Botus Fleming and Landulph > Good Morning Peter..... > I suspect that there may be a connection > However, whole we know that George May [born Collumpton, Devon] married > Jane Nicholls...his father was John May....his mother Mary...possibly > Dellbridge.. > Are you able to tell me more about the Feock May family? > > Pamela > > On 15 March 2010 23:44, Peter Cox <peter@simbatech.net> wrote: > >> Hi Pamela >> >> Were John and George May related to the May family out of Feock who were >> ancestors of mine? >> >> Peter >> >> > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi There is a Pengelly from Week St Mary in the Malcolm McCarthy Index on the Cornwall OPC page Cheers Malc in sunny Padstow

I am interested in the Pengellys of Week St Mary, particularly Arthur Pengelly who married Mary Colwill in 1738, and was probably born 1710-1715. I would like to hear from anybody who has information on the Week St Mary Pengellys, and particularly would be grateful for details of Arthurs origins. Many thanks Nick Heard

Dear Mary I was pleased to see the address you gave re Natal Wesleyan Methodist members. I was wondering if there are any records of later members, please? My maternal grandmother's sister, Olivia POLGLASE BORN 1864 married Edwin MATTHEWS 1890 and had three children, some of whom I believe ended up in South Africa. I was wondering if there were any later records I could check, please? Edwin and Olivia had three children: Ellen Polglase MATTHEWS 1891 married Herbert B. UNWIN 1919 died 1964 Edward Polglase MATTHEWS 1893 married Dorothy ROPER died 1972 Olive Beadon MATTHEWS 1894 married Arthur John VIGURS 1921 died 1978 John VIGURS AND Olive Beadon Matthews had a daughter Joy Ninette VIGURS, born 1922, who married M.N.A.MAROUDAS who was believed to be a missionary. I have pictures of her in South Africa where she died in 1995. Her body was then repatriated to Cornwall and she was buried in Veryan in 1995. My problem is, how can I go about finding ou what happened to this family??? The sparse information was passed on by a 90-year-old cousin who gave up family history some years ago because of her poor health, and has left me to carry on!! Her husband sadly died last year and her daughter is seriously ill herself and in a wheelchair so I feel they have more than enough on their hands to be able to cope with family history! Any assistance from anywhere would be gratefully accepted!!!!! Sincerely, Pat Banks -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Hester Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2010 1:09 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton deaths, 10 Jan 1851 J T Polkinghorne ----- Original Message ----- From: "judy olsen" <copywriter@tesco.net> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: 16 March 2010 11:48 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton deaths, 10 Jan 1851 Mary Polkinghorne There was definitely a J T Polkinhorne in Natal, info on the following sites : VERULAM Victoria Natal Wesleyan-Methodist Chapel BAPTISMS 1859-1872 F. HARVEY J. HARVEY P. HARVEY E. HAMP S. HILL P. JAMES C. JACKSON A. PAUL C. PUTTERILL J. STANLEY C. SHAW W. STARR W. TODD J. THOMPSON J.T. POLKINGHORNE. www.genealogyworld.net/verulam/index.html Full text of "The colony of Natal; an official illustrated ... Mr. J. T. Polkinghorne has been appointed President of the Legislative Council, and the Hon. Mr. H. E. Stainbank was elected the Speaker of the Legislative ... www.archive.org/stream/.../colonyofnataloff00ingr_djvu.txt British Settlers in Natal - 1824-1857 J. T. Polkinghorne, and Charles Povall come to mind in this regard. William John Campbell whose abandoned allotments were in the Richmond area, ... www.shelaghspencer.org/joseph-byrne.php There was some interesting information on these sites. Mary -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 228 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message