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    1. [CORNISH-GEN] William BODINNAR - the last monoglot
    2. Liz
    3. Dolly PENTREATH is the one who received all the publicity but William BODINNAR was the last monoglot who only spoke Cornish and who could also read and write Cornish. Dolly couldn't read or write! Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset

    05/19/2010 10:09:20
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] Re Charles KENDALL c 1786 [again] UPDATE
    2. bedmonds
    3. Dear all, Not long ago I posted a message regarding a Charles KENDALL c 1786 who married Elizabeth EDMONDS in Ashburton, Devon in 1805. Well, after a lot of tooing and froing between myself and the DRO I have finally received a copy of that marriage. Charles and Elizabeth are both " otp " [should I have expected anything better? ... I sure did] The goodish little bit is that I am sure he has signed Chas. KENDALL, jun [blotchy ink marks] Now I know that either his father was a Charles KENDALL or he had at least an uncle who was born with that name. I think I am stuck now until more parishes [or OPC's] can come up with a suitable baptism c 1786. Will have to wait this one out and put this family on hold for the time being. Beverley Edmonds Researching all EDMONDS anywhere in Devon OPC Stokenham, South Pool, East Allington, Halwell, Dartington, Dean Prior

    05/19/2010 09:00:54
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] CORNISH-GEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 201
    2. judy olsen
    3. Google "Dolly Pentreath" " Daines Barrington" A bit harsh to accuse 18th/19thC antiquarians for promoting the idea of Cornish quaintness. First out of the traps on that one are possibly the Cornish themselves. Genuine piskie keyring anyone? And before anyone gets hot under the collar, I live in Scotland, home of the haggis and Nessie, where we have authentic family tartans for any surname in the world. J On 19 May 2010, at 13:58, Nick Heard wrote: > Interesting. Any documentary evidence? E.g contemporary reports? The > nineteenth century was a period of great interest in things like > language > and culture, and one would expect there to be articles about the > language > surviving when it was widely regarded as having died out. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stephen" <kernowest@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] CORNISH-GEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 201 > > >> >> This old chestnut about Dolly Pentreath seems to run and run. >> Cornish fishermen used Cornish when at sea well into the late 19th >> century - if not later. >> >> I don't think it helps to continue this story which, after all, was >> dreamed up by condescending 'gentry' from over the border who >> (like some >> tourists today) regarded things Cornish as 'quaint' and somehow >> alien to >> the 'English' way of doing things. >> Stephen >> >> >> >>> Mr. Pentreath died at Mousehole ? descendant of the last speaker of >>> Cornish?? >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    05/19/2010 08:45:09
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] CORNISH-GEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 201
    2. Nick Heard
    3. Interesting. Any documentary evidence? E.g contemporary reports? The nineteenth century was a period of great interest in things like language and culture, and one would expect there to be articles about the language surviving when it was widely regarded as having died out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen" <kernowest@yahoo.co.uk> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] CORNISH-GEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 201 > > This old chestnut about Dolly Pentreath seems to run and run. > Cornish fishermen used Cornish when at sea well into the late 19th > century - if not later. > > I don't think it helps to continue this story which, after all, was > dreamed up by condescending 'gentry' from over the border who (like some > tourists today) regarded things Cornish as 'quaint' and somehow alien to > the 'English' way of doing things. > Stephen > > > >> Mr. Pentreath died at Mousehole ? descendant of the last speaker of >> Cornish?? >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/19/2010 07:58:22
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs
    2. judy olsen
    3. I was trying to suggest that Dolly might not have been the last native speaker but the last native speaker who did not learn other languages. Apart from anything else, it is much easier to be specific about this group and when it dies out. J On 19 May 2010, at 12:52, Jean Ellis wrote: > I think that, technically at least, a native speaker is a person who > learns a language as her or his first language. Dolly may have spoken > another language after infancy. Those who learn Cornish, or French, > Italian, German, Latin, etc., later in life may be fluent speakers but > would not be native speakers. > On May 19, 2010, at 7:12 AM, judy olsen wrote: > >> Or maybe the last person who conversed in Cornish and nothing else. >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> >> On 19 May 2010, at 11:28, Michael Kiernan wrote: >> >>> "who was the last native speaker" >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN- >> request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    05/19/2010 07:09:16
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] William BODINNAR - the last monoglot
    2. thomas veale
    3. one thing for sure she was a fish wife hehehe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:09 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] William BODINNAR - the last monoglot > Dolly PENTREATH is the one who received all the publicity but William > BODINNAR was the last monoglot who only spoke Cornish and who could also > read and write Cornish. Dolly couldn't read or write! > > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/19/2010 07:04:30
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] CORNISH-GEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 201
    2. stephen
    3. This old chestnut about Dolly Pentreath seems to run and run. Cornish fishermen used Cornish when at sea well into the late 19th century - if not later. I don't think it helps to continue this story which, after all, was dreamed up by condescending 'gentry' from over the border who (like some tourists today) regarded things Cornish as 'quaint' and somehow alien to the 'English' way of doing things. Stephen > Mr. Pentreath died at Mousehole ? descendant of the last speaker of Cornish?? >

    05/19/2010 06:42:19
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs
    2. judy olsen
    3. Or maybe the last person who conversed in Cornish and nothing else. J On 19 May 2010, at 11:28, Michael Kiernan wrote: > "who was the last native speaker"

    05/19/2010 06:12:56
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs
    2. Michael Kiernan
    3. There are, today, several thousand people in Cornwall (and some around the world and some on this list) who speak Cornish. I think the question should be rephrased to "who was the last native speaker". It has generaly been accepted that it was Dolly Pentreath of Paul parish. A memorial outside the walls of the churchyard reads : "Her lieth interred DOROTHY PENTREATH, who died in 1777, said to have been the last person who conversed in the ancient Cornish, the peculiar language of this county from the earliest records till it expired in the eighteenth century, in this parish of St Paul. This stone is erected by the Prince LOUIS LUCIEN BONAPARTE, in union with the Rev. JOHN GARRETT, vicar of St Paul. June, 1860. Honour thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee. Exod. xx. 12. Gwra perthi de taz ha de mam; mal de Dythiow bethemz hyr war an tyr neb an arleth de dew ryes dees. Exod. xx. 12." In 1860, Prince Lucian Bonaparte visited Paul to ascertain what remained of the Cornish language. Together with the vicar he inserted a small granite obelisk surmounted by a Maltese cross in the churchyard wall. The above inscription is on that obelisk. "Old Dolly Portreath, as she was popularly known, retained her maiden name until her death, which occurred in her 102nd year; her husbands name was JEFFERY. She was buried in Paul churchyard, but no stone marks her grave (there is a "fabulous" story of one, which embodies a supposed epitaph in the Cornish Language). The Parish Register has the following entry in the burial section, dated 1777 : "DOROTHY JEFFERY was buried December 27th. This is the famous DOLLY PENTREATH (her maiden name) spoken of by Daines Barrington in the Archaeologia." Recent research does indicate that this is incorrect - it appears that their were people around in the early Victorian period that had a reasonable knowledge of the language. As for Mousehole. Many place names in Cornwall were anglicised by English speakers ignorant of the Cornish language. They tended to call places as it sounded to them. So it is possible that Mousehole is a mangled version of the Cornish Mo-sul, which when put into English is something to do with the sun. However, I've no knowledge of the Cornish language let alone etymology and so one of our Cornish language experts may like to comment on this. Incidently, there appears to have been another name for Mousehole - "Porth Ynnys" meaning Island Cove. Mike, Redruth.

    05/19/2010 05:28:37
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs
    2. Susan Old
    3. Two or three questions, who was and when was the last person to speak Cornish, and how does a place get to be called Mousehole? Dear Peter, It is said to be Dolly Pentreath that was the last Cornish speaker and Mousehole gets its name from the very narrow entrance to the harbour as I understand it. Regards, Susan in Wadebridge CFHS 9508 OPC for St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan & St Columb Major Parish Reconstruction up to 1891 on St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan, Padstow, St Issey, Little Petherick, St Wenn, Withiel, Egloshayle, St Breock, St Columb Major & Minor, Newlyn East, St Kew, St Mabyn & St Tudy http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2882 - Release Date: 05/18/10 19:26:00

    05/19/2010 04:20:33
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs
    2. Joy Langdon
    3. She died Dec 1777.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_Pentreath Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Peter Relph <peter@relph.org> To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 19 May, 2010 11:09:10 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs Thanks Susan, it all comes clear, do you know when Dolly passed on? Peter -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Old Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 7:21 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs Two or three questions, who was and when was  the last person to speak Cornish, and how does a place get to be called Mousehole? Dear Peter, It is said to be Dolly Pentreath that was the last Cornish speaker and Mousehole gets its name from the very narrow entrance to the harbour as I understand it. Regards, Susan in Wadebridge CFHS 9508 OPC for St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan & St Columb Major Parish Reconstruction up to 1891 on St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan, Padstow, St Issey, Little Petherick, St Wenn, Withiel, Egloshayle, St Breock, St Columb Major & Minor, Newlyn East,  St Kew, St Mabyn & St Tudy http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2882 - Release Date: 05/18/10 19:26:00 ------------------------------- Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/19/2010 04:17:40
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Cornish Miners in Brazil
    2. Rowena Gough
    3. Valma I found another link below. The WorldGenWeb Project, which has a link to regional page for South America, and this is is an on-line data repository for queries, family histories, and source records as well as being resource center to identify other on-line databases and resources to assist researchers. There is a link to a fellow doing look-ups in Brazil. http://www.worldgenweb.org/ Rowena -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim & Val Newson Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 6:58 AM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Cornish Miners in Brazil I am searching for the birth of Catharine GUMMOW in Brazil, South America. My problem is that I do not know where in Brazil her family lived. My research so far indicates that her parents, Edward and Elizabeth GUMMOW were in Brazil sometime between 1830 and 1840. Edward was a Cornish miner and the family is listed on the 1841 Census. Catharine is listed as being born "outside the census county of St Agnes". The family emigrated to South Australia in 1847, Catharine married John PERRY in 1849 and they moved to Pleasant Creek (now known as Stawell), Victoria about 1853. The birth certificate of my grandfather, Joseph PERRY, states that his mother Catharine GUMMOW was born in Brazil, South America. My main brickwall here is that I know nothing about the Cornish miners in South America, so if some kind lister could point me in the direction of any available publications, etc. I shall be most grateful. The search goes on. Valma in Berwick, Victoria Australia I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. It is completely free: www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2872 - Release Date: 05/18/10 04:26:00

    05/19/2010 03:54:35
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Cornish Miners in Brazil
    2. Rowena Gough
    3. Dear Valma Below is the only website I've found regarding Cornish folk in South America. http://projects.exeter.ac.uk/cornishlatin/usefulsourcesandlinks.htm I think it is linked to the University of Exeter. There is a lot of information on the main page with further related web links. I did join a Rootsweb list for one of the South American countries to ask for help with a person I found on the search page, and they turned gave me a web link to a graveyard. Someone was able to answer my query in halting English, and give me burial records for his wife, but that was all I was ever able to find. Best of luck with your search, Rowena -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim & Val Newson Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 6:58 AM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Cornish Miners in Brazil I am searching for the birth of Catharine GUMMOW in Brazil, South America. My problem is that I do not know where in Brazil her family lived. My research so far indicates that her parents, Edward and Elizabeth GUMMOW were in Brazil sometime between 1830 and 1840. Edward was a Cornish miner and the family is listed on the 1841 Census. Catharine is listed as being born "outside the census county of St Agnes". The family emigrated to South Australia in 1847, Catharine married John PERRY in 1849 and they moved to Pleasant Creek (now known as Stawell), Victoria about 1853. The birth certificate of my grandfather, Joseph PERRY, states that his mother Catharine GUMMOW was born in Brazil, South America. My main brickwall here is that I know nothing about the Cornish miners in South America, so if some kind lister could point me in the direction of any available publications, etc. I shall be most grateful. The search goes on. Valma in Berwick, Victoria Australia I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. It is completely free: www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2872 - Release Date: 05/18/10 04:26:00

    05/19/2010 03:37:17
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] The West Briton, 27 Jun 1851, BMDs, RATTA/RUTTER birth at Ludgvan
    2. Bill Curnow
    3. The West Briton (Friday, 27 Jun 1851) reported the following birth at Ludgvan: BIRTHS At New Mill, in the parish of Ludgvan, on the 17th inst., the wife of Mr. William RATTA, of a son. The infant was probably the child of William RUTTER, miller, and his wife Avis. William and family lived at Cucurrian, Ludgvan at the 1851 Census. There is no record of civil registration at Penzance of the birth or death of this child, suggesting that he may have been very short lived and unreported. There is no evidence of burial in the Ludgvan register, and that may further suggest that he died without baptism resulting in his being unacknowledged in the burial records. The surname RUTTER often appears as RUTTA, but RATTA is a rather unusual alternate spelling. Bill Curnow Ludgvan OPC Port Charlotte, FL, USA

    05/19/2010 02:25:35
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs
    2. Jean Ellis
    3. I think that, technically at least, a native speaker is a person who learns a language as her or his first language. Dolly may have spoken another language after infancy. Those who learn Cornish, or French, Italian, German, Latin, etc., later in life may be fluent speakers but would not be native speakers. On May 19, 2010, at 7:12 AM, judy olsen wrote: > Or maybe the last person who conversed in Cornish and nothing else. > > > J > > > > > On 19 May 2010, at 11:28, Michael Kiernan wrote: > >> "who was the last native speaker" > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    05/19/2010 01:52:04
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] unsubscribe
    2. In a message dated 5/19/2010 6:37:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, turtle@pipcom.com writes: dolly pentrath of course a fish monger of mouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Relph" <peter@relph.org> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs > Two or three questions, who was and when was the last person to speak > Cornish, and how does a place get to be called Mousehole? > > Peter > Opc Mylor and Flushing > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jwmos99@msn.com > Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 5:24 PM > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs > > > Mr. Pentreath died at Mousehole - descendant of the last speaker of > Cornish?? > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/19/2010 01:07:10
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] Cornish Miners in Brazil
    2. Jim & Val Newson
    3. I am searching for the birth of Catharine GUMMOW in Brazil, South America. My problem is that I do not know where in Brazil her family lived. My research so far indicates that her parents, Edward and Elizabeth GUMMOW were in Brazil sometime between 1830 and 1840. Edward was a Cornish miner and the family is listed on the 1841 Census. Catharine is listed as being born "outside the census county of St Agnes". The family emigrated to South Australia in 1847, Catharine married John PERRY in 1849 and they moved to Pleasant Creek (now known as Stawell), Victoria about 1853. The birth certificate of my grandfather, Joseph PERRY, states that his mother Catharine GUMMOW was born in Brazil, South America. My main brickwall here is that I know nothing about the Cornish miners in South America, so if some kind lister could point me in the direction of any available publications, etc. I shall be most grateful. The search goes on. Valma in Berwick, Victoria Australia I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. It is completely free: www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter

    05/19/2010 12:57:57
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs
    2. thomas veale
    3. dolly pentrath of course a fish monger of mouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Relph" <peter@relph.org> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs > Two or three questions, who was and when was the last person to speak > Cornish, and how does a place get to be called Mousehole? > > Peter > Opc Mylor and Flushing > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jwmos99@msn.com > Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 5:24 PM > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; cornish@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs > > > Mr. Pentreath died at Mousehole - descendant of the last speaker of > Cornish?? > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/19/2010 12:36:50
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] weekly newspaper, 27 June 1851 BMDs
    2. Mr. Pentreath died at Mousehole – descendant of the last speaker of Cornish?? WESY BRITON and CORNWALL ADVERTISER 27 JUNE 1851 BIRTHS At Truro, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Patrick BARLOW, of Esequibo, British Guiana, of a daughter. At Falmouth, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. James LAKE, bookseller, of a son; on Saturday, the wife of Mr. Thomas OLVER, of a daughter; and the wife of Mr. WEBBER, watchmaker, of a son. At Pendennis Farm, Falmouth, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. A. THOMAS, of a daughter. At New Mill, in the parish of Ludgvan, on the 17th inst., the wife of Mr. William RATTA, of a son. At Marazion, last week, the wife of Mr. Stephen SPARGOE, of a son. At Gwinear, on the 19th instant, the wife of Mr. John KNEEBONE, of a son. At Rosemundy, St. Agnes, on the 15th instant, the wife of Mr. M. MORCOM, of a daughter; and the wife of Mr. H. WHITWORTH, surgeon, of a son. At St. Austell, on the 19th instant, the wife of Mr. George ISAAC, of a daughter. At Par, on the 19th instant, the wife of Mr. James ELLERY, of a daughter; and on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. William STEVENS, of a son. At Penpellick, in the parish of Tywardreath, on the 16th instant, the wife of Mr. W. A. POWNE, of Fowey Consols Mine, of a daughter. At Plymouth, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. A. PONTEY, nurseryman, of a daughter. At the Vicarage, Dawlish, on the 15th instant, the wife of the Rev. E. FURSDON, of a daughter. At Crediton, on the 15th instant, the wife of Mr. HUGO, surgeon, of a daughter. At Great Percy Street, Pentonville, London, on the 18th instant, the wife of Mr. Frederick LEWIS, advertising agent, of a daughter. MARRIAGES At Crowan, on the 19th instant, Mr. Charles P. ROGERS, of Mawgan, to Eliza Paull, second daughter of Mr. W. P. JEWELL, merchant, of Nancegollan, in the former parish. At Madron, on Tuesday last, Mr. John WALLIS to Miss Elizabeth Grace GOODMAN, both of Penzance. At the Wesleyan Chapel, Hayle, on Saturday last, Mr. Thomas NOBLE to Miss Elizabeth MILES. At Lelant, on Wednesday last, Mr. John HOLMAN, of Camborne, to Miss Elizabeth MOORSHEAD, of Lelant. At Redruth, on Friday last, by the Rev. J. W. HAWKSLEY, Mr. William TONKIN, Master of the National School, Redruth, to Miss Amelia TREVENS. At St. Agnes, on Tuesday last, Mr. Francis THOMAS, to Miss Mary FIRSTBROOK, both of that place. At All Souls, Langham Place, on the 10th instant, Lord John MANNERS, M.P., second son of the Duke of Rutland, to Catherine Louisa Georgina, only daughter of the late Lieut. Colonel MARLEY, C.B., and granddaughter of the late Catherine Maria, Countess Dowager of Charleville. On the 17th instant, the Rev. William Symons NEWMAN, of Tavistock, to Catherine Sarah, fifth daughter of Frederick WHITAKER, Esq., of Bampton, in the county of Oxford. On the 17th instant, by the Rev. Dr. MOLESWORTH, Vicar of Rochdale, the Rev. Rennell Francis Wynn MOLESWORTH, to Eleanor Jane, only daughter of the Rev. John HILTON, of Sarre Court, Kent. At Hampton, Oxfordshire, on the 17th instant, the Rev. William Symons NEWMAN, of Wadham College, Oxford, master of the Grammar School, Tavistock, to Catherine Sarah, fifth daughter of Frederick WHITAKER, Esq., of Bampton. [There were two notices of this marriage, with just slight variations, in this issue.] DEATHS At Trennick, near Truro, on the 19th instant, Mr. e. A. BICE, aged 38 years. At Tresillian, near Truro, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. Francis JOHNS, aged 24 years. At Treluswell, near Penryn, on Wednesday last, the youngest daughter of Mr. Joseph ROWE, farmer At Penryn, on Monday last, the infant daughter of Mr. GREY, merchant. At Greenbank, in the parish of Germoe, the residence of his father, on Saturday last, John, eldest son of Mr. John HARRY, aged 26 years. At Penzance, on Friday last, Mr. Nicholas RICHARDS, aged 78 years; and on Monday, Mrs. Paul KEMP. At Penzance, on Friday last, Eleanora Joanna, third daughter of the late Rev. Robert DILLON, Vicar of Gulval. At Zennor, on Monday last, Mr. James ROWE, aged 56 years. At Mousehole, on the 19th instant, Mr. N. PENTREATH, aged 48 years. At Marazion, on Saturday last, Mr. Francis THOMAS, engineer, aged 45 years. At St. Ives, on Wednesday last, the widow of the late James HALSE, Esq., aged 71 years. At Hayle, on Sunday last, Mr. Richard WEARNE, aged 80 years; for upwards of forty of which he was a class leader in the Wesleyan Methodist Society. At Lelant, on Monday last, Mrs. Martha HOSKING, aged 54 years. At Camborne, on the 15th instant, Catherine eldest daughter of Mr. George BENNETTS, farmer, of Race, aged 21 years. At Pengegon, near Camborne, on the 18th instant, Grace, wife of Mr. Thomas STEVENS, farmer, aged 59 years. At Bolennow, near Camborne, on the 19th instant, Capt. James THOMAS, jun., aged 52 years. At St. Austell, on Monday last, Mr. James RICHARDS, aged 74 years. At Bodmin, on the 19th instant, Mrs. Rachel PASMORE, aged 87 years. At Fowey, on the 19th instant, Mr. John WEBB, aged 78 years. At Cant, in the parish of St. Minver Lowlands, Mr. Richard PENGELLY, aged 34 years. At Camelford, on Tuesday last, Mr. Richard GUY, aged 41 years. At her residence, Greenwood Cottage, Exmouth, on the 4th instant, Mrs. Jane PARKER, relict of Mr. John PARKER, and only sister of Admiral TANCOCK, of Truro, aged 77 years. At the Cape of Good Hope, on the 15th of April last, Walter CLATWORTHY, Esq.,paymaster and purser of H.M.S. “Castor.” The End Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

    05/18/2010 08:23:39
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Cornish Miners in Brazil
    2. steve beazley
    3. "The Cornish Overseas" By Philip Payton ISBN1 899526 95 1 Has some information about miners in Brazil. If you can't find a copy, give me a shout. Steve

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