the term "father-in-law" seems to have been used in place of "step-father" in the case of James Treeve; QUARTER SESSIONS, 4 JULY 1851, part 5 SECOND COURT - Before C. B. Graves Sawle, Esq., Chairman TUESDAY, JULY 1 JOHN BULLEN, 23, pleaded Guilty of stealing, on the 27th of May, one woolen shirt, the property of EDMUND WOODWARD, of the parish of Illogan. Two Months' hard labour. .............. JOSEPH NICHOLLS, 12, charged with stealing, on the 10th of June, at Redruth, a gold key of a watch, the property of JAMES THOMAS, was found Guilty. After the case for the prosecution was concluded, the prisoner acknowledged that he took the key, but stated that at the time he did not know its value; and that he afterwards went to the fair at Redruth, where a woman keeping a standing sold him a few nuts for the key. The woman, who gave evidence in the case against the prisoner, was cautioned by the Chairman against so purchasing articles of value. She stated, however, that she did not know the value of the key any more than the boy did, but she would be careful not to commit herself in the future. To be Once Privately Whipped, and Discharged. .................. JOHN TYLER, 19, was found Guilty of stealing, on the 22nd of May, at the parish of Kea, a cotton shirt, the property of JOHN HARRIS, miner. Three Months' hard labour. ................. THOMAS PYNE, 22, charged with stealing at Redruth, on the 10th of June, a second-hand waistcoat, the property of ANN OPIE, dealer in second-hand clothes. The prosecutrix stated that on the 10th of June, the prisoner came to her shop to buy a waistcoat. She took several waistcoats down from a shelf and showed him, including the one in question. The prisoner looked at them, and said he would send MARY to buy one. He then left. She did not miss the waistcoat, but on the following day this waistcoat was brought to her by her daughter. -CATHERINE BULGER, another dealer in second-hand clothes, stated that she bought the waistcoat in question on the 11th of June, of the prisoner, at Paddick's lodging-house. She then took it to Mrs. Opie's, and gave it to her daughter. TREGONING, constable at Redruth, produced the waistcoat, which was identified both by the prosecutrix and Mrs. Bulger. Verdict, Guilty. Four Months' hard labour. .............. JAMES RICHARD TREEVE, 21, was found Guilty of stealing a considerable quantity of wearing apparel, the property of JOHN SULIVAN, a boatman in the preventative service, at Cawsand. The various stolen articles were found by policeman RALPHS, part on the prisoner's person, at Devonport, where he was apprehended in a state of drunkenness, and part at various pawnbrokers and other shops in Devonport; and, on the prisoner's being charged with the robbery, he said "they may transport me if they like." A previous conviction against the prisoner was proved. At the Assizes in March, 1851, he was convicted of stealing a quantity of clothing and money, also the property of JOHN SULIVAN, the present prosecutor. Our readers may remember that, in consequence of the intercession of the prosecutor on behalf of the prisoner, his son-in-law, and of the prisoner's promises of amendment, Mr. Baron Martin dealt with the case with remarkable leniency and sentenced the prisoner to five days' hard labour only. Only a few days after the termination of that sentence, namely on the 11th of April, he renewed his depredations on his kind father-in-law, who had brought him up and cared for him for many years. Transported for Ten years. ................ ELIZABETH BOSANKO, 30, charged with stealing on the 30th of April, a stuff gown, the property of JANE CARTHEW, of the parish of Illogan. In this case, the prosecutor's daughter placed the gown out to dry about nine o'clock in the morning, and at twelve o'clock she missed it, She had seen the prisoner come out at the back door with something on her arm. The prisoner lived about one mile and a half off. The daughter of prosecutrix went with MARTIN WILLIAMS, a constable, to the prisoner's house, and the constable, on going upstairs, found the gown which had been stolen. The prisoner then earnestly begged forgiveness, and offered first 5s. then 10s to the constable if he would say nothing about it. Verdict, Guilty. A previous conviction was proved against the prisoner. Seven years'transportation. .............. THOMAS PETERS, 21, JOHN WARREN, 35, and THOMAS GILES, 23, three "navies" who had been employed on the West Cornwall Railway near Hayle, were charged with stealing, on the 10th of May, at the parish of Ludgvan, five ducks, the property of JOHN TREWHELA, farmer. Mr. Darke conducted the prosecution, Mr. Shilson the defence. NICHOLAS SYMONS, a lad in the service of prosecutor, stated he put nine ducks belonging to his master in their house and locked the door. -MARGARET NANKERVIS, another servant of prosecutor, went to feed the ducks the next morning and found all nine missing, but about eight o'clock, four of them returned to be fed. -JAMES KING, constable of St. Erth, employed by the Messrs. Harvey, of Hayle Foundry, to watch their premises at night, stated that about two o'clock in the morning he saw two of the prisoners, Warren and Giles, looking over the wall of a lime-kiln. He went towards the kiln, and as he approached, the men went to lie down. He struck Warren to make him get up, and, on striking him a second time, he rose up. Witness then put his hand under a board where Warren had just been lying, and there was a duck, half-roasted, quite hot, and with the feathers burnt off. Witness then took all the men in custody. As they were going over the kiln, Warren threw something out of his pocket, under a plank. Witness took the men in custody into Messrs. Harvey's house; and, on his return in about ten minutes, he found that what Warren had thrown down was only a frock. But, on searching where the other prisoners had stood, he found four ducks - three of them had been just killed, and one had been roasted, and, like the other roasted one, could not be identified. He took charge of the three unroasted ducks, and they were identified before the magistrates by the witnesses Symons and Nankervis. The heads only were now produced in court, and these were identified by those two witnesses. The prisoners were ably defended mainly on the grounds that the proof of identity of the stolen property was unsatisfactory, and that there was no proof of actual possession by the prisoners. The jury, however, found all three prisoners Guilty. Four Months' hard labour. WEDNESDAY, JULY 2 JOHN PAUL, 26, [aka WILLIAM WORTH] was charged with stealing a piece of shirting and other articles, the property of SAMUEL BILKEY. Bilkey testified on the 2nd of May, he was at THOMAS BRIDGE's beerhouse in Penpont, in the parish of Altarnun, where prisoner asked him to drink, and he drank once from his pint. Prosecutor afterwards went out, having a bundle or two with him. Prisoner followed, and coming up, walked by his side until prosecutor was about to turn in across some fields. Prisoner said he should not go that way, and caught away prisoner's bundles, with which he went on the road to Five Lanes. Prosecutor followed him, asking for his things, bur prisoner would not let him have them. At Five Lanes, prosecutor wanted to turn to the right; prisoner would not give up the bundles, and was going on with them towards Launceston; prosecutor laid hold of his things, and prisoner knocked him down. Prosecutor rose and followed prisoner, who would not give up the bundles, and knocked him down a second time. He followed prisoner to near Tredoll, the residence of Mr. KITTO, and before coming there made an alarm by calling "murder." He there came up with and had a scuffle with prisoner; they both fell to the ground, and Mr. Kitto's servant, MARIA HAINES, took away the bundles. Prisoner went on the road, but was brought back by a man called HOWARTH, and was afterwards given in custody to SANDERCOCK and PEARN, two constables of Altarnun. Other witnesses having been examined, prisoner in his defence said he had no intention of stealing the articles. Verdict, Guilty. A prior conviction for felony in 1849 was proved against the prisoner, who then went by the name of WILLIAM WORTH, of St. Austell. Transported for Ten Years. .......... EDWARD YOUREN, 27, was charged with stealing a sack of flour, the property of FRANCES BLAMEY, of Gwennap. Mr. GENN, for the prosecution, stated the case, and called JAMES WYNN, in the employ of Mr. Frances Blamey, flour merchant, Gwennap. [On the 13th of June, witness was at Devoran; had a tram waggon, and loaded twenty bags of flour. Left Devoran about seven in the evening; had to go four miles and a half to Mr. Blamey's stores. Saw Youren at Devoran. Youren afterwards overtook witness on the tram-road; he was driving an empty waggon. Youren followed witness all the way to Mr. Blamey's stores.] On his way home, witness looked behind to his waggon, and saw the prisoner lying on the flour sacks. Prisoner said "what is the matter, old fellow?" Witness did not reply. Prisoner came down from the waggon and said everything was all right. Witness reached his master's stores about half-past eight; found a sack of flour gone from the waggon; had seen prisoner about ten minutes before, witness being in advance of prisoner's waggon. When prisoner's waggon came up witness saw the sack of flour in it; the tail of the waggon was lying over the sack. Prisoner asked witness to go in and have a pint of beer with him; witness said he could not go directly, and asked prisoner why he did not stop his waggon if he wanted a pint of beer. Prisoner said it was no matter to let the waggon go on; he should overtake it at Lanner. He then left the witness, who took a horse and was going to acquaint Mr. Blamey with what had occurred. He met a man in Mr. Blamey's employ, and taking him behind him on the horse, he went in pursuit of prisoner's waggon, which he overtook about a quarter of a mile on. Prisoner was not up with his waggon, but the sack of flour was still in it; prisoner afterwards came up, and witness detained the waggon. Cross-examined: Prisoner was a little tipsy but not very bad. Re-examined: When they left PAUL's beer-house, the sacks were all in Mr. Blamey's waggon. JOHN VEALE, constable at Gwennap, apprehended the prisoner; told him what he was charged with, but used no inducement to lead him to say anything. Prisoner said he was very sorry this old thing had happened, but never mind, it could be no other now; when I get out of this, he said, I will never do so any more. Mr. HOCKIN, on behalf of the prisoner, cross-examined the witnesses, and submitted to the jury that the risoner was very tipsy at the time, and that the case was one of a drunken frolic on the part of the prisoner, or of a "lark" by some other person. He also called JAMES YOUREN, a constable of Gwennap, one of the mining police, who gave prisoner a good character as an honest and industrious young man. On cross-examination, he said it was only since this matter had transpired that he had heard of anything against prisoner; he added that he had heard of larking on that tramroad. The Chairman having summed up, the jury, after some consideration, found the prisoner Guilty. Two months' hard labour. ................. JAMES WILLIAMS, 35, was Acquitted of a charge of stealing two rabbits, the property of JAMES CORNISH THOMAS, of Falmouth. ................. JULIA CRABB, 18, was charged with stealing several pieces of ribbon from the shop of WILLIAM HENRY HENWOOD, of Callington. Mr. J. B. COLLINS conducted the prosecution. Prisoner was occasionally employed in cleaning the shop. Witness missed some ribbon from a drawer in the shop about the 8th of May, and some time afterwards saw prisoner in the custody of a constable, who produced to witness some of the lost ribbons. In reply to the court, Mrs. Henwood admitted that she had sold some of the same description of ribbons to persons who had come to the shop. Other witnesses were examined, but the jury did not consider the evidence conclusive. Verdict, Not Guilty. .................. CHARLES COLES, 19, and THOMAS TRAYS, 25, were charged with stealing a loaf from the shop of THOMAS WILLIAMS, Kenwyn-street, Truro. It appeared that prisoner Coles went into the shop on the 14th of May and asked for a sixpenny loaf, which prosecutor's daughter gave him, and asked for payment. On this he laughed at her, and went out with the loaf, and gave half of it to Trays, who was standing outside. They were afterwards apprehended. Coles now said he did the act because they were out of work, and in a state of starvation. Verdict, both Guilty. Two Months' hard labour. .................... MARIA SOLOMON, 21, pleaded Guilty of having obtained from CATHERINE BEST, by false pretences, on the 7th of May, a quantity of flannel, a quarter of a pound of tea, and other articles, the property of MR. RICHARD BEST, of St. Columb. In passing sentence, the Chairman said he was afraid the prisoner's crime was to be imputed to the love of dress, the evil effects of which were often witnessed at these sessions; but it should be recollected that no one was better dressed than those who were dressed according to the situation in life in which they were placed. Four Months' hard labour. ................. JAMES ARUNDELL, 40, was charged with stealing, on the 14th of May, a pound weight of leather, the property of THOMAS JANE, of Pentewan, in the parish of St. Austell. The leather was sold by prisoner to HENRY BLIGHT, in RICHARD BARKER's public-house, at Holmbush. Verdict, Guilty. The prisoner also pleaded Guilty of having obtained, under false pretences, from RICHARD AARON PARSONS, of the parish of St. Austell, one kip, two pairs of lasts, a paper of white flax, and a yellow basil, with intent to defraud Richard Aaron Parsons. For the first offence, Four Months' hard labour; for the second, Two Months' hard labour. ................. MARY ANN HARRIS, 19, pleaded Guilty to two indictments, charging her with having obtained, by false pretenses, on the 4th and 13th of June, a quantity of wheaten flour, butter, lard, soap, currants, and other articles, the property of FRANCIS JAMES, of Illogan, shopkeeper. For the first offence, Three Month's hard labour; for the second, One Month's hard labour. The jury were then discharged, and the Court rose. No Bills - the Grand Jury ignored the bill against MARY ANN WERRY, charging her with felony. END of the SESSIONS Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

The Ships List website (http://www.theshipslist.com/  has now put new and updated files and databases on their own page(s) so it is easy to see whether anything of interest to you has recently been added. New for May 2010 is the passenger list for the Grand Trianon (Liverpool to Adelaide 1860) which incudes the following names from Cornwall: VARCOE; GREGORY; KILLICOAT; MAY;  MOYLE; CUNDY; JAMES. Regards, Joy

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER, 4 JULY 1851 transcribed by Julia Mosman BIRTHS At Truro, on the 21st ult., the wife of Mr. W. DENNIS, innkeeper, of a son. At Helston, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. JAMES RICHARDS, carpenter, of a daughter. At Gwinear, on the 20th ult., the wife of Mr. SAMUEL WILKIN, of a son; and the wife of Mr. EDWARD JENNINGS, of a daughter. At St. Agnes, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. THOMAS LANYON, of a daughter. At Newlyn east, on the 22nd ult., the wife of Mr. J. RICKARD, of a daughter. At Lostwithiel, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. JOHN STEPHENS, mason, of a son. At Trevecca Cottages, Liskeard, on Friday last, the wife of Capt. DUNSTAN, of a daughter. At Stratton, on the 23rd ult., the wife of Mr. TITUS WALKEY, draper, of a daughter, and on Monday last, the wife of Mr. LEWIS BANBURY, ironmonger, of a daughter. At Launceston, on the 24th ult., the wife of Mr. HENRY ESSERY, of a son. At Grendoo, Tavistock, on the 21st ult., the wife of Mr. Robert MAY, of a son. At St. James's, Exeter, on the 22nd ult., the wife of the Rev. PHILIP CARLYON, of a still-born son. MARRIAGES At Kenwyn, on the 3rd instant, Mr. w. REED, smith to Miss TRENHAILE. At Wesley Rock Chapel, Madron, on the 23rd ult., Mr. JAMES STEVENS to Miss MARGARET JANE PEAK, both of St. Ives. At St. Hilary, on Saturday last, Mr. W. J. HUNKIN to Miss JULIA MEREDITH, both of Marazion. At Madron, on Friday last, Mr. R. V. HOOPER to Miss MARY DANIEL; on Saturday, Mr. JOHN KESSELL to Miss MARY ANN GREEN; on Tuesday, Mr. WILLIAM COLLINS to Miss JANE HAWKINS, all of Penzance; and Mr. JOHN BORLASE, mate of the brig "Zephyr," to Miss JANE RICHARDS, of Gulval. At Gulval, on Sunday last, Mr. R. L. TREDREA to Miss ELIZA CURNOW, both of Chyandour. At the Wesleyan Chapel, Hayle, on Sunday last, Mr. WILLIAM HENRY BURROWS to Miss ELIZABETH ANN BRIGHT, both of Tuckingmill. At Illogan, on Friday last, Mr. JAMES ELLERY to Miss ELIZA JANE NETTELL, both of Illogan. At the Wesleyan Chapel, St. Austell, on Saturday last, Mr. THOMAS KINSMAN to Miss ELIZABETH SHELDON. At Boscastle, on Tuesday last, Mr. JOHN COODE, of St. Austell, to Miss JANE FUZZARD, of the former place. At St. George's, Stonehouse, on the 26th ult., by the Rev. W. H. NANTES, ADONIAH SCHUYLER, Esq., eldest son of the late ADONIAH SCHYUYLER, of Durnford Street, Stonehouse, to MARY CARLISLE MURRAY, only daughter of the late Lieut. WILLIAM ELLISSON, R.N., and grand-daughter of the late Rev. Dr. ELLISSON, Rector of Castlebar and Foxford, county Mayo, Ireland. At Tavistock, on the 23rd ult., Mr. HENRY SMITH, of the Bedford Office, to Miss SIMS, only daughter of Mr. SIMS, engineer and ironmonger, of Tavistock. At Holsworthy, Devon, on the 24th ult., JOHN THACKRAH, Esq., of Tower Street, London, to JANE, second daughter of JOHN COLLINS BROWNE, Esq., of the former place. At Highbury, on the 26th ult., Mr. JOHN PAYNE, of the firm of Rock, Brothers, and Payne, of London, to PRUDENCE HARTTREE, youngest daughter of the late Mr. HENRY ROCK, of Barnstaple, Devon. At Dorset, on the 13th ult., by the Rev. HENRY VYVYAN ROBINSON, the Rev. PHILIP VYVYAN ROBINSON, Rector of the parishes of Landewednack and Ruan Major, in this county, to AUGUSTA BAKER, younger daughter of the late HUGH NORRIS, Esq., surgeon, of Taunton. At Stepney, London, on the 22nd ult., Mr. ERNEST WHITE, of Bodmin, to Miss ELIZABETH POPE, of Lostwithiel. DEATHS At Truro, on Sunday last, after a severe and protracted illness, borne with great patience, Mr. JAMES BENNETT, tailor, aged 72 years. At Trethowel, in the parish of Kea, on Monday last, Mr. JOHN MAGOR, aged 76 years. At Sparnock, in the parish of Kea, on the 19th ult., Mr. WILLIAM DUNSTAN, aged 21 years. At Mullion, Mr. MICHAEL WILLIAMS, aged 78 years, for more than thirty of which he was clerk of that parish. At Penzance, on the 25th ult., the wife of Mr. JOHN BERRIMAN, aged 50 years; Mr. PETER DOBLE, sen., aged 77 years; and on Tuesday last, Mr. JOHN BERRYMAN, aged 40 years. At Newlyn west, on the 24th ult., the wife of Mr. STEPHEN DOWNING, aged 34 years. At St. Just in Penwith, on the 24th ult., Mr. JAMES MATTHEWS, aged 62 years. At Lelant, on the 24th ult., Mr. JAMES RICHARDS, aged 91 years. At Hayle, on Saturday last, Mrs. CATHERINE GILBERT, aged 72 years. At Angarrack, near Hayle, on the 26th ult., highly respected by all who knew him, Mr. JAMES POLKINGHORNE, assay master, aged 52 years. At Redruth, on Tuesday last, ELIZABETH, youngest daughter of Mr. HENRY HARRIS, surgeon, aged 2 years. At Mount Hawke, St. Agnes, on the 25th ult., Mr. JOHN SAMPSON, aged 65 years. At Fowey, on Friday last, Mrs. F. BROWN, widow of the late W. BROWN, Esq., of that place. At Liskeard, on Friday last, the widow of the late Mr. PHILIP JAMES, carpenter, aged 83 years. At Padstow, last week, Mrs. GRACE BURT, aged 27 years. At Port Isaac, on Saturday last, Mr. J.A. TREVAN, aged 85 years. At Trebell, in the parish of St. Kew, on Sunday last, Mr. THOMAS NOWELL, aged 51 years. At Grove Park, Stratton, on the 23rd ult., WILLIAM WALLIS BRAY, Esq., aged 73 years. At Stratton, on Monday last, Mr. ROBERT ROGERS, of the Ring of Bells Inn. In London, on the 24th ult., much respected and sincerely regretted, Mr. THOMAS WILLIAM MELHUISH, son of Capt. MELHUISH, of the "John and Edward" of Charlestown. Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER QUARTER SESSIONS 4 JULY 1851 - pt 4 COUNTY BUSINESS CORONERS' BILLS - The Chairman stated that Mr. HICHENS's bill for the past quarter was for twenty- two inquests, GBP 69.15s.2d. For the corresponding quarter last year, his bill was GBP 47.16s. The whole amount of the coroners' bills for the past quarter was GBP 314.2s.; for the corresponding quarter last year, GBP 263.14s.3d. TRIALS RESUMED JAMES BLACK, 26, was charged with stealing, on the 7th of June, at Liskeard, from the person of MARY ANN HAINES, one half-crown, two shillings, and two four-penny pieces. Mr. Hingston conducted the prosecution. -MARY ANN HAINES, about nine o'clock in the evening of the 7th of June, was at her father's meat-stall in Liskeard market. She saw a man's hand in her pocket, and immediately she caught the man by the coat. Her father then took hold of the man, who had taken a purse and some money in it from her pocket. She did not know at the time what money was in her purse. She next saw the purse in the possession of DAWE, the constable; it then contained a half-crown, two shillings, and four penny pieces. -SARAH BROAD, wife of JAMES BROAD, labourer, on the evening in question, was buying meat at the stall adjoining Haines's and saw prisoner put his hand in Miss Haines's pocket, and Miss Haines seize him by the coat. Dawe, the constable, was sent for and searched the prisoner at the stock in front of Mr. Haines's stall. While the search was being made, witness saw a purse drop from prisoner's left side. -RICHARD HARRIS, a lad, proved that he picked up the purse, not more than three feet from where the prisoner was being searched, and gave it to Dawe. After some confirmatory evidence from Mr. Haines, JOHN DAWE, constable, proved that on searching the prisoner, he found in his left hand waistcoat pocket, two half-crowns, and in his right waistcoat pocket, two shillings, two sixpences, and three fourpenny pieces; and in his trowsers some more pence. He showed Miss Haines the purse which had been given him by Harris, and she identified it. He afterwards found in the purse a half-crown, two shillings, and two fourpenny pieces in one end; and in the other end, some shells. Dawe produced the purse in court, and it was identified by Miss Haines, who also explained that the so-called shells were mother-of-pearl counters placed to keep the ring of the purse on. The Chairman, in summing up, directed the jury that they must find their verdict solely with reference to the money; for, unfortunately, the purse was not included in the indictment. The Jury found the prisoner Guilty of stealing money from the person of the prosecutrix. A second indictment against the prisoner for picking of pockets was not prosecuted. Before removal from the dock, the prisoner, having odd notions of the right of property, asked the Governor if the money he had stolen should be given up to him. Eight Months' hard labour. ..... JOHN MEAGER, charged with stealing four yards of ribbon, the property of JOHN MAY. Mr. Stokes for the prosecution; Mr. Shilson the defence. -CATHERINE MAY, wife of JOHN MAY, of the Red Lion Inn, at Bodmin, stated that on the 9th of May she bought from Mr. GROSE's shop four yards of white satin-edge ribbon. In the evening of that day, she placed the ribbon in a parcel on the table in the public kitchen. When she came down, about half-past eight the next morning, she saw the prisoner there; and a few minutes after, the prisoner left, she found that the ribbon was missing. When she came down stairs she found that there was no one in the room but the prisoner and his brother. They were not drunk when they left the house, but they took away about two gallons of beer. -JUDITH MANNEL, servant of Mrs. May's, came down into the kitchen about six o'clock in the morning, and saw a flat paper parcel on the table; she opened it and found it contained some white ribbon, with satin edge. About half-past seven, passing from the bar into the kitchen, she saw prisoner and his brother were sitting on a form at the head of the table. About ten minutes afterwards, they had some beer, and when witness was at breakfast, they left. When Mrs. May came down, she asked for the parcel, and witness found it was gone. Cross-examined: There was another man came in while they were there. They were not tipsy when they went away, but they took away a jar of beer. -WILLIAM BRAY, constable, of Bodmin, in the forenoon of the 9th of May, went to Cutlands Wood, about two miles from Bodmin, with another constable, JAMES LAMPIER, to search for prisoner. Found him there and asked him if he had been at the Red Lion that morning; he said he had. Told him there was some ribbon missing, and asked him if he had it. He said he did not know anything about ribbon. Witness told him to look in his pocket. He put his hand in his pocket, and took out several things. Witness then told him if he did not take out all the things, he (witness) should. He then took from his pocket a paper parcel of ribbon, which witness took charge of. Prisoner again said he did not know anything about any ribbon. He was rather intoxicated at the time; it was nearly twelve o'clock. The prisoner and his brother were woodmen. -JAMES LAMPIER, constable, confirmed the previous evidence, and added that after the apprehension of the prisoner, he went to Grose's shop, and obtained from JANE BENNY, an assistant in the shop, the piece of ribbon from which she had sold some to Mrs. May. (The witness produced the piece.) -JANE BENNY identified the piece produced by Lampier as the one from which she had sold to Mrs. May; and CATHERINE MAY identified the piece she had bought. For the defence, Mr. Shilson addressed the jury, suggesting that probably the package had been put in prisoner's pocket, he being in liquor, and it being proved that there was some other man in the kitchen besides prisoner and his brother; or, in his tipsy state, he might himself have taken it unwittingly. To a man in prisoner's position, that of a woodman, the ribbon could be of no value; and he had always borne a good character for honesty. - RICHARD VERCOE, woolstapler, of Bodmin, and JOHN COPPIN, farmer of the borough of Bodmin, gave the prisoner a good character for honesty. The jury returned a verdict of Guilty. One Month's hard labour. ....... RICHARD BROOKS, 23, CHARLES HENDRA, 32, and WILLIAM UREN, 20, were charged with having, on the 24th of May, assaulted JOHN WESTLAKE, a police constable at St. Austell, in the execution of his duty. Mr. Shilson conducted the prosecution; Mr. Stokes defended Brooks and Hendra. JOHN WESTLAKE deposed: I am one of the police constables of St. Austell. It is a regulation of the magistrates of St. Austell that the public-houses are to be closed by eleven o'clock at night. In the execution of my duty, I am in the habit of going round to see the public-houses clear at that hour. I did so on Saturday, the 24th of May. About twenty minutes before twelve o'clock, there were about a dozen persons drinking outside the King's Head Inn. The door was open and the gas was shining out at the door. When I came up, BROOKS said "Will you drink?" I said, "no, thank ye, I don't drink." He then said, "you would like to have a glass." I said, "If I did, I would go and have it." His next word were, "if we had you down at Charlestown, we would pitch you over the quay." With that, Uren and Hendra began to wrestle; one of them was nearly thrown down, and I went forth and said "stop this, it will lead to a row." I went over, with the back of my hands, to part them. As I did so, Hendra collared me and nearly choked me and tried to throw me down. I then told him to let me go or else he would suffer for it, as I was a policeman. He did not let me go. Uren said "Why had you not told me you were a policeman before?" I replied "you know what I am very well." Hendra still held me on, so much that I had to use my mace and cut him across the arm to make him let go his hold of my collar. Uren then said "come on, Charley; let's be off." I said, "I don't know that I shall let you go now." Hendra then said, "let me go." I said," not until I know your name." He did not give me his name. Uren then said, "D...e, give it to him Charley." Hendra then struck me a very violent blow on the face, and very nearly stunned me. Uren jumped in and collared me, and said "D...e, let us rescue him from the police." About that same time, some one brought out a light, but it was made out directly, and the party who brought it out was knocked down. There was at this time a great row. I was struck with great violence. There is some of the blood to be seen now on the wall where I fell; I was nearly swelled blind. After struggling some time, and when I got on my legs, I looked round and saw Mr. JACOBS and called him. He came to my assistance directly. I also called a mason named MERRIFIELD, who refused to come. The reply Merrifield made was "you had better let him go; you can't (or you shan't) take him in." It was Hendra whom I was trying to take to the lock-up. Mr. Jacobs came to my assistance. After about a minute, there was a regular row made, and we were all thrown off our legs - Jacobs, I, and Hendra; but I did not let go my hold of Hendra. I received several blows while I was on the ground, and as fast as I tried to rise, I was knocked or shoved down. As I was trying to get up, I received a kick in the face from BROOKS. After some time I got up. We then got a little way out in the middle of the street, and then Hendra caught my left hand in his mouth; I had the marks of his teeth for three weeks afterwards. I then said "if you don't let me go, I shall give you a crack in the head;" which I did, and he let me go. Uren then collared me again. Then PERROW, another constable, came, and we succeeded in taking Hendra to the lock-up. Uren followed the others, and after I had locked up Hendra, I went out and laid hold of him and locked him in also. I went out to look for Brooks, but found he had gone, and could not find him. He lives at Charlestown, but I could not apprehend him until the 8th of June, when I found him upstairs in his house, after his mother denied that he was in. I should think that when we got the men to the lock-up there were not less than one hundred people there. -WILLIAM JACOBS, a tradesman of St. Austell, living near the King's Head, stated: On Saturday night, the 24th of May, a little before twelve o'clock, I was in my house, and heard a noise in the street as of men quarreling. After a short time I went out and proceeded towards the King's Head. I kept by the church-yard wall; the noise being over by the public-house door opposite. I heard all that was passing, but it was very dark and overcast and the lamps were not lit, so that I could not see who the parties were. Shortly afterwards, from a light reflected from the street above, I caught sight of the face of Westlake, which was covered with blood. Westlake directly called me to his assistance; he had Hendra by the right side, and I took him by the left. Another man came forth and took me by the collar and said "you let him go." I said "no, I cannot." Directly after that, I received a blow in the back part of my head, and it knocked off my hat which I lost. There was a general cry raised "let's rescue the man." Several parties attempted to bring out lights, but they were immediately made out by some of the mob. Directly afterwards, they made a rush to rescue the man, and we were knocked off our legs - myself, Hendra, and the policeman. We were on the ground, struggling for some time. After some time I succeeded in getting up, and went farther out into the street. Merrifield came forward and touched me and said "you let that man go." I said, "No, I cannot." Westlake called Merrifield to his assistance, but he did not go. Shortly after that, PERROW, another constable, and two or three others came to our assistance, and we succeeded in getting Hendra to the lock-up, and afterwards Uren also was brought in. Westlake was much ill-used; I saw him the following day, and his face was bruised and disfigured very much. THOMAS KNIGHT, a farmer of the neighbourhood who was in St. Austell on the night in question, gave evidence corroborative of the preceding; and added that he saw Uren take our his handkerchief and heard him say, "he'd be skinned if Hendra should be put in the lock-up; he then made a rush towards the policeman and attempted to get Hendra away. As far as witness saw, the policeman's conduct was very proper; he was badly used, and bled a great deal. Mr. Stokes addressed the jury on behalf of his two clients - Brooks and Hendra - grounding his defence on the results of the examinations and cross-examinations of the prosecutor's witnesses. Admitting that an assault had been committed, he urged that it was only a common assault, and not an assault on a constable in the execution of his duty. It being dark, and the policeman not being in his day clothes, the defendants did not know that he was a policeman until after the fray commenced. He also contended that the policeman had been indiscreet in not allowing the man Hendra to be taken home by his companions; and somewhat violent in the use of his mace. He then called Mr. VERCOE, draper, of St. Austell, who spoke to the previously good characters of Brooks and Hendra. The jury found all three prisoners Guilty of assaulting a constable in the execution of his duty. The foreman of the jury added: The Jury desire to make another observation. With regard to the person Merrifield, who was called on by the policeman, and refused to assist, if there is any means of punishing him, the jury think it very desirable it should be done. -Four months' hard labour. ........... ELISHA HOLMAN, of Kenwyn, was indicted for assaulting, wounding, and ill-treating GRAVE LAVIN on the 28th of May, she being at the time with child and in consequence of which the child was born dead. In this case the prisoner had been bound over to answer a charge of felony; but the bill found by the Grand Jury was for misdemeanor. Under these circumstances, it was considered by the Court that the prisoner was entitled to traverse. Mr. STOKES, for the prisoner, applied to do so. The prisoner, consequently pleaded "Not Guilty," and traversed to the next Sessions; himself and his father being bound in recognizances of GBP 50 each. Mr. J. B. COLLINS appeared for the prosecution. .............. End of Part 4 Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

Hi Myra Wasn't me!!! Cheers Pat Banks -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Myra Cordrey Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 1:22 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] FAO Patricia - Lanivet researcher If a Patricia in Australia is expecting a reply from the OPC for Lanivet, please would she contact me off-list? The return email address is being bounced as unknown. Regards Myra OPC Co-ordinator, Cornwall ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Let me amend my own scenario... > The CARBIS story involves another family with a complicated set of > relationships that can best be explained in the context of the following > household that appeared in the 1881 Census at Boat Mans Row, St. Just in > Penwith - > > James CARBIS, head, widower, 52, stone breaker (road labourer), born St. > Buryan > Jane KESSEL, housekeeper, widow, 46, born Gulval > Henry KESSEL, son, unmarried, 20, tin & copper miner, born Penzance > William CARBIS, son, 12, scholar, born St. Just > John CARBIS, son 10, scholar, born St. Just > > James Tregear CARBIS (bap. 29 Jan 1826 St. Buryan, s/o Richard CARBIS & > Elizabeth TREGEAR) married Margaret WALLIS (bap. 30 Jun 1822 St. Just, d/o > Richard WALLIS & Catherine ROWE) at St. Buryan on 24 Nov 1849. They had > at > least 7 children, none of whom were part of the 1881 household shown > above. > Margaret died at Trewellard, St. Just and was buried at Pendeen on 26 Apr > 1865. > > Jane SYMONS (b.ca.1836 Gulval, d/o John Hockin SYMONS & Jane TREMBATH) > married George Henry KESSELL, with the event registered at Penzance during > 3Q1856. George & Jane had at least four children: George Henry (1858), > Mary Jane (ca.1867), William (ca.1868), and John S. (1870), and it was > likely the first of those children who was with his mother in the CARBIS > household at the 1881 Census. On closer inspection, it is likely that Mary Jane (b.ca.1867, d.1875), William (b.ca.1868), and John S. (b.1870) were children of Jane's relationship with James CARBIS. The three were shown with the KESSELL surname in 1871. Mary Jane subsequently died, and William and John Symons were shown with the CARBIS surname in 1881. Just one more twist in a complex plot! > George Henry KESSELL, Jane's husband, was > apparently a "traveling man", since he was not with his wife and children > at > the 1861 or 1871 Census. She counted herself as married (not widowed) in > 1871, but George Henry was out of the picture at some point during the > following decade. > > Widow Jane SYMONS was clearly more than a housekeeper for widower James > CARBIS. They had established a close relationship resulting in the birth > of > two sons, William CARBIS (who married Mary Elizabeth NANKERVIS) and John > Symons CARBIS (the boarder in the John MORRIS 1891 household at Carnyorth > Cottage). Bill Curnow Port Charlotte, FL, USA

Hi Anne The Carnyorth family is the family of Richard NANKERVIS and Mary Jane GRENFELL nee OLIVER who married on 14 May 1868 at Pendeen. The 1891 census shows Mary Jane living at Carnyorth with husband, John MORRIS; her two sons, Richard NANKERVIS and George Henry NANKERVIS; and her father, George OLIVER. There is no Minnie, although there is a Nannie TREZISE, aged 11, born St Just, shown as the grand-daughter of John MORRIS. There is a marriage for a Mary Jane OLIVER and John Wallace MORRIS in 1889. There is also a death for a Richard NANKERVIS of Carnyorth in 1886. Regards Bob Bolitho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Brooks" <anbrooks@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 5:27 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just Wondering if anyone has connections to the family of Richard NANKERVIS living in St Just in 1881 census. I am trying to find the origins of a Minnie NANKERVIS, born around 1880, who married Frank HALL (born 1870 in St. Just). They married around 1905 and lived in Michigan. Minnie born only "in England" in censuses after she married. Richard NANKERVIS Head M Male 44 Trewellard, Cornwall, England Tin Miner Mary Jane NANKERVIS Wife M Female 38 Sancreed, Cornwall, England Richard NANKERVIS Son U Female 10 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Scholar George Hy. NANKERVIS Son U Male 7 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Scholar Mennie NANKERVIS Daur U Female 2 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Source Information: Dwelling Carnyorth Town There is another Minnie NANKERVIS in 1881, living in Cumberland County, the dau. of Richard, born in St. Just. Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John J. D. NANKERVIS Head M Male 30 St Just, Cornwall, England Iron Miner Ellen J. NANKERVIS Wife M Female 21 Llansileian, Anglesey, Wales Sarah A. NANKERVIS Daur Female 1 Millom, Cumberland, England Minnie NANKERVIS Daur Female 1 m Millom, Cumberland, England Source Information: Dwelling 15 Hope St Census Place Millom, Cumberland, England Hoping someone might help me eliminate one of these. Anne -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1227 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne & Bob, The 1891 household of John MORRIS and family is quite complicated. These folks really spun a complicated web. Let me propose a theory as to who they all were in hope that somebody will be able to fill in the gaps and correct any problems. This is the Carnyorth Cottage household as it appears in the 1891 Census: John MORRIS, head, married, 30, tin & copper miner, born Gulval Mary J. MORRIS, wife, married, 40, born Sancreed Richard NANKERVIS, stepson, single, 19, tin & copper miner, born St. Just George H. NANKERVIS, stepson, single, 17, tin & copper miner, born St. Just Nannie TREZISE, granddaughter, single, 11, scholar, born St. Just William CARBIS, grandson, single, 8, scholar, born St. Just George OLIVER, father-in-law, widower, 71, retired tin miner, born St. Just John CARBIS, boarder, single, 19, blacksmith, born St. Just I believe that all of these people, including the boarder, are connected. Let's look at them one at a time beginning with the one with the most intricate life story: (1) Mary J. MORRIS. I believe she was Mary Jane OLIVER, bap. 24 Jul 1842 Sancreed, d/o George Henry OLIVER & Jane MATTHEWS. Mary Jane married James GRENFELL (bap. 17 Sep 1837 St. Just, s/o William GRENFELL & Jane WALLS) at Pendeen on 17 Nov 1860. They had a daughter Amelia J. GRENFELL who was born in 1861. James GRENFELL of Trewellard died at age 30 and was buried at Pendeen on 23 Sep 1866. Next... Mary Jane GRENFELL (nee OLIVER) married Richard NANKERVIS (bap. 17 Jun 1838 St. Just, s/o William NANKERVIS & Jane Lanyon) at Pendeen on 14 May 1868. They had at least four children: Mary Elizabeth (1868), Richard (1870), George Henry (1880), and Annie (1885). Richard NANKERVIS of Carnyorth died and was buried at Pendeen on 01 Dec 1886; his age was given as 45, but 48 would be closer to the mark. Next... Mary Jane married John MORRIS. The on line civil BMDs index shows that the marriage of John Wallace MORRIS to Mary Jane OLIVER (sic) was registered at Penzance during 4Q1889. A check of the actual marriage registration would be needed to confirm all the facts, but other evidence suggests that this is the couple who appeared at Carnyorth Cottage at the 1891 Census. It is curious that Mary Jane used her birth surname when the marriage was registered. (2) John MORRIS. His name was given as John Wallace MORRIS in the marriage registration mentioned above. I believe that he was the son of John Wallis MORRIS (or MORRISH) & Alice EDWARDS and that he was baptized at Gulval on 05 Jun 1861. His name was given simply as John MORRIS at his baptism, but it is no surprise that he would have emulated his father by using WALLIS or WALLACE as a middle name. (3) Stepson Richard NANKERVIS. He was the son of Mary Jane by her second marriage. (4) Stepson George H. NANKERVIS. He was the son of Mary Jane by her second marriage. (5) Granddaughter Nannie TREZISE. She is the one member of the cast whose identity is still murky. It is clear that household head John MORRIS was too young to be a grandfather, so the relationship is more likely to his wife by one of her earlier marriages. It is plausible that she was the child, either legitimate or not, of Amelia J. GRENFELL, Mary Jane's daughter by her first marriage. Any help in pinning down her identity would be very welcome indeed. (6) Grandson William CARBIS. It is quite probable that he was Mary Jane's grandson, since her daughter Mary Elizabeth NANKERVIS (by the second marriage) married William James CARBIS (bap. 30 Sep 1869 Pendeen, s/o James Tregear CARBIS & Jane SYMONS) at Pendeen on 16 Oct 1886. If William's 1891 age (8) was correctly stated and if his mother was indeed Mary Elizabeth, then he was certainly born before the 1886 marriage. (7) Father-in-law George OLIVER. Nothing more need be said about George, who was indeed the father of Mary Jane. (8) Boarder John CARBIS. I believe that John CARBIS was the brother of William James CARBIS and, therefore, the uncle of grandson William CARBIS. The CARBIS story involves another family with a complicated set of relationships that can best be explained in the context of the following household that appeared in the 1881 Census at Boat Mans Row, St. Just in Penwith - James CARBIS, head, widower, 52, stone breaker (road labourer), born St. Buryan Jane KESSEL, housekeeper, widow, 46, born Gulval Henry KESSEL, son, unmarried, 20, tin & copper miner, born Penzance William CARBIS, son, 12, scholar, born St. Just John CARBIS, son 10, scholar, born St. Just James Tregear CARBIS (bap. 29 Jan 1826 St. Buryan, s/o Richard CARBIS & Elizabeth TREGEAR) married Margaret WALLIS (bap. 30 Jun 1822 St. Just, d/o Richard WALLIS & Catherine ROWE) at St. Buryan on 24 Nov 1849. They had at least 7 children, none of whom were part of the 1881 household shown above. Margaret died at Trewellard, St. Just and was buried at Pendeen on 26 Apr 1865. Jane SYMONS (b.ca.1836 Gulval, d/o John Hockin SYMONS & Jane TREMBATH) married George Henry KESSELL, with the event registered at Penzance during 3Q1856. George & Jane had at least four children: George Henry (1858), Mary Jane (ca.1867), William (ca.1868), and John S. (1870), and it was likely the first of those children who was with his mother in the CARBIS household at the 1881 Census. George Henry KESSELL, Jane's husband, was apparently a "traveling man", since he was not with his wife and children at the 1861 or 1871 Census. She counted herself as married (not widowed) in 1871, but George Henry was out of the picture at some point during the following decade. Widow Jane SYMONS was clearly more than a housekeeper for widower James CARBIS. They had established a close relationship resulting in the birth of two sons, William CARBIS (who married Mary Elizabeth NANKERVIS) and John Symons CARBIS (the boarder in the John MORRIS 1891 household at Carnyorth Cottage). My apologies for the length of this note! It is a story that can't be told briefly. Bill Curnow Port Charlotte, FL, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Bolitho" <bbolitho@tpg.com.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just > Hi Anne > > The Carnyorth family is the family of Richard NANKERVIS and Mary Jane > GRENFELL nee OLIVER who married on 14 May 1868 at Pendeen. > > The 1891 census shows Mary Jane living at Carnyorth with husband, John > MORRIS; her two sons, Richard NANKERVIS and George Henry NANKERVIS; > and her father, George OLIVER. There is no Minnie, although there is a > Nannie TREZISE, aged 11, born St Just, shown as the grand-daughter of > John MORRIS. > > There is a marriage for a Mary Jane OLIVER and John Wallace MORRIS in > 1889. There is also a death for a Richard NANKERVIS of Carnyorth in > 1886. > > Regards > Bob Bolitho > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Brooks" <anbrooks@nbnet.nb.ca> > To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 5:27 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just > > > Wondering if anyone has connections to the family of Richard NANKERVIS > living in St Just in 1881 census. > > I am trying to find the origins of a Minnie NANKERVIS, born around > 1880, who > married Frank HALL (born 1870 in St. Just). They married around 1905 > and > lived in Michigan. Minnie born only "in England" in censuses after she > married. > > Richard NANKERVIS Head M Male 44 Trewellard, Cornwall, England Tin > Miner > > Mary Jane NANKERVIS Wife M Female 38 Sancreed, Cornwall, England > > Richard NANKERVIS Son U Female 10 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Scholar > > George Hy. NANKERVIS Son U Male 7 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Scholar > > Mennie NANKERVIS Daur U Female 2 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England > > Source Information: > > Dwelling Carnyorth Town > > > > There is another Minnie NANKERVIS in 1881, living in Cumberland > County, the > dau. of Richard, born in St. Just. > > Household: > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation > Disability > > John J. D. NANKERVIS Head M Male 30 St Just, Cornwall, England Iron > Miner > > Ellen J. NANKERVIS Wife M Female 21 Llansileian, Anglesey, Wales > > Sarah A. NANKERVIS Daur Female 1 Millom, Cumberland, England > > Minnie NANKERVIS Daur Female 1 m Millom, Cumberland, England > > Source Information: > > Dwelling 15 Hope St > > Census Place Millom, Cumberland, England > > Hoping someone might help me eliminate one of these. > > Anne > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 1227 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Isn't a spence a closet? On May 26, 2010, at 9:50 PM, <jwmos99@msn.com> <jwmos99@msn.com> wrote: > > Does anyone know what a "Spence under the stairs" might have been? > > > West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser > > QUARTER SESSIONS, 4 JULY 1851 - part 3 > > WEDNESDAY, JULY 2 > > JOHN GIDLEY, 34, was charged with stealing on the 1st of May, at > Truro, a pick, the property of SAMUEL DATE. Mr. J. B. COLLINS > conducted the prosecution; Mr. STOKES the defence. > > The prosecutor, who works on the roads as a labourer for the Truro > Union, stated that on the 15th of March, he delivered his pick to > DREW, a smith at Truro, for the purpose of being altered, and left > it in his possession. About the 14th of May, Drew informed him > that he had lost his pick about the beginning of that month. The > prosecutor, on the 24th of May, obtained a warrant from the Mayor of > Truro, and went to Gidley's house with a constable, WARD, who found > the pick in a Spence, under the stairs. Witness knew the > pick to be his by a mark on the hilt, and an eye on the handle. > > -ROBERT DREW, smith, stated that he altered the pick as desired by > prosecutor; and had seen the prisoner, who had tools of his own > there, handling this pick. Prisoner had a similar two-point pick > there, but with quite a different eye, - one being oval, the other a > diamond. Witness left the shop about a quarter of an hour, and > shortly after his return, missed the prosecutor's pick. > > -JAMES LONG, smith, in the employ of Mr. JEFFERY, about twelve > months since, made five or six similar picks for Date; the pick now > produced was one of those he so made; he knew it by the eye. > > MR. STOKES, opening the defence, said the question for consideration > was as to the identity of the property. It was admitted that the > prisoner did take the pick from Drew's shop; but it would be proved > that the pick was his own property, and Drew himself had admitted > that prisoner had at his shop, at the time referred to, a pick > similar to that of the prosecutor's. If therefore, the proof should > fail as to the pick being the prisoner's property, still the > circumstances would not warrant a verdict that the prisoner took the > pick with felonious intent. > > -ROBERT DREW, recalled by the Chairman, stated that the prisoner's > pick was taken away from his shop about the same time as > prosecutor's; it was not left there after prosecutor's pick was > taken away, and he (Drew) allowed prisoner 1.6d. for it, in account. > > -JOHN BLACKMORE, a labourer on the Kenwyn parish roads, had during > the last three years worked with prisoner, and occasionally used > prisoner's tools. About three years ago, the prisoner's father-in- > law, named RICHARD SOBEY, the foreman of the roads, brought the > pick in question to him (Blackmore), and stated that it was > Gidley's. (Witness looked at the pick and hilt and from several > marks which he pointed out to the jury, positively swore that the > pick belonged to the prisoner.) Had often carried the pick to > smiths' shops to be repaired. The last time he carried the pick for > repairs was about March twelve months. The last time he worked with > that pick was about ten or twelve months since, but had seen it > several times since. Witness and prisoner were in the habit of using > each other's > tools. > > -RICHARD BEHENNA, a foreman at REED's smith's shop, Truro, had been > there three years. Prisoner and his partner repeatedly brought tools > there to be repaired. In March, 1850, the prisoner brought him this > pick, and he (witness) laid it at both ends, and then noticed in the > interior of the eye a notch in the iron - a flaw in the working. The > witness removed the pick from the handle, and pointed out the mark > to the jury. > > The Chairman in summing up, spoke of the unimpeachable character of > the witnesses on both sides, observing that the conflict of > testimony showed that there was some singular mistake as to the > property. The only circumstance which appeared of a suspicious > nature, as against the prisoner, was the fact of his having been > allowed 1s.6d. for his own pick; if his own pick had been left at > the shop, the notion of "mistake" would have been more obvious. > Still, with such testimony as had been adduced as to the property, > he thought they could not convict of felonious intent. > > The jury, however, after rather long consultation, returned a > verdict of Guilty. One Fortnight to hard labour. > ......... > > ELIZABETH TREWOLA, 45, was charged with stealing on the 14th of > June, a pound weight of butter, the property of FRANCIS GUNDRY, of > the Queen's Head, Truro. > > -ELIZABETH GUNDRY, daughter of prosecutor, bought of MRS. WILLIAMS > at the market, a pound and two half-pounds of butter , and > afterwards saw it in the dairy. On the following day, WOOLCOCK, a > policeman, went to prisoner's house and there found in a glass > cupboard, a pound of butter, which she said she had purchased about > half-past eight at the market. He took charge of the butter, and > apprehended the prisoner; and, on the following Wednesday, it was > produced before the magistrates where it was identified by > E. Gundry and by Mrs. Williams. Mrs. Williams testified she sold 5 > lbs. of butter, all to private individuals. She had a unique butter- > print. On being apprehended, prisoner said she had never been in the > Queen's Head. > > -FRANCIS MARY STEVENS, a servant of Mr. Gundry, who had known > prisoner for four years, saw her in the passage-way, between the tap > and the bar-door, at the Queen's Head. She asked for a glass of > porter. Witness went to the bar for the porter, leaving the prisoner > alone in the passage, the dairy door being open. At that time, > prisoner had nothing with her; she remained about a quarter of an > hour. When witness came out with the porter, prisoner had something > under her left arm. > > -WILLIAM NICHOLLS, constable of Redruth, on Sunday morning the 15th > of June, saw the prisoner at Truro prison. She said "This is a bad > job; I did it through drink; can't it be settled?" Verdict, Guilty. > Two Months' hard labour. > > ......... > > RICHARD TREMBRATH, 21, was charged with stealing, on the 10th of > June, at the parish of St. Buryan, a basket containing a shilling, > two sixpences, fivepence-halfpenny, and a pair of gloves, the > property of ELIZABETH BOASE. The prosecutrix stated that on the 11th > of June, she was at OATES's public house with a MRS. WARREN. While > they were there, prisoner came in, and in his presence prosecutrix > counted her money into her basket, and also put her gloves in. The > prisoner immediately afterwards snatched the basket out of her hand > and ran away. She ran after him but could not catch him. > > > Afterwards she went to a Mrs. WALLIS's, where the basket was shown > her. She then informed a constable, and prisoner was brought to Mrs. > Wallis's, where, in the presence of witness, he took three half > pence out of his pocket and said to Mrs. Wallis "there's the money I > had from you for the basket." > > MRS. WALLIS stated that she lived at Buryan about a quarter of a > mile from Oates's beer-shop. On the 11th of June, prisoner came to > her house and offered the basket for sale, and she gave him three > halfpence for it. Afterwards he was brought by the constable, and > paid her back the three halfpence; and she gave up the basket to the > prosecutrix. At the time of the transaction, the prisoner was not > "true drunk" but had been drinking. Verdict, Guilty. Four Months' > hard labour. > > ........... > > CATHERINE MORRIS, 31, was charged with having on the 19th of April, > at Redruth, stolen from the person of JOHN OLIVER, one sovereign, > two half-crowns, and two shillings, the property of the said John > Oliver. The prosecutor, a miner living at Gwennap, on the 19th of > April, was at the King's Arms, in Redruth, having the money named in > a bag. Prisoner was in the room when he paid for a pint of beer. > He was standing with his back towards her, when she put her hand > into his right hand pocket and ran off. He then missed his bag and > money, and ran after the prisoner into the street, and apprehended > her, and gave her in charge. Knew the bag and money were in his > pocket about ten minutes before. > > -WILLIAM BARNETT, a lad employed at the yard of the King's Arms on > the day in question, saw the prisoner pass down through the court > with a bag in one hand, and a finger and thumb of the other hand in > the bag. Afterwards saw constable Tredinnick pick up the bag about > thirty or forty yards from the place; he believed that bag to be the > same he had seen in prisoner's hands. > > -JOHN TREDINNICK, constable, apprehended prisoner and was present > when she was searched; there was found on her two half-crowns and > three shillings in a housewife, but no bag. In consequence of > information given by the last witness, witness went down the back- > yard of the inn, and at about ten or fifteen paces from where > Barnett told him the prisoner had passed, he found a bag on the > ground. This witness produced the bag, which was identified by the > prosecutor and his wife. > > CHARLES TREGONING, constable of Redruth, stated that, after he had > the prisoner in custody, she at first denied all knowledge of the > robbery; but the next day she said if there was any sovereign among > the silver, she must have lost it in the crowd. Verdict, Guilty of > stealing from the person. Four Months' hard labour. > > ............ > > JOHN DAVIS, 19, charged with stealing, on the 28th of April, from > the boiler-house at Drakewalls mine, in the parish of Calstock, a > pair of shoes and a pair of stockings, the property of HENRY > WILLIAMS, miner. Guilty. Four Months' hard labour. > > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Anne Further to my email I have now discovered that Minnie Nankervis in Cumberland emigrated to Australia and died at Bundaberg. She is definitely not your Minnie. There are a few Personal Trees on Ancestry showing your Minnie Nankervis. On the Colorado State Archives, Gilpin County Marriages your Minnie married Frank Hall on 7 Aug 1901. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Brooks" <anbrooks@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: 27 May 2010 20:27 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 278 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi Anne Minnie is usually an abbreviation of Mary so also look under Birth records on that name. My gut feeling is that Minnie in St Just is your one but the only way you can be sure is to get the Birth Certificate. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Brooks" <anbrooks@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: 27 May 2010 20:27 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 278 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Thanks for the info about the spence - now I know where it was that my gt gt grandfather (Joseph Ward, the policeman) found the pick! Regards, Bill -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna Leadbetter Sent: 27 May 2010 07:53 To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 4 July 1851, Qtr Sessions, part 3 A spence is a cupboard or storage space under the stairs. The word was used regularly in my home when I grew up in Cornwall. Lorna

Wondering if anyone has connections to the family of Richard NANKERVIS living in St Just in 1881 census. I am trying to find the origins of a Minnie NANKERVIS, born around 1880, who married Frank HALL (born 1870 in St. Just). They married around 1905 and lived in Michigan. Minnie born only "in England" in censuses after she married. Richard NANKERVIS Head M Male 44 Trewellard, Cornwall, England Tin Miner Mary Jane NANKERVIS Wife M Female 38 Sancreed, Cornwall, England Richard NANKERVIS Son U Female 10 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Scholar George Hy. NANKERVIS Son U Male 7 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Scholar Mennie NANKERVIS Daur U Female 2 Carnyorth, Cornwall, England Source Information: Dwelling Carnyorth Town There is another Minnie NANKERVIS in 1881, living in Cumberland County, the dau. of Richard, born in St. Just. Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John J. D. NANKERVIS Head M Male 30 St Just, Cornwall, England Iron Miner Ellen J. NANKERVIS Wife M Female 21 Llansileian, Anglesey, Wales Sarah A. NANKERVIS Daur Female 1 Millom, Cumberland, England Minnie NANKERVIS Daur Female 1 m Millom, Cumberland, England Source Information: Dwelling 15 Hope St Census Place Millom, Cumberland, England Hoping someone might help me eliminate one of these. Anne -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1227 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi Julia... >From "Concise English Dictionary" Arthur L. Hayward and John J. Sparkes... 1962 Spence... a Buttery, a Larder Buttery... A room in which liquor and provisions are kept... Larder... A room in which meat and other provisions are kept. Pantry under the stairs... Maybe... Cupboard of sorts... Hilton Doidge New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: <jwmos99@msn.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com>; <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:50 PM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 4 July 1851, Qtr Sessions, part 3 > > Does anyone know what a "Spence under the stairs" might have been? > > > West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser > > QUARTER SESSIONS, 4 JULY 1851 - part 3 > > WEDNESDAY, JULY 2 > > JOHN GIDLEY, 34, was charged with stealing on the 1st of May, at Truro, a > pick, the property of SAMUEL DATE. Mr. J. B. COLLINS conducted the > prosecution; Mr. STOKES the defence. > > The prosecutor, who works on the roads as a labourer for the Truro Union, > stated that on the 15th of March, he delivered his pick to DREW, a smith > at Truro, for the purpose of being altered, and left it in his possession. > About the 14th of May, Drew informed him that he had lost his pick about > the beginning of that month. The prosecutor, on the 24th of May, obtained > a warrant from the Mayor of Truro, and went to Gidley's house with a > constable, WARD, who found the pick in a Spence, under the stairs.

John Griffiths wrote: > Possibly Space under the stairs ????????????? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <jwmos99@msn.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:50 AM > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com>; <cornish@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 4 July 1851, Qtr Sessions, part 3 > >> Does anyone know what a "Spence under the stairs" might have been? A cupboard. See this: Spench. A man was whipped at Douglas in 1699 for breaking open a ' spench-door ' (Records). Probably the archaic English ' spence,' a larder or buttery, the place from which food was dispensed. Cregeen has Spinch, a scullion. In Cornish cottages to-day a cupboard under the staircase is called a spence. from http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/md1933/s.htm Clare

Possibly Space under the stairs ????????????? -------------------------------------------------- From: <jwmos99@msn.com> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:50 AM To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com>; <cornish@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 4 July 1851, Qtr Sessions, part 3 > > Does anyone know what a "Spence under the stairs" might have been? > > > West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser > > QUARTER SESSIONS, 4 JULY 1851 - part 3 > > WEDNESDAY, JULY 2 > > JOHN GIDLEY, 34, was charged with stealing on the 1st of May, at Truro, a > pick, the property of SAMUEL DATE. Mr. J. B. COLLINS conducted the > prosecution; Mr. STOKES the defence. > > The prosecutor, who works on the roads as a labourer for the Truro Union, > stated that on the 15th of March, he delivered his pick to DREW, a smith > at Truro, for the purpose of being altered, and left it in his possession. > About the 14th of May, Drew informed him that he had lost his pick about > the beginning of that month. The prosecutor, on the 24th of May, obtained > a warrant from the Mayor of Truro, and went to Gidley's house with a > constable, WARD, who found the pick in a Spence, under the stairs. Witness > knew the > pick to be his by a mark on the hilt, and an eye on the handle. > > -ROBERT DREW, smith, stated that he altered the pick as desired by > prosecutor; and had seen the prisoner, who had tools of his own there, > handling this pick. Prisoner had a similar two-point pick there, but with > quite a different eye, - one being oval, the other a diamond. Witness left > the shop about a quarter of an hour, and shortly after his return, missed > the prosecutor's pick. > > -JAMES LONG, smith, in the employ of Mr. JEFFERY, about twelve months > since, made five or six similar picks for Date; the pick now produced was > one of those he so made; he knew it by the eye. > > MR. STOKES, opening the defence, said the question for consideration was > as to the identity of the property. It was admitted that the prisoner did > take the pick from Drew's shop; but it would be proved that the pick was > his own property, and Drew himself had admitted that prisoner had at his > shop, at the time referred to, a pick similar to that of the prosecutor's. > If therefore, the proof should fail as to the pick being the prisoner's > property, still the circumstances would not warrant a verdict that the > prisoner took the pick with felonious intent. > > -ROBERT DREW, recalled by the Chairman, stated that the prisoner's pick > was taken away from his shop about the same time as prosecutor's; it was > not left there after prosecutor's pick was taken away, and he (Drew) > allowed prisoner 1.6d. for it, in account. > > -JOHN BLACKMORE, a labourer on the Kenwyn parish roads, had during the > last three years worked with prisoner, and occasionally used prisoner's > tools. About three years ago, the prisoner's father-in-law, named RICHARD > SOBEY, the foreman of the roads, brought the pick in question to him > (Blackmore), and stated that it was Gidley's. (Witness looked at the pick > and hilt and from several marks which he pointed out to the jury, > positively swore that the pick belonged to the prisoner.) Had often > carried the pick to smiths' shops to be repaired. The last time he carried > the pick for repairs was about March twelve months. The last time he > worked with that pick was about ten or twelve months since, but had seen > it several times since. Witness and prisoner were in the habit of using > each other's > tools. > > -RICHARD BEHENNA, a foreman at REED's smith's shop, Truro, had been there > three years. Prisoner and his partner repeatedly brought tools there to be > repaired. In March, 1850, the prisoner brought him this pick, and he > (witness) laid it at both ends, and then noticed in the interior of the > eye a notch in the iron - a flaw in the working. The witness removed the > pick from the handle, and pointed out the mark to the jury. > > The Chairman in summing up, spoke of the unimpeachable character of the > witnesses on both sides, observing that the conflict of testimony showed > that there was some singular mistake as to the property. The only > circumstance which appeared of a suspicious nature, as against the > prisoner, was the fact of his having been allowed 1s.6d. for his own pick; > if his own pick had been left at the shop, the notion of "mistake" would > have been more obvious. Still, with such testimony as had been adduced as > to the property, he thought they could not convict of felonious intent. > > The jury, however, after rather long consultation, returned a verdict of > Guilty. One Fortnight to hard labour. > ......... > > ELIZABETH TREWOLA, 45, was charged with stealing on the 14th of June, a > pound weight of butter, the property of FRANCIS GUNDRY, of the Queen's > Head, Truro. > > -ELIZABETH GUNDRY, daughter of prosecutor, bought of MRS. WILLIAMS at the > market, a pound and two half-pounds of butter , and afterwards saw it in > the dairy. On the following day, WOOLCOCK, a policeman, went to prisoner's > house and there found in a glass cupboard, a pound of butter, which she > said she had purchased about half-past eight at the market. He took charge > of the butter, and apprehended the prisoner; and, on the following > Wednesday, it was produced before the magistrates where it was identified > by > E. Gundry and by Mrs. Williams. Mrs. Williams testified she sold 5 lbs. of > butter, all to private individuals. She had a unique butter-print. On > being apprehended, prisoner said she had never been in the Queen's Head. > > -FRANCIS MARY STEVENS, a servant of Mr. Gundry, who had known prisoner for > four years, saw her in the passage-way, between the tap and the bar-door, > at the Queen's Head. She asked for a glass of porter. Witness went to the > bar for the porter, leaving the prisoner alone in the passage, the dairy > door being open. At that time, prisoner had nothing with her; she remained > about a quarter of an hour. When witness came out with the porter, > prisoner had something under her left arm. > > -WILLIAM NICHOLLS, constable of Redruth, on Sunday morning the 15th of > June, saw the prisoner at Truro prison. She said "This is a bad job; I did > it through drink; can't it be settled?" Verdict, Guilty. Two Months' hard > labour. > > ......... > > RICHARD TREMBRATH, 21, was charged with stealing, on the 10th of June, at > the parish of St. Buryan, a basket containing a shilling, two sixpences, > fivepence-halfpenny, and a pair of gloves, the property of ELIZABETH > BOASE. The prosecutrix stated that on the 11th of June, she was at OATES's > public house with a MRS. WARREN. While they were there, prisoner came in, > and in his presence prosecutrix counted her money into her basket, and > also put her gloves in. The prisoner immediately afterwards snatched the > basket out of her hand and ran away. She ran after him but could not catch > him. > > > Afterwards she went to a Mrs. WALLIS's, where the basket was shown her. > She then informed a constable, and prisoner was brought to Mrs. Wallis's, > where, in the presence of witness, he took three half pence out of his > pocket and said to Mrs. Wallis "there's the money I had from you for the > basket." > > MRS. WALLIS stated that she lived at Buryan about a quarter of a mile from > Oates's beer-shop. On the 11th of June, prisoner came to her house and > offered the basket for sale, and she gave him three halfpence for it. > Afterwards he was brought by the constable, and paid her back the three > halfpence; and she gave up the basket to the prosecutrix. At the time of > the transaction, the prisoner was not "true drunk" but had been drinking. > Verdict, Guilty. Four Months' hard labour. > > ........... > > CATHERINE MORRIS, 31, was charged with having on the 19th of April, at > Redruth, stolen from the person of JOHN OLIVER, one sovereign, two > half-crowns, and two shillings, the property of the said John Oliver. The > prosecutor, a miner living at Gwennap, on the 19th of April, was at the > King's Arms, in Redruth, having the money named in a bag. Prisoner was in > the room when he paid for a pint of beer. > He was standing with his back towards her, when she put her hand into his > right hand pocket and ran off. He then missed his bag and money, and ran > after the prisoner into the street, and apprehended her, and gave her in > charge. Knew the bag and money were in his pocket about ten minutes > before. > > -WILLIAM BARNETT, a lad employed at the yard of the King's Arms on the day > in question, saw the prisoner pass down through the court with a bag in > one hand, and a finger and thumb of the other hand in the bag. Afterwards > saw constable Tredinnick pick up the bag about thirty or forty yards from > the place; he believed that bag to be the same he had seen in prisoner's > hands. > > -JOHN TREDINNICK, constable, apprehended prisoner and was present when she > was searched; there was found on her two half-crowns and three shillings > in a housewife, but no bag. In consequence of information given by the > last witness, witness went down the back-yard of the inn, and at about ten > or fifteen paces from where Barnett told him the prisoner had passed, he > found a bag on the ground. This witness produced the bag, which was > identified by the prosecutor and his wife. > > CHARLES TREGONING, constable of Redruth, stated that, after he had the > prisoner in custody, she at first denied all knowledge of the robbery; but > the next day she said if there was any sovereign among the silver, she > must have lost it in the crowd. Verdict, Guilty of stealing from the > person. Four Months' hard labour. > > ............ > > JOHN DAVIS, 19, charged with stealing, on the 28th of April, from the > boiler-house at Drakewalls mine, in the parish of Calstock, a pair of > shoes and a pair of stockings, the property of HENRY WILLIAMS, miner. > Guilty. Four Months' hard labour. > > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, My grandfather, born in Beacon, Camborne, used to tell me when I was young, that if I didn't behave, I would be put in the spence under the stairs. I had to use my imagination for what that might have been like... until the first Harry Potter movie came along and I saw where his aunt and uncle made him stay. It was the imagined spence of my childhood. Doug Nicol -- Norman D. Nicol, Ph.D. Professional Genealogist/Family Historian Specializing in NE Pennsylvania, England, esp. Cornwall, and Scotland ----- Original Message ----- From: jwmos99@msn.com To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com, cornish@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:50:47 PM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 4 July 1851, Qtr Sessions, part 3 Does anyone know what a "Spence under the stairs" might have been?

A spence is a cupboard or storage space under the stairs. The word was used regularly in my home when I grew up in Cornwall. Lorna ----- Original Message ----- From: <jwmos99@msn.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com>; <cornish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:50 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 4 July 1851, Qtr Sessions, part 3 > > Does anyone know what a "Spence under the stairs" might have been? >