Hi Tom, Thanks for replying regarding Minnie NANKERVIS. I really don't know if she was from St. Just... only that Frank HALL was. He was the son of William HALL and Sarah EDDY, born ca 1870 (no baptism found yet), one of nine children born to them. See my website at www.annebrooks.ca Anne Message: 1 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:53:04 +0100 From: "Tom Hill" <tphill@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just To: "Mary Hester" <mhester@tiscali.co.uk>, <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <EF2013C4EBA34295AF5C3F5E5A163BA0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original My Grandmother was a "Minnie" Minnie Jane HALL Born 3 - 5 -1871. Minnie Jane HALL Bosavern, St Just. Christen: 7 - 8 -1871. Minie Jane HALL Bible Christian Chapel, Cripples Hill, St Just. Daughter of William & Margaret Jane (WILLIAMS) I have no record of a Frank HALL born c.1870. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1262 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

WATER is a surname down here in Cornwall so it could be that they have taken the mother's maiden name as a forename. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Curkeet" <cricket_@ameritech.net> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 2:01 PM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] a forename Is Water the sic. for Walter. Alce is Al(i)ce, An is An(n), Antony is Ant(h)noy, Margrit or Margret is (Margaret), but sometimes they have 'Walter' and sometimes 'Water', is Water a forename in the 1500 & 1600s? Regards, Donald E. Curkeet OPC-Helston, St. Cleer, St. Martin in Meneage-CON http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ecricket5/ OPC-Newton Ferrers, St. Budeaux, Charles the Martyr, Pennycross-DEV http://www.rootsweb.com/~engdevon/Plymouth/ member of CFHS, SWCS, LCGS, GCGS ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Louise, Most Parishes had Church Villages. They were the collection of houses round the church. The William Sobye who married Ann Treverton did have a Father named John but it was not the John in Lanivet. His son William remained unmarried. I am sending you the Lanivet John's line off list. So far I have not connected the William who married Ann Treverton though. Regards, Susan in Wadebridge CFHS 9508 OPC for St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan & St Columb Major Parish Reconstruction up to 1891 on St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan, Padstow, St Issey, Little Petherick, St Wenn, Withiel, Egloshayle, St Breock, St Columb Major & Minor, Newlyn East, St Kew, St Mabyn & St Tudy http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2920 - Release Date: 06/05/10 19:25:00

Hello, Could anyone please help me with a place called "Church Village" in St Mabyn / Lanivet area? Is the Church Village, Lanivet likely to be the nearset for an address for a marriage entry in St Mabyn in Dec 1840? I'm going to state the obvious - Please don't get hung up with the variant SOBEY spelling! I've been supplied with this marriage (Thank you again Myra).... 31 Dec 1840, William SOBEY, age minor, bachelor, labourer, of Church Village, son of John a labourer Ann TREVERTON, age minor, spinster of Church Village, dau of John a labourer Both made their marks Witnesses: John Marshall, John Jane? Here they are in 1841 (haven't yet found them after son's bapt in 1842 for better clue to date & place of birth.) 1841: St Mabyn Village Civil parish: St Mabyn Hundred: Trigg County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Bodmin Sub-registration district: St Mabyn St Mabyn Village William SOBY 20 / Ag Lab / y Ann SOBY 20 / y I am trying to connect William c.1820 to a father John and have several potentials, this is the nearest address... I have this 1841 entry (& they are still there in 1851...) Enumeration District 4 / Folio 22 Page 12 Civil parish: Lanivet / Hundred: Pyder County/Island: Cornwall Registration district: Bodmin Sub-registration district: Bodmin Church Village John SOBYE /50 / Ag lab / y Nancy SOBYE / 55 / / y Philip SOBYE / 15 / Shoemaker App / y Joseph SOBYE /10 / Ag Lab /y Mary SOBYE / 9 / y Nancy MELLON / 75 / Pauper (Crossed Out) / y John & Ann 'Nancy' (nee BENNETT) apparently had a son William c. 1820 Lanivet, who I can find no further trace of, unless he married Ann TREVERTON. Thank you for any assistance. regards, Louise

CORONER'S INQUEST > On the 14th instant, an inquest was held at Little Petherick, before Mr. > HAMLEY, county coroner, on JOHN HENWOOD, aged 76. He had been at a > neighbour's house, and on returning to his own , a > woman saw him holding by his door. On going up to him he asked her what > was the matter; she > looked down and saw a pool of blood on the ground. She got assistance; he > was placed in a chair, and died almost immediately. It appeared that a > large blood vessel had burst in his leg, which caused his death. Verdict > accordingly. This was John Green Henwood who married Elizabeth Pascoe on 10 Oct 1799 in St Ervan. They had 7 children all born in Little Petherick and Elizabeth died on 8 Aug 1842. There are links to LANG, BRENTON, BUNT, FREETHY and HONEY through the marriages of the children. Please ask if you want to know more. Regards, Susan in Wadebridge CFHS 9508 OPC for St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan & St Columb Major Parish Reconstruction up to 1891 on St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan, Padstow, St Issey, Little Petherick, St Wenn, Withiel, Egloshayle, St Breock, St Columb Major & Minor, Newlyn East, St Kew, St Mabyn & St Tudy http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2920 - Release Date: 06/05/10 19:25:00

Is Water the sic. for Walter.  Alce is Al(i)ce, An is An(n), Antony is Ant(h)noy, Margrit or Margret is (Margaret), but sometimes they have 'Walter' and sometimes 'Water', is Water a forename in the 1500 & 1600s?  Regards, Donald E. Curkeet OPC-Helston, St. Cleer, St. Martin in Meneage-CON http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ecricket5/ OPC-Newton Ferrers, St. Budeaux, Charles the Martyr, Pennycross-DEV http://www.rootsweb.com/~engdevon/Plymouth/ member of CFHS, SWCS, LCGS, GCGS

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 18 JULY 1851 LOCAL INTELLIGENCE THE CRYSTAL PALACE - On Tuesday last, a special meeting of the Truro Local Committee, in aid of the Great Exhibition, CAPT. WARD in the chair, was held in the Justice's room, at the Truro Town-hall when the subject of retaining the Crystal Palace as a winter garden and promenade, as proposed by Mr. PAXTON, was taken into consideration; and it was unanimously resolved that the committee highly approves of Mr. Paxton's proposition, and adopts his form of petition to parliament for carrying the object into effect. The petition to the Lords was desired to be sent to the Duke of Northumberland for presentation, and that to the Commons to the Members for the borough, with a request that they would be pleased to support the prayer of the petitions. The petitions have since, we understand, been numerously and respectably signed by the inhabitants of the town. ANNIVERSARIES On Tuesday last Port Isaac Chapel Anniversary was held, when a sermon of a deeply impressive kind was preached by the Rev. J. BRANWELL, of Bodmin. Tea was laid out in an avenue in Rose Cottage Gardens, near the chapel, the place being tastefully decorated with flags, and an awning being formed that perfectly screened the company from the sun. A goodly number partook of tea; the gardens were thrown open to all who chose to avail themselves of the privilege, and the company appeared delighted with their kind reception. At half-past six o'clock a public meeting was held, the chair being ably filled by Mr. THOMAS PEARSE, of Bodmin, and addresses were delivered by the Rev. J. FISHER, the Rev. E. BRANSTOM, the Rev. J. BRANWELL, and another friend. The speeches were listened to with the deepest attention and delight; at the conclusion those parties who came from a distance, were invited to partake of refreshments in the gardens, where tea had been provided, and all then departed highly pleased with the day's proceedings. The annual tea drinking in connection with the Gunnislake school, took place on Monday last, at the Wesleyan chapel at that place, when a vast number of children, with twenty-six teachers, bearing flags, perambulated the streets, returning to the chapel accompanied by many of the respectable inhabitants, who purchased tickets in aid of the school. After tea the Rev. Mr. RYAN, superintendent of the district, preached a sermon on the occasion to a crowded congregation, and at the close a collection was made for books, &c., required for the school. The children returned to their respective homes well pleased with the day's entertainment. POST OFFICE APPOINTMENT - Mr. E. PHILP, bookseller, has been appointed Postmaster of Callington. BUDE - The hay harvest in this locality is nearly finished, with an abundant crop, and saved in fine condition. The potatoes in gardens are touched slightly with the disease, but the root is fine at present. The field culture has not as yet exhibited the blight. The turnip and other green crops are wanting more moisture. EARLY HARVEST - Mr. RICHARD STEPHENS, of Pentire, in Crantock, commenced harvest by cutting both barley and oats on the 17th instant, being, as usual, the first in that locality, and in fine condition. On Tuesday last, Mr. LAWRY, of Broads in Helland, near Bodmin, cut a very fine field of oats about three acres; and on the same day, Mr. HENRY HOOPER, of Penhargard, in Heland, cut a field of oats. Mr. PETER W. CLEAVE, of Lower Croan, in the parish of Egloshayle, commenced cutting wheat on Tuesday last. The wheat generally in the above parish is rapidly progressing to maturity, and in many places the sickle will soon be in requisition. The prospects at present in the parishes in this neighbourhood are cheering, and should the weather continue favourable, a plentiful harvest may be fairly calculated on. REDUCTION OF RENT The Rev. PETER F. HONY, L.L.D., at his audit, held at Menheniot on the 14th instant, made his usual deduction of 15 per cent, on his rents. PROBUS FAIR This fair on Monday last, was very large, but the sales were heavy. The demand for plough oxen and steers was limited, there being few dealers from the eastern counties, the price was 10s. per head less than at Grampound fair. Of fat beef there was plenty, but the sale was dull at about late prices; fat sheep out of their wool fetched 4 1/2 d. per lb. The lean cows were a very poor lot. CONCERT SIGNOR JACOBOWITCH, a vocalist, assisted by Madame Jacobowitch, who presided at the harp, and by VON HARTMAN, the violinist, gave a concert at the Town-hall, St. Austell, on Wednesday evening, the 9th instant. Signor Jacobowitch has vocal powers of no ordinary description, and his performance was quite unique and highly entertaining. Von Hartman performed some pieces on the violin in a masterly style. The attendance was but limited. TRURO POLICE ELIZABETH KERNICK was committed on Saturday last, to Bodmin for ten days hard labour for breaking a pane of glass in the Devon and Cornwall Bank, Truro. CATHERINE BOASE was also committed for fourteen days, ELIZABETH WILLOUGHBY for twenty-one days, and ELIZABETH CARPENTER for one month, for being concerned with Kernick in the breaking. All the delinquents belonged to Redruth. FIRE On Friday night, about twelve o'clock at noon, a fire broke out in a dwelling-house at Carvath, St. Austell. The house (a double one) had a thatch roof and the flames spread rapidly, and in about an hour and a half there was nothing left but the bare walls. The town engines were soon on the spot, but the want of a sufficient supply of water paralyzed their efforts, and they could do little more than prevent the fire from extending to the adjoining houses. The fire was caused by a child of one of the tenants taking a light into a back house and kindling some reed, which immediately communicated to the thatch roof. The house, we believe, was not insured, but it was of no great value. Fortunately the weather was very calm or the consequences would in all probability have been much more disastrous. ACCIDENT On Thursday last, as the seven o'clock mail was entering the town of St. Austell, a little boy three years of age, son of Mr. B. J. NOTT, was playing on the side of the road, when on the approach of the mail, he ran across towards his home. One of the leaders knocked him down, but the coachman pulled up at once, and the child was taken out with no other damage than one of his arms having been badly bruised. CORONER'S INQUEST On the 14th instant, an inquest was held at Little Petherick, before Mr. HAMLEY, county coroner, on JOHN HENWOOD, aged 76. He had been at a neighbour's house, and on returning to his own , a woman saw him holding by his door. On going up to him he asked her what was the matter; she looked down and saw a pool of blood on the ground. She got assistance; he was placed in a chair, and died almost immediately. It appeared that a large blood vessel had burst in his leg, which caused his death. Verdict accordingly. STATISTICS OF CORNWALL - NO 30 To the EDITOR of the WEST BRITON SIR - I shall now beg to turn the attention of your readers to the numerous ancient fortifications and other earth works in Cornwall, which probably have been constructed by the ancient Cornish or some of their invaders, Romans, Saxons, or Danes. Many of the forts are on the summits of hills or on other commanding situations; some are well preserved, while others are nearly obliterated, principally by the operations of the husbandman, and are of various sizes; the greater number are circular or elliptical, some are square and others are irregular in their form; some are surrounded by three ramparts or banks and three trenches, some by two banks and trenches and many have only one bank and trench; some of the smaller circular forts appear to have been a central station or keep to an extensive area, which area is protected by a bank and ditch. Many of the promontories or headlands have been fortified by ditches and banks extending from sea to sea. Of these ancient forts, I have examined about one hundred and thirty in the western geographical division of the county, that is, west of Fowey and Camel rivers, and a few in the eastern division, and there are many more that I have not seen. The ancient barrows are numerous; I believe that I have seen about four hundred in the western division; there are also many ancient stones fixed upright and some stone circles. The barrows appear to be ancient burying places, in which it is probable that the remains of eminent chiefs are deposited. In some of them many earthen urns have been found, containing ashes and bones. Some antiquarians consider that the barrows are the most ancient of sepulchral monuments. Those in Cornwall are some of them constructed of earth and others of stones. On opening them, it is often found that the central part at the base is surrounded by a circle of stones fixe upright. Where there are three, four, or more together, they may probably have been intended by a victorious party to commemorate a battle, as well as for the interment of the remains of their fallen chiefs. At a place called "Twelve Barrows" in Perranzabuloe, there were eighteen of them in a row; parts of some of which have been carried away. Many of the barrows having been dug into and examined; there may probably be among your readers persons who can describe what may have been found in them. Such information would be generally acceptable, and I hope that some of those who can furnish such particulars, will be so kind as to do so. I shall begin my description of such of the ancient works as I have examined in the hundred of Penwith, and proceed eastward from the Land's End, arranging my several observations in the several parishes as they succeed each other in local situation. SENNEN - I am not aware that I have examined any thing in this parish. St. LEVAN - CASTLE TREREEN is a fortified promontory, having been protected by four ditches and banks, all of which extend from sea to sea; the inner ditch and bank (which bank is described by Borlase, nearly one hundred years ago, as being a stone wall) being at the narrow isthmus which connects the rocky promontory with the main land. This rocky promontory of rugged granite masses of rock is the more notable for having on the top of one of the ranges, the famed "Logging Rock," the history of which, with its overthrow and re-establishment, is too well known to need relation here. In Pryce's vocabulary of the ancient Cornish language, it is said that "Trereen" means fortified or fighting place. BURYAN - At BOLEIGH there are two granite stones fixed upright, one of them twelve feet and the other fourteen feet high; they are about fifty fathoms asunder, and a little more than a quarter of a mile south west is another such high stone. A quarter of a mile south west of Boleigh, by the side of the road to St. Levan, is an ancient stone cross. A little further south in an enclosure, there is an ancient circle of nineteen upright stones, some of which are fallen down. Borlase, in his "Antiquities," shows a much larger stone in the centre, which had fallen to an inclined position. A public path leads through this circle. About eighty fathoms from the circle towards Boleigh, is a barrow. Near Trewoof are the remains of an entrenchment, extending about two hundred fathoms, nearly straight. PAUL - Near TREBASIL are the remains of a circular entrenchment, occupying about one acre. Near its eastern part, just within the bank are two high posts, which may probably mark the entrance. Outside of the ditch, distant about sixty-five feet, is a circular fence, surrounding the entrenchment, where probably a second bank and ditch may once have encompassed the inner work. At KERRIS, is an elliptical enclosure, called the "Roundago," about half-an-acre, surrounded by a stone fence, with no ditch; at its southern part are two high posts, where probably was the entrance; the ground in the enclosure is higher than what is outside. Borlase, shows by a drawing, that there were four posts or pillars, about eight feet high, and there appeared to have fallen some stones which had probably been laid over the pillars, and that the whole had formed a sort of portal, eighteen feet long by eleven wide. I am, sir, your obedient servant RICHARD THOMAS Falmouth, 11th July, 1851 P.S. - In my last letter (No. 29) in describing the length of road of the Halworthy Trust, which is travelled over at Blue Anchor, and for which a full toll is paid, it is stated to be about a mile; whereas it is only about half a mile. .......................... OTHER HEADLINES "Fatal Orange Riot at Liverpool" - 2000 to 3000 persons in an Orange Club marched in Liverpool , where they were opposed by an Irish contingent, and 3 lives were lost (a policeman, a marcher, and an Irishman.) Quite a few in hospital, and some of those not expected to live. "The Late Fatal Collision on the Midland Railway" - acquittal of JOHN THOMPSON, guard, for not warning a following train that his train was stopped ahead, which might have avoided the ensuing collision and loss of life. "Queen Attends Dinner in The City" - after visiting the Crystal Palace, of course.

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER, transcribed by Julia Mosman 18 July 1851 ........................BIRTHS At Truro, on the 5th instant, the wife of Mr. F. ANEAR, gunsmith, of a daughter; and on the 6th, the wife of Mr. SMITH, easting-house-keeper, of a son. At Truro, on the 17th instant, the wife of Mr. John THOMAS, butcher, of a son. At Newford, Scilly, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. Thos. MUMFORD, of a son. At Penzance, on the 10th instant, the wife of Mr. Edward LAVIN, stationer, of a daughter. At Nancledra, in the parish of Towednack, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. Thomas CURNOW, of a son. At Newquay, on Saturday last, the wife of Capt. Nicholas HOCKIN, of the smack "Busy," of a daughter. At Mitchell, the wife of Mr. William MERRIFIELD, smith, of twins; and the wife of Mr. William TAMBLYN, carpenter, of a daughter. At St. Mawes, on the 10th instant, the wife fo mr. John ISABLE, of a son. At St. Austell, on the 10th instant, the wife of Mr. R. WILTON, of the Temperance Hotel, of a son. At Charlestown, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. William NEWMAN, lath-maker, of a daughter. At Bodmin, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Frederick S. PARKYN, of a daughter. At East Looe, on the 4th instant, the wife of Mr. John LITTLE, of a son. At Smeaton, in the parish of Pillaton, on the 10th instant, the wife of Mr. Eustace ELLIOTT, of a daughter. At Southbrook Cottage, near Starcross, on Friday last, the wife of Trehawke KEKEWICH, Esq., of a son. ..................MARRIAGES At Sithney, on Monday last, Captain Thomas BUNT, of Porthleven, to Miss Eliza JOSE, of Poltiscoe Cottage, in the parish of Grade. At Madron, on Monday last, Mr. Edward ALLANSON, of Reeth, Yorkshire, to Miss Anne BOND, of Penzance. At Ludgvan, on Saturday last, Mr. David STEVENS to Miss Jane THOMAS, both of that parish. At St. Erth, on the 10th instant, Mr. John BIRCH, to Martha, only daughter of Mr. John BERRYMAN, both of that place. At the Association Chapel, Redruth, on Tuesday last, by the Rev. Mr. ELLERY, Mr. William ROSEWARNE, to Miss Caroline Carr ORCHARD, both of that place. At St. Day, on Tuesday last, Mr. John W. LACK, manager of the Plymouth gas works, to Miss Mary H. MATTHEWS. At St. Just in Roseland, Mr. John CHYNOWETH to Miss Louisa WHITFORD, both of that place. At Budehaven, on the 7th instant, Mr. John SPRY to Miss Matilda HERRING. At Plymouth, on the 28th ult., Mr. BUCKTHOUGHT, draper, to Anne, second daughter of mr. John GIBSON, tobaqcco manufacturer, Devonport. At Tormoham, on the 10th inst., Henry reade HODDING, Esq., of Salisbury, to Harriet, fourth daughter of the late James N.P. COSSERAT, Esq., of Torquay. At St. Marylebone, London, on the 10th instant, Lieut. G. R. MENDS, R.N., of HMS "Trafalgar," son of Rear-Admiral W. b. MENDS, to Louise, second daugher of J.B. WILCOCKS, Esq., and grand-daughter of J.M. WILLCOCKS, Esq., of Exeter. At Edgbaston, on the 28th ult., Mr. John C. JAKSON, of Tavistock, to Emma Joyce, daughter of the late Mr. W. MOLE, of Birmingham. At the Baptist Church, Eynlsford, Kent, on the 10th instant, Mr. Francis Alfred MORRISH, of the Soap Works, Sutton Road, Plymouth, to Isabella, sixth daughter of the late George MANDY, Esq., of Ash, Kent. At Winchester, on the 9th instant, Henry, second son of E. S. Chandos POLE, Esq., of Radbourne, Derby, to Henrietta Auriol, youngest daughter fo the late E. W. A. DRUMMOND HAY, Esq., her Majesty's Political Agent and Consul General for Moroccco. At the Independent Chapel, Melbourne, Port Phillip, on the 23rd January last, Mr. John FERRES, late of the city of Bath, to Mary, eldest daughter of Mr. DAVEY, of Falmouth. .................................DEATHS At Rosewin Row, Truro, on Wednesday last, Jenefer, relict of the late Mr. R. ROBARTS, aged 72 years. At Truro, on Saturday last, Leah, daughter of Mr. James UREN, painter, aged 8 years. At Helston, on Friday last, Mr. Richard CHAPPEL, gardener, aged 72 years. At Porthleven, on Wednesday last, George, eldest son of Mr. George MATTHEWS, aged 23 years. At St. Mary's, Scilly, on the 8th instant, Mrs. J. WOOLCOCK, aged 81 years. At Penzance, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. B. BECKERLEG, baker, aged 53 years. At Mousehole, on the 8th instant, Mrs. Grace MATTHEWS, aged 63 years. At Cockwells, in the parish of Ludgvan, on Friday last, the eldest son of Mr. Henry THOMAS, aged 13 years. At Colloryan, in the aprish of Ludgvan, on the 10th inst., the infant son of Mr. Richard RUBBERY. At Brunion, in the parish of Lelant, on Saturday last, Catharine Martin, second daughter of Mr. Henry PEARCE, aged 12 years. At Lower Penhale, in the parish of St. Enoder, on Sunday last, Robert, son of Mr. Nicholas FRANCIS, aged 19 years. At Portloe, near Tregony, on the 10th instant, Mr. William RUNDLE, carpenter, at an advanced age. At Hewas Water, in the parish of Creed, on Monday last, Mrs. KESTELL, aged 47 years. At Eglosrose, in the parish of Philleigh, on Tuesday last, Mr. Nicholas DOBLE, son of Mr. Richard DOBLE, aged 40 years. At Bodmin, on Saturday lst, after a long illness, Miss Elizabeth SMITH, aged 27 years. At East Looe, on Wednesday last, Mrs. JOHNS, aged 74 years. At Budehaven, on the 4th instant, Capt. John HATHERLY, late master of the smack "Stucley," aged 42 years. At Liskeard, on Monday last, suddenly, Mrs. Sarah WILLS, aged 60 years. At Trefrew, near Camelford, on Sunday last, the wtin children of Mr. John LUXON. At St. Stephens by Launceston, on Friday last, Mrs. COOKE, aged 57 years. At Devonport, on the 8th instant, Mrs. GOLDSWORTHY, mother of Mr. Goldsworthy, artist, of Truro, aged 60 years. At Stonehouse, on the 10th instant, the Rev. Robert Stapylton BREE, Vicar of Tintagel, and a Magistrate for this county, aged 51 years. At Plymouth, on Saturday last, Lavinia, wife of Mr. George P. CARDELL, and sister of Mr. SAMBELL, architect, of Falmouth, aged 37 years. At Plymouth, on the 10th instant, the wife of Lieut. LETHBRIDGE, R.N., late of Penzance. At Exeter, on the 6th instant, Mary Davis, wife of Paul MEASOR, Esq., postmaster of that city, and eldest daughter of the late Rev. Henry Cox MASON, Rector of Bermondsey, Surrey, aged 65 years. At Bendenall Place, Hoxton, London, on the 8th instant, Mrs. Catherine MILLER, widow of Mr. Edward MILLER, formerly of Redruth, aged 75 years. At Clanwilliam, Cape of Good Hope, on the 22nd of April last, William, son of G. KEKEWICH, Esq., of Staverton, Devon. On his passage from Rio Janeiro to Baltimore, on the 30th of March last, of yellow fever, Mr. John ELLIS, carpenter of the brig "Tyne," of Penzance, aged 27 years. At Rio de Janeiro, of yellow fever, Capt. William John WRIGHT, of the "Ide," of Penzance. Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

My Grandmother was a "Minnie" Minnie Jane HALL Born 3 - 5 -1871. Minnie Jane HALL Bosavern, St Just. Christen: 7 - 8 -1871. Minie Jane HALL Bible Christian Chapel, Cripples Hill, St Just. Daughter of William & Margaret Jane (WILLIAMS) I have no record of a Frank HALL born c.1870. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Hester" <mhester@tiscali.co.uk> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just > Hi Anne > > Minnie is usually an abbreviation of Mary so also look under Birth records > on that name. My gut feeling is that Minnie in St Just is your one but > the > only way you can be sure is to get the Birth Certificate. > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Brooks" <anbrooks@nbnet.nb.ca> > To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 27 May 2010 20:27 > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] NANKERVIS in St. Just > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 278 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2917 - Release Date: 06/04/10 07:25:00

Greetings cousins my New Zealand-born Cornish-Irish lad "went back to Ireland", his mother's birthplace before she was shipped to Australia with other famine orphans. But was this Thomas Burgess, b 1862, or his older brother William Henry Burgess, b 1858? One of the reasons I don't know is that he doesn't seem to be in the Census, unless he's lieing about his birthplace. In the 1901 Census he should be 39, or 43, married, probably childless. Too young to be dead, or family legend would have added, "died young." I can't see him in the 1911 Census either. Did he in fact work and move around in the UK, and live in Ireland only at times? If so, could he be found in near his extended Cornish family? If he is indeed childless, then none of his descendants is looking for connections. (Well, you don't have to be Irish to see the odd logic of that.) Anyone with a possible boarder / visitor etc who might be mine, please tell me Migs Eder Christchurch New Zealand On 4/06/2010, at 7:00 PM, cornish-gen-request@rootsweb.com wrote:

I am sorry for my posting on this marriage. I inadvertantly left the tail on the message and did not change the title line so here it is properly done There is no such marriage that I can see...sorry. Nearest to your date is Mary TEAGUE in Kenwyn 20 Oct 1770. I did check all spellings of SKEWES. Regards, Susan in Wadebridge CFHS 9508 OPC for St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan & St Columb Major Parish Reconstruction up to 1891 on St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan, Padstow, St Issey, Little Petherick, St Wenn, Withiel, Egloshayle, St Breock, St Columb Major & Minor, Newlyn East, St Kew, St Mabyn & St Tudy http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2915 - Release Date: 06/03/10 07:25:00

There is no such marriage that I can see...sorry. Nearest to your date is Mary TEAGUE in Kenwyn 1770. Regards, Susan in Wadebridge CFHS 9508 OPC for St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan & St Columb Major Parish Reconstruction up to 1891 on St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan, Padstow, St Issey, Little Petherick, St Wenn, Withiel, Egloshayle, St Breock, St Columb Major & Minor, Newlyn East, St Kew, St Mabyn & St Tudy http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland I think my seafaring Irish branch of Skuses may originally have come from Cornwall anyway (variant of Skewes), although too far back to prove it. The earliest couple I have found is a Skuse married to a Hicks. Skuse, Hicks - sound familiar to anyone? In fact, if anyone comes across a marriage of a Richard Skewes to a Mary Hicks in Cornwall before 1786 please let me know! Joy ________________________________ From: Pat Banks <tencreek@tpg.com.au> To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 3 June, 2010 1:29:07 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland Thanks Joy, My paternal grandfather came from Northern Ireland although my mother was thoroughly Cornish. Thank you very much for the info. Cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Langdon Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 5:09 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; Devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland Sorry, this is off topic but I am sure it will be of interest to many listers. The 1901 Ireland census has gone on-line tonight. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ then select 1911 or 1901. They are both FREE to access in full! Joy ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2914 - Release Date: 06/02/10 19:25:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2915 - Release Date: 06/03/10 07:25:00

Thanks for looking Susan.  I suspect that the move to Ireland was much earlier (fishermen or mariners marrying local girls and settling I suspect - they were Catholic so not part of the Plantations).   The names both seem to have originated in Cornwall, though. Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Susan Old <susanold@btinternet.com> To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 3 June, 2010 17:24:43 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland There is no such marriage that I can see...sorry. Nearest to your date is Mary TEAGUE in Kenwyn 1770. Regards, Susan in Wadebridge CFHS 9508 OPC for St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan & St Columb Major Parish Reconstruction up to 1891 on St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan, Padstow, St Issey, Little Petherick, St Wenn, Withiel, Egloshayle, St Breock, St Columb Major & Minor, Newlyn East,  St Kew, St Mabyn & St Tudy http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland I think my seafaring Irish branch of Skuses may originally have come from Cornwall anyway (variant of Skewes), although too far back to prove it. The earliest couple I have found is a Skuse married to a Hicks. Skuse, Hicks - sound familiar to anyone? In fact, if anyone comes across a marriage of a Richard Skewes to a Mary Hicks in Cornwall before 1786 please let me know! Joy ________________________________ From: Pat Banks <tencreek@tpg.com.au> To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 3 June, 2010 1:29:07 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland Thanks Joy, My paternal grandfather came from Northern Ireland although my mother was thoroughly Cornish. Thank you very much for the info. Cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Langdon Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 5:09 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; Devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland Sorry, this is off topic but I am sure it will be of interest to many listers. The 1901 Ireland census has gone on-line tonight. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ then select 1911 or 1901. They are both FREE to access in full! Joy ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2914 - Release Date: 06/02/10 19:25:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2915 - Release Date: 06/03/10 07:25:00 ------------------------------- Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought I corrected that myself yesterday. I responded to someone from the list that pointed it out and I said solar flare must have sent my internal compass spinning. Happy Days John Newcastle NSW Aus -------------------------------------------------- From: "Clare Pascoe" <cbpascoe@yahoo.com.au> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:25 AM To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Trip to Australia > Just to correct John's typo: > > John Griffiths wrote: >> Scone and the Bell Trees area it's about 4 hours south of Sydney NSW >> by car. > > It's NORTH of Sydney rather than south. > > Clare > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Woo Hoo! Many thanks for the letting us know. Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com>; <Devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:09 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland Sorry, this is off topic but I am sure it will be of interest to many listers. The 1901 Ireland census has gone on-line tonight. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ then select 1911 or 1901. They are both FREE to access in full! Joy ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just to correct John's typo: John Griffiths wrote: > Scone and the Bell Trees area it's about 4 hours south of Sydney NSW > by car. It's NORTH of Sydney rather than south. Clare

Thanks Joy, My paternal grandfather came from Northern Ireland although my mother was thoroughly Cornish. Thank you very much for the info. Cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Langdon Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 5:09 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; Devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland Sorry, this is off topic but I am sure it will be of interest to many listers.  The 1901 Ireland census has gone on-line tonight. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ then select 1911 or 1901.  They are both FREE to access in full! Joy ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think my seafaring Irish branch of Skuses may originally have come from Cornwall anyway (variant of Skewes), although too far back to prove it.  The earliest couple I have found is a Skuse married to a Hicks.    Skuse, Hicks - sound familiar to anyone?  In fact, if anyone comes across a marriage of a Richard Skewes to a Mary Hicks in Cornwall before 1786 please let me know! Joy ________________________________ From: Pat Banks <tencreek@tpg.com.au> To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 3 June, 2010 1:29:07 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland Thanks Joy, My paternal grandfather came from Northern Ireland although my mother was thoroughly Cornish.  Thank you very much for the info. Cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Langdon Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 5:09 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; Devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland Sorry, this is off topic but I am sure it will be of interest to many listers.  The 1901 Ireland census has gone on-line tonight. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ then select 1911 or 1901.  They are both FREE to access in full! Joy       ------------------------------- Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much Bill. Disappointing, but it is better to know when you are barking up the wrong tree eh? So I will move right along and keep looking. I appreciate your help to me and to everyone. Marg A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Curnow" <wjcurnow@kernow.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:50 PM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] John Uren - Long Rock > Marg, > > I believe you are referring to the John UREN, 58, of Long Rock, who was > buried at Ludgvan on 18 Dec 1852. > > In my opinion, this man was the son of James UREN & Anne NICHOLLS who was > baptized at Gulval on 14 Jun 1795. He was married at Gulval on 07 Apr > 1822 > to Elizabeth CORIN, and they had two children prior to her death in 1827. > He then married Alice THOMAS at Madron on 18 Nov 1831, and they had at > least > 8 children. > > John and family lived at Long Rock at the 1841 and 1851 Census. He was > described as a farmer in 1841 and as a farm labourer in 1851. > > Long Rock is a community that straddles the parishes of Ludgvan and > Gulval. > It is located on the flat, fertile coastal land along the shore of Mounts > Bay. Two major occupations of people living at Long Rock in the 19th > century were farming and market gardening and also jobs associated with > the > GWR that ran through Long Rock on its final approach to Penzance. > > > Bill Curnow > Ludgvan OPC > Port Charlotte, FL, USA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marg & Neil Andrews" <margay@tadaust.org.au> > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 7:52 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] John Uren - Long Rock > > >> Hi all, >> On the wonderful Cornwall database I have found what could be the burial >> of my JOHN UREN aged 58 at Long Rock. Transcribed by Bill Curnow. >> Wikepedia tells me where Long Rock is, but my question is: >> >> My John Uren was a miner at Chacewater - would there have been any copper >> mines in Long Rock in 1852 that may have tempted him to move? >> He was married to Ann/Nanny (nee Hawke) with 10 kids and I understand >> that he 59 on the 1851 census but absent from the 1861. >> >> Freebdm has 2 possible deaths: >> 1. June Q 1852 at Truro >> 2. March Q 1855 at Truro neither of which match the one at Long Rock. >> I have a couple of options for John's birth/christening and can't decide >> on >> that either :-) I am pretty sure he was born/chr 1792 to 1795. >> >> Marg A in Oz

Thanks Joy, that is brilliant news. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com>; <Devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: 02 June 2010 22:09 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] 1901 census Ireland Sorry, this is off topic but I am sure it will be of interest to many listers. The 1901 Ireland census has gone on-line tonight. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ then select 1911 or 1901. They are both FREE to access in full! Joy ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 281 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message