No! I've been trying continuously for an hour and a half without any success. It is a farce. Clearly, the site's server capacity is totally inadequate to cope with the not unexpected demand this 'free' offer was bound to generate. Colin Ward On 12 June 2010 20:22, <klaush@iprimus.com.au> wrote: > Has anyone actually been able to get onto the site? Iv'e been trying for > half an hour and it keeps saying page unavailable. I had pre-registered. > Lyn in Melbourne > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I had expected this. You are lucky to get 6, I only got 3. I would get one, then I would get booted out and have to start all over again. Each one took about half hour to get. At least I got the ones that I really wanted. 3 hours wasn't enough time, but I really can't complain as they were FREE. Diane in Wisconsin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Relph" <peter@relph.org> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] 1911 Census Free while England play football. >I got in just before the start, and although it's like running in mud, I've > managed to get 6 households in 90 minutes. > Don't use the 1911Census site, they are still charging. > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colin and Wendy > Ward > Sent: Sunday, 13 June 2010 5:33 AM > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] 1911 Census Free while England play football. > > No! I've been trying continuously for an hour and a half without any > success. It is a farce. Clearly, the site's server capacity is totally > inadequate to cope with the not unexpected demand this 'free' offer was > bound to generate. > > Colin Ward > > > > On 12 June 2010 20:22, <klaush@iprimus.com.au> wrote: > >> Has anyone actually been able to get onto the site? Iv'e been trying for >> half an hour and it keeps saying page unavailable. I had pre-registered. >> Lyn in Melbourne >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marg, Assuming there are only two possibles, I think the first christening is more likely to be yours. St Agnes near Truro, Stithians and Kenwyn were all parishes. St Agnes near Truro was next to Kenwyn (and part of Truro itself was in it). Stithians not close, comparatively speaking. Here are the links to the Genuki pages for all 3 parishes: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Kenwyn/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/StAgnes/index.html http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Stithians/ And a map showing the parishes http://www.cornwalleng.com/parishmap3.gif Good luck, Joanne Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg & Neil Andrews" <margay@tadaust.org.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 9:21 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] St Agnes and Stithians in Kenwyn? > Hi all, > In order to separate 2 christenings that could be my JOHN UREN I am > wondering if > a simple location request could decide for me? > > I have one John Uren chr 1795 at St Agnes near Truro s/o John & Mary > (Rule). > and another chr 17 January 1796 at Stithians Cornwall s/o John & Margaret. > > The 1851 Census in the Ecclesiastical District of St Paul's Chacewater > Cornwall Wheal Daniel 2, gives John's place of birth as Kenwyn and his age > as 59 (so born 1792) > John Uren died in 1852, so we can't use the 1861 for another check. > > So...... Am I right that St Agnes is in Kenwyn, but is Stithians????? > > I am just getting back to this family and I am hoping someone can clear my > path > on this please. > TIA from Marg in Queensland Oz. > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi everyone. Had this email today check it out no hoax. FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER….. FREE ACCESS TO THE 1911 ENGLAND & WALES CENSUS! Findmypast are allowing FREE access to the 1911 Census and all the other resources for which you'd normally need a subscription, but only while England are playing in the World Cup. Their first game is on Saturday 12th June, and the free access will be for 3 hours from 7pm British Summer Time. England's second game is on Friday 18th June, and the free access will again be for 3 hours from 7pm. Unless England qualify for the next stages of the competition their last game will be on Wednesday 23rd June, and the free access will be for 3 hours from 2.30pm. Please note that New York is 5 hours behind London, and California is 8 hours behind. Thus the free access on 12th June will begin at 2pm if you are on the East Coast, and 11am if you are on the West Coast. Click here to visit the special offer page at the findmypast site. You will need to register, and as their site is likely to be very busy during the offer, I would suggest you register in advance. derek  Derek Brooks Goonhavern Cornwall UK CFHS#09920 Cornish Extended Family http://cornish-family.netfirms.com/db1.htm UK Surnames http://www.uk-surnames.com/index.php Cornish-L Surnames http://www.cornish-surnames.org.uk Cornish Ancestors http://www.cornish-ancestors.info/Researchers/research_index.htm Genes Reunited http://www.genesreunited.co.uk

Thanks Horton, that brings back memories!! Pat Banks (Nee Magill) -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stanley Bolitho Sent: Saturday, 12 June 2010 3:19 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Lescudjack Castle Hello list; re the posting from the Morning News (we never say "western" locally when referring to it) of 25th July 1851, I thought I could say a little bit about what the correspondent called "Castle Skudjack". On the 1880 OS map it is clearly marked by its proper name. I live about 2 good stones' throws from it. As mentioned in Douglas Williams' history of Penzance it was virtually derelict for many years. A few years ago the local council acquired it, and have since cleared the site, so that it is now usable for people to walk there. Also it is now brought back into occasional use for events. Local "Old Cornish" enthusiasts have " rediscovered" the midwinter festival of Montal - mind you I've lived here well over 70 years and had never heard of it - and on Dec 23rd a lively torchlight procession assembles there and proceeds down through the streets with much merriment to the Municipal Buildings to be met by the mayor etc. On Easter Sunday morning the local churches hold a brief Dawn vigil and service there. On midsummer day also there is a Dawn vigil held, but I'm not so sure about the service this time! It is good to see a really ancient site like this being used again after basically being neglected, being described in 1845 as being almost past repair. A local authority school built nearby in 1917 was named after the site, and the school badge was a stylized castle. Unfortunately reorganization has meant the school is now subsumed into the "Humphrey Davy school. A couple of other observations;- Castle Horneck (formerly the home of the antiquarian Borlase) is basically private property, with a Youth Hostel and holiday complex in the grounds. It is worth noting that not far from Castle Horneck is Lesingey (pronounced "key" not "gee") Round which is very well preserved. Chapel Carn Brea is the site of one of the Old Cornwall Society's Midsummer bonfires. There are excellent views over Land's End to the Scillies. "Pertinney" is now spelt Bartinney, and is near the Land's End Road, easily spotted. The Plain an Gwarry at St. Just is very well used, especially during the Lafrowda festival. A year or two back Cornish Miracle Plays were performed there. Lafrwoda was an old name for St. Just. If anyone wants come to explore the sites mentioned outside St. Just, I can tell them the country is pretty rough! I hope this is of some interest; Cheers from Horton in windy Penzance. ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been away from the list for a short while so apologise if this has been posted by somebody already. This applies only to films being ORDERED FOR VIEWING AT FAMILY HISTORY CENTRES. Sorry for the shouting but it may save too many postings that are not relevant :)) There is a new ordering system set up by the LDS. https://film.familysearch.org/ You register, look at the Library Catalogue for the film number you require, pay by credit card and the film can then be viewed as normal at your family history centre. There is a facility for choosing the family history centre nearest to you and the film gets sent through to them. That is all I know about it at the moment as it is a new scheme. Diane

Hello list; re the posting from the Morning News (we never say "western" locally when referring to it) of 25th July 1851, I thought I could say a little bit about what the correspondent called "Castle Skudjack". On the 1880 OS map it is clearly marked by its proper name. I live about 2 good stones' throws from it. As mentioned in Douglas Williams' history of Penzance it was virtually derelict for many years. A few years ago the local council acquired it, and have since cleared the site, so that it is now usable for people to walk there. Also it is now brought back into occasional use for events. Local "Old Cornish" enthusiasts have " rediscovered" the midwinter festival of Montal - mind you I've lived here well over 70 years and had never heard of it - and on Dec 23rd a lively torchlight procession assembles there and proceeds down through the streets with much merriment to the Municipal Buildings to be met by the mayor etc. On Easter Sunday morning the local churches hold a brief Dawn vigil and service there. On midsummer day also there is a Dawn vigil held, but I'm not so sure about the service this time! It is good to see a really ancient site like this being used again after basically being neglected, being described in 1845 as being almost past repair. A local authority school built nearby in 1917 was named after the site, and the school badge was a stylized castle. Unfortunately reorganization has meant the school is now subsumed into the "Humphrey Davy school. A couple of other observations;- Castle Horneck (formerly the home of the antiquarian Borlase) is basically private property, with a Youth Hostel and holiday complex in the grounds. It is worth noting that not far from Castle Horneck is Lesingey (pronounced "key" not "gee") Round which is very well preserved. Chapel Carn Brea is the site of one of the Old Cornwall Society's Midsummer bonfires. There are excellent views over Land's End to the Scillies. "Pertinney" is now spelt Bartinney, and is near the Land's End Road, easily spotted. The Plain an Gwarry at St. Just is very well used, especially during the Lafrowda festival. A year or two back Cornish Miracle Plays were performed there. Lafrwoda was an old name for St. Just. If anyone wants come to explore the sites mentioned outside St. Just, I can tell them the country is pretty rough! I hope this is of some interest; Cheers from Horton in windy Penzance.

I have a noticed number of baptisms that not always is the father or mother mentioned in registers notes,I think Pat is on the right track - that one of the parents does not necessarily want any part of it. Cj - Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Hill" <tphill@btinternet.com> To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 11 June, 2010 4:54:38 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] abbreviation Thank you Pat, that is a possible. Has anyone else come across it ? Tom > > St Just & Sennen

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I am forwarding this for the benefit of non football lovers!  Sorry for tantalising the rest of you.   Joy   ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: sally roberts <sallyroberts55@hotmail.com> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 11 June, 2010 13:03:33 Subject: [DEV] Free Access to Findmypast Oh the dilemma.... watch the football or get free access to Find My Purse's records.....  http://www.findmypast.co.uk/world-cup.jsp?utm_source=FB&utm_content=120610&utm_campaign=WorldCup120610 Happy Hunting Everyone! Regards, Sally                         ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was looking forward to exercising the grey matter (yes, thankyou, I've mastered Sudoko and it became quite boring), but clicking on your link I got - If you are researching your family history, you may be somewhat surprised and perplexed when you come across a parish register, death certificate or coroner's report which states the cause of death as 'Visitation of God' (ex visitacone dei). What does this mean? For centuries, doctors struggled in the darkness over the causes of disease and death, and how the human body functioned. If a person died, often the doctor with his limited knowledge could only describe the cause of death as a fever, apoplexy, or convulsions, or what he could visibly see such as a head wound, or evidence of a lifestyle such as over indulgence of drink. Occasionally he would describe the cause of death as a Visitation of God. Used in a more religious time than ours, it meant the death was inexplicable and it was thought that God had decided that it was time for the person to die. It later came to mean that the person died of natural causes. It was a verdict often given by Coroner's juries, particularly in the 19th century. It was very rare that any autopsy was held and a doctor would give his opinion from the physical evidence of the body before him and the accounts he heard from others of the health of the deceased. Also the coroner was only really concerned with the detection of crime, so the medical reason for the death did not matter to him once criminality had been ruled out. In 1837 compulsory registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages was introduced. In an attempt to bring statistical order to the reports made by the Registrar General of Births, Deaths and Marriages on the numbers of such events, coroners were directed that the cause of death were to be made in precise terms, and terms such as Natural Death or Visitation of God were to be avoided where more precise medical terms on the cause of death could be used. However, there was a slow response to these directions, and it did not overcome the problem of a death where the coroner was not involved. Many doctors were still using the term. In 1869 the Royal College of Physicians published guidance called the Nomenclature of Disease which was issued to every doctor in the United Kingdom. It was attempt to create a common standard of classification to the various causes of death, and doctors were urged to use the guide when completing a death certificate. If no cause of death was given, the Registrar would be likely to return the certificate requesting the doctor to make a better diagnosis. Despite this, later legislation, and the advancement of medical knowledge, Visitation of God can still be found on the occasional death certificate up until 1900.

Thank you. It was recorded in a 1772 entry. tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] abbreviation I googled it and came across a reference on another website saying it is the Latin abbreviation of oppidum (town/village). This reference had "Innkeeper opp" after the father's name on the register. > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hill > Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010 3:46 AM > To: Cornish Diaspora > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] abbreviation > > I came across the letters opp. next to a christening in a case where only > the mother of the child was named. Anyone know what it stands for ? > > Tom > > St Just & Sennen

John, "Visitation of God" was the first thing written on my gt gt grandfather's dearth certificate. Next, it said Epileptic fits causing Sanguinaceous Apoplexy. He, Simeon Usher, ( who married Mary Lawry in 1849 St Anthony in Roseland) was only 36yrs. I had always thought that the Visitation from God part was something to do with the sudddeness, or out of the blue. He was out on a family outing 10th Aug 1858 ( at Farleigh Hungerford Castle) having set off apparently healthy and well. Nina Graham

Hi Tom I can only suggest that it means the Baptism was 'opposed' but it doesn't say 'By whom'??? All children needed to be baptised so that the authorities would know to which Parish the child belonged, in case of future need. Perhaps the mother was married but the father was opposed to the child being baptised in the Church of England so only the mother presented at church? Cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hill Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010 3:46 AM To: Cornish Diaspora Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] abbreviation I came across the letters opp. next to a christening in a case where only the mother of the child was named. Anyone know what it stands for ? Tom St Just & Sennen ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I googled it and came across a reference on another website saying it is the Latin abbreviation of oppidum (town/village).  This reference had "Innkeeper opp" after the father's name on the register. Joy ________________________________ From: Tom Hill <tphill@btinternet.com> To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 11 June, 2010 7:54:38 Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] abbreviation Thank you Pat, that is a possible. Has anyone else come across it ? Tom > > St Just & Sennen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Banks" <tencreek@tpg.com.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 2:20 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] abbreviation > Hi Tom > > I can only suggest that it means the Baptism was 'opposed' but it doesn't > say 'By whom'???  All children needed to be baptised so that the > authorities > would know to which Parish the child belonged, in case of future need. > Perhaps the mother was married but the father was opposed to the child > being > baptised in the Church of England so only the mother presented at church? > > Cheers > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hill > Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010 3:46 AM > To: Cornish Diaspora > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] abbreviation > > I came across the letters opp. next to a christening in a case where only > the mother of the child was named.  Anyone know what it stands for ? > > Tom > > St Just & Sennen > ------------------------------- > Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2929 - Release Date: 06/10/10 07:35:00 ------------------------------- Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Pat, that is a possible. Has anyone else come across it ? Tom > > St Just & Sennen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Banks" <tencreek@tpg.com.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 2:20 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] abbreviation > Hi Tom > > I can only suggest that it means the Baptism was 'opposed' but it doesn't > say 'By whom'??? All children needed to be baptised so that the > authorities > would know to which Parish the child belonged, in case of future need. > Perhaps the mother was married but the father was opposed to the child > being > baptised in the Church of England so only the mother presented at church? > > Cheers > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hill > Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010 3:46 AM > To: Cornish Diaspora > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] abbreviation > > I came across the letters opp. next to a christening in a case where only > the mother of the child was named. Anyone know what it stands for ? > > Tom > > St Just & Sennen > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2929 - Release Date: 06/10/10 07:35:00

I came across the letters opp. next to a christening in a case where only the mother of the child was named. Anyone know what it stands for ? Tom St Just & Sennen

Hello list & Diane, it was a slip on my part. Of course it was Benjamin she married, but James was the son from whom I'm descended. -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks Sent: 08 June 2010 01:52 To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Frances Richards burial Hullo Horton The only thing I can offer at present is that, according to the actual Register, Frances Bolitho married Benjamin Roberts not James Roberts in 1800. I cannot find anything in the Gulval Burials to match the information given by Diane in Wisconsin. Cheers Pat OPC Gulval -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stanley Bolitho Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2010 3:01 AM To: Cornish Email Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Frances Richards burial Hello list; I have had no success looking for the death/burial of Frances Richards. She was born Frances Bolitho about 1775 and married James Roberts of Gulval in 1800. He died in 1820. On July 13th 1839 she married Charles Richards, Miller, of Trythogga, at Gulval. She gave her father's name as James Bolitho. In 1851 she is living with Charles at Trythogga. Her age is given as 76 and her home parish as St. Just [in Penwith]. I have tried various sources for her death or burial without success. Any ideas anyone? Cheers, Horton in Penzance ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2923 - Release Date: 06/07/10 07:35:00

Whilst doing some research on my wife's family in Yorkshire I came across this entry, it might be a missing piece for some one. Egton St Hilda Parish Church, North Yorkshire. Marriage: 21st May 1722 Christopher CALVERT, fuller. = Thomasin BERRYMAN both of Egton. I hope Daniel or Christiana HILL of St Just will turn up somewhere like that, post 1871. Tom Hill St Just & Sennen

Hullo John Yes the death certificate of my great-great-grandfather, Jacob George, states Cause of Death as "Visitation of God in a natural way". The certificate is signed by H.W. Hitchens, Coroner of St.Ives , so I assume that he dropped dead un-expectedly, not having had any previous illness. I am looking forward to the West Briton inquest reports of July 1852 to see if they give any more information. Cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JOHN SLY Sent: Thursday, 10 June 2010 12:46 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 25 July 1851, Local Intelligence I have never come across 'visitation of God' on a death certificate Can anyone enlighten me as to whether this cause of death had any objective criteria (apart from 'God know what s/he died of'') and whether anyone has seen it on a certificate John Sly ________________________________ From: "jwmos99@msn.com" <jwmos99@msn.com> To: cornish@rootsweb.com; cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 9 June, 2010 8:12:23 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] weekly news, 25 July 1851, Local Intelligence WEST BRITON and CORNWALL ADVERTISER 25 JULY 1851 LOCAL INTELLIGENCE LAUNCESTON The anniversary of the Launceston National and Sunday schools took place on Friday last. The sermon was preached in Launceston church, by the REV. GEORGE B. GIBBONS, assisted by the REV. E. POLWHELE. The tea drinking was held in the Castlegreen at four o'clock for the children, and for the subscribers and friends at five. The day was truly delightful, and a large number of visitors ere present. The children enjoyed themselves exceedingly. The Duke and Duchess of Northumberland with their usual kindness and affability, took a very active part in supplying the children with tea and cake. The castle and grounds were looking beautiful indeed, and many enjoyed the freshness of the air and the beauty of the day. The inhabitants of this place are highly privileged with this delightful promenade, in addition to the interesting walk near the fine old church, where the prospect is exceedingly picturesque. ENTERTAINMENT We understand that the mayor and corporation of Launceston, have issued upwards of one hundred invitations to a splendid dejeuner, which is to be given on Friday (to-day) at the Subscription Rooms there, at two o'clock, p.m. NEWLYN On Tuesday last, this place was aroused at an early hour from its usual quietude, by the merry peal of the village bells. For some little time past the necessary arrangements had been made for a repetition of a ringing match, which on a previous occasion passed off very creditably to all concerned. The morning was ushered in by the enlivening strains of the "Peal of Five," occasioned by the different competing parties, being allowed a trial previous to the ringing for the prizes which commenced about eleven o'clock. There were present from various parts of the county ten sets, seven of whom entered themselves as competitors. The ringing throughout was considered by competent judges to be very good; and at its conclusion the prizes were awarded; first to Lanivet, second to St. Erme, third to St. Issey, fourth to Crantock, and the fifth to St. Kew. We are happy to add that the whole affair passed off in a quiet and satisfactory manner. GRAMPOUND Signor JACOBOWITCH gave a concert, on Saturday evening last, in the Town-Hall, here; he was assisted on the harp by his wife, who is a splendid performer on this instrument. The audience was large and respectable. The Signor puts his whole soul into the performance of his pieces, and thereby rivets the attention of his hearers, and those who had the good fortune to listen to the different pieces on Saturday will not soon forget the heart-stirring effect which they produced. HELSTON GOOSEBERRY FAIR At this fair on Monday last, there was a good supply of cattle, but business was rather dull. Fat cattle exchanged hands at two guineas per cwt. and lean at about 30s. per cwt. The horses were generally of inferior quality, and there were but few buyers. There was an unusually full attendance of sight-seers, who had flocked in from the adjacent country, and most of them appeared to enjoy themselves with such sports and amusements as are common at such times; the day having been very fine. EARLY HARVEST A fine meadow of barley belonging to MR. R. POMROY, of Penvear Gate Cottage, in the parish of Gorran, was cut on the 16th inst. It is of the black variety. HELSTON On the 17th inst., this town was visited with the heaviest showers of rain that have been remembered for many years. The streets presented the appearance of rivers and were in many places impassable. The sewers not being of sufficient size to receive such an augmentation of water, and from the immense quantity of sand and rubbish, got choked, which, acting as dams, forced the water into the houses at the bottom of Church Street, much to the alarm and inconvenience of the occupiers. What renders the occurrence more singular is, the fact of hail-stones of a very large size accompanying the rain. ANOTHER FIRE  AT CARVATH On Friday last, the inhabitants of St. Austell were aroused on again hearing the sound of the fire-bell, when it was found to be another dwelling-house on fire at Carvath. The engines were quickly on the spot, and the fire was got under before much damage was done. During the afternoon several gentlemen of the town visited the spot, as it was thought to have been the work of an incendiary, as the fire first broke out in the roof of the house. Strong suspicions rest against some parties, but sufficient evidence has not as yet been obtained to warrant their apprehension. CAUTION TO THE CHARITABLE On Thursday last week, a person called on the REV. J. DAUBUZ, of Creed, with a begging letter which has since been ascertained to be a forgery. And on Tuesday last another man called with another petition, a copy of which we subjoin. The men are of dark complexion, in height about 5 feet 6 or 8 inches, one taller than the other; one was dressed in a dark brown short cut coat, with dark "wide- awake" hat. The other wore a common hat, with dark grey shooting coat, and grey trousers. The following is a copy of the second petition: "Parish of Illogan, County of Cornwall, This is to certify that Mr. JAMES BENNETT, carpenter, of this parish, had on the 8th inst. his workshop and dwelling-house accidentally destroyed by fire, consisting of stock-in-trade, household furniture, wearing-apparel, &c., &c., to the amount of GBP220. The said Mr. James Bennett is an honest, industrious man, and has a family of five children dependent on him for support. Therefore we the undersigned do strongly recommend him to the notice of the benevolent, trusting he may in some measure retrieve his serious loss. Given under our hands, this 15th day of July, 1851. JOEL BLAMEY, GBP 1; JOHN BURGESS, GBP 1; churchwardens, J. G. WULFF, rector, GBP 2; LADY BASSET, GBP 3; C. REYNOLDS, GBP 1; REV. H. ROGERS, GBP 1; JAMES BUDGE, 10s; J.E. PIKE, 1s; MRS. LEWIS, 10s; MESSRS. BICKFORD, DAVEY, and Co., GBP 1; J. VIVIAN, 5s; Mr. and Mrs. RICHARDS, 10s; Messrs. MAGOR and DAVEY, GBP 2; J. L. PETER, 10s; J. JANE, 5s; N. NICHOLL, 5s; F. M. WILLIAMS, GBP 2; WM. HAWKE, 5s; E. T. CARLYON, 10s; Rev. W. W. HARVEY, 10s; Rev. DR. TANCOCK, 10s; Messrs. HODSON, CROWLE, and Co., 10s; W. H. B., 10s; S. JAMES, 5s; W. TWEEDY, GBP 1; R. and E. PARKYN, paid, 2s.6d; R. O JOB, 2s.6d; MISS RODD, 5s; MISS CARLYON, 5s; ROBERT MICHELL, 5s; W.B. 5s; H. PEARCE, 2s.6d; W. PADDON, 5s; J. GATLEY, 2s.6d; ROBERT HEARLE, 5s; J. ROBERTS, 5s." Many of the above signatures we have ascertained to be forgeries. We shall be glad to publish any further information on the subject, and would especially request the favour of communications from our friends at Illogan. TRURO POLICE On Friday last, JOHN BENNETTS, was committed to take his trial at the next assizes, for stealing on the 14th day of July instant, from under a box in the stable of THOMAS CLIFT, of Truro, one crown, four half-crowns, and four shillings. On Monday last, LAVINIA BERGOINE and SUSAN WILLIAMS, of Truro, were committed to the house of correction for three months' hard labour, for behaving in an indecent manner in the streets. On the same day, REBECCA ARTHUR was committed for one month's hard labour for a similar offence; and for three calendar months' hard labour for unlawfully pawning, on the 27th of June last, one silk cape, the property of ELIZABETH PIGGING, the last-named sentence to commence at the termination of the first. On the 24th instant, JOHN SYMONS was fined 5s., and 9s costs, for being drunk. DESERTION About seven weeks since a woman named MARY LEE deserted her child and left it chargeable to St. Austell parish. SAMBELL, the police officer, was dispatched in search of her, and on Monday last found her in Plymouth, cohabiting with a man called HENRY BENNETTS, a native of St. Austell, and on Tuesday they were brought back in custody of the police, and examined before the magistrates, but discharged on condition that they left the town that night and took the child with them. CORONERS' INQUESTS The following inquests have been held before Mr. HAMLEY, county coroner: At Liskeard, on the 15th inst., on a newly born female infant. It appeared that MARY HARRIS, a single woman, lived as a servant to MR. HONEY, in Liskeard, for a year and a half. For the last two months Mrs. Honey had suspected her of being with child which she did not deny. She was about to leave for that reason, and go to the Unionhouse to be confined. On the 14th she got up as usual to do her work. Her mistress coming down some time after thought she looked pale, and on asking her if anything had happened, and whether she had not had a child, after a short time she acknowledged that she had, and that the child was in the bed. Mrs. Honey sent immediately for Mr. HINGSTON, the surgeon, who with a woman named BOTTERELL, went and found the child in the bed, covered over with the bedclothes, quite dead. Mr. Hingston made a post mortem examination and said it was a full grown child; that there were no marks of violence either externally or internally, and he believed the child was born alive but had died for want of proper assistance at the time of birth. The jury returned a verdict accordingly. At Poundstock on Saturday last, on the body of MARY SMEETH. She had gone to bed in her usual health, but on her husband awaking in the morning he found her dead by his side. Verdict, visitation of God. On Monday last at Mawgan, on the body of ANN CARNE, wife of a miner. She had gone to bed as well as usual; she was taken ill during the night. Her husband called a neighbour, but she died almost immediately. Verdict, visitation of God. The following inquests have been held before Mr. HICHENS, county coroner: On the 17th inst., in the parish of Phillack, on the body of MARY MEDLYN, of the parish of Kea, who died on the 16th instant on board the steamer "BRILLIANT" of Hayle, whilst at anchor in the bay of St. Ives, and where she had only a few minutes before come to an anchor, on her voyage from Bristol. The deceased, it appeared, with her daughter, a little girl, came on board the "Brilliant" as a passenger at Pill, in the Bristol river, on the evening of Monday, the 14th, about half-past seven o'clock, as she was proceeding down the river in the course of her voyage to Hayle. In consequence of very stormy weather the steamer was brought to an anchor in Pennarth roads, about eleven o'clock that night, and remained there till about eight o'clock the following evening, and consequently did not reach St. Ives bay till about one o'clock in the afternoon of Wednesday. The poor woman complained of being unwell when she came on board, and though a deck passenger, was, through the kindness of the steward, allowed the use of a bed-place below, which she occupied during the whole time occasionally as she wished it, and was, it appeared, paid every attention to otherwise. On the arrival of the vessel at St. Ives, a messenger was sent at once on shore for a surgeon, and the attendance of Mr. YONGE was immediately procured, but though not more than twenty minutes had elapsed from the time the boat left the vessel, to her returning thereto with the surgeon, yet the deceased was a corpse before he arrived. Mr. Yonge thought she died from a disease of the heart. Verdict, natural death. On the 22nd instant at Tornawidden in the parish of Gwinear, on the body of ELIZABETH, the wife of MR. WILLIAM ROWE, who farms the estate. The deceased was about fifty-nine years of age and being apparently in perfect health, she went out as she was used to do, on Monday morning into the farmyard between six and seven o'clock to milk the cows, and was seen by one of her daughters sitting, or rather stooping under one of the cows, for she was not accustomed to sit on anything in the act of milking, and the daughter left  her there and went into the dwelling-house. She had not, however, remained there more than two minutes, when on returning to the farm yard she saw her mother on the ground close to the same cow she had before seen her milking, having apparently fallen backwards. The daughter ran to the deceased and caught her up in her arms, and calling for help, two of her brothers came to her assistance, and they together carried their mother into the dwelling-house. She was, when taken up, speechless, and apparently senseless; and after drawing her breath two or three times, expired. Verdict, natural death. Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. 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