Dear Listers I am researching Shugg's who spent time in South Africa, and am wondering if anyone can assist me. Any help or further information with any of the Shugg records would be greatly appreciated. William Bryant Shugg appears to have spent time in the Cape Town area as he was on the 1882 voter's list under the Cape Town Electoral Division. He was married to a Mary Stevens who may have died on the Cape as I've not been able to find a death in Cornwall. 2 of their children were born on the Cape, as noted in the 1891 UK Census: 1) William Stevens Shugg born c.1883 Cape Town, SA. He married Jane Quick Allen in 1905, Penzance RD. 2) Elizabeth 'Bessie' Shugg born c.1885, Cape town, SA. She married under the name Bessie and may be registered under Bessie. She married in 1906 to either Frank Ladner or William Stevens Veal, Penzance RD. Their other children were: . Mary Stevens Shugg b.1874, St Ives who married Samuel Kemp in 1897. . Eliza Ann Thomas Shugg b.1887, bapt 1890 St Ives. Unable to find a marriage or death record for her on FreeBMD. . Bryant Shugg b.1889 and bapt 1890 St Ives. Married in the USA, and lived in Houghton, Michigan. Died Michigan in 1971. A google search showed 10 records on the South African Ancestry site, and as this is the only South African connection I have, a subscription for 6 months is too expensive for me. Would anyone be able to help with these folk? Henry Rowe Shugg - Transvaal Deceased Estates Index 1855-1976 John Shugg - Cape Estates Death Notice Index 1834-1951 Margaret Shugg - Cape Estates Death Notice Index 1834-1951 William Bryant Shugg - 1882 Voter's List for the Cape. Electoral Division Cape Town William Bryant Shugg - Courts of Justice Index J. Shugg - 1899-1901 Suburban Town Guard of the Boer War John Shugg - St. John's Cape Town Marriages 1853-1925 William Shugg - 1854 & 1886 Cape Almanac (likely different William Shugg's) Many thanks, and kind regards to all, Rowena In Melbourne

Hi Jack, Here's the link to online telephone directory - there are five pages of Clifton listings in Cornwall. http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search.publisha Joanne Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Clifton" <jwcrose@bellsouth.net> To: <Cornish-Gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:12 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Clifton family of Helston Hi. Folks. I would like to know if there is anyone on this list who Can direct me to a member of the Clifton family of Helston. I have all of the information on this family . I just want to meet one of them. Thank you and peace be with all of you good people. Cousin Jack Clifton in sunny Florida ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. Folks. I would like to know if there is anyone on this list who Can direct me to a member of the Clifton family of Helston. I have all of the information on this family . I just want to meet one of them. Thank you and peace be with all of you good people.  Cousin Jack Clifton in sunny Florida

Greetings old friends! I've been busy - currently studying towards a History Degree at Murdoch University. During a recent break I made some major changes to my website. Anyone who has links to it might want to visit and update their links, see: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~chrisu/index.htm Trust all is well with all of you. Best wishes Chris Uphill mailto:uphill@multiline.com.au

(Sorry if this comes through twice, it doesn't seem to have got through first time) Further to this message it appears that Malc_Index should be malc_index so the correct address is http://cornwall-opc.org/Records/malc_index/intro.pdf Peter ********************************** Your link from the OPC Search page comes up as broken for me http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Records/parishes/Malc_Index/intro.pdf Peter -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Old Sent: Tuesday, 6 July 2010 5:40 AM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] [CORNISH- GEN]Malcolm Mc Carthy Collection final push Dear Listers, Malcolm has asked me to pass on this message. Hi list My fantastic volunteers and I are making a concerted effort to finish this ten year long project during this August I have one box, three quarters full to complete, all Bodmin documents I also have half a box of documents which have been sent out for transcribing but no transcripts have returned. If anyone has not returned a transcript or is still working on one, could they please let me know as I will soon be reallocating many of these documents to get the project finished (except those recently sent out). In the record office are 42 completed boxes. I am still in desperate need of volunteers so anyone who will help give me a push to finish this project would be a godsend. It would spread the workload considerably. Everything is done by email. Most of the work is available through the OPC site and the full index is also available on the OPC site resource page. There is also a link to the index on the Old Cornwall Society web site. Please have a look at the index, as I get far fewer enquiries for transcripts than I would like, and there is so much information in the documents that could help so many people. There is a wealth of information available free of charge. the first stage is to look at the fully searchable index and, if you get a hit, email me and I will send you the full transcript of the document Anyone interested in helping please email me off list taclowcoth@aol.comAs I say I hope, provided I get a good response, to complete by August so its not a long term commitment Could I take this opportunity to thank everyone who has helped with this project over the years With Thanks Malc in sunny Padstow Peter Relph

Your link from the OPC Search page comes up as broken for me http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Records/parishes/Malc_Index/intro.pdf Peter -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Old Sent: Tuesday, 6 July 2010 5:40 AM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] [CORNISH- GEN]Malcolm Mc Carthy Collection final push Dear Listers, Malcolm has asked me to pass on this message. Hi list My fantastic volunteers and I are making a concerted effort to finish this ten year long project during this August I have one box, three quarters full to complete, all Bodmin documents I also have half a box of documents which have been sent out for transcribing but no transcripts have returned. If anyone has not returned a transcript or is still working on one, could they please let me know as I will soon be reallocating many of these documents to get the project finished (except those recently sent out). In the record office are 42 completed boxes. I am still in desperate need of volunteers so anyone who will help give me a push to finish this project would be a godsend. It would spread the workload considerably. Everything is done by email. Most of the work is available through the OPC site and the full index is also available on the OPC site resource page. There is also a link to the index on the Old Cornwall Society web site. Please have a look at the index, as I get far fewer enquiries for transcripts than I would like, and there is so much information in the documents that could help so many people. There is a wealth of information available free of charge. the first stage is to look at the fully searchable index and, if you get a hit, email me and I will send you the full transcript of the document Anyone interested in helping please email me off list taclowcoth@aol.comAs I say I hope, provided I get a good response, to complete by August so its not a long term commitment Could I take this opportunity to thank everyone who has helped with this project over the years With Thanks Malc in sunny Padstow No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2983 - Release Date: 07/05/10 07:36:00 ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 5 SEPTEMBER 1851 LOCAL INTELLIGENCE THE LATE MR. TREMAYNE - On Saturday last, all the shops in St. Austell were closed throughout the day in respect for the late MR. TREMAYNE, of Heligan. The bells of the church were muffled and tolled as the hearse passed through the town. COOKE'S ROYAL CIRCUS - On Monday last, MR. COOKE's party gave two performances in a field near St. Austell, belonging to MR. HODGE, of the St. Austell foundry. At twelve o'clock a grand entrance into the town took place, Mr. Cooke driving sixteen horses in hand. The afternoon performance was but thinly attended, but in the evening it was crowded, and the performances gave general satisfaction. MORELAND'S THEATRE - This company performed at the Assembly-Room, Truro, on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday, the 28th ult. There was a large attendance on Monday to witness the play entitled "Valsha," or the "Slave Queen," with other entertainments. THE NAVY - MR. JOHN R. RODD, first Lieutenant of HM.S. "Britannia," son of MRS. RODD, of Mount Charles, Truro, has been promoted to the rank of Commander. Commander THOMAS FERRIS (1815) is promoted to be Captain on the reserved list. AN IMPOSTER - On Wednesday the 27th instant, a person under the assumed name of BOWDEN, who stated that he was from Roche, visited many persons in St. Stephens in Branwell, with a begging petition under the pretence that he had lost two horses, worth GBP 30, which had been poisoned out of revenge. The petition bore the signatures of several influential persons in the neighbourhood, but on being closely questioned his evasive answers excited suspicion that all was not right, and he was subsequently apprehended. On the next morning he was brought before Mr. E. COODE, jun., at St. Austell, when he confessed that the whole story was a fabrication and the petition a forgery. He stated that his real name was GEORGE SILVERTON, that his native place was Helston, and that he was by trade a printer. It appeared also from the evidence of police constable WESTLAKE, that the prisoner had been in the neighbourhood with a petition some time previously. He was committed to the house of correction at Bodmin, as a rogue and vagabond for the full period of three calendar months, with hard labour. ABSCONDING OF AN ASSISTANT OVERSEER - No little excitement has existed in Penzance for several days past, in consequence of its having been discovered that MR. JOHN TRUDGEN, the assistant overseer had absconded, leaving a considerable defalcation in his accounts. It appears that a person who wished to see him on Friday last, not finding him at home early in the morning, went to MR. J. B. READ, one of the overseers, and informed him of the fact. Mr. Read, on going up to his residence and making inquiries respecting him, was told that he had left the house on the previous morning about eleven o'clock, and had not been home since. Mr. Read, being aware that there was a defalcation in his accounts of about GBP 200 on the poor's rate, and of about GBP 50 on the lighting rate, immediately suspected that all was not right. We understand that for the poor's rate the overseers hold a bond from the Guarantee Society - for more than the amount of the defalcation. POLICEMAN OLDS, of Penzance, left the town the same day in pursuit, with the warrant in his possession for the arrest of the defaulter. Mr. Trudgen has held the office of assistant overseer for about three years, having previously held the appointment of highway collector. He was also secretary to the teetotal society, and appeared to take great interest in the promotion of temperance principles. It is supposed that he fled for Liverpool via Hayle and Bristol, and that he may have sailed at the former part for America. He is said to have been seen on board the "Brilliant" steamer dressed very smartly, and wearing green spectacles with the supposed purpose of escaping recognition. He is about 54 years of age. LISKEARD COUNTY COURT - On Tuesday last, G.G. KEKEWICH Esq. held a County Court at Liskeard, when several cases of the usual description were tried. WILLIAMS v. SNELL and SYMONS - This case excited considerable interest. The object of the plaintiff was to obtain GBP 10 damages for false imprisonment. MR. BISHOP, solicitor of Fowey, for plaintiff, stated that Williams's tenant under Snell, was in the habit of borrowing a half hundred weight of Snell for the purpose of weighing out his coal to customers, that after having been distrained for rent and turned out of his house, he still rented a stable of Snell in which this weight, unused, lay. Snell brought Symons, a constable, to get this weight, and took Williams into custody and brought him before the Mayor on a charge of felony. The Mayor, after hearing both sides, and knowing that there was ill feeling existing, dismissed the case as frivolous and ungrounded, hence the cause of action. MR. CHILDS, solicitor, Liskeard, for defendants pleaded no detention, and if detention, justification thereof. He argued that no action lay against Snell, and maintained that there was no evidence to show that the man was in custody; that he went home to fetch his wife and went voluntarily before the Mayor; and that no action lay against Symons as he simply did his duty. His Honor thought that the case did not come under his jurisdiction. If a grossly malicious prosecution had been intended by Snell, the case lay in a superior court. Judgment for defendants. FIRE - On Sunday evening last, between eight and nine o'clock, a fire was discovered in the roof of a dwelling-house on a farm called Plynt's Barn, about half a mile from Truro on the Falmouth road, and in the occupation of MR. GREEN. The fire was first discovered near the western end of the roof, and close to the chimney. The alarm being given, a large number of persons congregated on the spot, and one of the town engines and a portion of the fire-brigade were soon there, but from the want of water the engine was of no service. The only supply to be had was from a pump in the farm-yard, and this supply it was deemed proper to reserve in order to check any ignition of the corn-stacks and cattle-houses. In consequence of the dwelling house being very thickly thatched, it was a long time burning, but about half-past twelve o'clock it fell in, and soon after that all danger of the further progress of the fire seemed to have ceased. The stock and furniture, we understand, were insured. The damage cannot have been very considerable amount, as the house was a very old one. The fire has not been in any way clearly accounted for. By some it has been attributed to the chimney taking fire, whilst others suppose it to have been the work of an incendiary. MAIL COACH ACCIDENT - On Wednesday morning last, the two-horse mail from Penzance to Truro being heavily laden, it was deemed necessary to attach a leader, which was ridden by the ostler at Tyack's Hotel, Camborne. The coach proceeded until about two miles from Truro, when on descending Gloweth hill (where the drag is not used) the wheel horses came down so fast that the leader could not keep ahead, and consequently fell. The wheelers fell over the leader, and the coach was upset, precipitating the coachman and passengers into the road. The coachman, named LEVERTON, received a very severe contusion of the face, and on examination it was discovered that his leg was broken. He was brought to Truro in one of the St. Agnes vans which came by at the time, and was immediately seen at the Royal Hotel, by DR. BULLMORE, who from the nature of his wounds deemed it advisable at once to have him removed to the Royal Cornwall Infirmary. On further examination, it was discovered that he had, in addition to the injuries before-mentioned, sustained a fracture of the neck of the thigh-bone, but we hope he will do as well as the nature of the case will admit. There were five passengers on the top of the coach, MR. COCK and MR. COULSON, both of Penzance, and two or three foreigners. Fortunately they all escaped injury, with the exception of Mr. Cock, who with the fall had the bones of his nose fractured, but was immediately attended to on arriving in Truro, and was able to return to his home in the course of the day. The inside passengers were the Rev. CHARLES MOORE, of Penzance, and his family, who we are happy to say all escaped with merely a few bruises. A chaise belonging to MR. ANDREW, of the hotel, Redruth, came up at the time from Truro, and immediately returned there with the mail-bags, and the Rev. C. Moore's family. MR. PEARCE, of the Royal Hotel, Truro, dispatched carriages at once to the scene of the disaster, and the passengers who wished to proceed by the mail arrived at Truro in time to do so. The postillion who was riding the leader received an injury of the leg, but to what extent we have not heard. After the accident he was put into a van from St. Agnes going to Truro, but on meeting SPARKS's omnibus on the way to Redruth, the poor fellow requested to be taken back by it that he might go to his home at Camborne. The coach was so little damaged that it was taken to Penzance again on the same day. MINE ACCIDENT - On Friday last, as a young man called MATTHEW DANIELL was at work in the 50- fathom level to the westward, in Ding Dong mine, a quantity of 'deads' fell away and enclosed him in a small space barely sufficient to allow him to move. Immediate assistance was at hand, and in less than an hour the rubbish was removed, and Daniell taken out, strange to say, unhurt. CORONER'S INQUESTS - The following inquests have been held before MR. JOHN CARLYON, county coroner: On Friday last, at Carharrack, in the parish of Gwennap, on the body of ROBERT BARRETT, aged 21 years. The deceased was a miner, and worked at Bell and Lanarth mine. On Thursday last, he was employed at the adit, landing the water barrel, which two of his comrades were filling from the pump, about 20 fathoms below, when, by some means or other, but it is impossible to say how, as there was no one with him at the time, he fell down by their side and was killed on the spot. Verdict, accidental death. On Tuesday, at St. Agnes, on the body of JOHN COCK, aged 15 years, who was killed at Polberou Consols mine, on Monday, by his clothes getting entangled in some machinery, which he was putting to work. Verdict, Accidental death. Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

Dear Listers, Malcolm has asked me to pass on this message. Hi list My fantastic volunteers and I are making a concerted effort to finish this ten year long project during this August I have one box, three quarters full to complete, all Bodmin documents I also have half a box of documents which have been sent out for transcribing but no transcripts have returned. If anyone has not returned a transcript or is still working on one, could they please let me know as I will soon be reallocating many of these documents to get the project finished (except those recently sent out). In the record office are 42 completed boxes. I am still in desperate need of volunteers so anyone who will help give me a push to finish this project would be a godsend. It would spread the workload considerably. Everything is done by email. Most of the work is available through the OPC site and the full index is also available on the OPC site resource page. There is also a link to the index on the Old Cornwall Society web site. Please have a look at the index, as I get far fewer enquiries for transcripts than I would like, and there is so much information in the documents that could help so many people. There is a wealth of information available free of charge. the first stage is to look at the fully searchable index and, if you get a hit, email me and I will send you the full transcript of the document Anyone interested in helping please email me off list taclowcoth@aol.comAs I say I hope, provided I get a good response, to complete by August so its not a long term commitment Could I take this opportunity to thank everyone who has helped with this project over the years With Thanks Malc in sunny Padstow No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2983 - Release Date: 07/05/10 07:36:00

Hello fellow researchers, I am wondering if any one might have information or ideas for me. My Grandfather was Joseph Cory (Corey) He was born at St Cleer 14 Feb 1858, he married Hannah Maria Faull bn 3 Mar 1856 Commonmoor, St Cleer, on 10 Oct 1877 at St Cleer. Joseph, his brother Daniel and wife Isabella (Faull) came to the US indentured in 29 Oct 1888. Evidently Josephs wife Hannah stayed behind as her Apr 7 1903 obituary states " she came to America 12 years ago". According to my math she would have Immigrated 1891. I do not find her at Castle Garden. Would any one out there have other sources to check for me as to her arrival date? Any help or ideas appreciated. Bob Marhenke in Lincoln Nebraska where the crops look wonderful. ____________________________________________________________ LCD 42&#34; TV for $26.42? Macbook Pro for $91.73? Are these prices real? You WON'T Believe What We Found! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c320759be66e2a457m02duc

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER - transcribed by Julia Mosman 29 AUGUST 1851 BIRTHS At Truro, on Saturday last, the wife of E.T. CARLYON, Esq., of a daughter. At St. Mary's, Scilly, on the 20th instant, the wife of Mr. Joseph STIDIFARD, of a son; on the 21st, the wife of Mr. William DESSON, of a son; and the wife of Mr. Francis WATTS, of a daughter. At Bryner, Scilly, on the 21st instant, the wife of Mr. John WOODCOCK, of a son. At Penzance, on the 14th instant, the wife of Mr. Samuel RICHARDS, jun., shipwright, of a daughter; on the 20th, the wife of Mr. Richard COLENSO, shipwright, of a son; and the wife of Mr. J.W. PADDY, custom-house officer, of a daughter. At Penzance, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. Edmund DAVY of a son; and the wife of Mr. Martin MATHEWS, of a son. At Bone, in the parish of Madron, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Quick YEOMAN, of a daughter. At Sennen Cove, on the 19th instant, the wife of Mr. Wm. ROBERTS, of twins. At Gwinear, the wife of Mr. Thomas NOBLE, of a daughter. At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. R. E. WILLIAMS, of a son; and the wife of Mr. J.T. COCK, of the St. Ives Wesleyan day school, of a daughter. At Hayle, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. John BURT, of a daughter, since dead; and the wife of Mr. Philip GILBERT, of a daughter. At Tuckingmill, on the 14th instant, the wife of Mr. Jabez HUNTER, of a daughter. At Redruth, the wife of Mr. T. TAYLOR, draper and tailor, of a son. At Trenithick, in the parish of St. Agnes, the wife of Mr. John RICHARDS, of a son. At Tywardreath, on the 16th instant, the wife of Mr. Thomas RUNDELL, draper & c., of a daughter. At Woodlands, near Tywardreath, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. William POLKINGHORNE, of a daughter. At Lostwithiel, on the 17th instant, the wife of Mr. William BROAD, watchmaker, of a son. At Camelford, on the 21st instant, the wife of Mr. John FINNIMORE, innkeeper, of a daughter; and on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. Frederick CHENOWETH, of a son. At Stoke, on Friday last, the wife of Edward St. AUBYN, Esq., of a daughter. At Colchester, on Friday last, the wife of C.H. HAWKINS, Esq., of a daughter. At Melksham, Wilts., on Tuesday last, the wife of the Rev. Walter VERCOE, Wesleyan Minister, of a daughter. At Shelbourne House, near Limerick, on Friday last, the wife of Captain GILBERT, Royal Horse Artillery, of a daughter. MARRIAGES At Kenwyn, on the 28th instant, by the Rev. C.W. CARLYON, Rector of St. Just in Roseland, Richard BAXTER, Esq., of Lincoln's Inn, Barrister-at-law, to Octavia Mary, youngest daughter of Clement CARLYON, Esq., M.D., of Truro. At Feock, recently, Mr. Richard BARRETT, third son of Mr. John BARRETT, shoemaker &c., of Truro, to Miss Sophia BATH, of Kea. At Helston, on Sunday last, Mr. John KNEEBONE, painter, to Miss Mary PERRY. At the Registrar's Office, Penzance, on the 20th instant, Mr. Martin OATS to Miss Mary VEALE, both of Goldsithney. At Gulval, on Saturday last, Mr. John STONE to Miss Jane JEBERT. At Crowan, on the 16th instant, Mr. Henry WILLIAMS to Miss Jane RODDA. At Phillack, on the 20th instant, Mr. William ROSEVEAR, of St. Mewan, to Miss Mary BURT, of the former parish. At the Wesleyan chapel, Hayle, on Sunday last, Mr. Andrew WOOTON to Miss Mary HOSKING. At Redruth, on Wednesday last, Mr. John MAXWELL, of Penzance, to Miss PENMAN, of the former place. At Newlyn east, on Tuesday last, Mr. B. WILLIAMS, late of the Diocesan Training College, Exeter, to Sally, eldest daughter of Captain MIDDLETON, of East Wheal Rose Mine. At St. Columb Minor, on Sunday last, Mr. James BLEWETT, to Miss Peggy KNIGHT, both of Newquay. At the Wesleyan Chapel, St. Austell, on Wednesday last, the Rev. John McKENNY, Wesleyan Minister, to Jane, second daughter of Mr. John GAVED, merchant, of St. Mewan. At St. Austell, on Wednesday last, Mr. Walter HOOPER to Miss Jane ROWSE, both of Pentewan. At Charlestown, on the 21st instant, Mr. Charles HARRY to Miss Charlotte TRUSCOTT;l and on Saturday last, Mr. Richard JENNINGS to Miss Elizabeth TREVETHEN. At Tavistock, on Tuesday last, by the Rev. W. WAY, Mr. James HAMPTON, mine agent, to Mary Anne, eldest daughter of the Rev. W. HILL, Wesleyan Minister. At Cromhall, Gloucestershire, on the 21st inst., John EASTLAKE, Esq., solicitor, Plymouth, to Helen Maris, eldest daughter of G. WALLIS, Esq., M.D., of Bristol. At Littleborough, near Rochdale, ont he 19th instant, Lieut. George M.F. MOLESWORTH, R.N., third son of the Rev. J.E. N. MOLESWORTH, D.D., Vicar of Rochdale, to Sarah, daughter of the late Lawrence NEWALL, Esq., Town House, near Littleborough. DEATHS At Truro, on Monday last, after a short illness, Peggy, the beloved wife of Mr. William HODGSON, aged 72 years. Her kindness of heart, and gentleness of disposition, endeared her to all who knew her, and her memory will be long cherished by her surviving relatives and friends. At Truro, on the 21st instant, Mr. Nicholas OLVER, aged 84 years, for many of which he was a faithful servant of the late Mr. VINCENT. At Falmouth, on the 18th instant, Mr. PENNITON, aged 56 years; and on the 20th, Mr. Thomas PHILPOT, aged 25 years. At Hugh Town, Scilly, on the 19th instant, Mr. Thomas HALL, sen., aged 79 years. At Old Town, Scilly, on Friday last, Miss Catherine LEGG, aged 22 years. At Penzance, on Friday last, John BROMLEY, Esq., aged 71 years. At Penzance, on the 16th instant, William Henry, son of Mr. TREGASKIS, aged 12 years; and on Saturday last, Mr. Richard WALLIS, aged 56 years. At Newlyn west, on the 15th instant, Thomas Charles, infant son of Mr. James RICHARDS; and Lavinia Ann, infant daughter of Mr. John CURNOW. At Ludgvan Church-town, on Saturday last, Miss Mary Stevens UREN, aged 20 years. At St. Erth, on the 15th instant, Mr. William NICHOLAS, aged 65 years. At Sheffield, in the parish of Paul, on the 20th instant, Mr. Thomas HARVEY, aged 35 years. At St. Ives, on Saturday last, James WEARNE, Esq., aged 68 years; Mrs. Margaret MOLLARD, relict of the late Capt. Thomas MOLLARD, aged 36 years; Mr. Mark HOLLOW, aged 56 years; and miss Jane MACKEY, aged 50 years. At Redruth, Mrs. Kitty HARRIS, aged 60 years. At Bolingey, in the parish of Perranzabuloe, on the 17th instant, the infant son of Mr. Edward LANYON. At St. Agnes, on Friday last, Capt. James STEPHENS, late of Penhals Mines, aged 46 years; and Mrs. Jane JAMES, aged 76 years. At Probus, on the 14th instant, Mr. Walter WILLIAMS, aged 73 years. At Grampound, on Saturday last, after a long and painful affliction, Stephen Robert, youngest son of Mr. John COOKE, aged 24 years. At Veryan, on Sunday last, Mr. William DUNSTONE, aged 72 years; and on the 28th instant, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. William TUCKER. At Molingey, in the parish of St. Austell, on Monday last, Janetta, daughter of Mr. John MAY, aged 13 years. At Fowey, on the 19th instant, Emma WADE, aged 11 years. At Tintagel, Mrs. MUTTON, at an advanced age. At Barcelona, in the parish of Pelynt, on the 16th instant, the wife of Mr. William ANDREW, aged 77 years. At Callington, on Monday last, Mary, wife of Captain Thomas PENALUNA, mine agent. At Tregoodwell, near Camelford, on Sunday last, Mr. William KEAT (or KEST), blacksmith, aged 41 years. At Plymouth, on Friday last, suddenly, on board H.M. frigate "Inconstant," John RICHARDS, Esq., of Penzance, aged 40 years. At Tavistock, on the 16th instant, Mrs. CARTER, mother of Mr. CARTER, barrister of the Western Circuit and of the Devon County Sessions, aged 63 years. At Blandford, on the 14th instant, Augusta, youngest child of H.W. JOHNS, Esq., aged 22 years. Lately, at Valparaiso, by the bursting of a blood vessel, Capt. George NICKELS, late of Fowey, aged 36 years. The End Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 22 AUGUST 1851 BIRTHS At Vivian Terrace, Truro, on Saturday last, the wife of the Rev. J.T. BENNETT, of Treverbyn, of a son. At Truro, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. DOBB, of the Seven Stars Inn, of a son. At Oak Cottage, Perranwharf, on the 10th instant, the wife of J. Fincher TRIST, Esq., of a daughter. At Penryn, on the 4th instant, the wife of Mr. R. Eustice, of a son. At Lowerquarter, in the parish of Ludgvan, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. John HOSKING, of a daughter. At Kenegie, in the parish of Gulval, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. John GRIBBLE, of a daughter. At Marazion, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. B. ROWE, of a son; and on Monday, the wife of Mr. J. POLLARD, of a daughter. At Guildford, near Hayle, on the 13th instant, the wife of Mr. James RUTTER, of a daughter; and the wife of Mr. John WHITFORD, of a daughter. At Goonlaze, St. Agnes, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. Richard CHAPMAN, of a daughter. At Summercourt, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. James COMMONS, of a daughter. At the Vicarage, Mevagissey, on the 14th instant, the wife of the Rev. W.J. ALBIN, of a daughter. At St. Austell, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. Henry HIGMAN, grocer, of a son. At Budehaven, on Tuesday last, the wife of Captain W. MARTIN, of a daughter. At Stratton, on Friday last, the wife of H. KING, Esq., surgeon, of a son. At Callington, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. John G. MASON, insurance agent, of a son. At Trelaske House, on Monday last, the wife of Edward ARCHER, Esq., of a son. At Launceston, on the 8th instant, the wife of Mr. HAYMAN, draper, of a daughter. At Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, the wife of Mr. John HOSKING, late of Penzance, of a son. At Barrachan, Penningham, on the 4th instant, the wife of Mr. Andrew McFADYEAN, of Penzance, of a son. MARRIAGES At the Independent Chapel, Penzance, on the 13th instant, Mr. Peter CURNOW to Miss Honor NEKERVIS, both of St. Just. At Madron, on Friday last, Mr. W.P. MARTINS, to Miss Elizabeth Ann KITTO; and Mr. John BREWER, to Miss Elizabeth COLLICK, all of Penzance. At Phillack, on the 14th instant, Mr. John PENBERTHY to Miss Jane EDWARDS. At the Wesleyan Chapel, Hayle, on Saturday last, Mr. Gilbert BENNETTS to Miss Mary SULLIVAN. At Camborne, on the 12th instant, Mr. John LETHLEAN to Miss Jane EDDY. At the Association Chapel, Redruth, on the 12th instant, Mr. S. GOLDSWORTHY to Miss E. KNIGHT. At St. Austell, on Monday last, Mr. R.B. BARRETT, leather cutter of Truro, to Mary Ann, second daughter of Mr. C. MERIFIELD, of Towan, in the former parish. At Blisland, on the 14th instant, by the Rev. Francis W. PYE, Frederic John ROBINSON, Esq., of Bodmin, to Augusta, daughter of the Rev. F.W. PYE, Rector of Blisland. At Lanteglos by Camelford, on Monday last, Mr. James MOREHOUSE to Miss Elizabeth DAVEY. At Liskeard, on the 21st inst., by the Rev. J.F. TODD, Mr. James F. WEBBER, wine and spirit merchant, of Probus, to Elizabeth, youngest daughter of the late Mr. Thomas HENWOOD, of Polmenna. At St. Pinnock, on Monday last, Mr. John C. DAVY, of St. Columb Major, to Miss Elizabeth ROWE, of St. Pinnock. At Stoodleigh, Devon, on the 13th instant, the Rev. Robert Baker CAREW, rector of Bickleigh, to Augusta Elizabeth, youngest daughter of Thomas DANIEL, jun., Esq., of Stoodleigh. At Barnstaple, on the 12th instant, Samuel Blomefield KEKEWICH, of the Royal Newfoundland Companies, and fourth son of George KEKEWICH, Esq., of Southford, Devon, to Olivia Elizabeth, third daughter of James ELTON, Esq., of North Stoke, Oxon. At St. George's, Hanover-square, on Tuesday last, the Rev. Frederick FANE, of Henbury, Dorset, to Elizabeth, eldest daughter of the late James Peel COCKBURN, Esq., of Salcombe House, Devon. At Bristol, on the 14th instant, Mr. L. MILLETT, to Miss Eliza EDMONDS, both of Marazion. DEATHS At Truro, on the 9th instant, the wife of Mr. Richard ANDREW, tailor. At Truro, on Monday last, Mr. Charles ANEAR, hairdresser, aged 36 years. At Penryn, on the 13th instant, John REED, Esq., aged 82 years. Mr. Reed was the agent of Messrs. Bolitho and Co., and had been in their employ for seventy years. he was a leading member of the Wesleyan connexion for half a century, and was distinguished by a truly christian character and conduct. At Falmouth, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. Francis ARTHUR, aged 53 years; and the infant daughter of Mr. WILLS, shipwright; and on Wednesday, Mr. PLUMMER, aged 73 years. At Basset-place, Budock, on Sunday, Mr. John PASCOE, master R.N., aged 58 years. At Stratton-terrace, Budock, Miss Goergiana NEWPORT, sister to Mrs. CONN, aged 40 years. At Mount Zion, Falmouth, Mrs. DUCKHAM, relict of the late Mr. J. Duckham, aged 72 years. At Penzance, on the 9th instant, Mr. John LEY, aged 58 years. At Newlyn west, on the 12th instant, Mr. Philip BULLEN, aged 25 years; and on the 14th instant, Mary, daughter of Mr. John BATTEN, aged 3 years. At Chyandour, on Sunday last, the infant son of Mr. William UREN. At Lowerquarter, in the parish of Ludgvan, on the 14th instant, the infant daughter of Mr. T. THOMAS. At St. Just in Penwith, on the 13th instant, Mary, daughter of Mr. James OATS; and on Friday last, Mr. Peter CASLEY, aged 60 years. At Gears, in the parish of St. Hilary, on Tuesday last, Mr. Thomas ELLIS. At St. Ives, ont he 12th instant, on board the schooner "Admiral Rodney," Captain Richard PROCTOR, of Hartlepool. At Laity, in the parish of Lelant, on Monday last, Mrs. Jane CARBIS, aged 65 years. At Carne, in the parish of Lelant, on Tuesday last, Thomas, son of Mr. Thomas NINNIS, aged 7 years. At Hayle Foundry, on the 15th instant, Mrs. Martha VARCOE, late of Truro, aged 30 years. At Hayle, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. John PENBERTHY, aged 20 years; having only been married the preceding Thursday. At Camborne, on Friday last, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. John TANGYE, of the Unicorn Inn, aged 59 years; on Saturday, the infant child of Mr. John ELLERY, brewer; and on Tuesday, Alice, wife of Mr. R. HOCKING, aged 23 years. At Tresavean, in the parish of Gwennap, on Sunday last, Mrs. Mary MICHELL, relict of the late Capt. James MICHELL, of that place, aged 77 years. At St. Austell, on the 13th instant, Ann, the wife of Mr. Joseph MARSHALL, aged 66 years; and on the 14th, Catherine Ann, relict of the late Mr. W. KELLOW, aged 70 years. At Pentewan, on Monday last, Mr. William POTE, inn-keeper, aged 65 years. At Respryn, near Bodmin, Mr. LEWARNE, for many years innkeeper at that place, aged 60 years. At East Looe, on Wednesday last, the wife of Mr. Wm. WEST, mate of the schooner "Concord", of a son. >>THIS SEEMS TO BE A MIS-PLACED BIRTH NOTICE. At Budehaven, on Friday last, Mr. Robert WILLS, blacksmith, aged 46 years. At Woodland, int he parish of Southhill, on Saturday last, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Richard WENMOTH, farmer. At Padstow, on the 13th instant, Mrs. Mary P. WITHELL, aged 59 years. At Launceston, on Friday last, Mrs. PETHICK, aged 79 years. At Islington, London, on the 12th instant, Harriet, only daughter of R.S. TWEEDY, Esq., In London, on the 2nd instant, Robert BARCLAY, Esq., of Holloway Place, and Farrington Street, aged 67 years. At Essex, on the 11th instant, Mr. Andrew RICHARDS, formerly of Penzance, aged 42 years. At Bath, on the 14th instant, Charlotte, wife of the Rev. Henry HINXMAN, perpetual curate of St. Sampson's in this county, aged 73 years. Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 15 AUGUST 1851 BIRTHS At Penryn, on the 2nd instant, the wife of Mr. E. DOIDGE, grocer, of a daughter. At Falmouth, lately, the wife of Mr. CRW=OWHURST, mail-guard, of a daughter. At Porthleven, on the 7th instant, the wife of Mr. R. T. JAMES, grocer, of a son. At Old Town, Scilly, on the 5th instant, the wife of Mr. Hugh WATTS, of a daughter. At Penzance, the wife of Mr. Henry RICKARD, veterinary surgeon, of a daughter. At Crowlas, in the parish of Ludgvan, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Thomas WILLIAMS of a son. At Chyandour, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. W. UREN, tanner, of a son. At Hayle, the wife of Mr. John QUICK, of a son; and the wife of Mr. Elijah WILLIAMS, of a son. At Trevarrick, in the parish of Gulval, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. W. EDDY, of a daughter. At Pool, in the parish of Illogan, on the 3rd instant, the wife of Mr. A. TREGLOWN, of the Plume of Feathers Inn, of a still-born son. At Roche, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. H. BRENTON, of a daughter. At Catchfrench, near St. Germans, on the 29th ult., the wife of Mr. MENHINNICK, farmer, of a son. At Kernock, in the parish of St. Stephens by Saltash, on the 7th instant, the wife of Mr. W. HAWK, of a son. At Exeter, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. George DOWN, of a daughter. At Pontnewynydd, Monmouthshire, on the 8th instant, the wife of Mr. S. R. BOSISTO, of Helston, of a daughter. MARRIAGES At Kenwyn, on the 14th instant, by the Rev. E. HAWKINS, Edward FERRIS, Esq., to Amelia, daughter of the late R. MICHELL, jun., Esq., Truro. At the Wesleyan Chapel, Falmouth, on the 7th instant, Mr. Jonathan DREW, tailor, to Miss WOODWARD. At Helston, on Wednesday last, by the Rev. R. Gerveys GRYLLS, Vicar of Luxulyan, the Rev. Frederick Morice ADAMS, of Uffculme, Devon, to Mary Trevenen, second daughter of Glynn GRYLLS, Esq. At the Wesleyan Chapel, Helston, on the 7th instant, Mr. Richard RICKARD, of St. Agnes, to Miss Mary GILLARD, of Helston. At St. Martin in Menage, on the 7th instant, Mr. James DREW, of that parish, to Miss Elizabeth ROBERTS, of St. Keverne. At Penzance, on Tuesday last, Lieut. Edward THOMPSON, of the Bombay Army, to Miss Eliza HOSKINS, both of that place. At Paul, on Saturday last, Mr. John WALLIS to Miss Amelia HOOPER, both of Newlyn. At Wesley Rock Chapel, Madron, on Sunday last, Mr. Richard STEVENS to Miss Fanny DEVELLER. At the Wesleyan Chapel, Hayle, on Saturday last, Mr. Daniel ROBERTS, of that place, to Miss Mary Ann SCOBLE, of Sampford Spiney, Devon. At Gulval, on Saturday last, Mr. John RICHARDS, jun., to Miss Mary MORRIS, both of that parish. At St. Ives, Mr. James BOTTRELL to Miss R. WILLIAMS. At Phillack, on the 6th instant, Mr. James MARTIN to Miss Elizabeth DAVEY, both of Gwinear; and on the 7th, Mr. Richard KNEEBONE to Miss Jane PICK. At Camborne, on the 31st ult., Mr. Joseph RULE to Miss Fanny DUCKHAM; and Mr. W. GOLDSWORTHY to Miss Caroline JENKYN. At St. Columb Minor, on the 7th instant, Mr. Richard JEWEL to Miss Elizabeth KNIGHT, both of that parish. At Probus, on the 5th instant, Mr. William IVEY, of Merther, to Miss C. E. BILKEY, of the former parish. At Roche, on Saturday last, Mr. Henry BRENTON to Miss Elizabeth PEARCE. At Calstock, on Wednesday last, the Rev. Reginald HOBHOUSE, Rector of St. Ive, third son of the Right Hon. Henry HOBHOUSE, to Caroline, third surviving daughter of Sir William L. Salusbury TRELAWNY, Bart., Lord Lieutenant of this county. At Liskeard, on the 7th instant, Mr. PHILP, printer, of that place, to Miss BUTTON, of Cadduscott, in the same parish. At the Bible Christian Chapel, St. Cleer, on Sunday last, Mr. John HAINE, butcher, to Miss Amelia OLIVER, both of Liskeard. At the Bible Christian Chapel, St. Teath, on the 31st ult., Mr. William GARD, of Boscastle, to Miss Elizabeth BASTARD, of Tintagel. At Padstow, on Tuesday last, the Rev. James FISHER, Wesleyan Minister, to Miss Betsey OKE, of Padstow. At Plymouth, on the 7th instant, Mortimer John COLLIER, Esq., third son of the late John COLLIER, Esq., to Mary Elizabeth, youngest daughter of Sir William Snow HARRIS, Knight, F.R.S. At Tavistock, on the 6th instant, Mr. Michael GREENING to Miss Amy BUTTERELL, of Lamerton. At Upwood, on the 5th instant, Capt. Spencer BULLER, Bengal Army, to Laura, youngest daughter of the late Vice-Admiral Sir Richard Hussey HUSSEY, K.C.B., G.C.M.G., of Wood Walton, Huntingdonshire. At Antigua, on the 19th of June last, Samuel, son of the late Robert BAKE, Esq., of Delabole Quarry, in this county, to Anne Harriet, eldest daughter of Henry BOURNE, Esq., of Belle-vue, Antigua. DEATHS At Truro, on Sunday last, Mr. Thomas ROWE, aged 75 years. At Kerley, in the parish of Kea, on Tuesday last, suddenly, respected by all who knew him, Capt. Paul FRANCES, aged 51 years. At Mylor, on Monday last, Mr. Daniel MAY, aged 72 years; for upwards of forty of which he worked in the gardens at Enys and was much respected. At Falmouth, on the 1st instant, Mr. James ANDREW, late surveyor of shipping at that port, aged 74 years. At Falmouth, on Friday last, the wife of Captain ARTHUR, aged 40 years. At Helston, on the 5th instant, Mr. Richard ALLEN, shoemaker, aged 71 years; and on Tuesday last, the infant daughter of Mr. William CUDDY, draper. At Restadden, in the parish of Sithney, on the 7th inst., Richard, youngest son of Mr. John JACKS, aged 12 years. At Old Town, Scilly, on Saturday last, Mr. Samuel JENKINS, farmer, aged 75 years. At Penzance, on Tuesday last, Nora, infant daughter of Mr. George HEMMINGS, of the Three Tuns Hotel. At St. Just in Penwith, the wife of Mr. Noah JAMES. At Ludgvan, on Friday last, the infant son of Mr. William CURNOW. At St. Ives, the son of Mr. Henry JENNINGS, aged 4 years; and the infant son of Capt. James BOASE. At St. Ives, Miss Jane CHELLEW, of the parish of Ludgvan, aged 21 years. T Hayle, on the 5th instant, Mr. John HAMPTON, blacksmith, aged 75 years; and on Saturday last, Stephen, son of Capt. Stephen THOMAS, of Alfred Consols Mine, aged 13 years. At Camborne, on Friday last, the infant daughter of Mr. James VIVIAN, draper. At Mitchell, on Monday last, William, son of Mr. Richd. WOOLCOCK, aged 2 years. At Gorran Church-town, on the 4th instant, Loveday, relict of the late Mr. John WILLS, aged 74 years. At St. Austell, on Wednesday last, Arthur, son of Mr. John GAVED, aged 4 years. At Tredinnick, in the parish of St. Mabyn, on Sunday last, Richard Hambly ANDREW, Esq., aged 80 years. At Gormellick, in the parish of Liskeard, the wife of Mr. TOMS, of that place, aged 37 years. At Stonehouse, on Monday last, Catherine Amelia, only daughter of Mr. Joseph Harris JOSE, of the Regent Hotel, aged 4 years. At Tavistock, on the 6th instant, Mrs. Mary CROSSMAN, aged 53 years. At Exeter, on the 7th instant, Miss HORE, sister to the late John HORE, Esq., formerly chief magistrate of that city, aged 81 years. At Winterbourne, Gloucestershire, on Saturday last, Mrs. Mary TRELEAVEN, late of Truro, aged 66 years. At Burra, Adelaide, South Australia, on the 7th of April last, Thomas Pinsent BUDD, Esq., surgeon, son of the late Mr. John BUDD, of Newton Abbot. The End. Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

Hi Liz, I always check the OPC site first, there's John TURNER's, father William TURNER's parents marriage Samuel TURNER and Elizabeth HEADON is there. It's just John's parents William TURNER and Mary unknown and their family that I can't get any info on, my Phillimore's marriage CD for Stratton ends in 1812 and there's no marriage for a William TURNER to a Mary on it. I'm pretty sure John had 2 brothers, Samuel and William and if they had a sister possibly called Elizabeth. William TURNER was baptised at Stratton on 25 Dec 1792, I know he married a Mary (Someone) probably at Stratton They had a son John who's emigration record to Australia states he was born 1813 at Stratton he possibly had 2 brothers, William and Samuel and possibly a sister Elizabeth. The TURNER family seems based in the Stratton area for a few generations back It's just this family group I need to find to complete the puzzle, but they are proving very elusive Happy Days, John Griffiths Newcastle NSW -------------------------------------------------- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:32 PM To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] TURNER FAMILY from STRATTON CORNWALL > Have you checked the OPC site for births, marriages and burials? > http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ > > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Griffiths" <johnjgriffiths@bigpond.com> > To: "CORNISH-GEN" <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:51 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] TURNER FAMILY from STRATTON CORNWALL > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> I hope there may be someone out there that can assist me trying to sort >> out my maternal Great-Great-Grandparents. I been trying to climb a moss >> covered brick wall with the TURNER family for years. >> >> My G-G-Grandfather was John TURNER who according to his 1841 emigration >> record he was born c. 1813 at Stratton he was the son of William TURNER a >> Carpenter and Mary, there's no reference to either of his parents being >> deceased. John could both read and write >> >> My G-G-Grandmother was Susannah Jane LEGG born 1817, bap 5th Dec 1817 at >> Laucells daughter of James LEGG a yeoman and Ann BICKFORD, Susannah could >> only read, again no mention of her parents being deceased. >> >> They married at Poughill on 2 June 1841 and both listed their occupations >> as House Servants and they were both residing at Truscott Poughill. >> >> I think they may have had a connection (possibly working for?) with the >> CORY family at Poughill. The reason I say this is because on their >> marriage certificate one of the witnesses is John CORY. >> >> On the 9th June, 1841, just 1 week later they boarded the "William >> Turner" >> at Portsmouth London as bounty immigrants bound for Botany Bay, Sydney, >> NSW. Their bounty agent was Mr. Alexander CAMPBELL Esq. and they were >> bound to Mr. John CORY at his property "Coryvale" at Gresford, NSW. John >> CORY had been in the Military and tried to use his military career to >> gain >> a government position but with out any success. >> >> I have a 90 year old 2nd cousin that said she was told that 3 TURNER >> brothers originally came to Australia and were to meet back up in Sydney. >> John and Samuel supposedly came out as convicts, but their 3 brother >> failed to return to Sydney. She said John returned to England an fell in >> love with then married Susannah. I didn't think a convict could return to >> England other than if they were given a full pardon. (could it have been >> they knew each other before John fell fowl of the law and that John only >> returned to marry and that's why John and Susannah left England for >> Australia 1 week after they married). >> >> Another thing she has told me is that there's more than just John and >> Susannah buried on their property "Lemon Grove" at Duggan's Gully, >> Underbank, Upper Chichester, NSW. She says John's brother Samuel is also >> buried there. Also 3 of the TURNER children 2 stillborns and an infant. I >> recently found an Ancestry tree that mentioned 2 daughters both called >> Elizabeth (1st & 2nd born of their children) that don't appear in any >> records and a female born 1860, there is a daughter, Jemima born in 1860, >> but it now has me wondering if there may have been a twin that died soon >> after birth. I contacted the person that had the tree but no response >> yet, >> they hadn't logged on to their tree for 6 months. >> >> Is there anyone on the list that may be able to offer some assistance >> >> Happy Days, >> John Griffiths >> Newcastle NSW >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Liz, I always check the OPC site first, there's John TURNER's, father William TURNER's parents marriage Samuel TURNER and Elizabeth HEADON is there. It's just John's parents William TURNER and Mary unknown and their family that I can't get any info on, my Phillimore's marriage CD for Stratton ends in 1812 and there's no marriage for a William TURNER to a Mary on it. I'm pretty sure John had 2 brothers, Samuel and William and if they had a sister possibly called Elizabeth. William TURNER was baptised at Stratton on 25 Dec 1792, I know he married a Mary (Someone) probably at Stratton They had a son John who's emigration record to Australia states he was born 1813 at Stratton he possibly had 2 brothers, William and Samuel and possibly a sister Elizabeth. The TURNER family seems based in the Stratton area for a few generations back It's just this family group I need to find to complete the puzzle, but they are proving very elusive Happy Days, John Griffiths Newcastle NSW -------------------------------------------------- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:32 PM To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] TURNER FAMILY from STRATTON CORNWALL > Have you checked the OPC site for births, marriages and burials? > http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ > > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Griffiths" <johnjgriffiths@bigpond.com> > To: "CORNISH-GEN" <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:51 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] TURNER FAMILY from STRATTON CORNWALL > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> I hope there may be someone out there that can assist me trying to sort >> out my maternal Great-Great-Grandparents. I been trying to climb a moss >> covered brick wall with the TURNER family for years. >> >> My G-G-Grandfather was John TURNER who according to his 1841 emigration >> record he was born c. 1813 at Stratton he was the son of William TURNER a >> Carpenter and Mary, there's no reference to either of his parents being >> deceased. John could both read and write >> >> My G-G-Grandmother was Susannah Jane LEGG born 1817, bap 5th Dec 1817 at >> Laucells daughter of James LEGG a yeoman and Ann BICKFORD, Susannah could >> only read, again no mention of her parents being deceased. >> >> They married at Poughill on 2 June 1841 and both listed their occupations >> as House Servants and they were both residing at Truscott Poughill. >> >> I think they may have had a connection (possibly working for?) with the >> CORY family at Poughill. The reason I say this is because on their >> marriage certificate one of the witnesses is John CORY. >> >> On the 9th June, 1841, just 1 week later they boarded the "William >> Turner" >> at Portsmouth London as bounty immigrants bound for Botany Bay, Sydney, >> NSW. Their bounty agent was Mr. Alexander CAMPBELL Esq. and they were >> bound to Mr. John CORY at his property "Coryvale" at Gresford, NSW. John >> CORY had been in the Military and tried to use his military career to >> gain >> a government position but with out any success. >> >> I have a 90 year old 2nd cousin that said she was told that 3 TURNER >> brothers originally came to Australia and were to meet back up in Sydney. >> John and Samuel supposedly came out as convicts, but their 3 brother >> failed to return to Sydney. She said John returned to England an fell in >> love with then married Susannah. I didn't think a convict could return to >> England other than if they were given a full pardon. (could it have been >> they knew each other before John fell fowl of the law and that John only >> returned to marry and that's why John and Susannah left England for >> Australia 1 week after they married). >> >> Another thing she has told me is that there's more than just John and >> Susannah buried on their property "Lemon Grove" at Duggan's Gully, >> Underbank, Upper Chichester, NSW. She says John's brother Samuel is also >> buried there. Also 3 of the TURNER children 2 stillborns and an infant. I >> recently found an Ancestry tree that mentioned 2 daughters both called >> Elizabeth (1st & 2nd born of their children) that don't appear in any >> records and a female born 1860, there is a daughter, Jemima born in 1860, >> but it now has me wondering if there may have been a twin that died soon >> after birth. I contacted the person that had the tree but no response >> yet, >> they hadn't logged on to their tree for 6 months. >> >> Is there anyone on the list that may be able to offer some assistance >> >> Happy Days, >> John Griffiths >> Newcastle NSW >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers, I hope there may be someone out there that can assist me trying to sort out my maternal Great-Great-Grandparents. I been trying to climb a moss covered brick wall with the TURNER family for years. My G-G-Grandfather was John TURNER who according to his 1841 emigration record he was born c. 1813 at Stratton he was the son of William TURNER a Carpenter and Mary, there's no reference to either of his parents being deceased. John could both read and write My G-G-Grandmother was Susannah Jane LEGG born 1817, bap 5th Dec 1817 at Laucells daughter of James LEGG a yeoman and Ann BICKFORD, Susannah could only read, again no mention of her parents being deceased. They married at Poughill on 2 June 1841 and both listed their occupations as House Servants and they were both residing at Truscott Poughill. I think they may have had a connection (possibly working for?) with the CORY family at Poughill. The reason I say this is because on their marriage certificate one of the witnesses is John CORY. On the 9th June, 1841, just 1 week later they boarded the "William Turner" at Portsmouth London as bounty immigrants bound for Botany Bay, Sydney, NSW. Their bounty agent was Mr. Alexander CAMPBELL Esq. and they were bound to Mr. John CORY at his property "Coryvale" at Gresford, NSW. John CORY had been in the Military and tried to use his military career to gain a government position but with out any success. I have a 90 year old 2nd cousin that said she was told that 3 TURNER brothers originally came to Australia and were to meet back up in Sydney. John and Samuel supposedly came out as convicts, but their 3 brother failed to return to Sydney. She said John returned to England an fell in love with then married Susannah. I didn't think a convict could return to England other than if they were given a full pardon. (could it have been they knew each other before John fell fowl of the law and that John only returned to marry and that's why John and Susannah left England for Australia 1 week after they married). Another thing she has told me is that there's more than just John and Susannah buried on their property "Lemon Grove" at Duggan's Gully, Underbank, Upper Chichester, NSW. She says John's brother Samuel is also buried there. Also 3 of the TURNER children 2 stillborns and an infant. I recently found an Ancestry tree that mentioned 2 daughters both called Elizabeth (1st & 2nd born of their children) that don't appear in any records and a female born 1860, there is a daughter, Jemima born in 1860, but it now has me wondering if there may have been a twin that died soon after birth. I contacted the person that had the tree but no response yet, they hadn't logged on to their tree for 6 months. Is there anyone on the list that may be able to offer some assistance Happy Days, John Griffiths Newcastle NSW

Have you checked the OPC site for births, marriages and burials? http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Griffiths" <johnjgriffiths@bigpond.com> To: "CORNISH-GEN" <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:51 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] TURNER FAMILY from STRATTON CORNWALL > Hi Listers, > > I hope there may be someone out there that can assist me trying to sort > out my maternal Great-Great-Grandparents. I been trying to climb a moss > covered brick wall with the TURNER family for years. > > My G-G-Grandfather was John TURNER who according to his 1841 emigration > record he was born c. 1813 at Stratton he was the son of William TURNER a > Carpenter and Mary, there's no reference to either of his parents being > deceased. John could both read and write > > My G-G-Grandmother was Susannah Jane LEGG born 1817, bap 5th Dec 1817 at > Laucells daughter of James LEGG a yeoman and Ann BICKFORD, Susannah could > only read, again no mention of her parents being deceased. > > They married at Poughill on 2 June 1841 and both listed their occupations > as House Servants and they were both residing at Truscott Poughill. > > I think they may have had a connection (possibly working for?) with the > CORY family at Poughill. The reason I say this is because on their > marriage certificate one of the witnesses is John CORY. > > On the 9th June, 1841, just 1 week later they boarded the "William Turner" > at Portsmouth London as bounty immigrants bound for Botany Bay, Sydney, > NSW. Their bounty agent was Mr. Alexander CAMPBELL Esq. and they were > bound to Mr. John CORY at his property "Coryvale" at Gresford, NSW. John > CORY had been in the Military and tried to use his military career to gain > a government position but with out any success. > > I have a 90 year old 2nd cousin that said she was told that 3 TURNER > brothers originally came to Australia and were to meet back up in Sydney. > John and Samuel supposedly came out as convicts, but their 3 brother > failed to return to Sydney. She said John returned to England an fell in > love with then married Susannah. I didn't think a convict could return to > England other than if they were given a full pardon. (could it have been > they knew each other before John fell fowl of the law and that John only > returned to marry and that's why John and Susannah left England for > Australia 1 week after they married). > > Another thing she has told me is that there's more than just John and > Susannah buried on their property "Lemon Grove" at Duggan's Gully, > Underbank, Upper Chichester, NSW. She says John's brother Samuel is also > buried there. Also 3 of the TURNER children 2 stillborns and an infant. I > recently found an Ancestry tree that mentioned 2 daughters both called > Elizabeth (1st & 2nd born of their children) that don't appear in any > records and a female born 1860, there is a daughter, Jemima born in 1860, > but it now has me wondering if there may have been a twin that died soon > after birth. I contacted the person that had the tree but no response yet, > they hadn't logged on to their tree for 6 months. > > Is there anyone on the list that may be able to offer some assistance > > Happy Days, > John Griffiths > Newcastle NSW > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Thursday 01 July 2010 08:51:29 Eugene & Deirdre Blunt wrote: > Hi Alan, > > You have a good point there, and I hadn't actually thought of it. But I do > recall on numerous occasions whilst going through microfilms that the same > name often appeared as a witness to numerous marriages. This is usually > when that person is a warden of the church or something similar. > Quite often the parish clerk was one of the witnesses. After all he often recorded the marriage in the register rather than the vicar himself. There are also "professional" witnesses who may not have been paid but were probably living next door and could be grabbed at short notice. Note that non-family witnesses would be literate and that restricts the choice in many rural parishes. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

Hi Alan, You have a good point there, and I hadn't actually thought of it. But I do recall on numerous occasions whilst going through microfilms that the same name often appeared as a witness to numerous marriages. This is usually when that person is a warden of the church or something similar. I will keep it in mind. Thanks, Deirdre Blunt -------Original Message------- From: Alan Nelson Date: 06/30/10 16:21:04 To: deird@optusnet.com.au Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Re George THOMAS Witnesses names should be treated with a degree of caution as not every family could write and usually witnesses were those who could write All you have to do is to check marriages in the same era to see how often names crop up and they cannot be related to everyone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene & Deirdre Blunt" <> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:47 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Re George THOMAS > > I'm trying to find information on George Thomas, of Truro. His daughter, > Ann Thomas, married Captain Thomas Le Breton in 1806 in Truro. Witnesses > at > the marriage were Mary A Thomas, E Thomas and a P Thomas. >

I'm trying to find information on George Thomas, of Truro. His daughter, Ann Thomas, married Captain Thomas Le Breton in 1806 in Truro. Witnesses at the marriage were Mary A Thomas, E Thomas and a P Thomas. I've checked the IGI and Cornish opc bmd's. It appears that Ann was born 15 1.1785 and bapt in Truro, next was an Elizabeth, bapt 18.11.1786 Truro, Mary Andrews bapt 2.8.1787 and Elizabeth, bapt 7.5.1789. Mary and the second child named Elizabeth were probably two of the witnesses at Ann's marriage. The National Archives have several items against the name of George Thomas. One is the Will of George Thomas, Gent, Truro dated 1825. Another is for the Will of George Thomas, Gent, Truro dated 1844 (thought to be a son). A George Thomas was a Mayor of Truro for a couple of years, and it is thought he could well be the father of Ann Thomas. The microfilm for St Mary's Truro that I went through some years ago didn't show anything for a George Thomas. Any help would be appreciated. Deirdre Blunt

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 8 AUGUST 1851 BIRTHS At Truro, on the 25th ult., the wife of Mr. BAGNALL, of a daughter. At Wellington Terrace, Falmouth, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. William WARN, of a son. At Bosahan, near Helston, on Friday last, the wife of Edwin LEY, Esq., of a son. At Penzance, on the 28th ult., the wife of Mr. A. VINGOE, of a son. At Newlyn west, on Firday last, the wife of Mr. Kelynack, of a son. At Ricviere, Hayle, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Wm. TREWHELLA, of a son. At Gwinear, the wife of Mr. James HOSKING, of a son; and the wife of Mr. John ARTHUR, of a son. At Camborne, the wife of Mr. E. NEWTON, mathematical instrument maker, of a son. At Chacewater, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. T. ROWE, builder, of a daughter. At Summercourt, on the 31st ult., the wife of Mr. Thomas LIDDICOAT, of a son. At Roscarrock, in the parish of Endellion, on the 31st ult., the wife of Mark GUY, jun. Esq., of a daughter. At Prideaux Place, Padstow, on the 24th ult., the Hon. Mrs. BRUNE, wife of C.G. BRUNE, Esq., of a daughter. At Bridge, near Boscastle, the wife of Mr. TOMS, of a son. At St. Stephens by Launceston, on the 30th ult., the wife of Mr. G.M. GIFFORD, of a daughter. At Plymouth, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. James C. SKARDON, of a son. MARRIAGES At Kea, on the 27th ult., Mr. BRAY, of Blackwater, to Eliza, fifth daughter of Mr. John MOYLE, of Chacewater. At Falmouth, on the 31st ult., Mr. MAY to Mrs. PRICE, of the Shipwrights' Arms. At St. Just in Penwith, on the 30th ult., Mr. Simon HOCKING to Miss Mary OATS, both of that place. At Madron, on Saturday last, Mr. Henry ARTHUR to Miss Elizabeth TONKIN; and Mr. Martin ROWE to Miss Emma Jane FRENCH, all of Penzance. At Newlyn east, on the 26th ult., Mr. J.W. WILLS, merchant, of Wadebridge, to Miss TREMAIN, of Trerice House. At St. Columb Minor, on Saturday last, Mr. William SHEPHARD, to Miss Johannah MOFFATT, both of that parish. At St. Enoder, on the 31st ult., Mr. John HARDING, of Trenithon, to Mrs. PRISK, of the former parish. At the Wesleyan Chapel, St. Austell, on the 31st ult., Mr. Robert JAMES to Miss Jane BUZZA; and Mr. William RABLIN to Miss Jane TONKIN, all of Tywardreath. At St. Austell, on Sunday last, Mr. James MANUEL to Miss NETTLE. At Tywardreath, on Tuesday last, Mr. Stephen BUZZA, to Elizabeth, third daughter of Mr. G. BEER. At Plymouth, on Tuesday last, Mr. henry C. MAYOW, of Berkshire, to Maria Jenifer, youngest daughter of William Hugh CROKER Esq., late solicitor of Tavistock. DEATHS At Truro, on the 24th ult., Alfred James, son of the Rev. E. TIPPETT, aged 4 years. At newham, near Truro, on Tuesday last, after a few hours' illness, Octavious, third son of Mr. henry WILLIAMS, aged 3 years. At Penryn, on Friday last, Mr. T. RAPSON, aged 76 years. At Helston, on the 30th ult., the wife of Mr. John RICHARDS, shoemaker, aged 77 years. At the Turk's Head Inn, Penzance, on the 30th ult., the residence of her daughter Mrs. Sarah JUST, Mrs. Elizabeth HARREP, aged 93 years; and Jane, widow of the late Mr. John CEELY, aged 40 years. At St. Just in Penwith, on the 24th ult., the infant daughter of Mr. Charles LEATHEN; and the infant daughter of Mr. James AKERMAN, chemist and druggist. At Cockwells, in the parish of Ludgvan, Miss Martha JENNINGS, aged 35 years. At Nancledra High Lane, in the parish of Ludgvan, on the 24th ult., the infant daughter of Mrs. Mary EDWARDS. At St. Erth, on the 28th ult., Mrs. Ann TEAGUE, aged 71 years. At Crowan, on the 27th ult., Mrs. Mary ROSEWALL, aged 76 years. At Hayle, on the 30th ult., the infant son of Capt. John TRENERY, of the "Marys"; and Mr. Henry PENPRASE, aged 20 years. At Gwinear, on the 29th ult., Mrs. Ann KEMPE, aged 60 years. At Redruth, on Sunday last, Elizabeth, relict of the late Mr. William SYMONDS, of that place, at an advanced age. At Redruth, on Sunday last, Elizabeth, relict of the late Mr. John CHESTER, aged 74 years. At Newquay, on Friday last, Mr. Richard BILLING, aged 75 years. At Probus, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. John TREWEEK, of Tresawle, aged 55 years. At Summercourt, on the 28th ult., Eliza Ann, daughter of Mr. John BETTISON, miller, aged 6 years. At Bodmin, on Friday last, after a short illness, Mr. Thos. ELLICOTT, aged 21 years. At Bodmin, on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. TONKIN, ironmonger &c., aged 70 years. At Trewarmet, in the parish of Tintagel, last week, Mr. Richard MAY, aged 75 years. At Stratton, on the 29th ult., Maria, daughter of Mr. W. CORY, builder, aged 1 years. At Trevalga House, near Stratton, on Friday last, James LOWE, Esq., aged 67 years. At Wadebridge, on Sunday last, Miss Elizabeth VEALE, postmistress; and on Tuesday, Mrs. Susannah GILL, aged 81 years. At Tregunna, in the parish of St. Breock, on Tuesday last, Mr. John HAWKEY, farmer, aged 34 years. At Launceston, Henry, son of Mr. C. BOUNSALL, glazier. At Stourscombe, near Launceston, Capt. BURGESS, R.N., aged 70 years. At Devonport, on Sunday last, after a long and severe illness, Cornelius W. FOX, Esq., wine merchant, formerly of Truro, aged 39 years. At Buckfastleigh, on the 26th ult., Mr. Thomas FURNEAUX, woollen manufacturer, aged 48 years. At Collytown Beer, on the 26th ult., Joanna, relict of the late Mr. Robert NEWBERRY, of Five Acres, Lifton, Devon, aged 84 years. At 8 Holloway Place, Holloway, on Saturday last, Robert BARCLAY, Esq., aged 67 years. Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org