West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. transcribed by Bern Currie 5th September 1851 Births At Truro, on the 25th ult., the wife of Mr. Henry ALLEN, tailor, of a daughter; on the 26th, the wife of Mr. J. KNUCKEY, jun. of a daughter; and on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. PENNA, tailor, of a son. At Laurel Cottage, in the parish of Feock, the wife of Mr. BURRELL, of a son. At Gyllinvase Cottage, near Falmouth, on the 26th ult., the wife of Capt. GROUBE, H.E.I.C.S., of a son. At Trerose, in the parish of Mawnan, the wife of Mr. William LAITY, of a son. At Penzance, on the 28th ult., the wife of Mr. Edward BERRIMAN, of a son; the wife of Mr. FORD, of a daughter; and on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Henry BAYNARD, painter, of a son. At Little Trewidden, in the parish of Madron, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. William RUNNALLS, of a daughter. At Madron Church-town, on the 28th ult., the wife of Mr. Nicholas LOBB, of a daughter. At Carnglaze, in the parish of St. Just in Penwith, on the 28th ult., the wife of Mr. Daniel WILLIAMS, of a son. At Marazion, on the 28th ult., the wife of Mr. William DAVEY, innkeeper, of a son. At Hayle, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. Richard RODDA, of a daughter. At Tregajorran, near Pool, on the 21st ult., the wife of Mr. James THOMAS, of a daughter. At Newquay, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. William CARTER, of a son. At Tredinnick, in the parish of Veryan, on the 19th ult., the wife of Mr. William CHAPMAN, of a son. At Treloan, in the parish of Gerrans, on the 22nd ult., the wife of Mr. Thomas JONES, of a daughter. At Trenbear, in the parish of St. Austell, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. E. STEPHENS, of a daughter. At Roche, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. Thos. PARKYN, of a daughter. At Charlestown, on the 25th ult., the wife of Mr. William ROWSE, smith, of a son; and on Tuesday last, the wife of Mr. William PIDWELL, cooper, of a daughter. At Pentireglaze, in the parish of St. Miniver, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. James ROWE, farmer, of a daughter. At Albiston, in the parish of Calstock, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. John ADAMS, engineer, of a daughter. At Lanstephen Cottage, near Saltash, on the 25th ult., the wife of Joseph MARTIN Esq., R.N. of twins. At Devonport, on the 23rd ult., the wife of Mr. Herbert W. WILLING, draper, of a daughter. At the Manor House, North Huish, on the 26th ult., the wife of Thomas KING, Esq., of a daughter. At Leawood, on Saturday last, the wife of Shilson Calmady HAMLYN, Esq., of a daughter. Marriages At St. Mary's, Truro, on Sunday last, Nicholas, only son of the late Capt. Nicholas NICHOLLS, of Cusgarne, in the parish of Gwennap, to Mary Vercoe, eldest daughter of Mr. John EDWARDS, of the Victoria Bazaar, Truro. At Helson, on Wednesday last, Mr. Robert STEPHENS, carpenter, to Miss BANFIELD, both of that town. At penzance, on the 23rd ult., Mr. CARE to Miss Susan JOYCE, of that place. At Madron, on Saturday last, Mr. R.T. WOPOLCOCK, to Miss Elizabeth Jane ANGWIN; and on Tuesday, Mr. William SURRY, to Miss Mary ann HILL, all of Penzance. At Ludgvan, on Saturday last, Mr. Edward BERRIMAN to Miss Mary KNEEBONE, both of that parish; and Mr. John SIMS of Gulval, to Miss Jane Leggo THOMAS, of Ludgvan. At Gulval, on the 28th ult., Capt, James WILLIAMS, of the brigantine "Jane Cummin", of Falmouth Mary, third daughter o the late Mr. Christopher MARTIN, of Towednack. At St. Ives, on the 24th ult., Mr. Samuel WILLIAMS to Miss Ann WILLIAMS; and on the 26th, Mr. James NINNIS to Miss Clara POLMEAR. At the Weslyan chapel, Hayle, on Sunday last, Mr. William JAMES to Miss Bridget HEATHER. At Illogan, Mr. Joseph IVEY to Miss Susan VINCENT, both of that parish. At Pool, in the parish of Illogan, Mr. John EATHORNE to Miss BURRELL, both of that place. At St. Austell, on Wednesday last, Mr. Gregory SPEAR to Miss Mary BORROWS. At Fowey, Mr. George BEER, parish clerk of Tywardreath, to Miss Susanna TOOL, late of the same place. At Lansallos, on the 24th ult., Mr. Jonathon DOWN, of Calstock, to Miss Mary PEARSE, of Trenewan, in the former parish. At the Weslyan Chapel, Liskeard, on the 23rd ult., Mr. William STEPHENS to Miss Sarah PHILIP, both of St. Veep. At the Friends' meeting-house, Liskeard, on the 29th ult., Mr. William SOUTHERAL, druggist, of Birmingham, to Eliza, third daughter of John ALLEN Esq., of the former place. At the Registrar's office, Devonport, on Sunday last, Mr. Philip DUNN, custom- house officer, to Maria, youngest daughter of the late Mr. William HODGE, coast waiter at Pentewan, in this county, and relict of Mr. John NANCHOLAS, of Charlestown. At east Stonehouse, on Wednesday last, Mr. Frederick Samuel LANG, of Bristol, to Miss Catherine Braddon BIRKHEAD, youngest daughter of the late Mr. George BIRKHEAD, of Devonport. At Poole, on the 14th ult., Mr. John B. KINGSBURY, grocer, of Ringwood, Hants, to Eliza, daughter of the late Lieut. James ALLEN, R.N. of Torpoint. At Norwood, on the 28th ult., Mr. W.C. BYERS, of the ordnance Office, London, to Alice Catherine, only daughter of the late Christopher BAXTER, Esq., of Southall. Deaths At the Railway Station, Dawlish, on the 27th ult., suddenly, John Hearle TREMAYNE, Esq., of Heligan, in this county, and M.P. for Cornwall from 1807 to 1826, aged 71 years. At Truro, on Wednesday last, the infant son of Mr. Abraham STEPHENS. At Falmouth, on the 28th ult., of consumption, Elizabeth Frances, youngest daughter and only surviving child of the late Rev. Lewis MATHIAS, of that town, aged 17 years, having followed her elder sister to the grave within the short period of four months. At Penzance, on the 26th ult., the infant son of Mr. COLENSO. At Newlyn west, on the 28th ult., Emily, daughter of Mr. Samuel KITTO, aged 3 years. At Hea Moor, in the parish of Madron, the wife of Mr. James TREBILCOCK, aged 31 years. At Jamaica Place, in the parish of Madron, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. James MADDERN, carpenter, aged 42 years. At Ludgvan, on Sunday last, the infant daughter of Mr. John CURNOW; and the only son of Mr. Zacariah WILLIAMS, aged 4 years. At Hayle, on Friday last, Mr. John CURTIS, aged 69 years. At Gwithian, on Saturday last, Mr. John RICHARDS, Aged 50 years. At Walls, in the parish of Gwinear, on Saturday last, Mr. William LANYON, aged 71 years. At Gwinear, on Tuesday last, Mr. Samuel BARONS, aged 72 years. At Camborne, on Saturday last, Mrs. MARTIN, relict of Mr. John MARTIN, of Carnhall Green, in the parish of Gwinear, aged 71 years. At Trenethan, in the parish of Illogan, the infant child of Mr. Edward TREWHELLA. At Tresowsa, in the parish of Ladock, on the 27th ult., William, son of Mr. BENNY, aged 10 years. At Summercourt, on Tuesday last, Mrs. JOSE, relict of the late Mr. Arthur JOSE, of that place, aged 70 years. At Treganetha, in the parish of St. Wenn, on the 29th ult., Mr. Henry BRENTON, aged 85 years. At Quarry Park, near Grampound, on Monday last, after a few days' illness, Edmund Hearle, second son of Mr. Matthew ROBERTS, aged 21 years. At St. Austell, on the 28th ult., Mr. Stephen SINCOCK; and on Monday last, Samuel, eldest son of Mr. William CLEMES, hatter, a member of the Society of Friends, aged 29 years. At Roche, on the 28th ult., Mr. William PHILLIPS, aged 85 years. At St. Dennis, on Tuesday last, Mr. Richard YELLAND, clay merchant, aged 66 years. At Fowey, lately, Mr. Joseph GATTY, aged 84 years. At Bodmin, on the 28th ult., Mr. Philip BONE, of Truro, aged 45 years. At St. Levan, on the 23rd ult., Mrs. MANN, of Mousehole, aged 73 years. At Torpoint, on the 26th ult., Lieut. R.K. WHARTON, aged 37 years. At Torpoint, on the 9th ult., Elizabeth, widow of the late Rev. W. GABRIEL, Baptist Minister, aged 87 years; and on the 26th, Mary, widow of the late Mr. Alexander ROWE, aged 73 years. At Plymouth, on the 21st ult., Dennis KINGDON Esq., of Northpetherwin House, near Launceston, aged 72 years. He was formerly Major of the 80th regiment of Foot, in which he served for twenty years in India. At Dartmoor, on the 27th ult., Mr. Thomas UREN, formerly of Truro, aged 46 years. In London, on Monday last, sincerely regretted by a large circle of friends, Mr. John KERBY, auctioneer, and for many years one of the town council of Helston, aged 61 years. At Dedham, Essex, on the 17th ult., Mrs. Matilda RICHARDS, relict of the late Mr. John RICHARDS, of Truro, and mother of Mr. RICHARDS, of Trehaverne, near Truro, aged 81 years. At Manchester, on the 21st ult., Mary, relict of Capt. Henry WILLIAMS, of Gwennap, in this county, aged 62 years. At Porth-y-Felin, near Holyhead, on Friday last, Lewis, second son of Mr. J.M. RENDEL, C.B., of Great George-street, Westminster, aged 21 years. Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 19 SEPTEMBER 1851 MASONIC FESTIVAL OF THE PROVINCE OF CORNWALL The annual meeting of the freemasons of this Province was held at Redruth on Tuesday last, in honour of the revival in that town of the Druids' Lodge of "Love and Liberality." The weather was extremely auspicious, and as the time approached for the Brethren to walk in procession, an immense concourse of people congregated in the town. There was a goodly attendance of the brethren from different parts of the county. They first assembled at the Druids' Lodge-room at soon after eleven o'clock, the Director of Ceremonies, Brother HEARD, marshaled the procession, the Brethren, about eighty in number, appearing in full Masonic costume, and wearing the different orders and jewels to which they were entitled. The whole route of the procession, from the Lodge- room to the parish church of Redruth, was excessively crowded with spectators. The Brethren proceeded to church in [an impressive ceremonial assemblage, with all Masonic symbols carried separately.] The Lodge then went in procession to the banquet, which was served in the Town Hall. This is a very fine and spacious hall which has been erected at Redruth, we understand, by the public spirit of one of the inhabitants, the town having been previously unprovided with any such convenience for public accommodation. It was very suitable for this Masonic banquet; there were on every side decorations of evergreens and flowers, and a display of the flags of all nations, symbolical of Masonic universality, the whole having an extremely beautiful and imposing effect. The banquet was served by MR. ANDREW, and laid out in a most elegant and superior style; it comprised every delicacy of the season, and the dessert and wines left nothing for the most fastidious to desire. It should also be added that the Provincial Grand Master, SIR CHARLES LEMON, sent a noble buck for the occasion, and a handsome dessert. Between seventy and eighty of the brethren sat down to dinner, the D.P.G.M. Brother ELLIS presiding, having Brother BOASE for his Senior Warden, and Brother CLARKE acting as Junior Warden for Brother CLYMO, who was prevented by illness from attending. On the removal of the cloth, the toast of "The Queen" was drunk with nine times nine, the band playing the National Anthem. The toast of "The Duke of Cornwall, Prince Albert, and the Royal Family," was also drunk. In giving the toast of "The Queen," the D.P.G.M. remarked that it was hardly necessary to ask any body of Englishmen to drink that toast, much less any body of Freemasons, for they would all recollect that apart from her position as the sovereign of these realms, she was the daughter of a Brother Mason, the Duke of Kent. After this toast the Director of Ceremonies and the Stewards admitted the ladies, who had shown the interest they felt in the occasion by very numerous applications for tickets of admission. They were received with loud applause by the Brethren, and the room being speedily filled, as many as possible were accommodated with seats. They were invited by the brethren to partake of wine and dessert, and shortly afterwards the D.P.G. M. called on the brethren to fill their glasses whilst he proposed to them, amidst loud cheering, "The health of the Ladies," then proceeded at some length to pass a high eulogium on the virtues and beauties of the ladies. Brother BOASE, of Penzance, humouously begged to be considered a woman for two or three minutes, then returned thanks for the ladies. After this, Signor Jacobowitch sang in his peculiar style, accompanied by Madame Jacobowitch on the harp, and Von HARTMAN on the violin. The D.P.G.M. thanked the Signor, and also the ladies for their attendance, but said they had Masonic business to transact, and must now request all but brethren to retire. The ladies having left the room, the Lodge was regularly tyled, and the following Masonic toasts were drunk - [the Grand master of England, the Officers, another to Sir Charles Lemon, and several more - including the ladies yet again. The meeting was then adjourned, and everyone departed with a feeling of goodwill.] TRURO SCHOOL - Recitations of the pupils took place at the school-room, for medals given by the Earl of Falmouth, and prizes offered by the head Master, the REV. A. J. W. MORRISON. The umpires for awarding the medals were MR. P.P. SMITH, DR. PADDON, the Chaplain, (REV. G. L. CHURCH) and the Mayor of Truro, MR. BASSETT. [All prizes listed were only shown as last name, then place in the order, ie., Wynn, first, Bryant, second.] WINN was commended for the accuracy with which he delivered seventy stanzas from Macaulay's "Lays of Ancient Rome," but having gained a prize last year in this class, he was precluded from obtaining one on this occasion. [The prizes for the classics were books, and the examiner, REV. JOHN HARDIE, of Kea, told the boys they must attain a higher level next year if they wished to be rewarded. They were also examined in English Literature, Mathematics, and French.] WEBBER also received a book for encouragement, and LORY for diligence and good behavior, and for on two occasions reciting well. In the afternoon, at four o'clock, the old pupils and friends of the school dined with the Head Master at Pearce's Royal Hotel. THE DISTINS' CONCERT - These celebrated artistes performed at the Assembly-Room, Truro, on Thursday evening the 11th instant. The concert was partly instrumental and partly vocal, and the music of a high class, consisting principally of selections from favourite operas. The improved sax-horns on which the Messrs. DISTIN perform are splendid instruments, and their execution on them may be pronounced perfect, and leaving nothing to be desired. The quartette from "Belisario" with which the concert opened, was performed by Mr. Distin and his three sons; the grand fantasia commencing the second part of the concert, were greatly applauded, and occasionally an encore was kindly responded to by the performers. A selection from Donizetti was performed on the new patent euphonic horns with splendid effect. .. The vocalists were Mrs. Theodore Distin, and the Messrs. Distin, excepting Mr. Distin, sen. Several of the vocal pieces were favourably received, and they agreeably varied the entertainment. ... Respecting the excellence of their performance we cannot do better than to quote the opinion of the celebrated composer Meyerbeer, given when they performed at Berlin in 1846: "Never have I heard wind instruments played with so much splendor, purity, and precision; to add to this, that nothing equals the grandeur of their style." PENZANCE VESTRY MEETING - On Friday evening last, a vestry was held in the Guildhall, Penzance, for recommending to the Guardians a fit and proper person to make and collect the poor-rtes and to fill the office of assistant overseer, &c. After some discussion several candidates were proposed, and the Chairman declared that the votes of the meeting had fallen on MR. CHARLES MATTHEW VIBERT. MESSRS. R. HOSKING, M. COLLIVER, and J.B. COULSON were nominated a committee to assist the overseers in examining the accounts of the late overseer. NEW PATENT - In the list of new patents lately granted, we observe the name of MR. DRAKE, of St. Austell, for improvements in constructing ships, and other vessels, and in propelling ships or other vessels. FOWEY PASSAGE - For some time past, the inhabitants of Fowey and neighbourhood have enjoyed the convenience of a quick transit to Plymouth by CRART's omnibus, superseding the old van; and the proprietor, for the purpose of dispatch, has employed a boat to take the goods from Bodinnick slip to Fowey quay, a great saving of time when compared with landing at the ferry slip at the Fowey side. A dispute has existed between the occupier of the Fowey ferry and Crart, in consequence of demanding a toll for using the slip, which is the terminus of the Queen's highway on that side of the river. On Thursday the 11th instant, on Mr. Crart's arrival at Bodinnick, he was met by a solicitor and three constables, who forbade him to pass without paying toll, which he refused. The gate, which is at the head of the slip, was chained. Crart unhung the obstacle, and passed over, being advised that such a barrier was a public nuisance; he used his boat as before, and here the matter rests for the present. There is no table of tolls fixed up at the ferry-house, and it is unknown that any Act of Parliament exists enforcing payment, or whether it rests on mere invasion of public right. The omnibus is the means of bringing custom to the ferry house, and all parties are benefited by the convenience of a quick transit to Plymouth; and Crart insists that not employing the ferry boat, but paying a man of his own, no sum can be legally demanded. VESSEL FOUNDERED - The schooner "Friends," of St. Ives, STEVENS master, with coals from Wales for Penzance, struck on the Rundle Stone Rock, at eight o'clock on Wednesday evening last, and went down in deep water immediately after. The master and crew, four in number, escaped in the boat, but with loss of all their clothes &c. The wind was easterly when the accident happened, and the weather thick and hazy. LAUNCESTON COUNTY COURT - This court was held before MR. W. M. PRAED, on Wednesday last, there were thirty-five cases entered for trial. LAURENCE ROWE v JOHN UGLOW: Plaintiff is a tailor of Launceston, and a jockey; defendant is proprietor of the mail coach between Launceston and Plymouth, also the owner of a racing mare. Defendant employed plaintiff to ride his mare at the last Plymouth races; defendant took plaintiff to Plymouth for the purpose of riding the mare at the races in August last, but on arriving at Plymouth, plaintiff discovered another person had been engaged to ride the mare, hence the present action arose. Plaintiff sued defendant for GBP 1.13s. for expenses &c. in going to Plymouth. The case created great laughter, and occupied some time. The tailor jockey it appeared only charged 2.6d. per day, for five days, for his loss of time. His Honor considered it a very moderate charge. The amount was made up as follows: five days, at 2.6d. per day, 12s.6d; expenses at Plymouth, 17s.6d; coach fare, back, 3s; total, GBP 1.13s. Judgment was given for plaintiff with costs. BODMIN COUNTY COURT - The Earl of Fortescue v. Billing - This was an action brought in this court by the Earl of Fortescue, who was represented by MR. G. B. COLLINS, of St. Columb, against MR. BILLING of Port Isaac, for whom MR. T. COMMINS appeared in court, to recover GBP 50, the amount of dilapidations said to be due on certain fish cellars at Port Isaac, the lease of which had expired. The action was brought in the August court, when the Judge deferred judgment, which he delivered at the last sittings. There were four objections raised to the action on the part of the defendant. First, he alleged that the title was in question, so as to deprive the court of its jurisdiction. But it having been shown that an action of ejectment had been brought and possession proved under it by the sheriff, this was at once overruled. It was secondly contended that the lease making no mention of the cellars, which had been erected subsequently to its date, defendant was not bound to repair; there being, however, a general covenant to repair, the Judge held it to apply to all buildings erected during the tenancy, and quoted several cases supporting that view. Thirdly it was suggested that defendant was wrongly sued as assignee, he having become possessed as executor of the original lessee, but it was held on the principle of Freeman v. Morrison, Bingham's new cases, that he was rightly sued as assignee and that having so entered and taken possession, he was liable for dilapidations in the same manner as any other assignee. It was fourthly contended that defendant should have been sued jointly with his brothers, who were co-executors; but the Judge considering that the 68th section of the County Court Act, expressly provided for this, held that the defendant was individually liable, and gave judgment accordingly for GBP 50 damages. The case was one of some interest and importance to the public. PICKING POCKETS - On Thursday the 11th instant, a large concourse of spectators assembled at Hayle Foundry, to witness Cooke's equestrian performance. There were observed amongst the crowd some light-fingered gentry, in the act of stealing from the pockets of some of the females. Police officer, WESTCOTT, on the railway station, who was on the spot, having succeeded in securing one of the gang, brought him before the REV. U. TONKIN, of Lelant. The fellow there described himself as WILLIAM HUGHES, of London, and not being able to give a satisfactory account of himself he was immediately committed to Bodmin gaol. ILL-TREATING A HORSE - On Friday last, EDWIN MILLS, of Mevagissey, was charged before MR. E. COODE, jun., of St. Austell, with beating and ill-treating a horse, and the offence being proved, he was fined 5s. and 16s.6d. costs. TRURO POLICE - On Friday last, JAMES COOMBES, of Bristol, labourer, was charged with stealing a shirt, pair of stockings, black neckerchief and other articles, the property of NICHOLAS HODGE, assistant-overseer of the parish of Kea. He was in company with RICHARDS, who, as stated in our last paper, broke into MR. HODGE's house on the 7th of July. He was committed for trial at the next sessions. On Tuesday last, CATHERINE STEPHENS, of Blackwater, (aged seventeen years of age), was apprehended for stealing from the dwelling-house of SARAH HOOPER, in the parish of Kenwyn, a skirt, petticoat, chemise, apron, &c. The robbery was effected by getting into the window of the house in the absence of the inmate. She was committed to take her trial at the ensuing sessions. FALMOUTH POLICE - On the 12th instant, before MR. TICKELL, and MR. CORNISH, a seaman named ANDREAS YUNDERSON, one of the crew of the "Sarah Margaretta," of Norway, was charged with smuggling twenty-eight pounds of tobacco, and pleaded guilty. He was sentenced to a fine of GBP 100, or six months' imprisonment. The fine not being paid, he was sent to prison. JOHN BREWER, summoned CAPTAIN WARREN, for an assault on him; the case was proved and a fine of 5s. with 10s. expenses was inflicted and paid. ACCIDENT - On Thursday evening the 11th instant, as the REV. P. PARSONS, Wesleyan Minister, St. Mawes was returning from his appointment, his horse started at some gipsy tents, near the road, between Trewithian and Tregear. He was thrown off, and his head severely cut. After lying there nearly an hour, he was found and removed to the house of Mr. E. H., HILL, where every kindness was shewn to him. He was afterwards conveyed to his own residence. DEATH OF A LUNATIC - On the 5th instant, an inquest was held at the County Lunatic Asylum, Bodmin, on the body of THOMAS MICHELL, who was found by one of the keepers early in the morning quite dead. He had taken the bed-sheet and fastened it to a square opening over the door, used for ventilation, and placing the other end of the sheet around his neck, he had hanged himself. The man was seen by the keepers between the time he went to bed (about seven o'clock), and the morning, no less than eleven times. The medical superintendent said the deceased had never shown any suicidal disposition, and according to his (the superintendent's) impression, he was one of the most unlikely patients to have committed such an act. The jury considered it to be one of those cases which ordinary vigilance could not have prevented, and that all proper attention had been given. The verdict returned was, "died by hanging, being of unsound mind." CORONERS' INQUESTS - The following inquests have been held before MR. JOHN CARLYON, county coroner: On the 12th inst., at Perranwell, on the body of a new born male child, which was found on the preceding Wednesday by some little boys on Greenwith Common, near Mount Pleasant. It was found wrapped up in a bit of worsted cloth and then placed in a bag and deposited in a conduit, near a hedge on the common. There were no marks of violence about the body, but from the cord not having been tied and other circumstances, considerable suspicions of its having been got rid of in an unfair way were excited. MR. BOYLE, surgeon, who was examined at the inquest, was of opinion that it had never breathed. No suspicion could be formed as to the mother of the child, and the jury returned a verdict of "found dead." On the same day at St. Ewe, on the body of LOUISA ANN COMMON, aged two and a half years, who caught her clothes on fire, on the preceding Tuesday morning, during the temporary absence of her mother, who had left the house only a few minutes, and was so burnt before the fire could be extinguished that she died on the Thursday morning. Verdict, Accidental Death. On Monday the 15th instant, at Skinner's Bottom, in the parish of St. Agnes, on the body of THOMAS SKINNER, mariner, aged twenty-one years. It appeared that deceased and a person called MATTHEW BLIGHT, and two boys, went to bathe on Saturday at Towan Porth, about one o'clock. Matthew Blight was the only one who could swim, and from his evidence it appeared that as he was swimming out to sea, he looked back and saw the deceased in distress; he turned and swam towards him, but the out-haul was so great that he was obliged to give up the attempt to save him, and had enough to do to get ashore. It was survey-day at Tywarnhayle Mine near St. Agnes, and several of the miners rushed to the spot and got down a boat and went out to the assistance of deceased, but he had sunk, and was observed by THOMAS GARLAND, on the cliff, washing in near the shore. Garland immediately stripped and went in and took out the body dead, about half an hour after it had disappeared from the surface of the water. Verdict, accidentally drowned. On the same day, at Truro, on the body of SAMUEL BRYANT, aged twenty-three years. Deceased was an ostler at the Dolphin Inn, and, on Wednesday fortnight, he was drinking there with some German women and another man; they left the house together in the course of the afternoon, and nothing more was seen of Bryant until the following morning, when he and the man with whom he had been drinking were seen up in the loft and were supposed to be sleeping. The strange man then went away, no one being able to tell who he was. Deceased was allowed to remain there, and he continued in the same state until Thursday evening, when he was removed into the Dolphin Inn and put into bed; it was supposed that he was still labouring under the effects of liquor; but, as he continued in the same state until the Friday afternoon, his brother had him removed to his house at Mill-place, near the Mill-pool, and sent for DR. PADDOM, who visited him in the evening, and ascertained from the symptoms, that he had received an injury on the upper part of the spine at the back of his head; and treated him accordingly; but neither the deceased nor any one else could give any account of anything that had happened, and after lingering till the following Thursday, he died. >From the evidence given at the inquest, it would appear that in attempting to get up into the loft, he must have fallen down from the ladder, which was a very dangerous one. The jury returned a verdict of "accidental death," and requested the coroner to see the landlord of the inn, and request him to get a safer means of access to the loft. On Tuesday, at Truro, on the body of THOMAS JENKIN, carpenter, aged sixty-eight, who was following his usual occupation in the morning, and died very suddenly in the afternoon of that day. Verdict, "visitation of God." On the same day at Mylor, on the body of JOHN CORNTHWAITE BOWMAN, aged thirty-seven years, surgeon in the Royal Navy. It appeared that on Monday, the deceased went out shooting, having with him two dogs - a large Newfoundland dog, and a kind of terrier. As some men belonging to Tregew farm were going into the house to dinner, they saw him near, and after they had entered the house, heard the report of a gun. On their going out on the farm after dinner, they found him near a hedge on the farm, lying on his back, a corpse, the two dogs lying by his side, and resisting the approach of any stranger. The gun was lying by his side, and the whole of the right side of his face was so shattered that it was impossible to recognize a feature. It would appear from the evidence of the persons who had examined the spot, that the deceased must have slipped his foot in attempting to get over the hedge, while holding the gun by the barrel in his right hand, and that in putting it down hard on the ground to keep himself up, the concussion must have caused the gun to go off, discharging the whole contents obliquely into his head through the right jaw and cheek. The gun was loaded with small shot, some of which were afterwards extracted from the peak of his cap, which was blown off at the time of the accident. It was a double-barrelled gun, and the left hand barrel, which did not go off, was found to be full cocked; so that it is probable the other barrel had also been full cocked. Verdict, "accidental death." The following inquests have been held before MR. HAMLEY, coroner: At Tintagel, on the body of ANN MARTYN, an old woman. She lived with her daughter and son-in-law, and slept in the same room. On the son getting up in the morning, and not hearing her move, he went to the bed and found her dead. She was quite cold, and was supposed to have been dead some hours. Verdict, died of natural causes. On the 15th instant, at Quethiock, on JOHN WIDGER. He was a mason, and was working in the outhouse of a farm belonging to MR. AIRE, a farmer. Mr. Aire's son went into the outhouse for some purpose, and saw deceased lying on the ground on his face. He got assistance, raised him up, and found he was dead. He had gone up on a ladder into the loft above, and was supposed to have got on some loose straw under which was a hole, through which he must have slipped and fallen on his head. Verdict, accidental death. On the 16th instant, at the parish of St. Columb, on THOMASINE VERCOE, a child 11 months old. The mother, who is a widow, lived in a cottage on the Goss Moor. She took the child to bed with her as usual. A short time after, she thought there was something the matter with her, and before she could call a neighbour, the child was dead. Verdict, died from natural causes. Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

Hi Rowena & Lyn There is also an excellent guide to historical documents for all things maritime on the Maritime & Coastguard Agency site, see: http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga07-home/workingatsea/mcga-rss/mcga-rss-hist orical.htm Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of klaush@iprimus.com.au Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 1:42 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea I'd be interested in any answers to this also. I have Benjamin Green who married Mary Hosken in Paul in 1830. The marriage register says he's in the coastguard. By the 1841 census Mary, 35, is listed as a basket weaver, still in Paul, with her 2 daughters Mary, 10, and Patience, 8. I'm assuming she's a widow, but I can't find a death for a Benjamin Green in Cornwall for this period, or any other record of him.. By 1851 Mary also appears to be dead as the girls are living with their aunt, Fanny Pearce, Mary's sister. Also, the 1841 census says the 2 daughters are not born in county, but 1851 and 1861 say b.Paul. By December 1861 both girls are in Australia. Does anyone know what became of Ben & Mary? Lyn in Melbourne >-- Original Message -- >I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, > >This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are >the >pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so >where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National Archives. > >Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be specific >records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive >holding this information?

Thanks, Lorna. Lyn in Melbourne >-- Original Message -- >From: "Lorna Leadbetter" <leadbetter@lineone.net> >To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:02:59 +0100 >Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea >Reply-To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > > >Rowena - yes, go to >http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp and >you >will find an alphabetical list of research guides on many different >subjects, including several relating to merchant navy officers and seamen. > >Lorna > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> >To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:54 AM >Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > > >> Apologies Lorna, but what is the TNA Research Guide? Do you mean the >> National Archives in Britain? >> >> Rowena >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna Leadbetter >> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 5:02 PM >> To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea >> >> TNA Research Guide on Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, Domestic >> Records >> Information.61 gives information on this subject. >> >> Lorna >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:43 AM >> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea >> >> >>> Dear Listers >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, >>> >>> Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March >>> 1845. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, >>> Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas >>> in >>> any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 >>> and 1861 census. >>> >>> >>> >>> I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no >>> success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her >>> daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do >>> not >>> match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 >>> census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him > >>> in >>> the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find > >>> on >>> FreeBMD doesn't match his age. >>> >>> >>> >>> This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are >>> the >>> pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if > >>> so >>> where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National >>> Archives. >>> >>> >>> >>> Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be >>> specific >>> records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime >>> Archive >>> holding this information? >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Rowena >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >>> information >> >>> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >------------------------------- >Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > >Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information >http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message

Lyn if the girls are in Australia, possibly their Dad is too. From about 1850, everyone wanted to go to the gold fields. And of course, if he drowned, there'll be no death certificate. migs > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > > I have Benjamin Green who married Mary Hosken in Paul in 1830. The > marriage register says he's in > the coastguard. By the 1841 census Mary, 35, is listed as a basket > weaver, > still in Paul, with her 2 daughters Mary, 10, and Patience, 8. I'm > assuming > she's a widow, but I can't find a death for a Benjamin Green in > Cornwall > for this period, or any other record of him.. > By 1851 Mary also appears to be dead as the girls are living with > their aunt, > Fanny Pearce, Mary's sister. > Also, the 1841 census says the 2 daughters are not born in county, > but 1851 > and 1861 say b.Paul. By December 1861 both girls are in Australia. > Does anyone know what became of Ben & Mary? > Lyn in Melbourne Civilisation is a movement and not a condition, a voyage and not a harbour - Arnold Toynbee, English historian, 1889 - 1975

Apologies Lorna, but what is the TNA Research Guide? Do you mean the National Archives in Britain? Rowena -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna Leadbetter Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 5:02 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea TNA Research Guide on Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, Domestic Records Information.61 gives information on this subject. Lorna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:43 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > Dear Listers > > > > I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, > > Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March > 1845. > > > > Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, > Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas > in > any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 > and 1861 census. > > > > I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no > success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her > daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do > not > match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 > census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. > > > > Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him in > the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find on > FreeBMD doesn't match his age. > > > > This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are > the > pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so > where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National > Archives. > > > > Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be > specific > records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive > holding this information? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Rowena > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fabulous Chris. Thank you very much for those two emails, and fantastic to know that Elizabeth went into her 90's. She would have seen times of change. Now putting a much later time frame into FreeBMD, there is a death registered for an Elizabeth F. Noall age 93 in Cardiff. So, I'll need to invest in a certificate to investigate that one. Kind regards, Rowena In Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Uphill Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:12 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea Hi Rowena There is an Elizabeth F. NOALL, age 90, born St Ives, in the 1911 Census: At S Albany Road Redruth: Wm Hy WEBBER, 66, widower, Mariner, born Portreath Sidney J. SEMMENS, son-in-law, 33, Blacksmith, born Redruth Hannah J. SEMMENS, daughter, 30, born Portreath Thomas WEBBER, son, 23, Carpenter, born Portreath Robert WEBBER, son, 19, Chemist Assistant, born Redruth Sidney J. SEMMENS, grand-son, 3 months, born Redruth Elizabeth F. NOALL, mother-in-law, 90, born St Ives (Plus a servant - Bessie HOSKING) [Reference RG14PN13973 RG78PN832 RD299 SD2 ED4 SN123] Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rowena Gough Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 8:44 AM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea Dear Listers I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March 1845. Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas in any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 and 1861 census. I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do not match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him in the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find on FreeBMD doesn't match his age. This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are the pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National Archives. Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be specific records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive holding this information? Kind regards, Rowena ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'd be interested in any answers to this also. I have Benjamin Green who married Mary Hosken in Paul in 1830. The marriage register says he's in the coastguard. By the 1841 census Mary, 35, is listed as a basket weaver, still in Paul, with her 2 daughters Mary, 10, and Patience, 8. I'm assuming she's a widow, but I can't find a death for a Benjamin Green in Cornwall for this period, or any other record of him.. By 1851 Mary also appears to be dead as the girls are living with their aunt, Fanny Pearce, Mary's sister. Also, the 1841 census says the 2 daughters are not born in county, but 1851 and 1861 say b.Paul. By December 1861 both girls are in Australia. Does anyone know what became of Ben & Mary? Lyn in Melbourne >-- Original Message -- >I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, > >This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are >the >pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so >where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National Archives. > >Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be specific >records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive >holding this information? > >

Hi again Rowena In 1901 Elizabeth was also in Redruth (transcribed as NOAH): In Albany Road: Hannah J. WEBBER, head, married, 53, born St Ives Hannah J. WEBBER, daughter, 24 (21?), born Portreath Thomas WEBBER, son, 14, born Portreath (?) WEBBER, son, 12, born Portreath Robert WEBBER, son, 9, born Redruth Elizabeth NOALL, mother, widow, 79, living on own means, born St Ives [RG13 piece 2239 folio 84 page 16] Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rowena Gough Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 8:44 AM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea Dear Listers I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March 1845. Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas in any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 and 1861 census. I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do not match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him in the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find on FreeBMD doesn't match his age. This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are the pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National Archives. Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be specific records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive holding this information? Kind regards, Rowena ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rowena There is an Elizabeth F. NOALL, age 90, born St Ives, in the 1911 Census: At S Albany Road Redruth: Wm Hy WEBBER, 66, widower, Mariner, born Portreath Sidney J. SEMMENS, son-in-law, 33, Blacksmith, born Redruth Hannah J. SEMMENS, daughter, 30, born Portreath Thomas WEBBER, son, 23, Carpenter, born Portreath Robert WEBBER, son, 19, Chemist Assistant, born Redruth Sidney J. SEMMENS, grand-son, 3 months, born Redruth Elizabeth F. NOALL, mother-in-law, 90, born St Ives (Plus a servant - Bessie HOSKING) [Reference RG14PN13973 RG78PN832 RD299 SD2 ED4 SN123] Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rowena Gough Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 8:44 AM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea Dear Listers I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March 1845. Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas in any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 and 1861 census. I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do not match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him in the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find on FreeBMD doesn't match his age. This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are the pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National Archives. Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be specific records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive holding this information? Kind regards, Rowena ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rowena - yes, go to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp and you will find an alphabetical list of research guides on many different subjects, including several relating to merchant navy officers and seamen. Lorna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > Apologies Lorna, but what is the TNA Research Guide? Do you mean the > National Archives in Britain? > > Rowena > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna Leadbetter > Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 5:02 PM > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > > TNA Research Guide on Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, Domestic > Records > Information.61 gives information on this subject. > > Lorna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> > To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:43 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > > >> Dear Listers >> >> >> >> I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, >> >> Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March >> 1845. >> >> >> >> Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, >> Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas >> in >> any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 >> and 1861 census. >> >> >> >> I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no >> success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her >> daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do >> not >> match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 >> census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. >> >> >> >> Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him >> in >> the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find >> on >> FreeBMD doesn't match his age. >> >> >> >> This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are >> the >> pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if >> so >> where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National >> Archives. >> >> >> >> Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be >> specific >> records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime >> Archive >> holding this information? >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> >> Rowena >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information > >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March 1845. Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas in any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 and 1861 census. I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do not match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him in the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find on FreeBMD doesn't match his age. This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are the pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National Archives. Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be specific records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive holding this information? Kind regards, Rowena

TNA Research Guide on Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, Domestic Records Information.61 gives information on this subject. Lorna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:43 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mariner Deaths at Sea > Dear Listers > > > > I have a query re 'deaths at sea'. I have a Cornish Master Mariner, > > Thomas Noall from St Ives who married Elizabeth Freeman Shugg on 9 March > 1845. > > > > Thomas was the son of Matthew Noall and Jane Cogar, bapt. 29 Aug 1824, > Scilly Islands. His father was a mariner. I've been unable to find Thomas > in > any Census, but his wife is listed as a master mariner's wife in the 1851 > and 1861 census. > > > > I've been trying to find a death record for he and his wife, with no > success. Elizabeth is recorded in the 1891 Census living with her > daughter-in-law in Illogan, but FreeBMD deaths for Elizabeth Noall's do > not > match her age at death. Would anyone be able to check the 1901 and 1911 > census for Elizabeth for me? She was born in 1821, St Ives. > > > > Thomas appears to be at sea for the first 3 Census. I couldn't find him in > the 1841 either (or his father). And the only death record I could find on > FreeBMD doesn't match his age. > > > > This raised the question for me re deaths at sea of Master Mariners. Are > the > pre civil registration deaths for captains and masters recorded, and if so > where? I've not been able to find anything searching the National > Archives. > > > > Would all deaths at sea post 1837 be registered? And would there be > specific > records listing captains and masters? Is there a specific Maritime Archive > holding this information? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Rowena > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Looking for descendants of Peter Diamond DOIDGE bn. c1778. Calstock, Cornwall, England... Or any descendants of his siblings.... Jane bn. c1775 John bn. c1775 William bn. c1776 Richard bn. c1780 Thomas bn. c1782 Charles bn. c1785 Stillborn Francis bn. c1785 Stillborn Ann bn. c1786 Hilton Doidge New Zealand

Thank you Pat will get in touch with him Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Banks" <tencreek@tpg.com.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mark TATT > Me again > > Graham Warmington is the OPC for St.Gluvias (Ponsanooth) but there do not > appear to be any Baptismal records on the OPC database. I tried to get his > email contact address but it didn't come up for me. > > Cheers > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks > Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 1:05 PM > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mark TATT > > Hi Barbara and Nicole > > Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an OPC for Ponsanooth unless it is > included with another parish. > > Mark TATT's birth was registered in the second quarter of 1874 at > Falmouth. > > If you want to order his birth certificate the reference is Falmouth 5c > 198 > 2nd Quarter 1874. > > Cheers > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb & Dusty Miller > Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 11:36 AM > To: Cornish List > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mark TATT > > Hi List, > > I have a mark TATT in the 1911, said he was bn in Ponsanooth Cornwall in > 1874 s/o John & Mary TATT nee MARTEN > > Does anyone have his bpt details as I can not find them in the Cornwall > BDM > site > > Could SKP help please > > Anything most appreciated > > Barbara & Nicole > Marton New Zealand > bardus@xtra.co.nz > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 6294 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: > http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 6294 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html

Thank you Pat, We might have to order the birth certificate Thank you again Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Banks" <tencreek@tpg.com.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mark TATT > Hi Barbara and Nicole > > Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an OPC for Ponsanooth unless it is > included with another parish. > > Mark TATT's birth was registered in the second quarter of 1874 at > Falmouth. > > If you want to order his birth certificate the reference is Falmouth 5c > 198 > 2nd Quarter 1874. > > Cheers > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb & Dusty Miller > Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 11:36 AM > To: Cornish List > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mark TATT > > Hi List, > > I have a mark TATT in the 1911, said he was bn in Ponsanooth Cornwall in > 1874 s/o John & Mary TATT nee MARTEN > > Does anyone have his bpt details as I can not find them in the Cornwall > BDM > site > > Could SKP help please > > Anything most appreciated > > Barbara & Nicole > Marton New Zealand > bardus@xtra.co.nz > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 6294 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: > http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 6294 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html

An 1822 Marriage Register Entry [In the Parish of Calstock, Cornwall] shows that a Jane DOIDGE appears as a witness to a marriage between... James Williams WILLS and Betsy RICKARD I am interested in knowing more about this witness... Jane DOIDGE The other 2 witnesses were Bernard WESTLAKE and Mary BROOMING If any one knows of the above marriage and/or has this Jane DOIDGE in their tree... Please contact me... The above Betsy and James WILLS migrated to New Zealand.. Hilton Doidge New Zealand hilton.d@paradise.net.nz Researching... DOIDGE, DIAMOND and HANCOCK in Cornwall.

An 1822 Marriage Register Entry shows... [In the Parish of Calstock, Cornwall] James Williams WILLS married Betsy RICKARD I am interested in one of the 3 witnesses... Jane DOIDGE The other 2 witnesses were Bernard WESTLAKE and Mary BROOMING If any one knows of the above marriage and/or has this Jane DOIDGE in their tree... Please contact me... The above Betsy and James WILLS migrated to New Zealand.. Hilton Doidge New Zealand Researching... DOIDGE, DIAMOND and HANCOCK in Cornwall.

Thanks Graham, I'll make a note of your address. I clicked on the contact on the OPC Database and nothing happened although I tried several times. Cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 1:51 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mark TATT Dear Pat, I may not be able to through any further light on the christening record for Mark TATT, but I am contactable. Graham W warmington49@btinternet.com <>< Graham Warmington Winkleigh, Devon www.penrynopc.co.uk/ www.winkleighchapel.co.uk www.westdevonmethodists.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Banks" <tencreek@tpg.com.au> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mark TATT > Me again > > Graham Warmington is the OPC for St.Gluvias (Ponsanooth) but there do not > appear to be any Baptismal records on the OPC database. I tried to get his > email contact address but it didn't come up for me. > > Cheers > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Banks > Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 1:05 PM > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Mark TATT > > Hi Barbara and Nicole > > Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an OPC for Ponsanooth unless it is > included with another parish. > > Mark TATT's birth was registered in the second quarter of 1874 at > Falmouth. > > If you want to order his birth certificate the reference is Falmouth 5c > 198 > 2nd Quarter 1874. > > Cheers > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb & Dusty Miller > Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 11:36 AM > To: Cornish List > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Mark TATT > > Hi List, > > I have a mark TATT in the 1911, said he was bn in Ponsanooth Cornwall in > 1874 s/o John & Mary TATT nee MARTEN > > Does anyone have his bpt details as I can not find them in the Cornwall > BDM > site > > Could SKP help please > > Anything most appreciated > > Barbara & Nicole > Marton New Zealand > bardus@xtra.co.nz > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 6294 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: > http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html > > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, I have a mark TATT in the 1911, said he was bn in Ponsanooth Cornwall in 1874 s/o John & Mary TATT nee MARTEN Does anyone have his bpt details as I can not find them in the Cornwall BDM site Could SKP help please Anything most appreciated Barbara & Nicole Marton New Zealand bardus@xtra.co.nz -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 6294 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html