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    1. [CORNISH-GEN] Error reports in original records
    2. Pat Banks
    3. Greetings all. Hope I'm not barking up the wrong tree, apologies if so, but, as OPC transcribers are now using film and image numbers when transcribing church registers, it should be sufficient to give the image number as Bill says. I have found this a very fast way of finding records which need to be re-checked. Also I find vicars are not very good at spelling and will often write "as she is spoke". One can almost HEAR the church member speaking and the vicar struggling to make sense of it all!!! Cheers Pat Pat Banks Perth, Western Australia OPC: Gulval, St.Levan, Mullion Researching: Cock - Mullion George - Illogan Osborne - St.Levan Polglase - Breage, St.Erth

    08/08/2010 02:48:10
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] Family History Pilot Site
    2. Carol Sheffer
    3. Does anyone know if the Illogan Parish records will be added to the Cornwall Parish Registers on the Family History Pilot Site? Wonder why it's missing. I have family born and married there that I have been researching. Carol

    08/08/2010 02:45:22
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] LDS online images and OPC Database error reporting
    2. Chris Uphill
    3. Hi Bill I'm trawling through the Lelant burials 1813 plus and will send a file to Myra once complete. Cheers Chris Uphill -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill O'Reilly Sent: Saturday, 7 August 2010 10:52 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] LDS online images and OPC Database error reporting Dear Cornwall Researchers, I look after the error reporting system for the OPC database. If anyone uses the newly available LDS images of Cornwall parish registers to check entries in the OPC database and spots an error in our transcription then please use the 'report an error' button on the OPC database site to submit an error report. When you do this please will you quote the image number of the original parish register page that you viewed on the LDS site as that will save me a bit of time trying to locate it myself! Thanks for your help. Regards, Bill OPC (Genealogy) for Gerrans, St Anthony & St Just in Roseland : www.rootsweb.com/~enggerop Cornwall Parish Records Database : http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ Cornwall Census : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ukocp.html ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/07/2010 05:29:27
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] Checking OPC Database
    2. Richard and Veronica Rashleigh
    3. Hi All- I am glad that the OPC database is getting a good check against the original scans from LDS. I bet it is slow work, but as the transcriptionist of the Lelant Burials 1613 forward, sometimes it was a best guess or a leap of faith to read some of the handwriting or copied records. I am sure that all of the transcribers will be glad that someone else's eyes are double checking our typing! So PROUD to be part of the OPC project- Bonnie Rashleigh Mithian, Tywardreath & Lelant Parish records

    08/07/2010 02:52:31
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] LDS online images and OPC Database error reporting
    2. Bill O'Reilly
    3. Dear Cornwall Researchers, I look after the error reporting system for the OPC database. If anyone uses the newly available LDS images of Cornwall parish registers to check entries in the OPC database and spots an error in our transcription then please use the 'report an error' button on the OPC database site to submit an error report. When you do this please will you quote the image number of the original parish register page that you viewed on the LDS site as that will save me a bit of time trying to locate it myself! Thanks for your help. Regards, Bill OPC (Genealogy) for Gerrans, St Anthony & St Just in Roseland : www.rootsweb.com/~enggerop Cornwall Parish Records Database : http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ Cornwall Census : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ukocp.html

    08/07/2010 09:51:40
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] LDS online images and OPC Database error reporting
    2. David Coppin
    3. Bill: I was thinking that it might be even easier with less trouble for you if an error report were accompanied by the image, as we have already found the image. Using the error reporting button brings up the form to fill in, and I do not see how one could attach the image to the report, so it would require a separate email. The image viewer on Family Search has a "save" feature, so one can save the image to a file and email that image to you, which might spare you the bother of searching for it. So what I might propose would be to: (1) fill in and send the error report, which makes certain that the proper record is identified, but put a note in that report that the image from Family Search will be sent to you by email. (2) Save the image from family search and send it to you by email in order to spare you the trouble of searching for it. Would that work for you? David Coppin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Reilly" <bill.or@btinternet.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:51 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] LDS online images and OPC Database error reporting > Dear Cornwall Researchers, > > I look after the error reporting system for the OPC database. > > If anyone uses the newly available LDS images of Cornwall parish registers > to check entries in the OPC database and spots an error in our > transcription > then please use the 'report an error' button on the OPC database site to > submit an error report. When you do this please will you quote the image > number of the original parish register page that you viewed on the LDS > site > as that will save me a bit of time trying to locate it myself! > Thanks for your help. > Regards, > Bill

    08/07/2010 05:46:56
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton weekly news, 24 October 1851, Qtr Sns part 1 of 4
    2. WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 24 OCTOBER, 1851 Quarter Sessions, Part 1 of 4 Thursday, October 16 (Before Sir Colman Rashleigh, Bart.) HORSE STEALING - THOMAS JEFFREY, 23, and HENRY JEFFREY, 15, were indicted for stealing a horse, the property of THOMAS THOMAS. In a second count, Thomas Jeffrey was charged with receiving the horse, knowing it to have been stolen. Mr. HOCKIN and Mr. J. B. COLLINS for the prosecution; Mr. SHILSON for the defence. Mr. THOMAS THOMAS gave evidence that he is a farmer of St. Winnow, and that on the afternoon of the 16th of September, his servant-boy put the horse to the field, but on the following morning it was missing. Inquiries were made in the neighbourhood, but without success, and hand-[bills were posted stating the loss of the horse. On the 25th of September, witness's servant went to Summercourt fair, and there found the horse. JOSEPH WALKOM said he found the horse at Summercourt fair in possession of the younger prisoner, Henry Jeffrey; witness then went for a constable. THOMAS SANDY, a labourer who works in the woods at Glynn, (near Bodmin) for Lord Vivian, was going on the morning of the 17th of September by Grey-mare Lodge gate, and saw two gipseys coming from the direction of Western Tap-house. The younger gipsey was leading a dark-bay horse; the other was walking by the side of the road. The prisoners were those two gipsies; the horse was the same as that shown him yesterday by BURROWS, the constable. It was not much after eight o'clock when he saw the men; prosecutor's house was between two and three miles from where he saw them, and they were coming from that direction. He noticed the horse because it was in better condition than the horses gipseys usually have. It was his duty to look after people trespassing on plantations; he took notice of the two gipseys; had seen them at different times during the last five years, and knew them again. He considered the horse he saw was worth GBP10. JOHN BURROWS, a constable of Saint Columb, was at Summercourt fair on Thursday the 25th of September, and was shown by the lad WALKOM a horse in possession of the younger prisoner. I went to him, and asked him the price of the horse; he said, eight guineas. After some time I asked if he would take a GBP 5 note; he said no. I then asked where his master was? He said he had no master, it was his brother's, but he could sell and take the money as well as his brother. The brother afterwards came, and I asked him if it was his horse? He said, yes. I asked him the price; he said GBP 7. I then sent for policeman Coombe, who was in the fair, and told him I considered it was a stolen horse, and desired him to take the men into custody, and I took the horse. The younger prisoner cried; the elder said he bought the horse at Probus for GBP 2.5s.; he said afterwards he gave GBP 2.12s.6d. for it. On the following day I saw the prosecutor, who identified the horse as his property. HENRY COOMBE, policeman of St. Columb, said when he apprehended the prisoners at Summercourt fair, he charged them with stealing the horse. The younger one said "it is my brother's," and nodded to the other; the elder prisoner said "yes, it is mine, I bought it at the fair, and gave GBP 2.12s.6d. for it." He said he bought it of a young man called ROBERT FIELD, of St. Neot. He said, "I thought the horse was stolen when I bought it, but they can't hang me, they can only transport me for it." As he was taking the prisoners to St. Columb, another gipsey called WORDEN, brother-in-law to prisoners, overtook them. The elder prisoner then said he bought the horse of TOM THUMB . Witness had understood since that Tom Thumb is a gipsey, and prisoner had told him that Tom Thumb and HENRY COOPER were two names for the same person. Constable Burrows was then re-called, and said he considered the horse worth GBP 10. Mr. SHILSON addressed the jury in behalf of the prisoners, contending that they could not place reliance on the evidence of THOMAS SANDY. It was very unlikely that if the prisoners stole the horse on the night of the 16th of September, they should be seen at eight o'clock next morning quietly leading it no further off then two miles from the prosecutor's house. He submitted that the witness Sandy must be mistaken as to the identity of the prisoners; and was it at all probable that Sandy should have seen the younger prisoner (fifteen years of age) going up and down the country for the last five years, as he said he had. They surely could not convict the prisoners on such testimony. At any rate there was nothing to show that the younger prisoner stole the horse, for though he was leading it at the fair, he had it in possession for his brother; he says when asked, "it is my brother's," and the brother acknowledged it to be his. He (Mr. Shilson), should, however, show that the horse was in reality bought at the Probus fair on the 17th of September, by the elder prisoner, and that he gave GBP 2.12s.6d. for it. He should prove this by disinterested witnesses; therefore prisoner's account of the transaction was quite true; and he should also show that GBP2.12s.6d. was about the value of the horse. Neither was it likely, if the horse had been stolen by the prisoners, that they would have exposed it for sale in so public a manner in Summercourt fair, about eight or nine days afterwards. He then called JAMES MICHELL, a blacksmith at Probus, who on Probus fair-day said he was acting as waiter at the Cornish Mount Inn. Probus fair was on the 17th of September. A young man came to the inn between eight and nine in the morning with a light-bay cob horse, which was placed in the stable. Witness first saw prisoner, Thomas Jeffrey, there about twelve or one o'clock. He was looking about for a horse, and the young man who brought the horse there asked him to go out and see it. He heard the young man offer it to prisoner for sale. Witness was asked to take it out of the stable, and did so. The young man said the horse belonged to him; it had no saddle or bridle on, but a halter. Prisoner said he was stopping at Tregony; he had no money with him, but would get it in a half an hour. Witness after that saw the men in the parlour together, but did not see the money paid. He was shown a horse yesterday at Bodmin, and to the best of his knowledge it was the same as the young man sold to the prisoner, but the horse was now looking much better than when he saw it at the Cornish Mount; it was about thirteen and a half hands. On cross-examination, witness said he had known Cooper since the 17th of September, and had heard him called Tom Thumb. He did not know the young man who brought the horse to the Cornish Mount; he had on a dark dress, - a frock coat, and was a respectable looking man, rather like a tradesman. Witness said he lived with his father and mother at Probus, and admitted that he was often out of work. JOHN MICHELL was ostler at the Cornish Mount, and father of last witness. He recollected a man bringing a horse between eight and nine in the morning of Probus fair day. He put it in the stable, fed it, left it there an hour or an hour and a half, then turned it out to grass, and in the afternoon brought it in between two and three o'clock; he saw the elder prisoner there and the man who brought the horse offered it to him for GBP5. After that the man asked witness to lock up the horse till called for, as the purchaser had not the whole of the money with him. When prisoner returned he received the horse from the man. The horse was a light bay, and in very low condition; should think GBP 2.12s.6d. enough for it. Had seen a horse since he came to Bodmin, but did not take particular notice of him. Witness's son told him the man who sold the horse was called Treleaven, a shoemaker; he had on a respectable dark dress. Witness had worked five or six years at Mr. DOBLE's. RICHARD WHITFORD said he is a commission agent at Probus, and his mother-in-law keeps the Cornish Mount. At the fair, he saw the horse which was sold by a man in dark clothes to the prisoner. It was about fourteen hands high, a light bay, and he heard from the man that the prisoner had bought it of him. He had seen a horse since he came to Bodmin, and to the best of his knowledge and belief it was the same horse, but so very much altered he was astonished to see it; it was now in a greatly improved condition, and as a horse improves in condition he improves in colour. There was no mark by which he knew the horse. When he saw it at the fair, it was worth very little; he did not know that he would give GBP5 for it now. He heard that the young man who sold the horse was called Treleaven, a shoemaker, and he said he lived at St. Neot. JAMES HEARN, a cattle-drover employed by MR. BRYANT, of Launceston, was at Probus fair on the 17th of September, and saw a young man there with a light bay horse about thirteen hands high. He saw the prisoner there about twelve, and again in the afternoon at the Cornish Mount; did not hear him make the deal, but saw him pay the money for the horse, GBP 2.12s.6d., in the lower parlour at the Cornish Mount. A number of persons were in the room; the younger prisoner was not there. Before the money was paid, prisoner went out, and witness heard he was gone to Tregony for the money. When the money was paid the seller of the horse stood a gallon of beer. Witness saw a short man there they called Tom Thumb. Witness had travelled the country seventeen years, but had never seen the prisoner before. He had seen a horse in constable Burrow's possession, and could swear it was the same horse as was sold to the prisoner at Probus fair; it was a light bay. He saw the horse in the course of the day several times, and different persons asked the price; at first the man said GBP 5, afterwards GBP 4, and then GBP 3.10s was named as the price; he should think it was not worth more than GBP 3.10s. The man said he had a little farm and was going to leave it, and therefore wanted to sell his horse. Witness did not then hear the man's name, but had since been told at Mr. TAPP's, at the Barley Sheaf, Truro, that the man's name was Treleaven. He should know the man if he saw him again, he looked like a farmer. The horse had a mark where the saddle was put on; he believed it was there now, but had not taken particular notice. The horse was rather darker now than when he saw it at Probus, being in a better condition, but was not worth more than GBP 4 now. JOHN HARRIS, a miller by trade, lives at Probus, and sells nuts at fairs. He saw prisoner pay GBP 2.12s.6d. for a horse to some young "gent" at Probus fair. The horse was a light bay, thirteen hands high. Witness had seen a horse in the stable at Bodmin, and believed it was the same as that he saw sold at the fair, but it was now in an improved condition. He heard the seller was ROBERT TRELEAVEN, of St. Neot; had heard since that he was a shoemaker. Prisoner was riding a grey horse at the fair. CROSS-EXAMINED: The policeman had not been able to find such a man as Robert Treleaven in St. Neot. (All the witnesses had been ordered out of court at the commencement of the trial, but this man, Harris, admitted that he had been in the gallery, and heard part of James Hearn's evidence.) HENRY WHAERTON, a travelling tinman, prisoner's brother-in-law, said they had their tent pitched near Tregony on the day before Probus fair. He was at a public-house in the lower part of Tregony on the evening of the 16th of September, and returned to his tent between nine and ten at night. His wife, his brother-in-law's wife, Henry Jeffrey (the younger prisoner), and children were in the tent. He and his brother-in-law had each a horse, and turned them on the roads. They then had supper and went to bed he and his brother-in-law, and they both got up between six and seven in the morning. Witness said, after we rose we went into the road, found our horses, and rode to Probus fair on the 17th, about one o'clock. Next day we changed our tent in near Probus, and the horse my brother-in- law had bought was turned out on the public-road; it was a light-bay cubbish horse, with switch tail, about 14 1/2 hands high, to the best of my knowledge. (This witness seemed to be a quietly-disposed man, and mentioned farmers for whom he had worked at harvest.) Mr. HOCKIN then replied on the part of the prosecution, submitting that the evidence for the defence was not entitled to credit. Two of the witnesses, James and John Michell, had contradicted each other; John says his son told him the man's name was Treleaven, whilst James says he did not know the man's name. But even if the statements of the witnesses were not false, they were of no value. A man stealing a horse might manage amongst his gang to have a horse sold to him on the same day, and contrive to sell it before witnesses. If it was offered in the fair at all, it was no doubt purposely offered at a price it would not sell at; if only worth GBP 2.12s.6d., it was offered in the fair for GBP 5. This was just the course that would be taken by an experienced horse-stealer. The witness, Sandy, was not likely to be mistaken with regard to the prisoners, for it was his business to keep an eye on people going about the woods, and therefore to notice people. His attention was attracted to this horse by its being a better one than may usually be seen with travelling gipseys. They must also take notice of the elder prisoner's remark when apprehended, "I thought it was stolen when I bought it, but I can't be hanged for it, I can only be transported." The CHAIRMAN, in summing up, pointed out the discrepancies in the evidence. All the witnesses for the defence say it was a light bay horse that was sold; the witnesses for the prosecution always speak of the horse stolen as a dark bay. Sandy said he remarked the horse because of its high condition; whilst those who saw the horse at Probus speak of its low condition; the witnesses on each side also greatly differed as to the value of the horse. Two of the witnesses say the horse was thirteen hands high, one says fourteen, and the last witness fourteen and half hands. If the jury believed Sandy, the evidence for the defence could not be true; for according to the prisoners' witness, the horse must have been in Probus between eight and nine o'clock in the morning, which was about the time Sandy says he saw the prisoners with it not far from prosecutor's house. They must consider what credit they could give to the testimony on each side, and whether the horse sold and the horse stolen were the same or not. He then read over and commented on the evidence. The jury retired from the court, and after deliberating about half an hour, returned with a verdict of Guilty of stealing against both prisoners, but recommended the younger prisoner to mercy. In passing sentence, the CHAIRMAN said, as far as we know this is your first offence, but it is one of considerable magnitude, one which a few years since would probably have consigned you to a scaffold. In your case, Henry Jeffrey, you are recommended to mercy by the jury, because they suppose you acted under the direction of the older prisoner; but you are quite old enough to know that you were committing a great offence. The sentence of the court is that you be imprisoned for four calendar months, and kept to hard labour. For you, Thomas Jeffrey, the sentence is that for this offence you be transported for seven years. ...... STEALING FROM CONSOLS MINE - MARK MORCOM, 35, was indicted for stealing a quantity of brass bearings, fixed to engine-houses at the Consolidated Mines, Gwennap the property of HENRY PRYNN ANDREW and others. There were four counts in the indictment, charging the prisoner with stealing bearing brasses from engines on the 30th of July, 6th of August, 7th of August, and 11th of August; and a fifth count charged the prisoner with receiving the property knowing it to have been stolen. Mr. SILSON conducted the prosecution, and called the following witnesses: JOHN HOLMAN - I am one of the engineers at Consols Mine in Gwennap, and have been so employed for twenty years. Prisoner was a kibble-filler in that mine. We have an engine there called Davis's. In July last we missed a bearing brass from that engine. In August last, we missed five bearing brasses from Andrew's engine, and missed also bearing brasses from Shear's engine, two from the bob, one from the fly wheel shaft, and one from the sweep-rod. On the 7th of August, we missed two brasses from Richards's engine. The prisoner had access to those engines; the men change at the engine house when they come up from underground. The bearing brasses are part of the engine which is fixed to the engine house. In consequence of information I went on the 9th of August with Capt. JAMES EDDY to the Foundry at Perran Wharf. A quantity of brass was there shown to me by WILLIAM JORY, which had been brought there the day before. I selected pieces enough to make up six brasses, which I considered belonged to our engines at Consols. Those bearing brasses had been broken into pieces; I gave them to Captain Eddy, who took them to Consols, and gave them to JOHN VEALE, the constable. On the 12th of August I went again to Perran Foundry, accompanied by JAMES UREN. JORY then showed us more brass, and we selected pieces enough to make three brasses more. James Uren took charge of the pieces, and with me compared them; we found one to fit at Andrew's engine, and the other two at Shears's. We also fitted the six brasses previously found; I fitted four and WILLIAM DAVEY two. Of the four, one matched at Davis's, one at Andrew's, and two at Shears's engine. Prisoner was afterwards apprehended. I saw him in Veale's custody the evening before he was taken before the magistrates. I heard him say he had not stolen or sold any brass. Next morning, in the account-house, he said if he could see some of the brass he should know it; it was thick on one side and thin on the other, with part of a hole in it. He said he knew what brass he had, - the brass he sold he had from PAYNTER. The pieces were then brought to him by constable Veale. No threat or inducement was held out to him to say anything; he took up part of the brass produced by Veale, and said that was part of what he had sold. The prisoner, who was undefended, asked witness if he had ever known him carry anything away from the mine? Witness replied that he never did. CAPTAIN JAMES EDDY said he had been an agent in Consols for twenty-seven years. The adventurers are Messrs. WILLIAMS, ANDREW, DAVEYS, and numbers besides. On the 9th of August I went with the last witness to Perran Foundry; brought home some brass, and delivered it to Veale, the constable. In reply to prisoner, witness said he had never known him do anything amiss, or carry away anything from the mine. WILLIAM JORY is employed at the Perran Foundry, and purchases old metal. On the 8th of August I purchased of PETER CARLYLE upwards of 219 lbs. of brass; purchased also of him copper and pewter. I placed it in a brass pan under lock until JOHN HOLMAN and CAPTAIN EDDY came, and did not mix it with other brass. By the CHAIRMAN - Who is this Peter Carlyle; what is he? Witness - I cannot say. What did he come to you with? - With brass and copper. Have you bought any of him before? - Yes, some years before. Did you ask him where he got this brass from? - No, sir. What price did you give him for it? - I cannot say, I did not pay the money, I only weighed it. Did he see any one else at the Foundry before he saw you? - Yes, I suppose before me he saw the clerk. Are you in the habit of often buying brass bearings broken up? - No, I believe not. But you did not ask him any questions? - No, sir. PETER CARLYLE was next examined. He said he was a dealer in marine stores living in Kenwyn-street, Truro. On the 11th of June he bought of WILLIAM STEPHENS 44 lbs of brass, and put it in amongst the rest he had, which was a great deal. On the 28th of June he again purchased of Stephens 28 lbs of brass, which was also put amongst the rest. On the 8th of August, he took that brass with other metal to Perran Foundry, and sold the brass at 5 1/2d. per lb., the last witness, Jory, having weighed it. Witness said, the brass I purchased of Stephens, I delivered to Jory. I don't understand the nature of bearing brasses, but that in constable Veale's possession looked very much like what I sold at the Foundry. WILLIAM STEPHENS said he is a marine store dealer living at Kea. He was before Mr. PELLEW, the magistrate, at Falmouth, on the 14th of August; and saw there a quantity of brass bearings; constables VEALE and UREN produced them. I sold some brass to Peter Carlyle on two occasions. I bought the brass I sold to him of the prisoner, Mark Morcom. I bought it of him at different times, and sold all I purchased of him to Peter Carlyle. I I gave 4ed. a pound for it, money and goods. (Prisoner here said, "I had 2 1/2 a pound for it.) Witness - I did not buy above 6 lbs. at a time of him; and did not buy brass of that description of any other person at that time. I have known the prisoner, and understood he worked at Consols. When before the magistrate I could not swear to the brass as that I purchased of Morcom, but it is like it - I have no doubt about it. By the COURT - Did you ask prisoner where he got the brass from? Witness - Yes, he told me he found it. What is brass of that description worth per lb? - Witness - I made 4 1/2d. Is that the value of it? - I don't know. Are you in the habit of buying brass of miners? - No sir. JOHN VEALE, constable, received a quantity of brass from Captain Eddy, and now produced it. I had the prisoner in custody at the account-house the day he was taken before the magistrates. I held out no inducement to him to say anything. He said he was no thief, and should not suffer for other people; he had the brass of FRANK PAYNTER. Prisoner said he could swear to some of the large pieces he had from Painter, and that he (prisoner) sold them to William Stephens. FRANK PAYNTER examined - I was engine-man at Consols for a number of years, but am now employed at Garras mine. The prisoner, Mark Morcom, worked at Consols when I left. I never gave him that brass, or gave him any to sell, or had any dealings in brass at any time. I had left Consols before the brasses were missed. By the Prisoner - Did you not give me some in a quarry, and some more in a lane? Witness - No. And the rest you gave me on Kitbraws down? Witness - No, never. Prisoner - When you brought them to me they were as black as a hat; they are clean now. Witness - I never gave him any brass, or sold him any, or had any doings as to any brass with him, or received any money from him any day of my life. The Chairman - You are upon your oath now, witness. Witness - I am, sir. JAMES UREN, constable, received from Jory and William Davey pieces of brass, and now produced them. (It was here stated, in reply to the Chairman, that the engine-man, kibble-filler, and lander have access to the engine-house.) WILLIAM DAVEY said he had been engineer at Consols for many years. I assisted Captain Holman in fitting pieces of brass to Andrew's engine; also fitted some others into one block, but cannot say which engine they belonged to. (Witness here produced the pattern by which one of the brasses was cast, and shewed that the numbers and holes of some pieces which he fitted together, corresponded. He said he placed the numbers and bored the holes himself. These were brasses from Andrew's engine; some of the iron work of Shear's engine was also produced, placed on the table in court, and pieces of the brass fitted into it by the witnesses.) In reply to the prisoner, witness Davey said he never knew him carry anything away from the mine. JOHN HOLMAN re-called, said they had found nine bearing brasses out of fourteen that had been missed. He had fitted the whole of the pieces himself. HENRY WILLIAMS said he had been engine-man at Consols for fifteen years; and had worked Shears's, Andrew's, and Davis's engines. He worked Shears's before the 22nd of May, and did not observe anything missing about the engine, which worked regularly. He oiled her several times, and did not miss any part. It was possible to take brasses from the bob, and the engine work as before, but he believed they were all there when he worked the engine. On the 7th of August, when he came in the morning to the engine house, the kibble-filler and lander were there, and told him that some person had broken into the window. He then went to examine the engine (Andrew's) and went up first on the bob, where he noticed that two of the blocks had gone down rather more than usual; and he then found that the bearing brasses were gone. He then came down from the chamber, and looking around perceived that the top block was gone from the fly-wheel shaft, that the great brass was gone. This brass must have been taken away that night, as the day before he worked that engine, and she did her work regularly. He could not have worked her without that brass, for if that was out of its place, the engine would break up, and perhaps break in pieces. It was fortunate that the discovery was made before the engine was put to work. He made known the loss of the brasses to Mr. Holman, and afterwards to the agents. They had four landers, who took it in turn; the lander that morning he believed was Thomas Taylor. Frank Paynter, the other engine-man, had left in July, some days before these brasses were stolen from Andrew's engine. The first brass found wanting was to Davis's engine on the 30th of July, which he make known to Mr. Holman. The witness also stated the loss of brasses from Shears's engine. The prisoner was a kibble-filler, and had been employed at Shears's, Andrew's, and Davis's engines, but witness could not say he had been much at Davis's. Frank Paynter before he left had worked Shears's engine. They had a private place to keep the key of Andrew's engine-house and prisoner knew where the key was kept. Prisoner (to witness) - you have been a comrade of mine for many years, have you ever seen me carry away anything from the mine? Witness - I have known him from a boy, and could trust him with anything; I have found him to be an honest man home close to this. Prisoner's statement before the committing magistrates, after he had been duly cautioned, was then read. It was to the effect that the brass was delivered to him by Frank Paynter, near Wheal Prosper mine, in Kea parish, and that Paynter told him if he could sell it he should have part of the money. The Chairman then summed up the evidence, remarking as he proceeded that Paynter had left the mine when the brasses were stolen from Andrew's engine. He also said it appeared to the Court to be a very loose way of buying brass at the Perran Foundry, in purchasing of a marine store dealer like Carlyle, without asking him questions which ought to have been asked. It was greatly to be wished that such establishments would be more particular as to whom they buy brass of. On the whole evidence he asked the jury whether they could be satisfied that the prisoner stole these brasses, being fixtures in the engine-houses, and whether they were the property of Henry Prynn Andrew and others, the adventurers. After a few minutes' deliberation, the jury pronounced the prisoner Guilty. The Chairman, in passing sentence, said, "Yours is a very bad case, for not only was the property taken of considerable amount, but it was taken in such a way as might have caused the death of many of your fellow-workmen. These brasses must have been stolen by night; you took advantage of the opportunity you had in being employed, knowing where the keys were, and having access to the engine-house; and instead of protecting the property of your employer, you plundered them. But you are strongly recommended by the agents of the mine as having hitherto borne an irreproachable character, otherwise the sentence of the court would be much more severe upon you. The sentence is that you be Imprisoned and Kept to Hard Labour for Six Calendar Months. ..... ROBERT STEPHENS, 50, committed on the 30th of July last, by the Mayor of Lostwithiel, for want of sureties in a breach of the peace towards his wife, MARY ANN STEPHENS, was then placed at the bar. The wife did not appear against him, and after being reprimanded by the Chairman, and cautioned as to his future conduct, he was discharged. SECOND COURT (Before C. B. Graves Sawle, Esq.) RICHARD HAM was charged with stealing a bag on the 13th of August, the property of RICHARD SANDERCOCK, of North Tamerton. Verdict, Not Guilty. GEORGE CARTLAGE, 20, was found Guilty of stealing a horse-brush from JOHN CANN, ostler at the Tree Inn, Stratton. The prisoner was one of the grooms connected with Cooke's Circus establishment; he was attending to one of Mr. Cooke's horses in the Tree Inn stables, and from thence stole the brush. Sentence, Two Months' Hard Labour. WILLIAM HENRY OPPY, 22, was indicted for having made an assault, with intent, on EMILY SANDERS, a child under the age of ten years; he was also charged with common assault. The little girl resides with her mother in the parish of Perranarworthal. The assault was committed on the evening of the 27th of September, in Church-lane, leading from the high road, near Perranwharf. Verdict, guilty of the assault with intent. Sentence, Eighteen Months' Hard Labour. HENRY HAMBLY, 18, was charged with assaulting JAMES LANG, a constable, at St. Kew, on the 28th of July. The evidence of the constable failed to prove that he was assaulted by the prisoner, and the Chairman directed an acquittal. ELISHA HOLMAN was indicted for assaulting GRACE LAVIN, she being quick with child, and another count charged a common assault. (The first count, charging with administering drugs to procure miscarriage, was thrown out by the Grand Jury.) Mr. J. B. COLLINS for the prosecution, and Mr. STOKES for the defence. The evidence of the prosecutrix was that she lives at Bezore, in the parish of Kenwyn, and had worked for prisoner's father on a farm in the same parish. In April last she was with child by the prisoner, and had told him of it. One afternoon, at his desire, she came into the field, where he was at work , and whilst engaged in packing straw, he took hold of her, threw her on the ground, and fell upon her. She received injury from this, and about a fortnight afterwards was obliged to have the attendance of a surgeon, and in three weeks suffered a miscarriage, and had been unwell ever since. The defence set up by Mr. Stokes was that the occurrence was purely accidental, that there was no wilful assault committed, but that the parties were romping together and fell on the ground. He also drew out of the witness on cross-examination, that the man had said, when they got up from the ground, he hoped she was not hurt; and that sometime afterwards she told him unless he married her she would bring him before the magistrates, but if he behaved "honour bright" she would think no more about it; he then told her he had heard bad reports about her, and should not marry her. She was also cross-examined as to her conduct at Truro Midlent fair, on going home in the evening. She denied that she romped with parties, or was drunk. The prosecutrix's mother also gave evidence of her daughter having been confined to her bed for some time in consequence of the injury she received. Mr. Stokes was about to call witnesses to speak to the character and conduct of the prosecutrix, but this was overruled by the Chairman, who decided that such evidence was irrelevant to the issue. The Chairman, in summing up, put it to the jury whether they thought the occurrence was accidental between the parties, or the assault wilfully committed by the prisoner. Verdict, Not Guilty. .... CHARLES HOLMAN was charged with stealing a donkey and foal, the property of CHARLES LUKE, of Wadebridge. From the evidence it appeared that the donkey was in a field belonging to THOMAS VERCOE, of Roche; and that prisoner and prosecutor came there and had a dispute, each claiming the donkey. The Chairman stopped the case, observing that it was a question of right of property, and directed the Acquittal of the prisoner. JAMES TREVARTON was charged with assaulting JOSEPH DAVIES of the parish of Veryan. Mr. DARKE for the prosecution, and Mr. sTOKES for prisoner. It appeared the prosecutor and prisoner met on the 19th of August last, in a lane near Veryan church-town, and that after some words the assault was committed, and Trevarton so much injured as to be under surgical care for four days. On the part of the prosecutor, Mr. JOHNS, a constable of Veryan, gave evidence, and for prisoner a witness named WHITFORD was called. The evidence was very contradictory, but the jury found the prisoner Guilty, and he was sentenced to Eight Months' Imprisonment with Hard Labour. (A recent statute has enabled the Court to inflict hard labour in such cases.) The jury were then discharged. FRIDAY, OCTOBER 17 The prisoners were sentenced this morning by the Chairman, Sir Colman Rashleigh, Bart. The following are the sentences of those whose trials were reported last week - JOHN NICHOLAS SPARGO, stealing a cucumber from the St. Austell Cottage Gardening Society, Two weeks' hard labour. JOHN THOMAS, stealing a collar from John Andrew, of St. Glubias, One Month's hard labour. JANE EVEREL, stealing silk from Thomas Treweek, of Kenwyn, One Month's Hard Labour. JOHN CORNISH, stealing a jacket from Mark Richards, of Redruth, One Month's Hard Labour. ROBERT ANDREW, stealing a quilt from Robert Coombe, of st. Austell, Two Month's Hard Labour. JOSIAH SPARGO, stealing a shirt from Thomas Battershill, of Truro, Two Months' Hard Labour. CATHERINE STEPHENS, stealing wearing apparel from Sarah Hooper, of Kenwyn, Two Months' Hard Labour. GEORGE CARTLIGE, stealing a brush from John Cann, of Stratton, Two Months' Hard Labour. EDWIN ANDREWS, stealing shoes from John Short, near St. Austell, Two Months' Hard Labour. GEORGE TONKIN, stealing spirit and wine from his master Augustus Sandoe, of St. Blazey, Three Months' Hard Labour. WILLIAM LAKES, stealing a shirt from Joseph Juliffe, of Bodmin, Three Months' Hard Labour. THOMAS WAYCROFT, stealing a shirt from John Puckey, of Gwennap, Three Months' Hard Labour. MARY FRANKS, stealing clothing &c. from William Trenhaile of Truro, Four Months' Hard Labour. JOSEPH FINCH stealing a watch and key from John Curry, of Budock, Six Months' Hard Labour. WILLIAM PAYNTER HAWKEY, stealing a horse from John Warne, of st. Breock. In passing sentence the Chairman said, your offence is one of great magnitude; but we have received a very good character of you, and there is reason to believe that you are rather of weak intellect. The sentence, therefore, considering your offence, will be a very lenient one. Let us hope you will not come here again; you have had a very narrow escape from being sent out of this country. The sentence is that you be Imprisoned and Kept to Hard Labour for Twelve Months. ROBERT JOHNS MOYLE, stealing an iron-grate and chimney front from Wheal Rose account-house, &c., Twelve Months' Hard Labour. RICHARD BRAY. This prisoner had pleaded Guilty to two indictments, and a conviction for felony last year was proved against him. For the first offence, One Week's Imprisonment; for the second offence, Ten Year's Transportation. ROBERT HAWKEY, ANTHONY HAWKEY, and GEORGE OSBORNE, the two latter convicted of stealing geese from Richard Roberts, of Landulph; and Robert Hawkey of feloniously receiving the same. A conviction for stealing ducks in 1849 was also proved against Robert Hawkey. The Chairman said, from circumstances which came out on the trial, the Court had reason to believe that he (Robert Hawkey) had been long living on plunder, and that he had been the cause of a great part of the crime of the other prisoners. He then sentenced Robert Hawkey to Ten Years' Transportation. George Osborne was sentenced to Six Months' hard labour, and Anthony Hawkey to Four Months' Hard Labour. The Chairman said the sentence of the latter would have been more severe had it not been intimated to the court that he had been ruined by the elder prisoner. They hoped that when the elder was removed from the country, he (Anthony Hawkey) would amend his way of life. RICHARD RICHARDS and JAMES COOMBS, stealing wearing apparel from Nicholas Hodge, of Kea. The Chairman said a prior conviction in 1850 had been proved against Richards. He had been in gaol four times besides and the Court had reason to believe he had also been convicted of felony at Taunton. James Coombs had been imprisoned five times, and been convicted at Wells of felony in 1850. They were each sentenced to be Transported for Fourteen Years. The following appeal was then heard - JOHN BURTON, appellant; ELEANOR RICHARDS, respondent. Messrs. ROGERS and Son, Solicitors for appellant, Messrs. GRYLLS and HILL for respondent. This was an appeal against an order of the Justices of the West Division of Kirrier, made on JOHN BURTON, the appellant, for the maintenance of the infant illegitimate child of ELEANOR RICHARDS, the respondent. Mr. SHILSON appeared for the appellant, and Mr. DARKE for the respondent. The case occupied the court all day. The appellant is a tailor, at Constantine, and the respondent a dress-maker, now residing in Ruan Minor. It appeared from the evidence that the respondent is an orphan girl. Her father, who was a farmer, of Ruan Minor, died about twelve years since, and respondent then went to reside with her sister in Constantine, near the appellant. They soon became acquainted, and the acquaintance grew into a strong attachment; but the family on both sides were not agreeable to their keeping company together, and the courtship was then carried on in a clandestine manner. The intimacy continued up to November, 1850, when respondent told appellant she was with child, on which appellant ceased to visit her, and denied the paternity of the child. Several witnesses were called, who spoke to having seen the appellant and respondent together on several occasions, and all the witnesses gave respondent a good character. A letter written by appellant to respondent in October, 1850, was produced, and also a book appellant lent her about the same time. Mr. Shilson endeavoured to shew by cross-examination, that respondent had been intimate with other young men, and in his address to the Court contended the respondent's testimony was not corroborated in any material particular to satisfy the requirements of the statute. He was then about to call witnesses to discredit the respondent, but an objection was taken that respondent had been cross-examined, and denied the facts attempted to be proved, and that appellant was bound by her answers. Mr. Darke then replied, submitting that he had corroborated the mother's evidence in several important particulars, and that evidence of mere intimacy was sufficient if the woman had borne a good character. He then commented on the strongest point of corroboration, and the Court after a short deliberation confirmed the order, with GBP 5 costs. This concluded the business of the sessions Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

    08/06/2010 09:21:29
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. October 10, 1851. B.M.D.'s
    2. Joy Hungerford
    3. Many thanks to Mike, Doug and Clare for their replies. I've been searching to see if I ever photographed this headstone, but I'm afraid not. I think the error could have been a mistranscription, but more likely a stonemason, carving 1843 and 1853 for the two death dates, instead of 1843 and 1851. Anyway, I'm sure James was my upright 4GGU, who was worthy of universal respect. I'm proud of him. Just for the record, James married Mary PARSONS and his brother, John, (my 4GGF) married Mary's sister, Thomasin PARSONS. Kind regards Joy ---------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:15:18 +1000 > From: cbpascoe@yahoo.com.au > To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. October 10, 1851. B.M.D.'s > > They did it on purpose to confuse us genealogists, Joy! :-) > > Clare > > Joy Hungerford wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Listers >> >> >>> At Ventorden, in the parish of Stokeclimsland, on the 2nd instant, Mr. James HAWTON, aged 85 years. >> I think this may be my 4GG Uncle, but I'm a bit confused - or else the stonemason, working later, was, as this was what appeared on his headstone:- >> >> Sacred to the memory Mary, wifeof James Hawton ofVenterdon in this parishwho died May 26 1843aged 74 years >> James Hawtonfor 50 yrsParish Clerk of thisParish who died Oct 2nd 1853 aged 86 yearsHis upright and humbledemeanour caused him universal respect >> >> Many thanks to William and all other transcribers of the West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. >> Kind regards >> joy >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/06/2010 05:10:28
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton weekly news, 24 October 1851 Local Intelligence & Statistics of Cornwall
    2. You can find previous transcriptions of the West Briton in the List Archives - which I usually access through the Rootsweb main menu. You can also visit our website, which Rita Bone Kopp has uploaded. WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 24 OCTOBER, 1851 BRITISH AND FOREIGN BIBLE SOCIETY - A public meeting connected with the St. Austell branch of this society, was held in the Town-hall, on Monday evening last, when the chair was taken by Mr. T. COODE. Mr. HOLLAND, of Clifton, attended as a deputation from the Parent Society, and in a very able manner stated to the meeting, the extensive and beneficial operations of this society. The meeting was also addressed by the Rev. C. S. WOOLCOCK, of Charlestown, and the Rev. JAMES COPE, (Independent) of St. Austell. At the close of the meeting, a collection was made amounting to GBP 3.14s. The anniversary of the St. Minver branch of the British and Foreign Bible Society was held in the National School-room, at Tredrizzick, on Friday the 17th instant, Mr. THOMAS LIDDELL in the chair. Mr. KENT, the deputation from the parent society, gave a most eloquent address, which was listened to by a respectable audience. The collection was considerably in advance of last year. A person present, who is well acquainted with the parish, stated that he believed there was not a family to be found there which had not a copy of the New Testament, and that very few families were without a bible. PENRYN MECHANICS' INSTITUTE - The introductory lecture of the session was delivered on Monday evening the 13th instant, by Mr. McLEOD, on "Mental culture and its promotion through the instrumentality of Mechanics' institutes." The lecturer treated the subject very ably, and a vote of thanks to him was unanimously carried. The members are happy to state that since the commencement of the session, several have joined the Institute. HELSTON LITERARY INSTITUTION - On Tuesday last, a lecture was delivered by Mr. JOHN BEST, on "Military Heroism." BOROUGH OF EAST LOOE - A correspondent states that twelve constables (the greater part of them respectable tradesmen and teetotalers) have been sworn in for this borough for the ensuing year, who are determined, with the assistance of the mayor, to suppress all vice and disorderly conduct committed by the assembling of young men in the streets at night, thereby insulting and obstructing persons passing by, and in various ways annoying the public, which has been an injury to the town, and has been complained of to the authorities, but no equally determined efforts have before been made to stop such practices. It is hoped, that by their combined exertions such bad conduct will in future be prevented. MICHELL FAIR -- This fair held on Wednesday the 15th instant, was but thinly supplied with cattle of all descriptions, owing, perhaps, to the heavy rain which fell for some hours in the early part of the day. There were about 3,000 sheep penned, which met with a ready sale at rather improved prices; the demand for other descriptions of cattle was also good, the greatest part of those in the fair having changed hands in the course of the day. St. AUSTELL FAIR - This fair, held on Friday last, was very thinly attended, and but a small number of cattle were brought into the town. PILCHARD FISHERY - No pilchards have yet been taken in any of the seans at Newquay up to Tuesday last; still, hopes are entertained that they have not all as yet passed down, as the driving boats on Monday night took about 4,000 per boat a short distance from the shore. THE BARQUE "GOOD INTENT" - A missionary of the Bible Christian denomination, Mr. CHAPPLE, in a letter dated Quebec, October 1st, states that he has arrived at that place on his way to his future missionary station at Grange, in the state of Ohio. He left Fowey on the 18th of August, in the barque "Good Intent", which through light and sometimes contrary winds was somewhat detained on her passage. He speaks highly of the accommodation on board, of the orderly conduct of the crew, of the abilities of Captain WALBURTON, and the great attention paid by him to his passengers, several of whom have signed a testimonial to that effect. APPROACHING SIGN OF WINTER - On Saturday last, Mr. EDWARD WRIGHT, of White Lane, Philleigh, shot a fine woodcock. ROBBERY - Some night last week, the poor-box kept at Godolphin District Church was robbed of its contents. No clue has yet been made to the discovery of the thief. FATAL ACCIDENTS - On the 15th instant, at about half-past five o'clock p.m., Capt. HUGH TREGARTHEN, Mr. NAWLAN and daughter, with JOHN ELLIS and JOHN NICHOLLS, (two men in the Trinity service), left the island of St. Mary's, Scilly to proceed to that of Tresco, the wind being at the time N.N.W. blowing moderate, but very squally. They proceeded to the nearest point of Tresco, called Skirt Island, where Captain Hugh Tregarthen, Mr. Nawlan and daughter, landed, and John Ellis, and John Nicholls, notwithstanding that Captain Tregarthen urged to them to leave the boat there for the night, were left to conduct the boat to its usual mooring place. Captain Tregarthen, finding on his arrival at his home at old Fremaley, that the men had not arrived, became afraid that some accident had happened to them, and taking another boat he went in search and found the boat sunk, her mast only being above water, at a place called Hedge Rock, within a quarter of a mile of the men's home, but he could not get any intelligence of the men. The next morning at low water the bodies were found near the boat, and were interred at Tresco on Friday. It is supposed that the boat was capsized in a heavy squall. ELIZABETH ROSKILLY, widow, late housekeeper at Fowey Consols Account-house, took passage in the "Good Intent", of Fowey, WARBURTON, master, for Quebec, where she arrived all well. She had gone to her children who are doing very well in Canada; and had landed, but went on board again to look after her things, when unfortunately she fell into the hold and was killed. CORONER'S INQUESTS - On Tuesday last, an inquest was held at Gwennap, before Mr. John CARLYON, county coroner, on the body of JOHN OATES, aged thirty-three years. The deceased was a miner and worked at the United Mines, Gwennap. On Monday morning he was descending to his work by the man engine at the 194 fathoms level under the adit, and had reached the depth, but instead of stepping from the engine into the level, he by some means or other fell away. His comrade and another miner named ABRAHAM NORTHEY immediately descended by the ladders to render assistance, but when they came to him, he was lying on the pentice at the 208 fathoms level, a corpse. Verdict, accidental death. HUNTING APPOINTMENTS - The F.B. hounds will meet on Monday the 27th at Truck Hill; and on Friday the 31st, at Praze, in Crowan; each day half-past ten o'clock. Mr. Morgan's fox hounds will meet on Monday next, at the Toll-bar, Brentor; and on Thursday, at Callington New Bridge; each day at half-past ten o'clock. Mr. Archer's harriers will meet on Monday October 27th at Tresmarrow Farm; and on Thursday at the Jamaica Inn; each day at half-past ten o'clock. Mr. Trelawny's hounds will meet on Tuesday next, at the Lyncham Inn; and on Friday, at Harford Bridge; each day at half-past ten. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STATISTICS OF CORNWALL (No. 38) To the Editor of the West Briton SIR - I now come to the hundred of Pydar and begin with the parish of St. AGNES - Branneck Hill, usually called St. Agnes Beacon, is a well known hill, conspicuously elevated high an eminent military station, together with all the ground extending from Trevaunance Coom to Porth- chapel Coom, extending over an area of about 1,200 acres, with a coast line of three miles of high- cliffs, and on the land side was protected by a high bank and deep entrenchment, which extended nearly two miles from the steep side of one room to the steep side of the other, and the bank appears to have been full 20 feet high above the bottom of the ditch. A great part of the bank and ditch has been leveled down, and at the village of Polbreen, houses and gardens have been constructed on its site. Borlase mentions this as "a vast entrenchment" and further says (A.D. 1757) "the ditch has been widened in some places and leveled in others, to make gardens - and the vallum has been leveled and carried off to make room for houses. It is much defaced by tin-works, but is still a great work." The top of the hill extends about N.N.W. and S. S. E., and near the latter extremity, (a little north of the ruins of a pleasure house) are two large heaps of stones, which appear to have been collected for the purpose of throwing at any enemy that might attempt to scale the hill, the stones being all of a size that may be used for such purpose. What probably gave so much importance to this station, was the very rich tin-grounds of Polberrou and the other mines near Trevaunance. At the N.N.W. end of the top of the hill is a barrow, diameter 55 feet. Borlase says "To the west of the beacon on the top of the enclosed hill, is still to be seen the remains of a small square fortification, adjacent to which are three sepulchral barrows." These things I have not observed, although I have examined the ground pretty closely. About a quarter of a mile N.W. of the houses at Trevissick, is a circular entrenchment, single bank and ditch, about a half an acre. Through the ground of Menaguisey and Cooswortha farms, are the remains of circular and other entrenchments, extending nearly half a mile in length. The houses at Menaguisey are on the site of the western part of the works, where the traces of two circular entrenchments are visible; and a little southward of the houses at Cooswartha are the traces of a circular entrenchment forming the easternmost part of the works, a little west of which are traces of part of an elliptical work; and the traces of other works which apparently connected the whole into one vast line of defence, extend from the eastern to the western circles. From the position of these works, we may conclude that they were intended to protect the northern country from an enemy who was on the south. On the N.W. part of Goonearle downs, about half a mile E.N.E. of Stencoose, is a barrow, diameter 50 feet. About three furlongs S.E. of the last-mentioned, are two barrows also on Goonearle downs, diameter of each 50 feet. About half a mile west of the Chiverton Arms Inn, are the barrows, well known by the name of "Two Barrows", diameter of each 90 feet, they are about 60 fathoms asunder; between them is a small barrow, diameter 25 feet, a little south of which are two more, diameter of each 30 feet. On the downs, by the N.E. corner of Trenethick enclosures, and a little west of the road from Truro to St. Agnes, are two barrows, called "Mingoose Barrows", each 65 feet diameter; about a quarter of a mile north of which is "Middle Barrow: diameter 65 feet; and further north about a furlong are two barrows, diameters 40 and 20 feet. Outside of the enclosures, about a furlong N.E. of the last-mentioned, are the remains of a barrow called "Hurling" or "Chywillywatty" barrow. On Goonlaze downs, nearly a quarter of a mile W.S.W. of Valianoweth, is a barrow, diameter 40 feet; and extending south-eastward from it are seven barrows, within a furlong's length, diameters 55, 35, 40, 55, 35, 35 and 60 feet. On Mithian downs, about a mile south of Mithian-village, is "Mithian Barrow," diameter 65 feet. On Trevellas downs, nearly half a mile north of Trevellas village, is a barrow, diameter 45 feet. About half a mile E.N.E. of the last-mentioned is a barrow, diameter 50 feet; a little N.W. of which is a small low barrow, diameter 35 feet; and about a furlong further N.E. is a barrow, diameter 45 feet. Near the S.E. corner of the parish, at about half a mile eastward of "Two Barrows," is a very large barrow, diameter 105 feet, a little west of which are two smaller barrows, diameter of each 50 feet, with a trench surrounding each of them. I am, Sir, Your obedient servant, RICHARD THOMAS Falmouth, October 17, 1851 ............................................................................................................. DEVON (with some Cornish content) SALE OF PROPERTY BY THE TRUSTEES OF LORD GRAVES An auction was held at MORSHEAD's Hotel, Devonport, on Thursday, by the direction of the trustees under the settlement of the Right Hon. Lord GRAVES, for selling various estates, comprising, in the whole, about 1,100 acres, on each side of the Hamoaze, adjoining the harbour of Devonport. Lot 1 consisted of the limestone quarries at Catdown, and sundry quays, docks, public-houses, residences, &c., under least to Messrs. SPARROW and others - producing a rental of GBP 815.9s.4d. For the property Mr. E. H. SCOTT bid GBP 5,000; but this offer not having been accepted, it was put up by the auctioneer at GBP 10,000, and no bidding being in advance of that, the lot was brought in. Lot 2. Great and Little Ernesettle and Agaton Farms, and other property in the parish of St. Budeaux, containing altogether 365 acres, and producing an annual rental of GBP 659.11s.1d. This lot was put up by Mr. SMITH, of Devonport, at GBP 8,000, and the bidding increased to GBP 15,000,- where they were stopped by the competitors. Upon this lot there was a reserved bid of GBP 17,000, at which it was brought in. Lot 3 consisted of land adjacent to Torpoint, suitable for building, and comprising nearly eight acres now producing GBP 34 per year. This was purchased by Mr. SMITH, at GBP 1600. Lot 4 consisted of Withnoe Barton, and part of Bridgeman estate, in the parish of St. John's, containing upwards of 222 acres, and producing an annual rental of GBP 245. This was put up at GBP 3000, and the biddings by the competitors closed at GBP 6,000, when a reserve bid was put in of GBP 6,500, at which it was brought in. Lot 5 consisted of several small occupations in St. John's parish; containing altogether about 47 acres of ground, and producing an aggregate rental of GBP 82.14s.3d. This was sold to Mr. BOGER, it was supposed for the Earl of Mount Edgcumbe, for GBP 3,000. Lot 6, Manor of Treganawke and Seagers, let at the rent of GBP 144 per annum, and comprising upwards of 150 acres, was also sold to Mr. BOGER for the Earl, for GBP 3,600. Lot 7 - Raines's or Piper's estate, in the parish of Antony, producing the annual rent of GBP 40, and containing about 48 acres, was sold to Mr. SMITH for GBP 1,400. Lot 8 - Higher and Lower Blarick estates, in the parishes of Antony and Sheviock, producing the rent of GBP 125 per annum, and comprising more than 163 acres, was likewise sold to Mr. SMITH for GBP 4,200. Lot 9 - Higher Insworth, in the parish of Maker, containing 31 acres, and leased at the rent of GBP 35 per annum, was bought in for GBP 1,200. Mr. ROBERT COAD, of Liskeard, auctioneer, conducted the sale, and was attended by MR. PHELPS, solicitor, of the firm of Messrs. JENKYNS and PHELPS, of London. Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

    08/06/2010 07:47:58
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch - how to report errors
    2. Rowena Gough
    3. Many thanks for your fullsome answer. Great to know I can submit an error report if I trip over something. Also fabulous to know where to look for the original images (yahoo, looking forward to this). An invaluable resource. Rowena -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jwmos99@msn.com Sent: Friday, 6 August 2010 12:09 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch - how to report errors Hi Everyone - Rowena asked > Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 18:50:21 +1000 > From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch > - St. Austell area > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > > I have a question with this. Have just done a few look-ups, and I agree it's > wonderful to see some information that has been hard to find thus far, the > odd parish which doesn't have information on the OPC site, etc. > > Where there is a miss-spelling (found an obvious one) can there be a request > to have it checked or changed, and where would one make that request? For > instance the surname "Vining" is spelt "Vininy", for a St Ives Shugg and > Vining marriage. > > I also noticed a marriage which only had a year date, which I'm sure I've > seen a full date for. > > Rowena I suspect our problems are originating from the fact that there are 2 sections of the Pilot; one section has the original images (which are limited in some cases) under "Search our Collection" on the main page, AND an "individual search" function on the top of the main page. If someone uses the individual search on top, there are transcribed records returned. Some of these are in error, as Rowena noted. (Actually, lots of them are - one lady found that over 100 records from Kent showed the wrong town, because 2 different places were on one film!!!) The good news is that LDS DEFINITELY IS accepting "error reports" for these - and they've promised to act on them. I was contacted by a lady today who told me about other errors that are being corrected, so the process is working. Just don't expect quick answers!! <VBG> If you look at the very top line of the main page, there are choices listed. Choose the one about "Reply to us" or "Feedback - Errors" from the drop-down menu, and keep your message to 1 to 2 sentences, and very clear. I've spoken to a gentleman who's working on this, and he said they didn't tend to spend much time on "wordy", hard to understand complaints. 'Course, they're very, very busy just now!! But he's elated, and so is his team, over getting it online, and they do want it to be correct. They need to know where the correct information originated - so please be sure to mention your source. Of course, as others have said, the original images in the collection can't be changed, but they're wonderful because they do show researchers what was recorded, and sometimes carry original signatures, etc. They also contain original "mistakes" as well!! (as we all groan over vicars who couldn't spell, etc.) As for a marriage with only a year, perhaps the original was torn, and your record came from a Bishop's Transcript? There could be several different explanations. Hope everyone enjoys the new resource!! Julia Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/06/2010 06:56:24
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] John Williams from Bodmin to Canada
    2. Pat Banks
    3. Sorry Lynda, I pressed the wrong buttons. Past transcripts of the West Briton are contained in the Archives of this list and contain a lot of material regarding trials and trial outcomes. I'd like to give you the address but, as usual when in a hurry, I can't find it! I'm sure there will be someone on the List who will point you in the right direction. Cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynda Brattan Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:21 PM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] John Williams from Bodmin to Canada Hi, I wonder if anyone could direct me in the right direction to find any records on John Williams born in Bodmin in 1816 to Thomas Williams and Phillipa Bake. John married Ann Goninnan Cruett in Bodmin in 1840, and our family story says that he was expelled out of Cornwall and England to Canada sometime after he married, but before 1844. Is there any way to find out what John was involved in to be deported to Canada? Thanks, Lynda ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/06/2010 02:32:28
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] John Williams from Bodmin to Canada
    2. Pat Banks
    3. Hi Lynda You might find something in a previous transcription of the West Briton -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynda Brattan Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:21 PM To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] John Williams from Bodmin to Canada Hi, I wonder if anyone could direct me in the right direction to find any records on John Williams born in Bodmin in 1816 to Thomas Williams and Phillipa Bake. John married Ann Goninnan Cruett in Bodmin in 1840, and our family story says that he was expelled out of Cornwall and England to Canada sometime after he married, but before 1844. Is there any way to find out what John was involved in to be deported to Canada? Thanks, Lynda ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/06/2010 02:21:31
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] John Williams from Bodmin to Canada
    2. Mary Hester
    3. Hi Lynda Sadly Williams is a very common name as far as Convictions are concerned so had no luck on that score. Believe the following are the Family in the 1841 Census at Bodmin : Higher Bore Street,1,Thomas Williams,60,,Shoe Maker,In county, ,,Phillipa Williams,,60,,In county, ,,James Williams,20,,Carpenter,In county, ,,Elizabeth Williams,,15,,In county, Higher Bore Street,1,John Williams,25,,Mason,In county, ,,Ann Williams,,25,,In county, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/40152a.html As far as the Family story that he had been expelled from Cornwall and England it reminded me of what my Grandmother had told me. She said that someone in the Family had disgraced it by marrying the servant so had been expelled to the mainland from the \isles of Scilly. What I found when I started my Family search was that it was her Grandfather who had married the servant and a Farm was bought for them at Gwinear whereas his Parents only lived in Lelant and not Scilly! So stories can get distorted over the years start ! I have had a quick look at the Shipping Lists,so far with no luck but start by looking at http://www.cyndislist.com/ships.htm#Lists Good Luck Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda Brattan" <gbrattan@rogers.com> To: <CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: 05 August 2010 16:20 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] John Williams from Bodmin to Canada > Hi, I wonder if anyone could direct me in the right direction to find any -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 326 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

    08/05/2010 05:26:11
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] John Williams from Bodmin to Canada
    2. Jason Austin
    3. Hi Lynda Family stories are notoriously inaccurate, especially one such as this going back over 160 years. You might want to start a parallel question on the list asking if there was a practice of people being "expelled" to Canada in the 1840's - there may not have been. There was a practice involving many of the colonies of what was called Remittance Men where men who caused or might cause, problems for their families, including younger sons of wealthy families who would not inherit, were paid by the families to stay out of Britian - i.e. money was remitted to them so long as they stayed away. This was a family matter, and not an expulsion. See, for example, http://www.fortsteele.ca/exhibits/kootenay/ethnic/rmen.asp http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/english/7 http://www.multiculturalcanada.ca/Encyclopedia/A-Z/e3/7 Remittance men in Africa <http://books.google.ca/books?id=XS7iGMnW43kC&pg=PA78&lpg=PA78&dq=remittance+men+africa&source=bl&ots=aahg9g-byl&sig=slaAGpVwX5DvtLVdmj5FpIB5C60&hl=en&ei=Zp9bTNHiCYKmsQON6Z1F&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=remittance%20men%20africa&f=false> Hope this helps Jason Victoria, BC Canada Lynda Brattan wrote: >Hi, I wonder if anyone could direct me in the right direction to find any >records on John Williams born in Bodmin in 1816 to Thomas Williams and >Phillipa Bake. John married Ann Goninnan Cruett in Bodmin in 1840, and our >family story says that he was expelled out of Cornwall and England to Canada >sometime after he married, but before 1844. Is there any way to find out >what John was involved in to be deported to Canada? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Lynda > > > > > >------------------------------- >Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > >Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    08/05/2010 04:43:53
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] FW: Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch - how to report errors NOT
    2. Hi Everyone - I'm red-faced. Yes we can report problems - and they want us to do so - but they're NOT fixing "individual" records, according to their "feedback" form. They will, however, fix the biggies - the lady who reported the incorrect town did get a reply saying they [LDS] were checking her report. The gentleman I spoke to thought they were taking individual reports, or so he said last evening. Guess he was wrong, or I heard what I wanted to hear. Hopefully, they will add that function at a later date, but who knows. They're probably busy getting images online just now - and that's going to take years, considering it's the entire world!!! All my best, Julia (who is now going to retire to her humble hole, and cease sending incorrect info!!) Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org From: jwmos99@msn.com To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch - how to report errors Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 21:08:39 -0500 Hi Everyone - Rowena asked > Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 18:50:21 +1000 > From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch > - St. Austell area > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > > I have a question with this. Have just done a few look-ups, and I agree it's > wonderful to see some information that has been hard to find thus far, the > odd parish which doesn't have information on the OPC site, etc. > > Where there is a miss-spelling (found an obvious one) can there be a request > to have it checked or changed, and where would one make that request? For > instance the surname "Vining" is spelt "Vininy", for a St Ives Shugg and > Vining marriage. > > I also noticed a marriage which only had a year date, which I'm sure I've > seen a full date for. > > Rowena I suspect our problems are originating from the fact that there are 2 sections of the Pilot; one section has the original images (which are limited in some cases) under "Search our Collection" on the main page, AND an "individual search" function on the top of the main page. If someone uses the individual search on top, there are transcribed records returned. Some of these are in error, as Rowena noted. (Actually, lots of them are - one lady found that over 100 records from Kent showed the wrong town, because 2 different places were on one film!!!) The good news is that LDS DEFINITELY IS accepting "error reports" for these - and they've promised to act on them. I was contacted by a lady today who told me about other errors that are being corrected, so the process is working. Just don't expect quick answers!!

    08/05/2010 03:36:15
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch - how to report errors
    2. Hi Everyone - Rowena asked > Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 18:50:21 +1000 > From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch > - St. Austell area > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > > I have a question with this. Have just done a few look-ups, and I agree it's > wonderful to see some information that has been hard to find thus far, the > odd parish which doesn't have information on the OPC site, etc. > > Where there is a miss-spelling (found an obvious one) can there be a request > to have it checked or changed, and where would one make that request? For > instance the surname "Vining" is spelt "Vininy", for a St Ives Shugg and > Vining marriage. > > I also noticed a marriage which only had a year date, which I'm sure I've > seen a full date for. > > Rowena I suspect our problems are originating from the fact that there are 2 sections of the Pilot; one section has the original images (which are limited in some cases) under "Search our Collection" on the main page, AND an "individual search" function on the top of the main page. If someone uses the individual search on top, there are transcribed records returned. Some of these are in error, as Rowena noted. (Actually, lots of them are - one lady found that over 100 records from Kent showed the wrong town, because 2 different places were on one film!!!) The good news is that LDS DEFINITELY IS accepting "error reports" for these - and they've promised to act on them. I was contacted by a lady today who told me about other errors that are being corrected, so the process is working. Just don't expect quick answers!! <VBG> If you look at the very top line of the main page, there are choices listed. Choose the one about "Reply to us" or "Feedback - Errors" from the drop-down menu, and keep your message to 1 to 2 sentences, and very clear. I've spoken to a gentleman who's working on this, and he said they didn't tend to spend much time on "wordy", hard to understand complaints. 'Course, they're very, very busy just now!! But he's elated, and so is his team, over getting it online, and they do want it to be correct. They need to know where the correct information originated - so please be sure to mention your source. Of course, as others have said, the original images in the collection can't be changed, but they're wonderful because they do show researchers what was recorded, and sometimes carry original signatures, etc. They also contain original "mistakes" as well!! (as we all groan over vicars who couldn't spell, etc.) As for a marriage with only a year, perhaps the original was torn, and your record came from a Bishop's Transcript? There could be several different explanations. Hope everyone enjoys the new resource!! Julia Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org

    08/05/2010 03:08:39
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. October 10, 1851. B.M.D.'s
    2. Clare Pascoe
    3. They did it on purpose to confuse us genealogists, Joy! :-) Clare Joy Hungerford wrote: > > > > Hi Listers > > >> At Ventorden, in the parish of Stokeclimsland, on the 2nd instant, Mr. James HAWTON, aged 85 years. > I think this may be my 4GG Uncle, but I'm a bit confused - or else the stonemason, working later, was, as this was what appeared on his headstone:- > > Sacred to the memory Mary, wifeof James Hawton ofVenterdon in this parishwho died May 26 1843aged 74 years > James Hawtonfor 50 yrsParish Clerk of thisParish who died Oct 2nd 1853 aged 86 yearsHis upright and humbledemeanour caused him universal respect > > Many thanks to William and all other transcribers of the West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. > Kind regards > joy > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    08/05/2010 01:15:18
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch - St. Austell area
    2. Rowena Gough
    3. I have a question with this. Have just done a few look-ups, and I agree it's wonderful to see some information that has been hard to find thus far, the odd parish which doesn't have information on the OPC site, etc. Where there is a miss-spelling (found an obvious one) can there be a request to have it checked or changed, and where would one make that request? For instance the surname "Vining" is spelt "Vininy", for a St Ives Shugg and Vining marriage. I also noticed a marriage which only had a year date, which I'm sure I've seen a full date for. Rowena -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jwmos99@msn.com Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2010 9:18 AM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com; cornish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch - St. Austell area Hi All - I've been indexing/transcribing the St. Austell, Charlestown, and Treverbyn church/parish registers, knowing that the images would be put on FamilySearch, but not knowing when. So I'm not quite done!! Sorry for that - will keep on until the baptisms are complete, at least. (And then will finish burials, if there's a need.) Right now, Baptisms are from 1632 to 1775 (I'm uploading the last bit tonight) and from 1813 to 1850. Marriages are done from 1565 to 1900, and the early years of burials aren't done. I don't have any municipal cemetery records, unfortunately. People can use the database on the St. Austell website to search for individuals, either by year or using the search function on the main page (so by name), finding the appropriate entry, then if they want to, they can look at the originals on FamilySearch; many of the marriages have family signatures, etc. that can be of interest. I've tried to include the parish register page numbers to help identify which image you'll need to view. LDS has received copies of many of my transcriptions, so they'll soon have an index to go along with the original images as well. The best thing is that the St. Austell website has LOTS of "supporting" information, such as the tithe map index from 1841 - which is a record of all owners, lessees and residents of land in the parish. There is also information from various taxes (such as hearth) and transcriptions of various Directories that might prove helpful, too. Hopefully, it's worth a look. It's great to have the original registers online; you can check questionable entries for yourself, and puzzle over various entries that perplexed the transcriber[s] - LDS deserves a huge "thank you"!!!! Cheers, Julia Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org I'm a volunteer for FreeCens - why don't you join, too? > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 07:43:23 -1000 > From: Fran?ois Stuart <stuartgenealogie@gmail.com> > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Cornwall Parish Registers now online at > FamilySearch Record Search > To: CORNISH-GEN@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTikfw-LLtvRgaBAAv0z63NhX+SArR828XWdmtz=Q@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello everybody- > > I just wanted to pass on the news that the parish registers of the > county of Cornwall have been put online at FamilySearch Record Search > here: > > http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=waypoint&s=wa... > > These parish registers have not been indexed and will have to be > searched manually image by image. > > Best regards, > > -Fran?ois > Sorry, it appears that the list cut off the url I had attached to my > previous message. > To get to the parish registers, > > 1. Go to http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start > 2. Then, click "Search or Browse our record collections" and then > click "Browse Collections" > 3. Scroll down until you see the heading "England, United Kingdom" and > the link should be there right underneath it > ------------------------------- Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2010 12:50:21
    1. [CORNISH-GEN] WEBSITES OF INTEREST - LINKS
    2. Diane Donohue
    3. The following are websites that provide links to various websites. www.ukbmd.org.uk UK Births,Mges,Deaths etc www.ukgdl.org.uk UK Genealogical Directories,Lists etc www.ukmfh.org.uk UK Military Family History etc The websites themselves are free to search but some of the links may charge. You will have to check the websites yourselves to see what there is on offer - too much to list here. Diane Kerrier-St Keverne,Manaccan,St Anthony Meneage Penwith-Perranuthnoe,Zennor http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/

    08/05/2010 11:42:47
    1. Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch -St. Austell area
    2. Chris Uphill
    3. Hi Rowena & All Rowena - I think not. These are original images from the Parish Registers, and very fine it is too to see them on-line. Regards Chris Uphill -----Original Message----- From: cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cornish-gen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rowena Gough Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2010 4:50 PM To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Parish Registers now online at FamilySearch -St. Austell area I have a question with this. Have just done a few look-ups, and I agree it's wonderful to see some information that has been hard to find thus far, the odd parish which doesn't have information on the OPC site, etc. Where there is a miss-spelling (found an obvious one) can there be a request to have it checked or changed, and where would one make that request? For instance the surname "Vining" is spelt "Vininy", for a St Ives Shugg and Vining marriage. I also noticed a marriage which only had a year date, which I'm sure I've seen a full date for. Rowena without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2010 11:31:22