West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 14th November, 1851. Part One. THE NEWSPAPERS PRINTED IN CORNWALL - A return has recently been made to Parliament and printed with the evidence taken before the Select Committee of the House of Commons on Newspaper Stamps showing the number of stamps issued to every newspaper in Great Britain and Ireland, for fourteen years ending December last. From it we gather that the number of Stamps issued during that time was:- West Briton...1,548,000. Cornwall Gazette...717, 433. Penzance Gazette...208,577. The number issued during the past year, 1850, to each paper was:- West Briton...132,500. Cornwall Gazette...65,000. Penzance Gazette...9,257. It is scarcely necessary for us to make any comment on these figures, but they sufficiently prove that the circulation of the West Briton is nearly double that of the other papers printed in Cornwall added together. These statistical facts must speak for themselves; and Advertisers will soon discover through what channel their notices should pass to obtain a large amount of publicity. FALMOUTH BAPTIST CHURCH - The Rev. J. JACKSON, who for the last four years has been the minister of the Baptist church and congregation in Webber Street chapel, Falmouth, has received an address from the Board of Missions to take the superintendence of the Christian church and establishment in the important city of Agra, Northern India, which with the district, comprises a population of about 100,000 inhabitants. This gentleman, whose talents and preaching qualifications are of a high order, leaves the neighbourhood deeply regretted by a flourishing church and congregation, and carrying with him the respect of the religious public in general. WESLEYAN MISSIONS - A missionary meeting was held in the Wesleyan Chapel, Ponsanooth, on Thursday evening the 6th instant, Mr. J. LANYON, of Camborne, in the chair. The attentive congregation heard with delight the interesting statements of facts connected with the Wesleyan Mission in the West Indies, where the narrator, the Rev. J. BIGGS has laboured for twenty-one years. The importance of endeavouring to accelerate the divine work of Christian missions was dwelt upon in earnest addresses by the Rev. L. WATERHOUSE, of Falmouth, Mr. G. HAGEN, of St. Day, and Mr. B. BROWNE of Carharrack. ELECTIONS OF MAYORS - PENZANCE. The Mayor and most of the corporation had previously attended divine service in St. Mary's church. After the clock had struck twelve Mr. R. V. DAVY proposed Mr. R. PEARCE, for the office of Mayor. The motion was seconded by Mr. W. D. MATHEWS, and Mr. Pearce was at once unanimously elected. The usual annual dinner of the Town Council took place on the same day, at the Western Hotel. The new mayor was in the chair, and the town clerk Mr. E. H. RODD, acted as vice president. The party numbered about forty. The banquet was of the most elegant character; the hilarity of the evening was well sustained; and the proceedings passed off with much eclat. HELSTON - On Monday last, Mr. THOMAS ROGERS was elected mayor for the ensuing year, and on Tuesday Mr. GLYNN GRYLLS, the ex-mayor, gave the usual feast to the members of the corporation, at the Angel Inn. PENRYN - On Monday last, Mr. J. MEAD was elected mayor of this town for the ensuing year. FALMOUTH - On Monday last, a meeting of the council was held, when the whole of the members were present, with one exception. On proceeding to a poll for the Mayor, the numbers were equal for Mr. CUTTANCE and Mr. ELLIS, when the late mayor was desired to give the casting vote, but begged to be relieved from the awkwardness of choosing his successor. It as then resolved to have a new election, when Mr. Ellis had eight votes and Mr. Cuttance five. Mr. Ellis was consequently installed as mayor. Mr. BROUGHAM moved a vote of thanks to the retiring may, seconded by Mr. CORNISH, and supported by Mr. ROBERT BROAD, to which the ex-may responded. Mr. Ellis addressed the council, and said he hoped to fill the office to the best of his abilities, and to make himself useful to the interests of the town. The other business of the quarterly meeting was then transacted. BODMIN - On Monday last, Mr. WILLIAM SERJEANT was elected Mayor of Bodmin for the ensuing year. LISKEARD - Mr. BERNARD ANSTIS has been elected Mayor of this borough for the ensuing year. GREAT WHEAL ALFRED - A splendid engine of 90-inch cylinder, constructed at the factory of Messrs. HARVEY and CO., Hayle Foundry, was set to work on this mine, on Wednesday last, under the superintendency of Mr. S. GROSE, C.E., in the presence of a vast concourse of spectators, who appeared highly gratified with the proceedings on the occasion, some of whom could well remember the former working, which yielded such immense profits to the adventurers. The day was generally observed as a holiday throughout the neighbourhood, and a dinner was provided on the spot for the whole of the tradesmen and labourers belonging to the mine. A large party of the adventurers, agents, and their friends, dined together at Alfred Consols, the counting-house of Great Wheal Alfred being in course of repair. During the day Phillack church bells rang several merry peals, and in the evening there was a beautiful display of fire works, with bonfires, tar barrels, &c. A ball at Treglisson House, the residence of Mr. RICHARD NICHOLLS, closed the proceedings of this highly interesting and long-to-be-remembered day. It is to be hoped that this great undertaking will be crowned with abundant success. CARADON WOOD MINING COMPANY - On Monday the 3rd instant, a new water wheel 30 feet diameter, by 10 1/4 feet breast was put in operation on this mine, and on the following Saturday the mine was visited by the principal shareholders and several of the agents of mines in the district. The wheel works excellently, and the operations are progressing expeditiously. The engine-shaft is down about 11 fathoms, and it is intended to sink 30 fathoms under the adit, or nearly 40 fathoms from surface before cross-cutting to the main lode. There are several north and south and east and west lodes; the western one of the former being a very large strong lode, with a leader of flucan about 2 feet wide, in which very fine granular lead has been found at 12 or 15 feet below the surface. Owing to the easy nature of the ground, the shaft can be sunk about 6 fathoms a month, and the water power being ample, the expenses will be comparatively small. In the evening an excellent dinner was provided at Webb's hotel, Liskeard, when the chair was filled by Mr. J. H. MURCHISON, and there were also present Mr. ARTHUR DEAN, agent for Sir WILLIAM TRELAWNY, and many captains of mines. LONGEVITY - There is now living in the parish of St. Enoder an old farmer who has seen ninety-five summers, and who has farmed a large estate, and conducted his own affairs for the last seventy-one years. He still continues to attend the fairs and markets of the locality, and thinks no more of riding a dozen miles to sell many bushels of corn, than he did some three or four dozen years ago. At tithe audits, rent dinners, and other parochial meetings, he is an invariable attendant, and on all occasions seems to enter into convivialities with as much zest as the most happy juvenile. COMMITTAL - On Monday last, two men of Mevagissey, named CHARLES HAMBLY RAWLING, and WILLIAM MORRICE, were brought before Sir J. S. G. SAWLE, Bart., and Mr. E. COODE, jun., charged with poaching at Heligan, the seat of Mr. TREMAYNE, They were committed to gaol, for three month's hard labour. CORONERS' INQUESTS - The following inquest was held before Mr. JOHN CARLYON, county coroner; On Wednesday last, at East Wheal Rose mine, on the body of ROBERT SLEEMAN, aged 45 years. The deceased was a small farmer and maltster, of Newquay, and had [part?] of a contract for delivering coals at East Wheal [Rose?] mine, to which place there is a railroad from Newquay. On Tuesday last, he sent a couple of wagons laden with coals to the mine, and accompanied the driver himself for the purpose of assisting him in unloading the wagons and applying the drag when necessary. From the entrance to the mine by the railway to the coal yard there is a slight ascent, and immediately outside the yard wall, there is a curve in the line, on rounding which the wagons pass almost close to the wall. A few yards before the horses arrived at this spot, they stopped, and deceased applied the drag; after they had rested a short time, he told the driver to put them on again, which he did, and whilst deceased was attending to the drag, the waggon arrived at the narrow part of the curve and his head and shoulders were crushed between the wall and the waggon, and he was killed on the spot. Verdict, "accidental death." An inquest was held at the London Inn, Liskeard, on Friday the 7th inst., before Mr. GILBERT HAMLEY, deputy coroner, upon the body of JOHN [HA.....?], a carpenter in Wheal Gill Mine, St. Cleer, who was killed on the preceding day. It appeared from the evidence that deceased, with several others, were rolling the boiler, which was a very heavy one, up an acclivity, and that while the deceased was in the act of placing a stone beneath it, to prevent it slipping, a rope which was attached thereto broke, and the boiler rolling over the man's head, killed him on the spot. No blame, it appears, is attachable to anyone. Verdict "accidental death."

G'day listers, I am reposting with additional information, seeking links with Lucy the following daughter of, William SMITH bapt 28 Apr 1828 Quethiock and Jane FACEY 1829 St Germans, married 23 Jan 1853 Quethiock. Lucy SMITH Quethiock 1865 married Alfred BREEN a Bootmaker's Lab born abt 1866 Bigbury, Devon Children of Lucy and Alfred Enid BREEN Plymouth Devon 1898 Thelma G A BREEN 1900 Horace BREEN 1905 Torpoint, Cornwall The above (except last two children) are found in the 1901 census RG13 / 2187 at Antony, Torpoint. The 1911 census shows the family at 8 Waterloo Street,Torpoint, Cornwall, except for the child Thelma G A : who has died along with another unknown sibling. Alfred's occupation is Boilermaker's Assistant. Hilda HILL born Launceston, Cornwall a single female, is a visitor to the household. My SMITH line at Quethiock is from Samuel SMITH circa 1763 married at Quethiock 1 Apr 1785 Grace DONEY bapt 24 Nov 1765 North Hill Cornwall. Regards Peter in Timaru, South Island, New Zealand OPC Quethiock Cornwall

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 7th November, 1851. MEVAGISSEY - A House and Shop to Let, now in the occupation of Mrs. E. SCANTLEBURY. The Premises are in a good situation, and well adapted for the Drapery and Grocery trades, for which purpose they have for many years been occupied. For particulars apply to JOSIAH KITTO, Mevagissey. Dated Nov 5, 1851. TEETOTALISM - A public meeting was held on Monday last at Bodmin, which was attended by Mr. ADDLESHAW, the county agent. The attendance was respectable, and the attention and applause marked. Some signatures were taken, and a considerable quantity of Livesey's cheap tracts were sold at the close. BIRTHS, MARRIAGES, AND DEATHS - From the Registrar General's returns from the various districts of England, it appears that the marriages still exceed the average, but are less numerous than the marriages in the corresponding quarter of last year. The births continue to increase rapidly, and the mortality is below the average; the returns therefore present a favourable view of the state of the country. Amongst those counties in which the marriages have increased, Cornwall is included. The Registrar General remarks that the observation has been made that the marriages increase after a fatal epidemic; and in the present returns the marriages are seen to have been in excess generally where cholera was most fatal in 1849. There have been 150,584 births registered in the past quarter ending September 30th, which is the greatest number ever registered in the same season of the year. During the same quarter 91,600 persons died, leaving an excess of 58,984 in the population. There is a great deal of emigration, but the Registrar General remarks that up to a late period there has been a constant immigration of the Irish and Scotch into England, which appears to have been fully equivalent to the emigration of the English into the colonies and to foreign parts; but no exact statistical information on this subject exists. The Registrar General remarks that "the South Western Division, with the exception of Cornwall, was healthier than is usual. Scarlatina and diarrhoea prevailed in Plymouth and Stoke Damarel. Scarlatina was the chief cause of the high mortality in Cornwall. Smallpox has also been there. Dysentery is now prevailing at St. Ives. In the Penzance sub-district the deaths exceeded the births registered; and sanatory measures are so grossly neglected by the inhabitants, that fifty-seven of their children have died of small-pox, which is still prevailing." The returns from Cornwall show that the deaths registered in the past quarter ending September 30th, were 1,814; in the same quarter of 1850, the number was 1,376. EMIGRATION - From the Registrar General's report it appears that 85,603 emigrants left the ports of the United Kingdom at which there are government emigration officers in the quarter ending September 30th, 1851. This is at the rate of 930 a day; 6,510 a week. 13,963 sailed from Irish ports, 4,378 from Glasgow and Greenock, and 67,262 from three English ports; namely, 10,062 from London, 2,799 from Plymouth, and 54,401 from Liverpool. Many of the Irish emigrants are returned at Liverpool. Of the total number 68,960 emigrants sailed to the United States, 9,268 to British North America, 6,097 to the Australian Colonies, and 1,278 to other places. The emigration has hitherto been greater in 1851 than it was in the corresponding quarters of 1850. The Registrar General observes that the present movement of the population is in many respects remarkable. The free admission of grain, fruit, and meat, since the scarcity is equivalent to an addition to the country of a vast tract of fertile soil, which calls for cultivators, and, as the land is abroad, for agricultural emigrants who prefer the cheap though distant lands of America to the high-rented farms of Ireland, no longer possessing a monopoly for its produce in the English market. The fact deserves attention, that while the United kingdom has been importing food in unprecedented quantities, it has been sending out swarms of emigrants from the population, of which the marriages and births promise to keep up a perpetual and increasing supply. Mr. CROWDER - The Bristol papers announce that Mr. Crowder, Q.C., the member for Liskeard, will be appointed to the puisne judgeship in the Court of Queen's Bench, to be rendered vacant by the resignation of Mr. Justice PATTESON. GRAYS INN - At a pension of the honourable society of Grays Inn, holden on Wednesday last, Mr. WILLIAM VOSPER, of Stoke Cottage, Devonport, and Mr. JOSEPH TAYLOR, of Overton House, near Wakefield, in the county of York, were called to the degree of barrister at law. At the same pension Mr. WALTER COULSON, one of the recently appointed Queen's Counsel, took his seat as a Bencher of the society. PENZANCE - The silver medal of the Royal National Institution for the preservation of lives from shipwreck, was unanimously voted on Thursday last, to Mr. RICHARD PEARCE, of Penzance, "In appreciation of his humanity and intrepidity in having gone off, and always taking the lead, to upwards of forty wrecked vessels, and thereby being instrumental, under Divine Providence, in having assisted to save a large number of lives; with the fervent wish of the committee that he may long live to wear the medal, to stimulate others to emulate his laudable example." PENDENNIS CASTLE - On Wednesday last, the detachment of the 77th Regiment doing Garrison duty at Pendennis, was replaced by a detachment of the 79th, from Plymouth, the former being about to proceed to Cork. MR. KEY'S HOUNDS - On Monday week, Mr. HART KEY's hounds proceeded to Vyell's Park, where they soon unkennelled Mr. Reynard, very much to the delight of a large field, and after a splendid day's sport they succeeded in killing a brace of foxes. After the sports of the field, about thirty gentlemen sat down to an excellent dinner provided by Mr. THOMAS, at the Commercial Hotel, Wadebridge, at which Mr. SAMUEL POLLARD presided, and Mr. JAMES ARNEY HICK acted as vice-chairman. After the usual loyal and other toasts, the chairman, in an appropriate speech, proposed the health of their guest, Mr. Key, and further stated that it occurred to him and a few of his friends a short time since that Mr. Key was entitled to some mark of esteem for his kindness on all occasions in affording them such excellent sport; he had therefore much pleasure in presenting him with a silver hunting horn, on which was engraved; "A small token of esteem presented to Hart Key, by a few of his sporting companions, 1851." Mr. Key's health was then drunk with the best feeling, to which he replied in his usual happy style. The evening was spent in the greatest harmony, and the songs and glees greatly contributed to the enjoyment of the party which broke up about twelve o'clock. SALVAGE - We understand that Messrs. FRANCIS BANFIELD and SONS, the agents to the underwriters of Hamburg at Scilly, have offered on behalf of their principals, the salvors of the hull and cargo of the Neapolitan brig "San Giorgio," towed into that port on the 25th of September last, the sum of GBP2,000 for salvage of the 219 casks towed in with the hull; GBP15 per ton for about thirty tons picked up at sea, and GBP110 for the hull, altogether about GBP2,500, which offer the salvors have accepted. Messrs. Francis Banfield and Sons have been recently appointed agents to the French Lloyds, and also to the underwriters of Paris at Scilly. ST. AUSTELL PETTY SESSIONS - These sessions were held in the town-hall, on Tuesday last, before a full bench of magistrates when WILLIAM SNELL of St. Stephens, was fined GBP1 and costs, for riding on his waggon and driving without any reins. Mr. THOMAS GROSE, draper, of St. Austell, was fined 5s. and costs for leaving his goods on the causeway. WALTER GUMMOE was convicted of being drunk and breaking the peace, and bound over in GBP10 with two sureties to keep the peace for the next six months. JAMES RICKARD was committed for one month, for refusing to pay towards the maintenance of an illegitimate child. ROBBERY - On Friday evening last as a person named WILLIAM RICHARDS was returning home from St. Austell, he was met by several persons one of whom (a woman) asked him to treat her with some drink and in the mean time robbed him of GBP1. 7s. Information was given to the police who succeeded in taking ELIZABETH BAMFIELD, HENRY ARTHUR, THOMAS WATSON, BARTLETT PASCOE, and MARTHA ABBOT. On the following morning, they were brought before Messrs. SAWLE and E. COODE, jun., when the three former were set at liberty and the two latter committed to take their trial at the next sessions. CORONER'S INQUEST - On Friday last, an inquest was held before Mr. ROUS PENDER, coroner for Falmouth, on the body of THOMAS HICKS, mate of the schooner "Argyle," then lying in the harbour. From the evidence of the master, JOHN LEWIS, it appeared that the vessel arrived from Hamburg the day before, and in the evening he left the ship in charge of the mate who said he was not coming on shore. He was seen however on the market strand about half-past seven, and was going towards the Duke of Kent Inn, at the back of which the boat must have been lying. In the morning of Friday, the boat was picked up on the rocks near Fish Strand, and the deceased's hat and one oar near Mulberry square steps, and about one o'clock of the same day the body of deceased was found at the back of the quay near Britton's yard. It was supposed deceased who was a little tipsy when last seen must have been skulling off to his ship and fell overboard. Verdict "found drowned." Deceased was a Welchman aged 64 years.

Thank you Judy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Upton" <judithupton@aol.com> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Specifying sources (was Re:CornwallParishRegistersnow online atFamilySearch Record Search) > Ann > > Why do you need to? Just save a copy of the page to your computer. There > is a Save function above the image. Click it and a folder on your > computer > will open. Mine opens in My Picutres, but you can browse to wherever you > want it to go. > > Give your image a title ie Mar Cert of xxxx and xxx in xxx AND ADD FILE > EXTENSION .jpeg (that's full stop jpeg) > > so it might read > Mar Cert John Doe and Peggy smith.jpeg > > and click save. > > Hey presto - no more paying for Church of England Cornish Marriage > Certificates in some parishes at least. > > Have fun! > > Judith > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Davenport" <daveport@mweb.co.za> > To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Specifying sources (was Re: > CornwallParishRegistersnow online atFamilySearch Record Search) > > >> Can one order copies of the original entries from LDS? >> Ann Davenport >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sunday 15 August 2010 03:16:24 Michael Kiernan wrote: > My I suggest that both sources (and any others- even if these only act as a > confirmation) sources are cited. > A source of data is exactly that - where you obtained the data. If it is a primary source such as a parish register then that is different from an image of those registers such as those on the LDS pilot site. The reason that they are separate sources is that they are from different repositories. I know this sounds very technical, but when you are quoting sources you have to be precise so that others can check your data and those same people can have confidence in the data. Some sources are obviously better than others. A transcription, being a secondary source is not going to be as reliable as the primary source itself. The other good example is that a Bishop's Transcript is a secondary source which on occasions can be better than the original register because they were often kept in better conditions than the original register and did not suffer as much from moisture damage as the original. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

G'day listers, loking for relatives of Stanley SMITH bapt 25 Jan 1885 Quethiock, son of Emma Jane SMITH bapt 16 Sep 1869 Weslyan Church Liskeard. In the 1911 census Stanley age 25 is living at Quethiock with his Grandmother Jane SMITH nee FACEY age 80 Regards Peter Timaru South Island New Zealand pjsmith@farmside.co.nz

G'day listers looking for a connection to Mark SMITH bapt Liskeard 5 Jan 1872 son of William and Jane FACEY. Mark and his wife Ann unknown had the following children. Laura SMITH 1905 Plymouth Devon William SMITH 1906 Liskeard Cornwall Albert SMITH 1907 Liskeard Cornwall Eliza SMITH 1909 Liskeard Cornwall In the 1911 census all the family are at Lime Kiln Cottage Liskeard Regards Peter in Timaru,South Island, New Zealand

G'day listers looking for relatives of Eva SMITH 1867 Quethiock married William HIGGS of Menheniot 1870 at Quethiock 20 Apr 1893. Eva was daughter of William SMITH and Jane FACEY William was son of William and Margaret HIGGS Child of Eva and William Harry HIGGS 1888 Quethiock Regards Peter Timaru, South Island, New Zealand pjsmith@farmside.co.nz

G'day listers, I am seeking links with the following daughter of William SMITH 1828 and Jane FACEY 1829 St Germans. Lucy SMITH Quethiock 1865 married Alfred BREEN a Bootmaker's Lab born abt 1866 Bybury Children of Lucy and Alfred Enid BREEN Plymouth Devon 1898 Thelma G BREEN 1900 Horace BREEN 1905 The above (except last two children) are found in the 1901 census RG13 / 2187 at Antony, Torpoint Regards Peter in Timaru, South Island, New Zealand

G'day listers, I have a relative Sarah Ann SMITH,1861 Quethiock daughter of William SMITH 1828 of Quethiock and Jane FACEY 1829 of St Germans. Sarah Ann married Thomas SANDERCOCK 20 Nov 1883 at Quethiock. Children of Sarah and Thomas William H SANDERCOCK born St Germans abt 1890 Rhoda I SANDERCOCK born St Germans abt 1894 Percy SANDERCOCK born St Cleer abt 1897 (H)edleigh SANDERCOCK born St Cleer abt 1899 The family at Highpark, St Cleer for 1901,ref RG 13 / 2192 and 1911 census Kind regards Peter , in Timaru, South Island, New Zealand. pjsmith@farmside.co.nz

Dear Listers, Malcolm has nearly finished transcribing the 2000 documents in his collection with the help of his band of volunteers. These are free to all who want them and the latest alphabetical index of the people who can be found in them is here http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Records/malc_index/intro.pdf. You really should take a look as they contain names from all over Cornwall and Devon and other places from the late 16th century to almost the mid 20th century. There are Wills, marriage settlements, land indentures, letters, school log books, tithes etc. An email to Malcolm gets you the transcript. He also has jpegs of a lot of the original documents if you want to see where the transcript came from. Regards, Susan in Wadebridge CFHS 9508 OPC for St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan & St Columb Major Parish Reconstruction up to 1891 on St Merryn, St Ervan, St Eval, St Mawgan, Padstow, St Issey, Little Petherick, St Wenn, Withiel, Egloshayle, St Breock, St Columb Major & Minor, Newlyn East, St Kew, St Mabyn & St Tudy http://cornwall-opc.org/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3073 - Release Date: 08/15/10 07:35:00

Ann Why do you need to? Just save a copy of the page to your computer. There is a Save function above the image. Click it and a folder on your computer will open. Mine opens in My Picutres, but you can browse to wherever you want it to go. Give your image a title ie Mar Cert of xxxx and xxx in xxx AND ADD FILE EXTENSION .jpeg (that's full stop jpeg) so it might read Mar Cert John Doe and Peggy smith.jpeg and click save. Hey presto - no more paying for Church of England Cornish Marriage Certificates in some parishes at least. Have fun! Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Davenport" <daveport@mweb.co.za> To: <cornish-gen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Specifying sources (was Re: CornwallParishRegistersnow online atFamilySearch Record Search) > Can one order copies of the original entries from LDS? > Ann Davenport > ------------------------------- > Listmom: ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can one order copies of the original entries from LDS? Ann Davenport

Isn't this getting too complicated? Given that the current pilot site contains photographic images of the original documents, then surely the source is those primary documents. All you then need do is to record the particular register, the Page and Entry Number, and, for ease of reference, where they were found, i.e. the pilot site (the URL) or the Cornwall Record Office (the fiche number), or wherever else they were found. Hoping that helps, Tom Thompson, St Agnes.

Sorry for sending that personal message to everyone. I missed something in the address line! N.D. Nicol

Hello Luke, I hope you're having a nice weekend and that you and Eleanor enjoyed the athletics Friday evening. They were live on TV, so I did see some of the events. Richard Ashton turns out to be quite a character and we had a good time. His daughter, Rosie, had come back from Nova Scotia, where she lives, to spend some time in London with him before returning to medical school, where she is a student. She's a lively and charming young lady. I didn't get back to Oxford until after midnight! Richard did give me the photocopies of the pertinent pages from Broome's book and I can give them to you tomorrow if you wish. I also want to give the bag of coins back to you as well. Let me know when might be convenient. Now, I have to get going as I have an eye exam at Boot's today. See you whenever, Doug

There was a letter to the Daily Telegraph that pointed out that A CORNISHMAN is an anagram of ANACHRONISM Thought you might be interested to know that.

My I suggest that both sources (and any others- even if these only act as a confirmation) sources are cited. Perhaps in order of veracity. Thus the first citation would be the location and ref. identification of the actual original document (perhaps a CRO ref.). The second citation would be the ref. details of the source from which you obtained that 'transcription' or viewed a copy of that document (in this case a Family Search ref.). There is some actual wonderful information being posted on various web sites that enables us to search parish registers, census records, GRO etc. but because sources are not always set out it is sometimes difficult to work out whether the effort is based upon an individuals own effort at transcribing the original document (sometimes not even citing which document was used - eg was it Bishops transcript of the original Parish Record? let alone the location of the document or the copy used for the transcribing). With all the problems this involves or whether the the results are from putting into the database a transcribed copy of the work of some one else (say Phillimore or other well known publication, or merely lifted from another database found on the web) there will probably always be mistakes. So the original document remains top of the pile. May I suggest a copy of the original document (with a note of where it was obtained from) must remain at the top of sources quoted and available on our family files. Recently, many original documents have become avaliable for viewing (and for saving on our own computers) both on pay for view sites (eg Ancestery) or for free (eg FreeBMD). Those on FamilySearch are another leap forward. Perhaps, as the technology developes, this will become a positive whirlwind of sources. Mike, Redruth.

I would say this is the same data but I have no idea why they have 3 transcriptions - if you look at the information about the 3 collections they all say the same thing i.e. that they were transcribed from microfilm of the original documents.  The difference in the date looks as if is a mistranscription.  If you look at the original image on familysearch Pilot site you can see why the transcribers were unsure as to whether it was the 4th or 9th.  I think it is a 9.  The entry is on Image 28.  At least now the images are available we can check! Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Meli <melibob4@texasbb.com> To: cornish-gen@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 14 August, 2010 17:57:02 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Possible duplicates on pilot.familysearch.org ? Howdy, Fellow Researchers: In searching for HUGH  DONNITHORNE  on familysearch.org, I find these 3 records referenced.  What is the possibility that these 3 Hughs are the same?  [  I have deleted categories that had no info posted to save space.] And, assuming they are recording the same Hugh, to what do you attribute the small differences in the information?  Thanks to all for all your postings all the time!  I love it here!        Meli in Texas Name: Hugh Donnithorne Baptism/Christening Date: 04 Sep 1753 Baptism/Christening Place: Truro, Cornwall, England Father's Name: William Donnithorne    Mother's Name: Jane Donnithorne Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02095-2  System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 226222 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Hugh Donnithorne Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Sep 1753 Baptism/Christening Place: TRURO,CORNWALL,ENGLAND Father's Name: William Donnithorne      Mother's Name: Jane Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00963-1    System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 226224 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Hugh Donnithorne Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Sep 1753 Baptism/Christening Place: St. Mary's, Truro, Cornwall, England Father's Name: William Donnithorne Mother's Name: Jane Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02095-1      System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 226222 Reference Number: yr 1737-1756 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 ------------------------------- Listmom:  ybowers@gmail.com or CORNISH-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CORNISH-GEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Howdy, Fellow Researchers: In searching for HUGH DONNITHORNE on familysearch.org, I find these 3 records referenced. What is the possibility that these 3 Hughs are the same? [ I have deleted categories that had no info posted to save space.] And, assuming they are recording the same Hugh, to what do you attribute the small differences in the information? Thanks to all for all your postings all the time! I love it here! Meli in Texas Name: Hugh Donnithorne Baptism/Christening Date: 04 Sep 1753 Baptism/Christening Place: Truro, Cornwall, England Father's Name: William Donnithorne Mother's Name: Jane Donnithorne Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02095-2 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 226222 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Hugh Donnithorne Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Sep 1753 Baptism/Christening Place: TRURO,CORNWALL,ENGLAND Father's Name: William Donnithorne Mother's Name: Jane Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00963-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 226224 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Hugh Donnithorne Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Sep 1753 Baptism/Christening Place: St. Mary's, Truro, Cornwall, England Father's Name: William Donnithorne Mother's Name: Jane Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02095-1 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 226222 Reference Number: yr 1737-1756 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975