Hi Peter I had gone with the same Jane THOMAS for the wife of William VINCENT and had to change my tree too! Can I bother you about Mary RULE while I'm on this THOMAS clan? You have Mary the daughter of John RULE and Mary PERKING (baptised 29 Mar 1725) as the wife of John THOMAS, marrying in 1760. I know you must have your reasons. There are researchers out there who think that John THOMAS actually married a much younger Mary RULE, the daughter of Henry RULE and Mary BORLASE, baptised on 28 Mar 1742. I think whichever Mary RULE it is, we get quickly back to the same ancestry, as John RULE (b 1694) is a half-brother of Henry (b 1710/11). Naming patterns do suggest it is the older Mary (she had a brother called Stephen, a name appearing in the next THOMAS generation). And of course her last child is born in 1766, which would be early if it is the younger Mary. Have you any other thoughts that would make this more conclusive? As for the identity of John THOMAS, husband of Mary RULE, one feels very little hope.... all the best Tony Tony Bennett Cheshire, UK -----Original Message----- From: Peter J Williams <[email protected]> To: cornish-gen <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:41 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] THOMAS of Camborne wills from Tony Bennett Hi Tony and all Tony, you are a legend. Many thanks for posting the THOMAS wills. It helped me to eliminate a "possible" connection that I had earlier considered. I have corrected my THOMAS of Camborne tree, which can be seen at: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~peterpjw/FHthomascamborne.html That possible connection was that my Jane THOMAS bapt 19 May 1766 at Camborne may have been the one who married William VINCENT, but the will you posted disproves that. Earlier, I had included William VINCENT on my web page (hoping that someone would challenge it if wrong). Too bad if other researchers blindly copied it!! ;-) I hope I'm right with Richard LUKE as husband for my Jane's sister Mary THOMAS - nobody has challenged it to date! Keep them coming, Tony! All the best Peter Williams Australia ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 22nd August, 1856. NOTICE - I will not be answerable for any Debts that may be contracted by my Wife, JECOLIAH MAGOR, of the parish of Gwennap, after this date. May 14th, 1856. RICHARD MAGOR, Adelaide, South Australia. I, BENJAMIN RULE, of Pachuca, Mexico, miner, Hereby Give Notice that I will not be answerable for any debts my wife ELIZA RULE, of Camborne, may contract after this notice. (signed) Benjamin Rule. (Witness) THOMAS BAWDEN. Dated Pachuca, Mexico, July 10th, 1856. [I have copied out this little article from the internet as it relates to Cornish miners in Pachuca - 'One cultural aspect that makes Pachuca stand out is the influence that Cornish miners who immigrated here in the 19th century have had. Many of their descendents remain in Pachuca and nearby Real del Monte, as well as two heritages that define the city, soccer and a dish called "pastes." '] NOTICE OF PARTNERSHIP - W. PASCOE begs to announce that he has taken Mr. S. NOSWORTHY and Mr. JOHN W. STEPHENS, into Partnership in his general Wholesale and Retail Drapery Business. W. P. avails himself of this opportunity of thanking the public for pas favours, and trusts the same liberal support will be continued to the new firm. Bodmin, August 22nd, 1856. PHOTOGRAPHIC PORTRAITS - For a short time only - Mr. W. H. PIPER (recently from London) begs to announce that he has opened Mr. MITCHINSON's Glass Room, Prince's street, Truro, for taking Portraits as above, and trusts by strict attention and skill to merit public support. N.B. - Specimens seen at the establishment. NOTICE TO CREDITORS - Notice is Hereby Given, that by Indenture date the Thirteenth day of August, One Thousand Eight Hundred and Fifty-six, WALTER ADVERTISEMENT - To Mr. ROWE, Custom-House-Place, St. Ives. - Sir, As you have given no reply to our late call on you for a definition of the phrase "St. Ives Mathematical and Commercial Academy," we take the liberty of telling you that the phrase is highly assuming on your part, and grossly insulting to your neighbouring schoolmasters. We do not, as you would have others suppose, object to your calling your school an Academy, but, to your calling it St. Ives Academy, which clearly signifies that your establishment is the only one in St. Ives that can be called an academy. Shallow must be the brain, and dull the intellect of the person who pretends to know anything of grammar, and does not perceive that this is the exact meaning. And why do you wish to distinguish your establishment by such an exclusive phrase? Do you imagine that your are superior, or even equal to us in scholastic attainments? Your reasoning, we presume, will soon lead you to hold an opinion widely different. We have no desire whatever to alter the good opinion held of your acquirements by those who favour you with their patronage. If you have doting friends who choose to place you on the throne of admiration, we allow every Ephraim to worship his idol. We would advise you, however, not to think yourself the Intellectual King; but to check your overgrowth of self-esteem, by duly considering your proneness to vanity. To enable you to act in some degree of obedience to the great and important precept, "Man know thyself," we offer our services to furnish you weekly, for at least twelve months, with such questions as will call into exercise your thinking powers, and give you a fair opportunity of testing your abilities. JAMES ROWE, Senr. JOHN TREMELLING. St. Ives, 5th August, 1856. A LETTER FROM AUSTRALIA says:- Some of the miners are still doing well, especially those who have puddling machines. We bought about a thousand pounds' worth of two Cornishmen a few weeks since. But gold is obtainable only in quantity by the fortunate few, and the very hard working and persevering miner. Machinery is now being extensively brought into use and applied, not only for quartz-crushing, but for stamping clay, and washing and amalgamating gold in the alluvial diggings. A new company is now being got up for crushing and amalgamating quartz gold at GBP2 per ton. Shareholders seem very sanguine of success, but I regard the speculation as an extremely unlikely one. If private speculation will not answer, and under the immediate superintendence of the proprietor, I have little faith in public companies; and it is ascertained that there is scarcely a steam quartz-crushing machine in Bendigo that pays. The one preferred here is Berdan's machine, which belongs to our friend Mr. ENSOR, and which has cost him GBP5,000 or GBP6,000. EXETER DISTRICT COURT OF BANKRUPTCY - Wednesday, August 20. - re:- JOSIAH TREGELLAS, draper and grocer, of St. Agnes, Cornwall. This was a sitting for certificate. Mr. HIRTZEL, the official assignee, read the following report - On the 21st of January, 1833 (the commencement of the balance sheet), the bankrupt has shown that he had a capital on his farm of GBP71. 8s. 7d. The profits for three years and a half calculated at twenty-five per cent. on the amount of goods bought, (less the amount of stock in hand at the date of the bankruptcy) amount to GBP375. 13. The expenses for the same period are:- trade, GBP128. 14s. 5d.; and household, GBP319. 7s.6d. In the trade expenses are the following items:- paid for house and shop at Falmouth, GBP12. 12s.; expenses attending same, GBP4. 10s.; repairs of premises, GBP14. 13s. 9d.; interest paid and owning, GBP27. 9s. 9d.; law charges, GBP6. The housekeeping expenses for five to the family at 30s. per week are calculated at a very moderate average. There are losses GBP21 from sale of goods under cost price. The creditors' debts are GBP673. 9s. 10d.; and the assets named are GBP37. 16s. 5d., and property, stock and furniture, GBP566. 19s. 11d. at cost price. The stock was sold by the trustees under a deed of assignment (before the bankruptcy), and only realised GBP295. 19s. 8d. After deducting the expenses of working the petition, I do not calculate on paying a dividend of more than 5s. in the GBP3. The cause of bankruptcy is attributed to want of capital, and the items in the balance sheet seem to warrant the bankrupt's statement. As no creditors opposed, the Commissioner granted a certificate of the second class. CORONER'S INQUESTS - On the 9th instant, at St. Stephens in Branwell, on the body of SAMUEL PHILLIPS, farmer, aged 46 years. The deceased, on Friday week, had gone to St. Dennis with his horse and cart, for a load of reed, and went into the Grenville Arms public-house, on his way home, between nine and ten o'clock, where he remained about two hours. On proceeding on his journey, the night being very dark, about a few hundred yards from the house, a person going on the road found that the car was upset, and the deceased was under the horse and near shaft, quite dead. From the marks of the wheel, it would appear that the cart had gone up over a bank, by the side of the road, and had been thus upset. Verdict, "accidental death." On the same day, at Heligan Lodge, in the parish of St. Ewe, on the body of JOSEPH EDWARDS, aged 14 years, who died from injuries he received by a kick from a horse. The deceased was in the employ of Mr. JOHN JAGO, of Corran Farm, in the parish of St. Ewe, and on Monday the 21st ult, he had gone to Pentewan with his master's cart, drawn by two horses, for a load of lime. On his return, he emptied the lime in the field, and when he came to the gate to go out, in passing the front horse to open it, the horse kicked at him and hit him in the forehead, fracturing the frontal bone nearly the whole length, and the brain protruded through part of it. After lingering from that day until Saturday week, he died from the injuries he received. From the evidence given at the inquest, it appeared that the horse was given to kicking, and was a dangerous one for any person, but more particularly a boy to manager. The jury returned a verdict of "accidental death," but desired the coroner to write to Mr. Jago and caution him about keeping a horse of that description. STANNARIES' COURT - Friday, August 15 - ROBERTS v. THOMAS - Great Beam Mine. - Mr. CHILCOTT stated that this was a creditor's petition by SAMUEL ROBERTS against the managing agent of Great Beam Mine, in the parish of Roche, for recovery of GBP19. 0s. 7d.; and he moved (Mr. Roberts, for defendant, consenting) for decree of payment. Mr. Roberts expressed his consent; and his Honor granted decree for payment in a month. RETALLACK and OTHERS v. DUNSTAN - Pentire Glaze - Mr. ROBERTS moved (Mr. CHILCOTT consenting) to dismiss petition for want of prosecution. Petition dismissed. BLUNDELL and OTHERS v. FULLER and OTHERS - Devon United - Mr. ROBERTS stated that this was a petition for an account. The petition had been served, either personally or constructively, on all the defendants except four, concerning whom there was an affidavit that they were not to be found in England and Wales. One defendant had appeared personally, but had not answered, and appearances had been entered for the other defendants, and time having elapsed as against the defendants without any answer, demurrer, or plea, Mr. Roberts obtained decree pro confesso for an account. ROBERTS and ANOTHER v. TREGONING - Mr. ROBERTS, for Mr. PLOMER, of Helston, appeared for plaintiffs; Mr. STOKES for defendant. Plaintiff's, by their petition, sued defendant as the principal agent and manager of Wheal Enys, seeking to recover GBP9. 4s. 2d. for work and labour performed. Defendant's answer denied that the sum claimed was due, but admitted that, after deducting smith's costs, the sum of GBP4. 3s. 2d. was due to plaintiffs, which amount the defendant paid into court. The witnesses called were WILLIAM ROBERTS, WILLIAM RICHARDS, RICHARD PASCOE, and JOHN MOYLE, all working miners, and JOHN DALE, managing clerk to Mr. Plomer, of Helston, plaintiff's attorney. The facts of the case were as follows: The plaintiffs, William Roberts and William Richards, are working miners, and were employed in Wheal Enys in March and April last. In March, Roberts and Richards, who were a "pair" of men, stoped a piece of ground, by agreement with the captain, for GBP3 a fathom, according to their own statement. They stoped during March four and a half fathoms, and in addition they stated that they each worked two stems, which, at the usual price would be half-a-crown a stem. When the month had expired they attended at setting day, and took the same piece of ground (which had become easier at that time) to stope at 50s. per fathom. They worked on to the third week in April, working part of the time, nearly a week, in the adit level, where they drove about four feet. In the third week in April, they went to defendant and asked what they had to receive for March working. Defendant told them that the whole money was GBP9, but that deducting for material supplied, they had only to receive GBP6. 3s. 7d. They went out of the account house, and soon afterwards were followed by the defendant. They asked him why he had not allowed them all their ground. He said he knew there was a foot or two more, but he would make it all right the next time. They told him he had paid them off at 55s. per fathom, whereas they agreed with him for GBP3. Some high words passed, and Roberts said the captain threatened to knock him down over the hill. He told them they were not to work any more in the mine; but they continued to come there, and offered to work every day during the remainder of the month of April; they were not, however, allowed to have the whim to clear the stuff from their pitch. They stoped in the three weeks of April one and a half fathoms of ground; they did not see it measured, the captain would not allow them to do so; he said no mining agent or any one else should measure his ground. They afterwards met the defendant at Mr. Plomer's office, and made an arrangement with him. On cross-examination Roberts said he had not claimed for any work done by another man. The GBP5. 3s. 7d. was not all that was due to them for March; they only took it in part payment. The evidence of the other witnesses was of a corroborative character as to the price of the ground being GBP3 for stoping in March. One of the witnesses, Richard Pascoe, was asked by Mr. Stokes whether he did not tell a man called EDDY, that Roberts and Richards asked him to go to Mr. Plomer's office, and said they would give him 10s. if he would state that the bargain was set to them at GBP3 a fathom. The witness denied this; he said William Richards asked him to go to Mr. Plomer's, but he refused, and said he would not go if they would give him 10s. Mr. John Dale, clerk to Mr. Plomer, stated that in May last he wrote to defendant in reference to plaintiff's claim, in consequence of which defendant called at the office, and it was agreed that the ground should be measured, and that he and the plaintiffs should again meet at the office on a certain day. They met there on the 7th of June, when plaintiffs claimed for having stoped rather more than six fathoms, besides four feet in the adit level; they also claimed for four stems. Defendant said he had measured the ground with DEWER [?] and the whole that had been stoped in March and April was five fathoms four fee three inches. There was a great deal of contention between the parties and witness advised plaintiffs to consent to take defendant's measurement. Defendant said the price to March was 55s. per fathom; plaintiffs said it was GBP3. Witness here read the calculations, according to measurements and prices which he noted down at the time in the presence of both parties, and said the defendant agreed to pay plaintiffs the sum of GBP9. 4s. 2d. less the April costs owing from plaintiffs to the mine, which defendant had not then ascertained. This concluded the evidence for plaintiffs. The deductions to which plaintiffs were subject for supplies of materials were powder, smith's costs, also for drawing attle [ last part of line unreadable?] defendant had charged for 29lbs of powder, smith's costs, 62. 4d., and for drawing attle in April, 19s. Mr. Stokes was about to commence his case for the defence, and said he should be able to prove that the price really agreed on for the stoping in March was 55s. and not GBP3 per fathom, and that the smith's costs were 6s. 4d. instead of 5s. 2d. The Vice-Warden here interposed, and said he thought the agreement by defendant, at Mr. Plomer's office, to pay plaintiff's GBP9. 4. 2d., less the April costs, should be held as binding upon defendant; he did not think the matter should be again opened up. If, then, the accounts for plaintiff's working, and materials supplied to them, were considered settled by the agreement at the attorney's office, there would only remain the difference between plaintiffs' and defendant's estimate of the April costs, to be further disposed of. Mr. Stokes said all the difference he could prove as to the April costs, would be in the item for drawing attle, which was 19s. to be charged to plaintiffs, instead of 14s. as they had stated. Mr. Roberts, for plaintiffs, then said he would give up the difference between the two amounts, in order to avoid further discussion, and would accept a decree for GBP1. 14s. which was the total amount owing to plaintiffs, taking the agreement at Mr. Plomer's office as conclusive, and charging to plaintiffs 19s. for removing attle instead of 14s. The Vice-Warden accordingly made a decree for plaintiffs for GBP1. 14s. GUY v. LANG - This case was tried on the previous Monday, when a verdict was given for the plaintiff for GBP50. 11s. 9d. On Thursday Mr. Stokes, for defendant, moved for a new trial, on the ground that the verdict was against the weight of evidence. The Vice-Warden said he would consider the case. His Honor now said he had looked over the evidence, and it seemed to him so much a case for the decision of a jury, that he must decline to disturb their verdict. He should, therefore, refuse to grant a new trial; but the judgment against the defendant would, of course, be only as against the effects in his hands belonging to the late Mr. SOPER. Monday, August 18. RICHARDS v. GIBBONS and OTHERS - Trethellan Mine - This was a petition by Mr. WILLIAM RICHARDS, as purser, against the defendants, JOHN GIBBONS and BARBARA PETER, the latter as administratrix of a deceased shareholder, ALEXANDER PETER. Defendant Gibbons's debt for costs was GBP15, and defendant Peter's, GBP7. 6s. 11d., with a further sum of GBP29. 7s. 6d. incurred for costs from Peters's death down to the end of February last, when the accounts of the mine were duly audited and allowed. Mr. HOCKIN moved, on an affidavit setting out these facts, and on the Registrar's certificate that no answer had been filed, for a decree pro confesso for payment, and in default a rule nisi for sale of shares. - Granted. CHESTON and ANOTHER v. RICHARDS and ANOTHER - Mr. STOKES, for defendant Richards, on the preceding Tuesday had moved for and obtained a rule nisi to dismiss the petition, with costs, for want of prosecution. Mr. ROBERTS, now showed cause against the rule, and Mr. Stokes replied. The Vice-Warden enlarged the rule, ordering that plaintiffs should bring on the cause for trial at the next sittings, and that in case of default, defendants should be at liberty to move to dismiss the petition absolutely; this order, however, to be subject to an application by plaintiffs, to the Registrar, for further time. RICHARDS v. JENKIN - Lelant Consols - Mr. HOCKIN said this was a purser's petition by the plaintiff, Mr. WILLIAM RICHARDS, against defendant, Mr. JOHN SAMUEL JENKIN, of London. No answer had been filed, and Mr. Hockin read plaintiff's affidavit, setting out that the accounts had been audited and allowed on the 24th of December last, when the amount due from defendant was GBP52. 3s. 4d., and that defendant had not paid. On this affidavit, and the Registrar's certificate of no answer, he moved for a decree for payment, and sale of shares in default. - Granted; payment to be made in a week. NOELL v. WYNNE - An issue at common law, directed by the Court, and arising out of this equity suit, had been tried during these sittings, when the jury gave a verdict for the plaintiff. But Mr. ROBERTS, for defendant, according to the terms of the order directing the issue, was to have leave to move for a new trial. Mr. Roberts now moved for a new trial, upon three grounds:- first, that there was no case for the jury, and that the Court ought to have directed a verdict for the defendant; secondly, on the ground of misdirection, in regard to the observations made by the Court on the silence of defendant on the receipt of the successive circulars; and thirdly, he submitted, that even assuming there was any question for the jury, the verdict was against evidence. Mr. Roberts argued at considerable length in support of his motion. Mr. Stokes for plaintiff, showed cause against it, and Mr. Roberts replied. The Vice-Warden deferred his decision in the case. PERMEWAN v. GREENWOOD - This was an action at common law, tried on the preceding Wednesday when a verdict was given for the defendant. Mr. HOCKIN said he was instructed by the solicitors for the plaintiff (Messrs. MILLETT and BORLASE) to move for a new trial, on the ground that the verdict was against the weight of evidence. Mr. Hockin referred to the nature of the pleadings, submitting that probably the jury had been confused by them. He also adverted to various points of the evidence, and commented thereon, in support of his motion. The Vice-Warden said the declaration did not agree with what was proved by the plaintiff himself. It was a question on which there was very contradictory evidence, and he thought the jury came to a just conclusion. Without any reference to the pleadings, he thought substantial justice was done by the verdict. Defendant could not have gained by the trial, but anything plaintiff could have got out of it would have been money in his pocket. Perhaps the jury puzzled themselves with the pleadings; still, he thought they had arrived at a just conclusion, and he should refuse a new trial. THE HEAT AND THE CHOLERA - The past three weeks taking them altogether, have been the hottest for the last sixty-five years. Meteorologists have opened their eyes with astonishment at the thermometer ranging, day after day, from eighty to eighty-seven degrees of temperature in the shade. Thunderstorms have been frequent, but still the tem0perature of the atmosphere has not been materially lowered. The results upon the crops have been all but miraculous. They have been, as it were, Subjected to the influence of a tropical climate, and the consequence is that all kinds of agricultural produce are ripe and ready. But whilst all have rejoiced at the prospects for the future there has been a considerable anxiety felt as to the influence which this unusual high temperature would have upon the public health. At this season of the year an increase in the mortality from epidemic diseases is generally looked for, especially in the metropolis and in large towns; and the weekly returns of the Registrar-General have, therefore, been scanned with great earnestness, especially as it is found that cholera has begun to appear in its old tracks. In Parish there has been a considerable number of deaths from this fell disease, and it has also been very fatal in Madrid, and in several of the low-lying districts of Spain. In St. Petersburg it is also again very prevalent; but, with regard to the latter city since its first appearance until the present time, in the summer months, it is always prevalent; in fact, the disease in Russia may be regarded now as entirely sporadic. In London there has been, as might have been anticipated, a considerable increase of diarrhoea cases, and of deaths from summer cholera, but still those dying from the latter disease have been principally children. The deaths from Cholera and diarrhoea during the past three weeks have been as follow:- During the week ending July 26, there died from cholera in the metropolis 11, and from diarrhoea 71. In the following week the deaths from cholera rose to 16, and from diarrhoea to 125, and in the week ending Saturday last, the deaths were, from cholera 28 and from diarrhoea 211. The increase in the mortality, from these two causes has, therefore, been unusually rapid. At the same time it is gratifying to find that in but few instances has the disease proved fatal to adults. Thus, out of the 211 deaths from diarrhoea, 187 were infants under two years of age, and the other deaths occurred to very old people, whose physical powers were not sufficient to resist the exhaustion consequent upon the complaint. The same remark applies to the deaths from cholera, although there were one or two that look rather suspicious. ~Thus in St. James's, Westminster, at Upper #Rupert-street, a female is returned as having died from cholera after 36 hours illness, and in the same 0parish a tailor, aged 61 died from an attack of cholera of eighteen hours duration. Not withstanding these cases, and the increased mortality from diarrhoea, we do not apprehend a general outbreak of cholera this year. In the corresponding week of 1852, the deaths from diarrhoea were even higher than at present, and there were also 21 deaths from cholera, but still the disease did not, although expected, become general until the following year. The same result may, therefore be expected, that is to day, if we have a dry winter and a hot summer, next year. LAUNCESTON LOCAL BOARD OF HEALTH - The scheme for draining this town, and supplying it with water, has now been in operation three or four years. It was carried out by the dominant interest here, in defiance of the wishes of the ratepayers, and has in every respect proved a failure. The works are most imperfectly done, the cost has been nearly three times that at which it was estimated, and the supply of water is totally inadequate. About one-third of the houses are occasionally furnished with water, but the residue are in the greatest distress from the want of this necessary of life. The Board have deprived the inhabitants of the former public sources of supply. In one of these his Grace the late Duke of Northumberland had, a few years previously, expended GBP2,200. These had answered all the general requirements of the town, and every ratepayer would willingly have contributed to do what more was needed. Unfortunately, the Board spurned public remonstrance and private suggestion, and they have occasioned an expenditure of not less than GBP15,000. House property here has consequently declined in value from GBP25 to GBP33 per cent.; and, except the interested promoters of the ruinous "water works" and their employ[es?], not an individual has had his comforts enlarged by the costly luxury of the board. But for the private kindness of persons who wisely preserved some pumps on their own property, certain of the inhabitants would at this moment be utterly destitute of water; they could not exist in the town. On the 11th instant, a requisition to the Mayor to convene a meeting of the ratepayers was originated, when the question would be considered. On the 18th the meeting was held, and was fully and respectably attended. It was expected that as Mr. GURNEY had requested the mayor to call the meeting, he would have made some statements in explanation of the proceedings of the board, but an interval of some minutes passed in silence, when Mr. ROBBINS, a gentleman opposed to the board, was called on to address the meeting. He did so in few words, merely referring to the points of complaint which aggrieved the rate-payers. He was followed by Mr. WISE, builder, who reviewed the whole matter from the formation of the board to the present, with the view of showing that in almost every instance they had failed to fulfil the promises held out to the inhabitants. They pledged a supply of twelve gallons per head per diem, and a surplus quantity; they stated the rate should be no more than 8d. or 9d. in the pound; they engaged that the private works should be but 50s. per house; but what were the facts? The town had been three or four days in succession without any water, and families of ten, twenty, or even forty members had thus been exposed to thirst, fever, &c. The rates, instead of 8d. or 9d. had been, during the past year, 4s. 4d. in the pound; and in many cases the private works entailed on householders had cost from GBP15 to GBP50 for each house. The board had taken a bold step in defiance of the warning of the ratepayers and men of judgment and experience; they had carried on the scheme disregarding all suggestions from the town, and he (Mr. Wise), therefore, placed no confidence in them. He had warned them from the first, and now he charged them with recklessly spending the public money, and leaving the town in a deplorable state. Mr. Gurney replied, but out correspondent states that his attempted reply was as great a failure as the scheme which he endeavoured to justify. Mr. DOIDGE then addressed the meeting disproving some of the previous speaker's statements. He was followed by Mr. Robbins, who had been personally attacked in remarks made by Mr. Gurney, but who fairly smote his antagonist in plain, earnest and truthful remarks. The entire proceeds of the board were held up by this speaker to the contempt and scorn which they justly merited. He concluded by moving "That the Board of Health had utterly failed in the performance of their duty, and that the inhabitants had no confidence in them." Mr. Wise seconded the proposition. On this there was a great deal of talking across the room, evidently of a character which was intended to elude the consequences of a vote of censure. At length the Mayor was requested to put it to the meeting, but he refused, because, he said, there were others than ratepayers present. He was pressed to do so, and told he was in honour bound to put the resolution to the meeting, but still he declined. Mr. Robbins then put it to the meeting, when a host of hands were held up in favour, and not one against the resolution, which was carried with much acclamation. TRURO WRESTLING - This wrestling took place on Monday and Tuesday last, under the management of a committee. The West Cornwall Railway ran a cheap train on the Monday, and a great number of people came into #Truro from the western parishes to witness the wrestling. EMIDY's band performed, and the various arrangements of the committee were satisfactory and well carried out. The place of the wrestling was the Ship Inn Moor, where the agricultural exhibitions are held. Sixty-four wrestlers engaged on the Monday, but in consequence of the hindrance caused by the weather, the prizes could not be played off on that day. In the course of the day some very excellent play was shown, and no complaint was made of "faggotting." Amongst those who distinguished themselves by the best play were WILLIAM ARGALL of Redruth, in playing with JOHN BULLOCK, of St. Austell JOHN OLVER of Newlyn East, and OXNAM of Newlyn East, showed some very good play. JOHN GILLARD of Gwennap, well known as one of the oldest wrestlers in the county, played well both on the first and second day. WILLIAM TREGLOWN of Ludgvan, who has the reputation of being a first class wrestler, was matched against BULLOCK of St. Austell, with whom he played about three quarters of an hour, and the proposed to toss with him. This was against one of the regulations of the committee, which was then there should be no tossing, but that every man should play till he was thrown, or fairly gave in, Bullock was unwilling to toss, but Treglown pressed it, and on their doing so, Bullock lost. The committee being informed of this, Treglown was excluded from playing any further, but Bullock, as he had been reluctant to transgress the rules, was permitted to wrestle again. The play lasted as late in the evening as the parties could see, and on the next morning, Tuesday, it was recommenced shortly after ten o'clock, when some more excellent play was shown, and was concluded about one o'clock, when the following were declared the winners of the prizes:- First prize GBP8 and the belt, JOHN DYER of St. Austell; second price GBP4, JOHN MURTON of Gwennap; third prize GBP2, JOHN GONINAN of Camborne; fourth prize GBP1, JOHN MICHELL of Chacewater. The champion of field, John Dyer, is a young man apparently about twenty-seven, weights 8 score 10lbs., and is about 5 feet 9 1/2 inches in height. There was some fine play on Tuesday morning in the contests for the prizes; amongst others, John Murton of Gwennap, and CHARLES THOMAS f Illogan, were greatly applauded. After the prizes had been won there were matches for the "thrown men," of whom thirty-two contended for prizes amounting to GBP6. 10s., which had been subscribed for them. Many of these men showed excellent play, and about seven in the evening the wrestling terminated with the following prizes awarded to those who had been previously "thrown men":- first prize GBP3, THOMAS PERRY STOCKER, St. Austell; second prize GBP2, ISAAC DYER, St. Austell; third prize GBP1, HENRY PENHALE, Gwinear; fourth prize 10s., JOHN DAVEY, St. Austell. Stocker of St. Austell had thrown Argall of Redruth, but some of Argall's friends came forward in his behalf, and bets were laid, to the amount of GBP20, on the result of a match between them, to come off on Wednesday, which, however, was prevented by the wet weather, and their wrestling has been postponed, it is said, for a fortnight. HAYLE REGATTA - This regatta took place on Monday last, in the basin extending from the Drawbridge to the Causeway at Phillack. The wind was easterly, and a fine breeze for the sailing boats, which had frequently to tack in going up, and ran before the breeze in coming down. The first match, between sailing boats, commenced about one o'clock. The "William," "Star," and "Victoria," (all owned by THOMAS GULL); the "Wave," Capt. REES; the "Fame," TREVASKIS; the "Jane," FARR and the "Bee," STICKLER. The "Victoria" went ahead, and on rounding the committee boat was a minute and a half ahead of the "William." The "Bee" was third, but having fouled the "Jane," the latter took the third prize. The next race was between six-oared gigs, and was a very close match. The St. Ives boats were the "Onward," RICHARD PERKINS, and the "Star of the West," ROBERT WELSH. The Hayle competitors were the "Bowl'ow," THOMAS ROTHERO, and the "Adventurer," THOMAS LOVE. The race concluded with the "Onward" first (by two lengths), the Start of the West" second, the "Bowl'ow" third (but by only half-a-length) and the "Adventurer" fourth. There was next an excellent contest between ships' boats belonging to the "Park," Capt. CHING; the "Frank," Capt. WILLIAMS, the "Anna Sophia," Capt. BAWDEN, the "Ivy," Capt. W. T. RICHARDS, and the "Eldred," Capt. NINNIS. They arrived in the following order:- "Anna Sophia," "Frank," "Park," "Ivy," and "Eldred." A prize of 15s. was put up for two boats which were considered not exactly within the definition of "ships' boats" - the "Bee" and the "Brilliant," owned respectively by THOMAS SICKLER and ANDREW HARRIS. The first won. These boats were rowed up and down the basin, a distance of little less than a mile, in ten minutes. The race between two-oared boats (no coxswain), arrived in the following order:- "John Harvey," Hayle, rowed by young men,) "Ivy," "Frank," "Anna Sophia," and "Eldred." The sum of ten shillings was offered as a prize by the committee for a race between the "Jane," JAMES WHITE, of Godrevy, and the "Pearl." The former won easily. A sculling match for prizes then took place between the "John Harvey," "Jane," "Ivy," and " Pearl," which returned in the following order:- "Pearl," (sculled by EDWIN TREGASKIS) "Ivy," and "Jane," The gig and punt chase excited much interest, the punt (THOMAS GULL, the Lelant ferryman) being chased by the gig "Adventurer," and after a great deal of sport, captured. After the races much amusement was caused by climbing a greasy pole for a leg of mutton, and walking over one across the basin, for the same object. The "Queen" steamer, many of the vessels in port, the Custom-house, and some private dwellings were gaily decorated; and the Copperhouse band performed enlivening music. The starting of the boats was effectively managed by Captain REES. CORNWALL COUNTY COURTS - St. Austell - This court was held on the 14th instant. The protection of the court was granted to WILLIAM LUKE, of St. Austell, an insolvent. TRURO - At this court on Friday last, several defendants were committed for non-payment of debts after judgment had been given against them. In the case of JOHN DREW v. JAMES NICHOLLS, defendant was ordered to be committed for fourteen days for non-payment of GBP1. 13s. 6d. JOHN GEORGE was committed for fourteen days for non-payment of 17s. 5d., at the suit of NICHOLAS LAMPSHIRE. JOHN SCOBLE was committed for twenty-one days, for non-payment of GBP1. 0s. 1d. at the suit of JOHN KNIGHT. CHARLOTTE LANGDON CURGENVEN was committed for twenty-one days for non-payment of GBP3. 1s. 6d., at the suit of AMOS JENNINGS. TRURO POLICE - On Wednesday last, before Capt. KEMPE and Mr. NANKIVELL, magistrates, SOPHIA STEPHENS, who lives at Chapel Hill, was charged with attempting to pick the pocket of JOSEPH WILLIAMS, a miner of Camborne, and GEORGE GARDNER, a navvy, was charged with assisting Stephens. The case was partly heard and adjourned till Saturday. MARY SHORT, of Daniell Street, was summoned for assaulting WILLIAM ANTHONY on the 5th of August. The case was settled out of court, Short paying all expenses incurred. Several butchers were summoned for having their beams deficient, from half an ounce to two ounces. They pleaded guilty, and were fined in some cases 2s. 6d. and 10s. expenses, the highest fine being GBP1 and 10s. expenses. Two were convicted of having short weights, one a quarter of an ounce on a half-pound, another a half-ounce on a 7lbs weight, he being a potatoe dealer. They were each fined, the first 1s. and 10s. costs; the latter was let off on paying expenses. CHARGE OF ROBBERY - A man named RICHARD MARTIN, who has been in the employ of Mr. PROCTOR, ironmonger at Launceston, for many years, has been charged with robbing his employer of porter, Mr. Proctor being an agent for STOGUMBER ale and porter. The final hearing of the case will take place on Monday next. MINE ACCIDENT - On Tuesday last, as a lad named JOHN MATTHEWS about 13 years of age, was proceeding to his labour, at North Wheal Busy mine, he accidentally fell into a winze about eight fathoms deep, and received serious injury to his head. FATAL ACCIDENT WHILST BATHING - On Saturday last, four boys went to Greenbank Cliff, in the parish of Camborne to bathe, and eventually came out and dressed for the purpose of going home, when one of them called JAMES BURGAN persisted in going into the water again, which he did alone, and in a few seconds he sank. Another of the boys attempted to lay hold of him, and had a narrow escape himself, but regained the shore in safety. The boy Burgan was about twelve years old; his body on Wednesday evening had not been found. A MAN KILLED IN AUSTRALIA - Australian newspapers have been received, with intelligence from Melbourne to the 20th of May. One of them contains a letter from a correspondent at Sandhurst, as follows:- Within the past week our own more immediate neighbourhood has been thrown into a state of some excitement, owing to the death of a person names SMITH, caused by a severe blow from a whip inflicted by a person of the name of ALLEN, a Cornishman who formerly kept a public-house at St. Day, and married a sister of Mrs. PAYNTER's - a Miss O'BRIEN. It appears that Smith had been drinking and ill-using his wife, who took refuge in the Sandhurst Hotel, of which Allen is proprietor. Smith following his wife about two o'clock in the morning, and commenced breaking in the windows of the hotel with an adze. The request of Allen to desist was unheeded, and ultimately led to Allen's striking him on the head with a loaded whip, which caused his death. CORONERS' INQUESTS - The following inquests have been held before Mr. HICHENS, county coroner:- On the 19th instant, in the parish of Crowan, on the body of CHRISTIANA GREEN, aged about eight months. The deceased was a twin child, and both were put to bed by the mother early in the evening of Saturday last, apparently quite well. About twelve o'clock she and her husband went to bed, and the children as they had been accustomed to do, lay side by side on the left hand of the mother, and the husband on the right, and the deceased on that night, as it had invariably done, lay furthest from the mother, as she was not so restless as the other, and did not therefore require so much of the mother's attention. When the mother went to bed she nurse the other child, but Christiana being asleep as she thought, and still believes, she was not nursed. On the following morning, when the mother awoke, she found the child which lay nearest to her awake, and that child having apparently kicked off the bed clothes from the other, she (the mother) rose up to cover up the furthest child, when she observed she looked very pale, and as if dead. On feeling her head and face she found them cold, and she immediately said to her husband she was afraid Christiana was dead. A neighbour who lived in an adjoining house was called up, and on her coming in and taking up the child, it was found to be dead. The parents were represented to be kind and affectionate to their children, of whom they had three besides the twins; and as there did not appear to be the slightest cause for suspicion of violence, the jury, without hesitation, returned a verdict of "Natural death." On the following day, in the parish of Germoe, on the body of CATHERINE ROSERUGE, aged fifty-eight years. The deceased, who possessed a house in which she lived, besides some other property, which produced a small rental, worked also at her needle, and was thereby able to support herself comfortably. Another elderly person of the name of MARGARET POLGLASE, to whom she gave houseroom for her company and attendance on her, lived with her, and on Monday evening last, about nine o'clock, both went to bed, sleeping in the same room, as they were accustomed to do, but in separate beds. On the following morning, about six o'clock, Margaret Polglase awoke, and not hearing the deceased, she looked towards her bed, but could not see her, though her clothes which she had taken off on the preceding night, were on the chair where she was accustomed to place them. She then got out of her own bed, and going towards the deceased's, found, to her surprise, that she was not there; she immediately called to the people in the adjoining house, and told them of it, and search was speedily made for the deceased in the village, but no tidings could be procured of her for some time. She was at length however, found drowned in a draw well at some distance from her house. It was given in evidence that the deceased was often gloomy and desponding, expressing at times a belief that she should be starved, and that she should not live long. The jury, in absence of any evidence explaining the occurrence, returned a verdict of "found drowned," and accompanying it with their opinion that the deceased, whilst labouring under temporary insanity committed suicide. The following inquests have been held before Mr. GOOD, county coroner:- On the 13th instant, at Broadwood Park, in the parish of Poundstock, on the body of an old man, a pauper, 83 years of age, who the day before had fallen down stairs, receiving thereby such injuries as caused his death in about two hours. Verdict, "accidental death." On Monday last, at Woodford, in the parish of Moorwinstow, on the body of HENRY COLES, aged 13, a servant in the employ of Mr. TROOD [?]. The deceased on the 16th instant, whilst employed in driving the horses of a threshing machine, in imprudently attempting to get on a beam, was caught by the machinery, and so much injured that he expired almost immediately. Verdict, "accidental death."

Hi Julia I'm afraid I can't spot anything very helpful among my THOMAS collection, although I do have a John son of William THOMAS baptised at Camborne on 5 Oct 1783. His mother is probably Mary SAUNDERS among a competing group of Marys who married William THOMASes. Tony Bennett Cheshire, UK

Hi List Here's another William BENNETTS and then that's probably enough for now. The Will of William BENNETTS of Camborne, miner, written 3 Sep 1833, proved 19 Mar 1834, mentions the following: children (unnamed) of his son William; son, John; son, Richard; daughter, Jenefer; daughter, Betsy; daughter, Keturah, wife of John JEWELL (joint exec); daughter, Mary; sister-in-law, Johanna HOCKING; son, James (joint exec). Property in Cairn Entral is also mentioned. Witnessed by John MAYNE & John HONEY. William BENNETTS, age 78, of Cairn Entral, was buried on 19 Nov 1833 at Camborne. His stated age suggests he is the one baptised on 29 Aug 1756 at Camborne, son of William BENNETTS and Eleanor VIVIAN. He married Mary BENNETTS at Camborne on 21 Feb 1784. The reference to his sister-in-law identifies Mary as the daughter of Richard BENNETTS and Anne ROWE, baptised on 14 Mar 1762 at Gwennap; her sister Johanna (baptised on 3 Mar 1771 at Gwennap) married Edward HOCKING at Camborne on 6 Jul 1813. William was predeceased by his eldest son William BENNETTS (baptised 1 Aug 1784, buried 3 Nov 1823). Tony Bennett Cheshire, UK

Hi List Here's another Camborne will - the Will of William BENNETTS of Camborne, yeoman, written 23 Feb 1791, proved 15 Dec 1792. It names the following: son, William son, Christopher son, Gilbert dau, Anne dau, Mary dau, Grace dau, Elizabeth son, Samuel son, George (the last two, joint executors) "Capt" William BENNETTS was buried at Camborne on 12 Jan 1792. He is one of numerous namesakes in Camborne at this period, but appears to the one baptised on 13 Feb 1713/14 at Camborne, son of Francis and Grace. He married Ann BASTIAN at Camborne on 16 Aug 1737. I have counted 13 children for this marriage: there are nine named in the Will, and four died young. Tony Bennett Cheshire, UK

Hi List The Will of Matthew BENNATTS of Camborne, yeoman, written 12 Nov 1762, proved 20 Sep 1763, names the following: son, Matthew BENNATTS son, Gilbert BENNATTS daughter, Clarider (sic), the wife of James TREDENNICK daughter, Elizabeth, the wife of William WILLIAMS daughter, Christian, the wife of Samuel HOCKING daughter, Jane daughter, Bridgett wife, Clarider (sic), BENNATTS (sole executrix). Matthew BENNATTS was buried on 16 Nov 1762 at Camborne. He was baptised on 21 Aug 1687 at Camborne, the son of Richard BENNETT and Elizabeth VIVIAN. He married Clarenda VIVIAN at Camborne on 7 Apr 1716. Tony Bennett Cheshire, UK

Hi List Another THOMAS will - The Will of William THOMAS of Treslothan in the parish of Camborne, written 22 Feb 1832, proved 27 June 1832, mentions the following: daughter Eliza (under age 21); other unmarried daughters (not named); wife (not named); Henry SKEWES of Constantine, and Charles THOMAS junior of Camborne, executors. William THOMAS was buried at Camborne on 1 Mar 1832, aged 71. He appears to be the one baptised on 10 Jan 1762 at Camborne, son of William THOMAS and Jane BENNETTS, and who married Mary SKEWES at Camborne on 18 Oct 1791. Rather disappointingly he only names his youngest daughter (Eliza, baptised 19 Mar 1814). The two executors appear to be his brother-in-law and son-in-law respectively. Charles THOMAS junior married Alice THOMAS at Camborne on 3 Aug 1818. Tony Bennett Cheshire, UK

Hello Tony & List - I'm perpetually researching the John THOMAS family - probably from Camborne - definitely from that region. John THOMAS (born Redruth?) married Eleanor EVA (born Mylor) 20 September 1815, in the Camborne parish church; their marriage appears in the register. From the census returns and family history, they had the following children: William, born 1816; John born before 1818; Henry Barnes, born 1820; Frances born 1822; Alfred, born 1825; Ellen Eva born 1826; James Eva born 1828; and Emmeline Jane born 1830. Census entries show the children were born in various places, such as Copperhouse Hayle, and St. Austell - but every one of them was baptised in Camborne. Thankfully, most of these children maintained family naming patterns, and gave several if not all of their children middles names of "Eva". But William born 1816 has proven elusive; as you noted there were quite a few men with that name at the time. Finding him in a census, etc., has proven to be an exercise in frustration. There's another link to a man named William Thomas. John may have been the son of the William Thomas, born before June 1755 in Redruth, and Margaret Knight Thomas, born before Feb 1753 in Illogen. Margaret and William also had a daughter named Peggy Knight Thomas, who married John Rogers of Camborne in 1816, and had 11 children. If any of this sounds familiar to any researcher, or if someone is working on an allied line, I would love to know about it. Perhaps we can work out who belonged to which line together. Cheers, Julia (even if you just run across a mention of this family, please let me know. Thanks!!!)> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 02:52:39 -0400 (EDT) > From: Tony Bennett <[email protected]> > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] Will of William THOMAS of Treslothan, 1832 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi List > > > Another THOMAS will - > > The Will of William THOMAS of Treslothan in the parish of Camborne, written 22 Feb 1832, proved 27 June 1832, mentions the following: > daughter Eliza (under age 21); > other unmarried daughters (not named); > wife (not named); > Henry SKEWES of Constantine, and Charles THOMAS junior of Camborne, executors. > > > William THOMAS was buried at Camborne on 1 Mar 1832, aged 71. He appears to be the one baptised on 10 Jan 1762 at Camborne, son of William THOMAS and Jane BENNETTS, and who married Mary SKEWES at Camborne on 18 Oct 1791. > > > Rather disappointingly he only names his youngest daughter (Eliza, baptised 19 Mar 1814). The two executors appear to be his brother-in-law and son-in-law respectively. Charles THOMAS junior married Alice THOMAS at Camborne on 3 Aug 1818. > > > Tony Bennett > Cheshire, UK

I apologize, my computer sent the last message on its own, as it did last night before editing and word spell check... Hello again fellow researchers, Certainly pre-20th century and also pre-19th century genealogical researches seem to be impacted by such outbreaks and other diseases and low mortality rates in the local population as medical recordation and disease control measures progressed. And wars, conflicts, civil strafe, etc compound the difficulties of our research. Soldiers and their followers, sailors and marines seem to have been sent from part of the British Isles to another part, and, later, further afield in the British Empire and elsewhere. What happened to the military dead is not always clear. Military records seems to be fairly detailed. Civil records not so. And, I have learned that erected parish headstones and monuments in church yards are not so permanent, also. Such grave markers in the USA seem to survive in situ from the 17th century, depending on material, weather, protection provided, and location.. Family and community cemeteries rather common in the colonies until well into the 19th century in rural areas of country. For the most part amazingly complete, I think that the publicly available Cornish parish records are an irreplaceable body of social and medical history, as well as genealogical data. Due to the yellow fever discussions, I have been wondering if the absence of a goodly number of people from the parish records can be detected by analyzing available data for a notable void. And if so, perhaps the a possible reason be provided for their absence by further historical research. Several years ago in an English village, I believe, there was highly critical DNA research done on plague burials and identified direct descendants of plague survivors. Apparently, according to my recollection of the study's findings, when one parent had an identified particular DNA marker that person could contact the disease but possibly survive. If a person was child of parents who each carried and transmitted this marker, that person would very likely survive. If both parents did not carry the marker, the inflicted person would most likely die. This is an interesting genealogical and medical research DNA study. Apparently, some immunity existed in the villagers' DNA from much earlier plague outbreaks. I also have read that lime would also be spread on the dead, individual and group burials. Lead caskets were a very expensive means of prophylactically isolating plague dead. But lead was mined in Cornwall and Devon. (Lead exposure must have been hard on the Cornish children for many generations.) Last April, while vi sting the parish church and graveyard in Callington, Cornwall, I noted that the church history bulletin stated burials were not permitted until sometime later; parishioners burials were done in a neighboring parish. A local bishop had to be convinced by the good citizens of Callington to give permission for burials to begin in the parish. (Christenings and marriages did occur in the church Only burials were prohibited.). If this burial restriction was more the norm, than our genealogical research in parish records is further complicated. Enough for now, and my apologies for being so verbose at times. I do enjoy learning about Cornish history and its people. Regards, Steade Craigo In a message dated 10/4/2012 12:53:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: thanks Julie added to this particular disease in 1952 at theold Quaker church in FALMOUTH THERE WAS A CEMETERY THERE WAS A BURIAL GROUND WITH ABOUT 30 OR SO HEADSTONES DATED FROM THE 1600, TO BE REMOVED, WELL a trial dig turned up nothing so we placed the headstones on the outside walls , i then left England and didn't return for some 10 years .and there the town were, removing all the soil 15 feet high and 50 feet long (ok ok I'm getting to it ) by hand as it was hallowed ground, they found those coffins on bed rock just below the level of the road, here it is every coffin was encased in lead which was the way those who died of the plague all were named FOX there it is for what's its worth Tommy (wish i could be there next Oct and meet Rita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Mosman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Yellow fever outbreak in 1856 > > Hello Tom - Yellow fever is normally a rather tropical disease, isn't it? > Panama canal, and all that. It's still prevalent in Sub-Saharan Africa, I > believe. But it can, and does, appear elsewhere. In fact, we think one > of my relies was killed in such an outbreak - hundreds of persons buried > in a common grave, because the powers-that-be didn't want the news to get > out, and deter people from moving into the area!! (which was swamp-like, > but a center on the main highways.) So there's no record of who was > buried, unfortunately. Yellow fever is a virus spread by mosquitos, and in > the first stage one has a horrendous headache, muscular aches and pains > (as in really bad flu), loss of appetite - and jaundice is common, which > is where it got it's name. The first stage appears about 3 to 6 days > after being bitten. The second stage is remission - it seems all or some > of the symptoms have gone away. Unfortunately, this only lasts a short > time (24 hours). The third stage is that y! > our organs (hearts, kidneys) stop working; seizures, coma, and delirium > may be present. From what I've found out, there isn't a specific > medicine to combat it; doctors use a combination of things to correct > different symptoms. People still die from it! But imagine what it was like > in the 1850's, without all our sulfa drugs, etc. Several curates/vicars > kept record of causes of deaths in the parish records, especially when an > epidemic swept the area, in the early 1800's. Then they were ordered not > to do so! (I'm still unsure why that was done.) But it was reported in > the West Briton, so it has to be true. Right?? <g> Hope this helps, Julia> >> with the amount of deaths in Cornwall on that date i checked and >> apparently >> an outbreak of yellow fever? i recall the name of it but not the cause or >> symptoms tom veale >> > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Genealogy research seems to be impacted by such outbreaks and other dieseases, although wars and straff are more commonly suspected for missing ancestors, which seem to disappear from availabe records. In a message dated 10/4/2012 12:53:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: thanks Julie added to this particular disease in 1952 at theold Quaker church in FALMOUTH THERE WAS A CEMETERY THERE WAS A BURIAL GROUND WITH ABOUT 30 OR SO HEADSTONES DATED FROM THE 1600, TO BE REMOVED, WELL a trial dig turned up nothing so we placed the headstones on the outside walls , i then left England and didn't return for some 10 years .and there the town were, removing all the soil 15 feet high and 50 feet long (ok ok I'm getting to it ) by hand as it was hallowed ground, they found those coffins on bed rock just below the level of the road, here it is every coffin was encased in lead which was the way those who died of the plague all were named FOX there it is for what's its worth Tommy (wish i could be there next Oct and meet Rita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Mosman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Yellow fever outbreak in 1856 > > Hello Tom - Yellow fever is normally a rather tropical disease, isn't it? > Panama canal, and all that. It's still prevalent in Sub-Saharan Africa, I > believe. But it can, and does, appear elsewhere. In fact, we think one > of my relies was killed in such an outbreak - hundreds of persons buried > in a common grave, because the powers-that-be didn't want the news to get > out, and deter people from moving into the area!! (which was swamp-like, > but a center on the main highways.) So there's no record of who was > buried, unfortunately. Yellow fever is a virus spread by mosquitos, and in > the first stage one has a horrendous headache, muscular aches and pains > (as in really bad flu), loss of appetite - and jaundice is common, which > is where it got it's name. The first stage appears about 3 to 6 days > after being bitten. The second stage is remission - it seems all or some > of the symptoms have gone away. Unfortunately, this only lasts a short > time (24 hours). The third stage is that y! > our organs (hearts, kidneys) stop working; seizures, coma, and delirium > may be present. From what I've found out, there isn't a specific > medicine to combat it; doctors use a combination of things to correct > different symptoms. People still die from it! But imagine what it was like > in the 1850's, without all our sulfa drugs, etc. Several curates/vicars > kept record of causes of deaths in the parish records, especially when an > epidemic swept the area, in the early 1800's. Then they were ordered not > to do so! (I'm still unsure why that was done.) But it was reported in > the West Briton, so it has to be true. Right?? <g> Hope this helps, Julia> >> with the amount of deaths in Cornwall on that date i checked and >> apparently >> an outbreak of yellow fever? i recall the name of it but not the cause or >> symptoms tom veale >> > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Yellow fever outbreak in 1856 > Yellow Fever in Cornwall in 1856. Where other such outbreaks reported in > Ireland, Britain, or western Europe? > > Although there is now a vaccine for the disease which has been found in > Central America and also Africa. During construction of the Panama Canal > 1904 - 1914 considerable research was done there to determine the cause > of > Yellow Fever and how to combat it and treat its symptoms. > > A Yellow Fever Epidemic was reported in Philadelphia, PA in 1793. It is > thought that disease arrived with coffee bean shipment from South > America. > > Other nasty epidenmics, possibly early unrecognized Swine-like influenzas > were also found during the 19th century. Cholera was prevalent due to > contaminated water sources, such as those in newly industrialized Cornish > towns, or there may have ben a pre-1904-1914 "Spanish" influenza of some > type, > which returning WWI soldiers contacted in the nasty trenches of France, > or > the dreaded bubonic plague, which did appear worldwide during the 19th > century. . > > Steade > > > In a message dated 10/3/2012 6:26:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > Hello Tom - Yellow fever is normally a rather tropical disease, isn't it? > Panama canal, and all that. It's still prevalent in Sub-Saharan Africa, I > believe. But it can, and does, appear elsewhere. In fact, we think one > of my relies was killed in such an outbreak - hundreds of persons buried > in > a common grave, because the powers-that-be didn't want the news to get > out, > and deter people from moving into the area!! (which was swamp-like, but a > center on the main highways.) So there's no record of who was buried, > unfortunately. Yellow fever is a virus spread by mosquitos, and in the > first > stage one has a horrendous headache, muscular aches and pains (as in > really > bad flu), loss of appetite - and jaundice is common, which is where it > got > it's name. The first stage appears about 3 to 6 days after being bitten. > The second stage is remission - it seems all or some of the symptoms have > gone away. Unfortunately, this only lasts a short time (24 hours). The > third > stage is that y! > our organs (hearts, kidneys) stop working; seizures, coma, and delirium > may be present. From what I've found out, there isn't a specific > medicine > to combat it; doctors use a combination of things to correct different > symptoms. People still die from it! But imagine what it was like in the > 1850's, > without all our sulfa drugs, etc. Several curates/vicars kept record of > causes of deaths in the parish records, especially when an epidemic swept > the area, in the early 1800's. Then they were ordered not to do so! (I'm > still unsure why that was done.) But it was reported in the West Briton, > so it > has to be true. Right?? <g> Hope this helps, Julia> >> with the amount of deaths in Cornwall on that date i checked and > apparently >> an outbreak of yellow fever? i recall the name of it but not the cause > or >> symptoms tom veale >> > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

thanks Julie added to this particular disease in 1952 at theold Quaker church in FALMOUTH THERE WAS A CEMETERY THERE WAS A BURIAL GROUND WITH ABOUT 30 OR SO HEADSTONES DATED FROM THE 1600, TO BE REMOVED, WELL a trial dig turned up nothing so we placed the headstones on the outside walls , i then left England and didn't return for some 10 years .and there the town were, removing all the soil 15 feet high and 50 feet long (ok ok I'm getting to it ) by hand as it was hallowed ground, they found those coffins on bed rock just below the level of the road, here it is every coffin was encased in lead which was the way those who died of the plague all were named FOX there it is for what's its worth Tommy (wish i could be there next Oct and meet Rita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Mosman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] Yellow fever outbreak in 1856 > > Hello Tom - Yellow fever is normally a rather tropical disease, isn't it? > Panama canal, and all that. It's still prevalent in Sub-Saharan Africa, I > believe. But it can, and does, appear elsewhere. In fact, we think one > of my relies was killed in such an outbreak - hundreds of persons buried > in a common grave, because the powers-that-be didn't want the news to get > out, and deter people from moving into the area!! (which was swamp-like, > but a center on the main highways.) So there's no record of who was > buried, unfortunately. Yellow fever is a virus spread by mosquitos, and in > the first stage one has a horrendous headache, muscular aches and pains > (as in really bad flu), loss of appetite - and jaundice is common, which > is where it got it's name. The first stage appears about 3 to 6 days > after being bitten. The second stage is remission - it seems all or some > of the symptoms have gone away. Unfortunately, this only lasts a short > time (24 hours). The third stage is that y! > our organs (hearts, kidneys) stop working; seizures, coma, and delirium > may be present. From what I've found out, there isn't a specific > medicine to combat it; doctors use a combination of things to correct > different symptoms. People still die from it! But imagine what it was like > in the 1850's, without all our sulfa drugs, etc. Several curates/vicars > kept record of causes of deaths in the parish records, especially when an > epidemic swept the area, in the early 1800's. Then they were ordered not > to do so! (I'm still unsure why that was done.) But it was reported in > the West Briton, so it has to be true. Right?? <g> Hope this helps, Julia> >> with the amount of deaths in Cornwall on that date i checked and >> apparently >> an outbreak of yellow fever? i recall the name of it but not the cause or >> symptoms tom veale >> > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List Anyone pursuing THOMAS in Camborne may be interested in an extract from the Will of William THOMAS, written 3 Sep 1799, proved 26 May 1802, which names: sons, William, James and Charles (executors); daughters: Mary, wife of Samuel SHEPARD; Jane, wife of William VINCENT; Grace, wife of Thomas CRASE; Ann, wife of Francis RULE; Elizabeth, wife of John HARRY; Susanna, wife of Richard STONEMAN; wife - Jane; property mentioned in Belena (sic) and Nagoby (sic). If nothing else, this helps to distinguish some of the innumerable offspring of the various William THOMASes in Camborne. This William, whose baptism is elusive, married Jane BENNETTS at Camborne on 25 June 1758. William was buried at Camborne on 17 Feb 1802. Tony Bennett Cheshire, UK

Yellow Fever in Cornwall in 1856. Where other such outbreaks reported in Ireland, Britain, or western Europe? Although there is now a vaccine for the disease which has been found in Central America and also Africa. During construction of the Panama Canal 1904 - 1914 considerable research was done there to determine the cause of Yellow Fever and how to combat it and treat its symptoms. A Yellow Fever Epidemic was reported in Philadelphia, PA in 1793. It is thought that disease arrived with coffee bean shipment from South America. Other nasty epidenmics, possibly early unrecognized Swine-like influenzas were also found during the 19th century. Cholera was prevalent due to contaminated water sources, such as those in newly industrialized Cornish towns, or there may have ben a pre-1904-1914 "Spanish" influenza of some type, which returning WWI soldiers contacted in the nasty trenches of France, or the dreaded bubonic plague, which did appear worldwide during the 19th century. . Steade In a message dated 10/3/2012 6:26:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hello Tom - Yellow fever is normally a rather tropical disease, isn't it? Panama canal, and all that. It's still prevalent in Sub-Saharan Africa, I believe. But it can, and does, appear elsewhere. In fact, we think one of my relies was killed in such an outbreak - hundreds of persons buried in a common grave, because the powers-that-be didn't want the news to get out, and deter people from moving into the area!! (which was swamp-like, but a center on the main highways.) So there's no record of who was buried, unfortunately. Yellow fever is a virus spread by mosquitos, and in the first stage one has a horrendous headache, muscular aches and pains (as in really bad flu), loss of appetite - and jaundice is common, which is where it got it's name. The first stage appears about 3 to 6 days after being bitten. The second stage is remission - it seems all or some of the symptoms have gone away. Unfortunately, this only lasts a short time (24 hours). The third stage is that y! our organs (hearts, kidneys) stop working; seizures, coma, and delirium may be present. From what I've found out, there isn't a specific medicine to combat it; doctors use a combination of things to correct different symptoms. People still die from it! But imagine what it was like in the 1850's, without all our sulfa drugs, etc. Several curates/vicars kept record of causes of deaths in the parish records, especially when an epidemic swept the area, in the early 1800's. Then they were ordered not to do so! (I'm still unsure why that was done.) But it was reported in the West Briton, so it has to be true. Right?? <g> Hope this helps, Julia> > with the amount of deaths in Cornwall on that date i checked and apparently > an outbreak of yellow fever? i recall the name of it but not the cause or > symptoms tom veale > ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Tom - Yellow fever is normally a rather tropical disease, isn't it? Panama canal, and all that. It's still prevalent in Sub-Saharan Africa, I believe. But it can, and does, appear elsewhere. In fact, we think one of my relies was killed in such an outbreak - hundreds of persons buried in a common grave, because the powers-that-be didn't want the news to get out, and deter people from moving into the area!! (which was swamp-like, but a center on the main highways.) So there's no record of who was buried, unfortunately. Yellow fever is a virus spread by mosquitos, and in the first stage one has a horrendous headache, muscular aches and pains (as in really bad flu), loss of appetite - and jaundice is common, which is where it got it's name. The first stage appears about 3 to 6 days after being bitten. The second stage is remission - it seems all or some of the symptoms have gone away. Unfortunately, this only lasts a short time (24 hours). The third stage is that your organs (hearts, kidneys) stop working; seizures, coma, and delirium may be present. From what I've found out, there isn't a specific medicine to combat it; doctors use a combination of things to correct different symptoms. People still die from it! But imagine what it was like in the 1850's, without all our sulfa drugs, etc. Several curates/vicars kept record of causes of deaths in the parish records, especially when an epidemic swept the area, in the early 1800's. Then they were ordered not to do so! (I'm still unsure why that was done.) But it was reported in the West Briton, so it has to be true. Right?? <g> Hope this helps, Julia> > with the amount of deaths in Cornwall on that date i checked and apparently > an outbreak of yellow fever? i recall the name of it but not the cause or > symptoms tom veale >

There has been a large batch of books added to Ancestry yesterday and another last month Amongst them are A History of St Ives, Lelant, Towednack and Zennor The Cornwall Register The Miner's Son (Cornwall) These appear to be the Archive CD Books titles , they are browsable but not as yet searchable Still, any additions always welcome To access, either select View all new records from the home page or select the Card Catalogue from the search menu and search for additions within this month (or September for the previous batch) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser. Friday 15th August, 1856. ADVERTISEMENT - I, JOHN TREGONING, of Black Dog, near Chacewater, will not be answerable for any debts my wife, MARY ANN TREGONING, may contract after this notice. (signed) John Tregoning. (Witness) JAMES STANAWAY. August 14, 1856. NOTICE - All Persons indebted to Mr. RICHARD LANYON, late of Rospeath, in the Parish of Ludgvan, are requested to pay the amount to us, and any persons having any claims on the Deceased, must furnish particulars to us forthwith. GRYLLS, HILL, & HILL, Solicitors for the Executors. Helston, 11th August, 1856. THE EXECUTION OF WILLIAM NEVAN - The execution of William Nevan, a corporal in a company of Pensioners acting as a convict guard on board the Runnymede," in Plymouth Sound, took place at Bodmin on Monday last. He was found guilty, at the late Cornwall Assizes, of the murder of Sergeant-Major ROBINSON, by shooting him. Since the condemnation of the criminal, he had been attended by the Rev. J. R. SHORTLAND, the Roman Catholic Priest of the Cornwall Mission at Bodmin. His demeanour was that of a penitent man; he passed the most of his time in reading and prayer, and appeared to have given up all hopes of a reprieve of his sentence. On the third day after his condemnation, he admitted that the Sergeant Major was not shot by accident, as was pleaded at the trial; but he stated that he had been driven to commit the act by the harshness of Robinson. He appeared fully conscious of the awful position in which he had placed himself by indulgence in violent temper, and said he deserved to suffer his just sentence. He had an interview with his wife on the Friday after he was sentenced to death, and the scene at their parting was heart-rending. He told his wife to bring up their children in the Roman Catholic faith, and to tell them that they should never allow their evil passions to overcome them. His conduct in general displayed great firmness; he slept soundly at night; and when acknowledging to the priest the justness of his sentence, he stated that he had led a religious life up to within the last three years, but had then fallen away through inattention to religious duties. He said he should die happy, being quite prepared. On Sunday last, CALCRAFT, the executioner, arrived at Bodmin by coach from Plymouth, and on Monday morning the condemned culprit had but a few hours to live. Before the time of his leaving the cell he exclaimed, "This is the day of battle; Satan has been tempting me, but I will resist him." The tolling of the prison bell announced to the crowd outside that the melancholy procession to the scaffold was on its way, attended by the priest, and by Mr. KENDALL, the chaplain of the prison and the usual procession of the governor, officials, and turnkeys of the gaol. The prisoners were drawn up on each side, and as the condemned man passed between them, the female prisoners were greatly affected. He was attired in a military undress. He bowed to the crowd of people assembled in front of the gaol, and in a firm voice repeated prayers after the priest, occasionally raising his hands to his breast, on which he wore a cross. He then addressed the assemblage and said, "I admit the justice of my sentence, and am willing to die for it, and may the Lord have mercy on my soul." He said, "three minutes before I shot the man, it came into my mind to shoot him; I turned round and saw him smile, and then I thought I must shoot him." After remaining a few moments in prayer, he exclaimed, "May the Lord have mercy on my soul; holy mother of God and all the saints intercede for me." He shook hands with Calcraft and said "God bless ye, God bless ye." His last words were, "The Lord have mercy on my soul." About three thousand people witnessed the execution; very few of them were of a respectable class, but amongst them were a great many women and children; few, comparatively, were inhabitants of Bodmin. The crowd was a much smaller one than at most former executions at Bodmin. The behaviour of the people, during the last painful scene, was extremely decorous. After the execution was over, the town was crowded with people; a number of stalls had been erected, and the place presented all the appearance of a fair day. We may add, that when Nevan's wife came to see him, a few days after his condemnation, the inhabitants of Bodmin subscribed GBP15 for the relief of herself and children. ECCLESIASTICAL - The Rev. SALTREN ROGERS, on of the younger sons of the late Rev. Canon ROGERS, of Penrose, has been presented by the Dean and Chapter of Exeter, to the vicarage of Gwennap, vacant by the decease of the Rev. W. GILLBEE. BIBLE CHRISTIAN STATIONS FOR CORNWALL - The following are the stations of the Bible Christian ministers for Cornwall:- Penzance, JOHN BROWN, C. BRIDGMAN, and W. MOYSES; Breage, JAMES MOXLEY; Helston, J. KENNEYS and J. POOL; Gwennap, R. SELDON and W. KENNER; Truro, JAMES CHING and W. CLARKE; St. Columb, R. KENT, J. LISLE, and another; Mevagissey, R. P. TABB and T. ALLEN; St. Austell, W. BEER and W. CALLAWAY; Bodmin, JOHN CHING and J. MARTIN; Camelford, J. WOOLDRIDGE and another; Liskeard, W. DENNIS and J. C. HONEY; Looe, C. DENNING; Launceston, E. J. TRIBLE and S. L. THORNE; Callington, M. ROBINS and J. MANNING; Week St. Mary, W. WOOLCOCK and J. GUARD; Kilkhampton, S. CROCKER and H. ELLIS. WADEBRIDGE WRESTLING - A wrestling match took place at Wadebridge on Friday last, which was one of the best and most fairly contested which has been seen in the county for many years. The following is an account of the play. In the first round of standards GILLARD of Gwennap, threw TINK of St. Columb; KINGDON of St. Breward, threw MARTIN of St. Merryn; TREGLOWN of Ludgvan gave his back to POLLARD of Linkinhorne; YELLAND of St. Stephens, threw CAMPS of St. Kew; MOORE, of Wadebridge, threw THOMAS of St. Austell; HOCKING of Wadebridge, threw STEPHENS, of St. Wenn; BULLOCK of St. Austell, threw GLOYNE of Devon; CARLYON of Breage, threw BRANTON of Calstock; SAUNDRY of Wadebridge, threw GREGOR of St. Merryn; JEFFERY of Ludgvan, threw WERRY of St. Austell; LONG of Gwennap, threw SAUNDERS of Wadebridge; LIDDICOAT of St. Columb, gave his back to GILL of Wadebridge; MENEER of St. Austell, threw CROWLE of St. Breward; BASSETT of Padstow, threw KENDALL of Bodmin; OLIVER of Bodmin, THREW Bawden OF St. Stephens; GRIGG of St. Columb, threw JAMES of Lanivet. In the next round, HOCKING threw OLIVER; BULLOOCK threw JEFFERY; POLLARD threw YELLAND, after playing an hour and forty minutes; GILLARD threw BASSETT; CARLYON threw LONG; GRIGG threw MOORE; MENEER threw GILL; and SAUNDRY threw KINGDON. In the next play POLLARD threw BULLOCK; HOCKING threw MENEER; GRIGG threw SAUNDRY; and GILLARD threw CARLOYN. Then GILLARD gave back to POLLARD, and GRIGG threw Hocking; GRIGG then gave his back to POLLARD, and GILLARD threw HOCKING. The Prizes were therefore awarded as follows:- first, Pollard; second, Grigg; third, Gillard; fourth, Hocking. FALMOUTH REGATTA - On Monday last, the Chilian steam corvette "Esmeralda" of 22 guns, arrived at this port from Southampton, and built by PITCHER of Northfleet, for the Chilian Government. She has taken 150 tons of coals, and will proceed on her voyage to Valparaiso, in a few days, touching at Madeira. She had on board Admiral and Captain WILLIAMSON SIMPSON; and will take officers and a great number of men from this port, to complete her complement. The yachts "Mona" and "Countess of Irene" have arrived during the week. BODMIN COUNTY COURT - The usual sitting of this court was held at the Assize Hall, on Wednesday the 13th instant. There were twenty-six cases entered in the plaint book, sixteen of which were settled or withdrawn before the commencement of the court, and the remainder were heard and disposed of by his Honor. Re: LANE, an insolvent. This insolvent, who lately carried on business at Hayle, as hair-dresser and dealer in fancy goods, came up to-day for hearing. He was supported by Mr. THOMAS COMMINS, and opposed by Mr. E. G. HAMLEY, on behalf of Messrs. MARKS and LAZARUS; and Mr. AARON LEVY, of Plymouth, who appeared in person. The grounds of opposition were, fraudulently making away with property and contracting debts without reasonable expectation of payment. Insolvent was cross-examined by Mr. HAMLEY and Mr. LEVY at great length as to the value of his stock-in-trade, and its disposal; but his Honor considering that the opposing creditors had failed in satisfying him, in proof of their grounds of opposition (observing that he was not at all surprised at the creditors opposing, and although they had failed in their opposition he had great suspicion in the matter) ordered the insolvent to be discharged forthwith. Mr. Levy was appointed assignee. HICKS v. KNIGHT - This was an action brought by the plaintiff, Mr. THOMAS HICKS, of Lower Rosewarrick, in the parish of Lanivet, against the defendant, Mr. JAMES KNIGHT, the occupier of the adjoining estate of Higher Rosewarrick, to recover damages sustained by the defendant's sheep trespassing in the month of May last, on a field of the plaintiff's, and injuring and destroying the wheat there growing, by eating thereof and lying and straying thereon. Witnesses were called on each side, whose evidence was very contradictory as to what amount of damages (if any) had been sustained; but his Honor after careful consideration gave a verdict for plaintiff, damages 10s. Mr. THOMAS COMMINS (in the absence of Mr. WALLIS) appeared for plaintiff; and Mr. PEARCE for defendant. GROSE v. LOBB - This was a jury case. The action was brought by Mr. JOHN COLE GROSE, of Bodmin, against the defendant, (his tenant) for the recovery of the sum of GBP20, the amount of damages claimed by the plaintiff, as being sustained by breach, in the years 1855 and 1856, of the covenants entered into by the defendant with the plaintiff, in his indenture of lease of the farm of Kirland, in the borough of Bodmin, in which lease the defendant covenanted to manure on tillage of the land in manner therein specified, and not to carry off from the premises certain produce grown on the farm, but to consume the same thereon. In the year 1855, the defendant broke for tillage certain fields called quarry park, higher home meadow, above town, and mill pool meadow, parcels of the said farm of Kirland, without manuring in compliance with his covenant to manure; and in the year 1856, instead of consuming on the said estate the reed and hay grown thereon, the defendant removed and carried away, or permitted to be removed and carried away, a quantity of reed and hay grown on the farm. The plaintiff, in the absence of his attorney (Mr. PRESTON WALLIS) conducted his own case, and Mr. THOMAS COMMINS appeared for the defendant. The plaintiff proceeded to call the defendant and examine him as to his breach of contract in not manuring on tillage, and as to the sale of hay and reed, but failing to elicit from the defendant any facts in support of his case, and not having any witnesses present in support of his case, he was advised by His Honor to elect a nonsuit, in order to obtain the advice and assistance of Mr. WALLIS, which he consented to do. Plaintiff was nonsuited accordingly. ACCIDENT TO MAJOR GRYLLS. R.A. - We are sorry to hear that a severe accident befell the above officer a few days since. As field-officer of the day he had to visit the night-guards on Woolwich Common, when owing to the darkness of the night, his horse fell over a rope, by which means the gallant officer's shoulder was dislocated and his collar bone broken. We are happy, however, to hear he is progressing favourably. SERIOUS ACCIDENT AT SEA - On Saturday last, as the "Sir Francis Drake," steam-packet, was on her passage to Falmouth, when near the Gibbon Point, off Fowey, a gentleman from London, R. STOCKER, Esq., fell overboard under the following circumstances. His wife had been taken ill of sea-sickness, it being a heavy gale at the time, and Mr. Stocker was in the act of handing a chair to the lady, when a heavy sea struck the ship, which gave a sudden lurch, when he reeled against the bulwarks, and with the shock was precipitated overboard. MICHELL, the man at the helm, immediately perceived him, and threw a lifebuoy out, but the unfortunate gentleman being unable to swim, could not reach it. His life, however, was saved, owing to a singular circumstance; his hat was fortunately attached to some part of his wearing apparel, and on feeling himself sinking, he grasped it with both hands, and the air contained in it rendering the hat strongly buoyant, he was prevented from sinking entirely. The word was given to the captain, and the vessel immediately stopped, when the boat was launched, and arrived just in time to save him from sinking altogether. He was immediately taken on board, and every effort used to restore animation, which after a considerable time was effected. The steward of the "Sir Francis Drake," as well as the chief mate, Mr. PEARSE, indeed one and all, deserve the greatest praise for the manner in which they acted, and we are glad to find that their kindness was acknowledged by a presentation of GBP5 from Mrs. Stocker, to the men who were in the boat, and save her husband's life. GIG ACCIDENT - On Thursday the 7th instant, an accident occurred at Redruth, which although unattended with any very serious consequences, might have been of a very lamentable character. It appears that a horse in a gig belonging to Mr. E. ANGOVE started off at the top of the town, and came down at a furious rate, in his way smashing the gig into atoms, and throwing its occupants into the street. Fortunately there was no one seriously injured, but the gentlemen in the gig were severely bruised. The horse was caught on his way to Hayle, with a port of the shafts of the gig dangling at his heels. FALMOUTH POLICE - On Monday last, ROBERT MARTIN, of Penryn, was charged before Mr. CARNE, mayor, and Messrs. J. ELLIS and J. B. COX, magistrates, with having been drunk and disorderly, and assaulting the constables. Owing to Martin's good character he was fined in the mitigated penalty of 30s., which was paid. JANE STEPHENS and ELIZABETH REPPER, were charged with being found in the streets late at night, and disorderly. Stephens was committed for a fortnight, and Repper for one month. CHILD DROPPING - On the evening of Wednesday the 6th instant, about closing-up time at the St. Austell Union house, a faint cry was heard by the porter, who, on going out, found a fine female child, about five months old, which its unnatural mother had left to the mercy of the public. On its being taken to the house, the matron at once recognised it as an illegitimate child of a young woman of Mevagissey, who had lately left the union. It is stated that the mother has since left the neighbourhood. EXETER DISTRICT COURT OF BANKRUPTCY, Thursday, August 7. - In re: C. V. BRIDGMAN, solicitor, Tavistock. This was a sitting for last examination as adjourned from the 5th of June. Mr. Bridgman said he was under the necessity of asking his Honor for a further adjournment, inasmuch as his balance sheet was not yet filed. The adjournment would be very beneficial to the estate, as some thousands of pounds would be realised beyond what was at first anticipated. He was sorry that there should be so many postponements, but it was necessary in order to make up a balance sheet correctly. He thought he should be ready by the 4th of September. The Commissioner expressed his disappointment at so many adjournments, and said he was given to understand that the balance sheet was not commenced yet. He also added that so many postponements were unsatisfactory to the creditors. Mr. Bridgman said it was impossible to have made out his balance sheet by the present time. The Commissioner said he was first told the accounts were in a satisfactory position, next they would be ready by August, and now the balance sheet had not been commenced. Mr. Bridgman said his Honor must be aware of the character of the bills he had to make out. His Honor said it was impossible now that the examination could be taken before the vacation. Mr. Bridgman remarked that he understood his Honor would be able to take it on the 4th of September. His Honor replied that he was not going to give up his vacation, and the case must therefore stand over until the 9th of October.

Hello, I very likely may have missed this. If so, I apologize for bringing the matter up again. However, has there been a consensus regarding the possibility that the Cornish Rundell and Rundle surnames may be spelling variations of the Cornwall Anglo-Norman Arundell surname? I came across a bit of Internet information indicating that this may be so. Regards, Steade

Hello Pat, Thank you for your response. I found the following information, which may be an estate settlement suit. I do not know if TRIPKUNYN/TRIPCONEY and CRUGOWE are related. (Thomas CRUGOWE, an attorney according to records, was involved in several lawsuits. This is what I transcribed from the English TNA: Plaintiffs: James, son and heir of Walter Tripkunyn Defendants: Robert Tripkunyn and Thomas Crugowe, executors of the said Walter Tripkunyn Subject: Detention of deeds relating to 16 messuages and land in Treyowan, St. Colubm, Trepedannan, and Tripkunyn, Cornwall Covering dates: 1493 - 1500 National Archives, Kew Further, from British Online History, I found this early mention of a Sir Peter Crugow at Landewynnek or Landewedneck, not far from Helston: A. 12086. Feoffment by John Reskemmer to Master Ralph Tregrisiou,rector of the church of Dulo, to Sir Peter Crugow, rector of the church of St. Wynwolaus in Landewynnek, Sir Henry Andreu, rector of the church of Cherdelynch, Thomas Mastely, and John Gerroun, for the term of theirlives, of his manor of Trelowyth, Resincrous, Penpons, Sturte, Porthmenster with the mill of Trelowyth Warheile, or Wartheyle, with the rent and service of Thomas Bailly, guardian of the heir of Henry Riche for lands,&c. in Baghanelen, the rent and service of the said Thomas for land,&c. in Boghanelen, the rent and service of Henry Treworneves forland, &c. in Caerkeryon, the rent and service of John Perou for landin Carngou, the rent and service of Henry Magour for land, &c. inBoscudyn, the rent and service of David Sulghene for land, &c. in Penrynand Treworyan, the rent and service of Michael Carsckes for land, &c. inCarsckes, the rent and service of James Kerow for land, &c. in Kerow, therent and service of William Oliver for land, &c. in Gaer, and of their heirs;rent, 1d. at Michaelmas. Witnesses:—John and William Bevyle, William Polherman. Reskemmer, Saturday before Michaelmas, 49 Edward III.Seal of arms, broken. Cf. A. 10422. From: 'Deeds: A.12001 - A.12100', A Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds: Volume 5 (1906), pp. 228-242. URL: _http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=64443&amp;strquery=crugow_ (http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=64443&amp;strquery=crugow) Date accessed: 02 October 2012. I do not know if CRUGOW(E) surname evolved into CREGOE or CRAGOE. There does appear in that there is a familial relationship between the two surnames in St. Columb Major, St Just in Roseland, and Gerrans parishes. Best regards, Steade In a message dated 9/30/2012 10:54:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: The TRIPKUNYN could be TRIPCONEY but the ones I know of came from the Gunwalloe area - near helston. Cheers Pat On 1/10/2012 11:42 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Hello, > > I have doing some genealogical research in St. Columb Parish. In the > British National Archives online documents, I have come across two unusual > Cornish surnames in land title court cases relative to Thomas Crugowe and his > family. These are Richard TOMYOV and the TRIPKUNYN surname in 15th century > records. I have not found them in later parish records, so I wonder if > they might be Cornish spellings rather than English. > > > Is anyone research Richard FORD and John and his father, Richard, KENDALL > in the same parish? > > > And, is there any chance that CRUGOWE surname may be a variant spelling of > CARMINOW? > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My TRIPCONEY's are from Budock. Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Banks Sent: Monday, 1 October 2012 1:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] St Columb P. Families 15th & 16th c TOMYOV, TRIPKUNY, FORD, KENDALL, CARMINOW. The TRIPKUNYN could be TRIPCONEY but the ones I know of came from the Gunwalloe area - near helston. Cheers Pat On 1/10/2012 11:42 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Hello, > > I have doing some genealogical research in St. Columb Parish. In the > British National Archives online documents, I have come across two > unusual Cornish surnames in land title court cases relative to Thomas > Crugowe and his family. These are Richard TOMYOV and the TRIPKUNYN > surname in 15th century records. I have not found them in later > parish records, so I wonder if they might be Cornish spellings rather than English. > > > Is anyone research Richard FORD and John and his father, Richard, > KENDALL in the same parish? > > > And, is there any chance that CRUGOWE surname may be a variant > spelling of CARMINOW? > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message