Dear List, I wonder if someone would help with a problem I have had for years: I had found William ROWE(18 Aug 1776 of Redruth,) who is the child of William ROWE(b.24 May, 1752)and Susannah ROWE born in Redruth Parish on 18 Aug 1776 . His parents,  William and Susannah ROWE married on 16 Dec 1775 in Redruth. I have documentation for all of the above. Now - I cannot find where William Sr. was from. I also found who I think is their children and found a Francis ROWE (1777-1780); Richard ROWE (1779); Francis ROWE (1784); and Elizabeth ROWE (3 Feb 1799). All were born in Redruth Parish. I have been suspecting for a long time that Susannah was a MICHELL  and her parents was either Henry  MICHELL and Ursula(Usilly) PASCOE or Susannah is the female born 09 Nov 1754 in Redruth, to Francis MICHELL and Mary (?); all from Redruth. I also suspect that William ROWE is the son of Phillip ROWE(1711 and ELizabeth PEARCE of Camborne.  It seems that that William fits in. but I am not sure at this point. Why wouldn't William not name one of his children after his father or grandfather? I have searched for all William ROWES from around that area and found most had married other women or the dates or places were not candidates for my William because of the parishes in which they lived. Does anyone have any information to help me figure out this problem? Any help would be appreciated. Judy

I don't think so Jan. Mine were copper miners in Chacewater. The earliest I have in John Uren b abt 1770 m Mary Rule. Their son John b abt 1792 m Ann Hawke at Kenwyn Of their 10 children all but Elizabeth Ann poss chr 1817 migrated to Australia. Elizabeth may have married Joel Scoble so her descendants wouldn't have been Uren. For your interest, the only 3 Uren boys came to Australia and were thenceforth spelt as YOURN !! The girls all married. I notice that you are in Oz, so it is of course possible that you descend from John b1832, my Thomas b1834 or Samuel George b 1837. If any of this sounds at all of interest to you, do get back to me. Marg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Ashwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 NEWS > My URENS are from ST Ives . Cornwall , any connection with that town > ??Janet > , (nee UREN) ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marg & Neil Andrews" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:41 PM > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 NEWS > >> And it is with great sadness for me, that the posts have reached the end >> of >> 1856 as I think that my >> UREN lot will have all left Cornwall by then, and so I am not likely to >> find >> anything on them any more. >> I very much appreciate the efforts of all those who have worked to >> produce >> these newspaper items >> so thank you all. I think I might hang around a little while longer >> though >> as I will miss the lovely stories ! >> Marg Andrews Qld Oz.

Hello again, Meli (and others). Unless I have my lists muddled, the SA list has recently run an extensive thread on cornish immigrants to SA, so I suggest joining that list; you could search their archives, too. All the best, Phoebe

Hi, Listers, Harold James Withiel PHILLIPS, b. 1880 Redruth, son of James Withiel PHILLIPS and his second wife, Hester Ann HODGE Oppy/Oppy, married Edith MARTIN. With their baby daughter Charlotte, they moved from Cornwall to South Africa in 1906. Charlotte’s grand daughter states: I was always told that he was a mine captain and met an untimely end by being thrown down a mine shaft. I do have his gold pocket watch with a dent in the case. I am unsure of date of death but it must of been around 1910 as Edith remarried and had more children, the first being twins in 1912. If anyone knows how I can investigate this mine accident further and perhaps gather details and exact dates, it would be appreciated. Also, is there a way to learn where in South Africa they went and when? I am so excited because my posting here as well as in Cornish newsletters, etc, around the world is bringing more and more contacts of descendants who plan to come to our First International PHILLIPS of Nance Cornish Clan Gathering in Falmouth next April. For more information, please contact me via email. Also, is there a Cornish society in South Africa? Blessings, Meli in Texas

Hi Joy and Julia In Cornwall in 1955, a points system operated for allocating university maintenance grant funding, including tuition fees. It's a long time ago. I hope my memory is accurate. The top examination grade was 1. If one obtained three grade 3 results or higher at the Advanced Level exams one was awarded automatically a County Scholarship . I got two grade 3 and one grade 4, and was granted an County Exhibition following an interview at County Hall, Truro. Those with a grade 3 and two grade 4's or less, got nothing. The amount of the grant was identical for Scholarships and Exhibitions. They were subject to parental means testing. Other grant awards were State Scholarships, granted after passing special examinations, and were financially better than the County awards, and more prestigious. Nowadays.......... Francis Dr Francis E Dunstan, On 06/12/2012 10:25, Joy Langdon wrote: > Hi Julia, > > Its the first time I have come across the word used in this sense too. Chambers Dictionary has "an allowance or bounty to scholars in a university" and there is an entry on Wikipedia: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_(scholarship) > > Joy > > ________________________________ > From: Julia Mosman <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 8:22 > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton 12 Dec 1856 - Local Intelligence > > > If I may ask, what's the meaning of the phrase "..There are two exhibitions at Exeter College, Oxford, attached to the Truro [school]" Would these be some sort of scholarships? Julia > > ................................................................................................. > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2634/5937 - Release Date: 12/04/12 > > >

Hi Julia,   Its the first time I have come across the word used in this sense too.  Chambers Dictionary has "an allowance or bounty to scholars in a university" and there is an entry on Wikipedia:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_(scholarship)   Joy ________________________________ From: Julia Mosman <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 8:22 Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton 12 Dec 1856 - Local Intelligence If I may ask, what's the meaning of the phrase "..There are two exhibitions at Exeter College, Oxford, attached to the Truro [school]"  Would these be some sort of scholarships?  Julia .................................................................................................

Yes!!!!!! Pat On 5/12/2012 4:22 PM, Julia Mosman wrote: > If I may ask, what's the meaning of the phrase "..There are two exhibitions at Exeter College, Oxford, attached to the Truro [school]" Would these be some sort of scholarships? Julia > > ................................................................................................. > > WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER > 12 December, 1856 > . > A CHRISTMAS TREE AND MAGIC LANTERN > . > Will be exhibited on the 23rd instant, at the Polytechnic Hall, Falmouth, in aid of the fund of the Scripture reader's Society. The doors to open at Four p.m. > . > Admission to Christmas Tree, 6d., to Magic Lantern, 3d. > . . . . . . > . > A BALL Will be given at the GUILDHALL, Bodmin, in aid of the FUNDS of the East Cornwall Hospital, on Tuesday the 23rd of December, 1856. > . > Lady Patronesses, > Right Hon. Lady VIVIAN..............Lady ONSLOW > The Hon. Mrs. BRUNE.................Mrs. AGAR ROBARTES > Mrs. GRAVES SAWLE...................Mrs. GILBERT > Mrs. PEARD > > Stewards > The Worshipful the Mayor of Bodmin > The Right Honourable Lord VIVIAN > Sir Henry ONSLOW, Bart. > T.J. AGAR ROBARTES, Esq., M.P, > W. MICHELL, Esq., M.P. > C.B. GRAVES SAWLE, Esq., M.P. > C.G. PRIDEAUX BRUNE, Esq. > Edward COLLINS, Esq. > Colonel GILBERT > Captain PEARD, R.C.R. > Captain WYMOND HAMLEY, R.N. > Lieut. LIDDELL, R.N. > Lieut. NORWAY, R.N. > . > Dancing to commence at Nine o'clock > Ladies' Tickets..........5s///Gentlemen's Tickets........6s. > Tickets to be procured at Messrs. LIDDELL's LIBRARY, and at OLIVER's Royal Hotel. > Dated Bodmin, December 10th, 1856 > . . . . . . > . > ROYAL HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY OF CORNWALL > The TWENTY FIFTH ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING of the Members of this Society, for the Election of Officers, &c., for the ensuing year, will be held at the Horticultural Room, at the Royal Institution, Truro, on Monday the 15th day of December instant, at Noon. > . . . . . . > ORANGES FOR SALE > A Cargo of ORANGES of fine quality from Figueira, arrived at Falmouth. > For particulars, apply to G.C. And R.W. Fox, and Co., Falmouth. > Falmouth, 9th of 12th Month, 1856 > . . . . . > . > TRURO GRAMMAR SCHOOL > HEAD MASTER - CHARLES DURNFORD NEWMAN, M.A. > WADHAM COLLEGE, OXFORD > Terms for Boarders, 40 Guineas Per Annum > . > Boys at this School are prepared for the Public Schools and Universities, for the Naval, Military, and other Professions, and for Commercial pursuits. > . > The regular course of Instruction includes the Classics, Mathematics, French, and the various branches of a sound English Education. All studies are under the immediate Superintendence of the Head Master, who took honours at Oxford in Classics and Mathematics, and who has had more than twelve years' experience in the management of a school. > . > Drawing, Music, Dancing, and Drilling on moderate terms. > . > The climate of Truro is very mild and salubrious, and is well suited to persons of delicate constitutions. > The greatest attention is paid by Mr. and Mrs. Newman to the comfort and health of the Boarders, who enjoy, at a remarkably cheap rate, the advantages of residence in a private family, together with those of a good Grammar School. > . > There are two exhibitions at Exeter College, Oxford, attached to the Truro Grammar School, of the annual value of GBP 30 each, open to all (boarders as well as day boys) who have been at the school for three years. > . > A quarter's notice is required before the removal of a pupil. > The school will RE-OPEN after the Christmas vacation on Monday February 2nd. > . > Further particulars may be known on application to the Head Master; or to Mrs. Heard and Sons, Booksellers, Truro. > . . . . . > . > LOCAL INTELLIGENCE > . > CALLINGTON - An amateur concert was given at Golding's Assembly-room, for the benefit of the Reading-rooms, on Tuesday last, which was fashionably and fully attended. The amateurs of the town were assisted by the Liskeard Glee and Madrigal Union, and by some gentlemen of Launceston and Landulph. The pieces performed, both vocal and instrumental, elicited much applause, and several of them were heartily encored and kindly responded to. > . > ST. JUST INSTITUTION - On Monday last, an admirable lecture "On the Writings of Quarles" was delivered at this institution by Mr. R. BOYNS, jun. > . > TRURO TOWN COUNCIL - A meeting of the council took place on Tuesday last, when there were present the Mayor, Mr. E. MICHELL, and Messrs. CHAPPEL, ROUSE, JOB, PASCOE, THOMAS, HALL, HEARD, PASSINGHAM, BARLOW, UGLOW, CLYMA, STOKES, GATLEY, S.T. WILLIAMS, SOLOMON, and SPRY. (part cut out as boring - regarding a donated clock) > . > The council next resolved itself into a watch committee for police matters; when it was proposed that WOOLCOCK, who had been in the force seventeen years, with only one complaint alleged against him during that time, should be made a sergeant, and his pay increased from 14s. to 18s.6d. per week; that police constables PAPPIN and GAY should have their pay increased to 16s.6d. per week each; and that the pay of the superintendent, Mr. NASH, should be increased to 31s.6d. per week; also that the two policemen then to be appointed should receive 14s.6d. per week for the first twelvemonths, and 16s.6d. per week afterwards; and that all the police should allow 6d. a week out of their pay to form a fund applicable in cases of sickness, or of any of the force being disabled. > . > This proposition was moved by Mr. Stokes, and seconded by Mr. Spry. Mr. Heard moved the following amendment: That in the present embarrassed state of the revenues of the council, it is most improper to charge the town funds with any further increased fixed salaries; but there being no seconder, the amendment fell to the ground. A division was then taken on the original motion, when there voted for it Messrs. Rouse, Job, Pascoe, Thomas, Hall, Passingham, Barlow, Uglow, Clyma, Gatley, Stokes, S.T. Williams, and Spry; against it, Messrs. Chappel and Heard; Mr. Solomon did not vote. > . > William MARTIN, of St. Cleer, and George BIDDICK, of Probus, were then elected policemen in the place of PRATER, who has been appointed to Falmouth, and VINCENT, who was dismissed. > . > In the course of the meeting a long conversation took place in reference to the clauses in the police act relating to the superannuation fund; eventually it was thought desirable that the matter should be deferred till a future meeting. > . > APPOINTMENT - We observe that Mr. Edwyn ANDREW, M.B., son of Mr. B. ANDREW, of St. Austell, is the successful candidate for the post of assistant-surgeon to St. Pancras Infirmary, and has had the honour to be elected without one dissentient vote. We understand that this is a position of considerable responsibility, as well as a wide field for experience, there being little less than four hundred beds. > . > THE CUSTOMS - Mr. Richard GILL, of Penryn, has been appointed extra clerk to the customs of London, and has passed the usual examination. > . > DEATH OF A CENTENARIAN - On Monday last the death of Mrs. Elizabeth CURGENVEN took place at her residence in Lemon-street, Truro. She was born on the 1st of May, 1752, and consequently at the time of her death was in her 105th year. She was eight years old at the time of the death of George the Second, and has therefore lived in five reigns of the Sovereigns of England, and through a period of vast changes and events of momentous historical importance in the world's history. Mrs. Curgenven was the widow of a naval officer, Capt. Curgenven, and was sister of the late Rev. J. POMERY, vicar of St. Kew, in this county. We are informed that although she had arrived at this extraordinary age, she retained the unclouded use of her intellect and faculties until the day of her death. > . > COMPLAINT OF A ST.AUSTELL BUTCHER - We stated that last week, Mr. Richard WILLIAMS, butcher, of St. Austell, was fined at the petty sessions 10s. for persisting, after several warnings, in hanging meat outside his door on market days. Mr. Williams now writes us a letter, admitting that he was fined, but stating that the place in question is within the boundary of his shop front, and that there is a strong feeling expressed by the respectable inhabitants of the town in his behalf. He says,"I am a native of this town, of the age of fifty-three, and have been a butcher about thirty-four or thirty-five years, have kept a shop for that business during nearly the whole of those years, and have exposed goods for sale during that time in a much worse way than on this occasion."] > . > He states that other shopkeepers are allowed to hang out what they please; that he called three respectable witnesses to testify that in his case it was no encroachment on the footpath or any nuisance, there being a policeman's word on the contrary side; and he encloses in his letter a very small crook which he says is one of those he hangs meat to. He complains that there is an animus against him with certain persons, and that he was consequently fined and published in the West Briton. > . > We know nothing of the actual merits of Mr. Williams's case; but the presumption is that the magistrates would fully inquire into it, and decide according to the best of their judgment. > . > FALMOUTH POLICE - On Wednesday, before the Mayor Mr. S. BLIGHT, and Messrs. CARNE and ELLIS, magistrates, Amelia PEARCE was charged with being drunk and fighting with another woman, for which she was sentenced to a month's imprisonment in the borough jail. > . > Richard SMITH, belonging to the "British Queen," was charged with an assault, but the complainant not appearing, Smith was discharged. > . > Two sailors, called Thomas PEARCE and Frederick OLIVER, were taken to the lock-up for creating a disturbance in the street, and damaging goods in the window of Mr. GENN, jeweller. They compromised the matter by paying GBP 2.15s.for the damage; Mr. Genn did not press the charge. > . > THE ST. AUSTELL POLICE - We have received the following in reference to the police of this town: > . > "Sir, A letter having appeared in your paper of the 28th ult., in which it is stated that the policemen can never be found when they are wanted, except at some petty quarrel or a public-house, this charge is grossly false, as well as the malicious charges made against them respecting their conduct on the 5th of November last. I hope after this, that "Pro Bono Publico" will be sufficiently honest not to withhold his name, unless his object is to do the policemen an injury just at this time when the New Police Act is about to come into operation. I am, sir, your obedient servant, JOHN WESTLAKE, one of the Policemen of St. Austell." > . > STEALING FROM A PAWNBROKER - On Tuesday last, a woman named Betsey FRANCIS, was committed on a charge of stealing a coat from a pawnbroker's shop at Redruth. She took the coat from the shelf where it had been placed, while the pawnbroker turned his back to write the ticket, and immediately took it to another pawnbroker's, and pawned it, where it was discovered by the police. > . > AN EXPERT THIEF - On Monday last, a woman named Elizabeth CHAMPION, living at Camborne, was committed to Bodmin by Mr. J.P. MAGOR, county magistrate, on a charge of stealing a silk handkerchief from Mr. COCKING, of Redruth. On the prisoner's lodgings being searched, a large quantity of wearing apparel of every description was found in her possession, including silk dresses, bonnets, ribbons, shawls, stockings, mantles, broadcloth and clogs, with a host of other articles, many of which have been identified by the shopkeepers of Redruth. > . > CHARGE OF STEALING TIN - At the West Penwith Petty Sessions, on the 3rd instant, before Colonel SCOBELL, Mr. D.P. LeGRICE, and Mr. T.S. BOLITHO, a charge was preferred by Edward HARVEY, of St. Just in Penwith, against John THOMAS, stamps foreman, William WATTERS, John ROWE, William CASLEY, and James TASKUS, miners, for stealing 14 cwt. of tin, his property, on the 22nd of November. Mr. DOWNING of Redruth appeared for the prosecutor, and Mr. MILLETT for the defendants. > . > As there was no evidence against Taskus, he was discharged. > . > Edward HARVEY stated that he streamed a river belonging to Mr. WARREN, of Tregeseal, in St. Just; he did so under a written grant from Warren dated April 7th. On the 2nd of last May he received a notice from Warren that he was no longer to stream in that river. He had then about sixty sacks in his working house, and notwithstanding the notice, he went on working till September, Warren not endeavouring to prevent him. > . > Mr. Bennett owns stamps at Pendeen, and witness took the tin to John Thomas, the foreman of the stamps, to be dressed. The tin, it appeared from further evidence, was afterwards removed. After several witnesses had been called for prosecutor, Mr. Millett said it was a case of disputed ownership of the tin, and he called John BENNETT, the lessee of the stamps under Mr. John BORLASE. He said that in consequence of a notice from Warren that the tin in question had been illegally moved from his estate at Tregeseal, he gave directions that it should not be given up. > . > On the 16th or 17th of November, his foreman, Thomas, told him that Harvey had been over and taken away the whole of the tin then dressed, 5 or 6 cwt., and he told Thomas they should want assistance to secure the tin for Warren. > . > On cross-examination by Mr. Downing, the witness said the notice by Warren was given him at Hemmings's Three Tuns Inn; Messrs. S.H. JAMES, R.V. DAVY, J. BOYNE, S. HIGGS, and W. BORLASE were there. Witness informed Harvey that the tin was to be removed to Penzance. He declined to answer some of the questions, but he said persons told him the tin was to be safely lodged at Mr. Davy's. > . > Mr. Millett declined calling any of the other witnesses in attendance. Mr. Downing, in his speech, threatened to indict certain pursers, &c., for conspiracy. The magistrates committed the four defendants for trial at the next assizes; they were bailed by Mr. W. BALL and J.B. COULSON in GBP 100 each. > . > FIRE NEAR LAUNCESTON - On Thursday the 4th inst., a fire broke out on Tiphill farm, near Druselton, about three miles from Launceston. It threatened to be very destructive in its consequences, as there were several mows of good corn on the farm and near it. Much damage was, however, done, not to the the corn, but to the house at Tiphill, and the adjoining one belonging to Mr. BANBURY. Both were literally burnt to the ground. > . > It seems almost miraculous that not one ear of corn was touched; but this, in a great measure, was owing to the wind. By great exertion, the flames were overcome; but not till the abovementioned damage had been done. No injuries of a personal nature have been sustained; and it is hoped that no cattle have met with any injury. The fire caused considerable alarm. It is said to have originated with the flue of Tiphill house catching fire. > . > MELANCHOLY ACCIDENT - Intelligence has been received that Mr. John HICHENS, assistant-surgeon of H.M. Steamer, "Sphinx," and son of Mr. John HICHENS of Redruth, was drowned in the Bay of Buhtri, in the Bosphorus, on the 6th ult. He went on shore to spend the day at a village in company with the purser. They dined together, but afterwards separated, and the purser returned to the ship. Mr. Hichens was seen on the quay in the evening, waiting to go on board. Nothing more was known of him till six days afterwards, when his body was found drowned, with the money he had in his pocket. The night was very boisterous and it is supposed a gust of wind swept him off the quay when no one was near to assist. > . > Before going to the Black Sea, he had been in the Baltic, and was present at the assault of Bomarsund, and at most of the naval attacks on Sebastopol, Eupatoria, Kinburn, Kertch, &c. He was twenty-five years of age, and his parents were anticipating the pleasure of seeing him after a long separation, when the afflicting intelligence arrived of his death. > . > FATAL ACCIDENT - An accident, terminating fatally, occurred on Saturday morning last at Tregolls, the residence of Sir Samuel SPRY, near Truro. Masons were employed there, and scaffolding erected, but it appears not securely. The men had returned from their breakfast, when on mounting the scaffold, a portion of it gave way; through which a mason called George HALSE, a youth named ALLEN, son of Joseph ALLEN, carrier, and a lad named TRENERRY, son of David TRENERRY, a mason, were precipitated to the ground from the height of between thirty and forty feet. Another man called DUNN, a carpenter, who was on the scaffolding at the same time, saved himself by laying hold of a pole. > . > The mason, George Halse, had his thigh and several ribs broken, besides internal injuries. The two lads also were thought at the time to be seriously injured, but we have since been informed that they are not very much hurt. Halse was at once taken to the Royal Cornwall Infirmary, where he died on Wednesday morning last. It is stated that the mason, Trenerry, before he left the place that morning to go into Truro, had cautioned the others not to go upon the scaffold until it was better secured. An inquest was held on the body of George Halse, before Mr. J. CARLYON, on Wednesday, when a verdict of "accidental death" was returned. > . > COMMITTAL FOR MURDER AT SEA [condensed] > During a S.W. Gale on Sunday night last, the "Mars." from Dundee, Capt. James BURN, master, arrived at Mount's Bay, having been nearly nine weeks out from Cuba. The brig was laden with rum and sugar, and was leaky. She stood off and on in a very critical position, and in imminent danger, a Mousehole boat with branch pilots named PERRACK and HARVEY went off, and succeeded in boarding the brig, and in bringing her safely into the harbour on Monday. > . > A rumour soon spread that the captain had ill-treated a boy on the homeward voyage; and on Tuesday an information was laid against the captain by some of the crew, and he was taken into custody. > . > The first witness called was the mate of the vessel, John BLAIR, of Dundee, who stated they sailed from Dundee on the 5th of April last, and put into Lowestoffe about the 20th of May, and there took on board the boy ROBERT BEERCROFT, who was about fourteen years of age, and healthy, although not strong. > . > The ship arrived at Guatemala on the 14th of August. The boy was of good character, and was very well treated by all hands on the voyage out. He was a little backward in his work at times. They left Cuba the 9th of October on their homeward voyage. The boy had been ill in St. Jago for a short time, but he had taken some medicine from the captain and was well again. > . > Five days out, he complained of a headache, and could not do his work. He did it as well as he could because the captain called him out to do it, and if he did not get along the captain would give him a wallopping. He beat him five or six times on different days, with a bit of rope's end. The captain gave him a dose of salts and two doses of caster oil during the days he beat him. He had the second dose of castor oil on the 21st October, and the boy then said to the captain, in my presence, that he had eaten nothing for four days. > . > [About five or six o'clock, the boy brought a lamp up to James ALDRIDGE, the man at the helm, who then lighted it. At that time, the captain called the boy down to wipe up some oil the boy had spilled while trying to light the lamp. The boy was then beaten, and when he came on deck said he could not go down again. The captain called several times for the boy, but did not hear what the mate told him. The captain told the mate to beat the boy, and the mate refused. The captain then called the boy to bring him tea, and the boy called down the companion that he was not able to do so. The captain was about as far from the boy as the mate was, and so should have heard him. > . > The mate carried down the meat himself and put it on the table, believing the boy was incapacitated. The captain said "let the boy do it." He had been drinking. > . > The mate carried down the tea. The captain then went to the deck and beat the boy with a rope - a bit of rattling line, about his sides.] > . > I called out, "do not strike the boy any more; he is not able." The boy said, "I must die." John DAVIDSON, the man at the wheel, helped him to his berth. I saw no more of him until half-past seven the next morning, when I saw him lying on his face, dead. The body was stiff, and one side of his head was all blue in a solid mass; his legs were blue in stripes, and his sides and body blue and red. He had nothing but his shirt on. There was blood in his mouth. The captain was there, and I said "the body is in an awful mess." The captain said "so he is." He then told me to sew him up in some canvas, which I did, and at noon the body was put over the side with a piece of chain attached to it. > . > James ALDRIDGE, the cook, said the boy was well when they left Cuba early in October. About nine or ten days afterwards, he complained of a sick headache; I could see that he was very ill. During the voyage out, and until his death, he was cruelly used by the master. I have heard his cries in the cabin, when there was no one there but the captain and the boy. > . > On the day before his death the boy said to me he had eaten nothing for four days. [He confirmed the evidence given by the mate, about the extended beating given the boy just before his death, and confirmed the captain had been drinking, but might not be considered completely drunken. When the boy protested that he could not get the grinding stone from beneath the long-boat, and asked the cook to do so, the captain said "d..n your eyes, you are better able to get about the decks than I am, you had better jump overboard." Heard the captain tell the mate to beat the boy, and heard the mate refuse. When the captain called the boy into the cabin, heard the boy screaming, but did not hear what was said because of the wind blowing hard. The captain kept a piece of tarry rope, about an inch and a half round and two and a half or three feet long, in the cabin for the purpose of beating the boy. The captain would send the boy into the cabin for this piece of tarry rope, for the cap! ta! > in to beat him with.] > . > Four seamen on board were called who gave evidence in corroboration of the preceding. John DAVISON gave the most compelling testimony, citing the boy could not walk, nor go down the companion ladder after being beaten by the captain. The captain was drunk at the time. James DRYDEN said he saw marks on the boy's body, as if by a rope. He found the boy lying half in and half out of the roundhouse; the boy said he had been beaten by the captain, and that he wanted to be laid out on the deck for fresh air. It was raining. He had no coat, and his drawers were hanging over his legs; he could not bend his legs. As it was raining, Dryden decided to put the boy in his berth. The boy had lost all feeling and control of his legs, and could not lie on his right side or back because of wounds. > . > He said to the boy, "you are dying." The boy replied, "yes, Jim, I'm dying, but the master won't let me lie long." I told him to lie still, and said I would have the captain punished when I got to England. The boy said, "you will - you won't forget to have him punished when you get home." > . > I left him in his berth, and the next morning saw him dead. That night we secured some casks that had got adrift; the captain was then intoxicated. He was a fine boy, and civil to the master and the ship's company. > . > John SOMERVILLE and William ANDERSON gave corroborating evidence, after which the depositions were read over and signed, and the charge was altered from one of beating and ill-usage to a charge of murder. On Wednesday the prisoner was brought to Truro, and lodged in the borough gaol, and on Thursday he was conveyed to the county prison at Bodmin, to await his trial. > . > ADMIRALTY COURT (Before Dr. Lushington) > This was a suit promoted by Mr. R. NEWMAN, of St. Mary's, Scilly, against Mr. R.C. VENN, of Port Adelaide, to obtain possession of the brig "Empress" of the burden of 257 tons. > . > Mr. Newman alleged that he purchased her in the early part of the year 1847 of Mr. GREENWELL, of Sunderland, for the sum of GBP 2,700; that, having duly obtained a British register, he navigated her to the Mediterranean; that in July, 1850, he appointed his son as her master, who in December, 1851, sailed from London with a general cargo of merchandise bound for Algoa Bay, and thence on a trading voyage as to the master should seem most advantageous for her owner's interest; that the brig never again returned to England until she arrived in London on the 5th of July, 1855, when she came in charge of Mr. WOODWARD, as master, and the plaintiff arrested her. > . > Mr. Venn, in his answer, stated that in February, 1853, having been informed of the arrival of the brig in Port Adelaide, and, being desirous of purchasing a vessel of her description, he obtained an interview with the master, who represented that he was Richard NEWMAN, and that he was sole owner. Mr. Venn agreed or purchase her for GBP 2,000, and on the certificate of registry being produced, which described Richard Newman the master and sole owner as being one and the same person, a bill of sale was drawn up, and, on the money being paid, duly executed. Upon the completion of the purchase the certificate of registry and also the bill of sale were produced, and delivered to the authorities of the custom-house at Port Adelaide for the purpose of her being registered de novo. The authorities, having inspected the same, granted a new certificate of registry. > . > Shortly after the sale, Richard Newman purchased another vessel at Port Adelaide, and for upwards of 5[?] years traded therewith to various places in that locality. > . > After Mr. Venn had purchased the "Empress," she made several intermediate voyages, and in February, 1855, sailed for London. The cargo having been discharged and the crew paid, she was arrested. Mr. Newman, sen., on one occasion, saw Mr. Woodward, to whom he admitted, as alleged by Mr. Venn, that he had authorized his son to sell the vessel, but as he had never sent him the money, he meant to have the ship again. That was the first time that any intimation was given that Richard Newman, the sole owner, and Richard Newman, the master, were not one and the same person. > . > Mr. Venn submitted that Mr. Newman, sen., having omitted to have the name of his son duly endorsed on the ship's certificate as master, was wholly answerable for the consequences of such neglect, and could not now claim possession of the brig; that after her purchase, her various sailings and arrivals were duly advertised, but Mr. Newman, sen., took no steps to assert his pretended claim, which he might have done by communicating with his agents in Australia and elsewhere. > . > Dr. ADDAMS was heard for Newman; the Queen's Advocate and Dr. DEANE for Mr. Venn. > . > The court reserved its judgment on the first hearing, which was on the 28th of November, but a decision has since been given favourable to Capt. Newman, as the following report, which appeared in Saturday's London paper, shews: The Empress - Possession - Sentence -. > . > The question that arose in this case was whether Mr. Richard Newman, of St. Mary's, Scilly, had given his son, Mr. Richard Newman, jun., power to sell the vessel to the party proceeded against, Mr. R.C. Venn, of Adelaide, in Australia, who had given him GBP 2,000 for her. Dr. Lushington said the sale had been brought about by the fraudulent representations of Richard Newman, jun., that he was the owner of the vessel. It was, in fact, a sale effected by forgery and fraud, and such a sale could never divest the original owner of his title. It was no doubt a great misfortune to Mr. Venn to have parted with his money; that was a misfortune to which all persons were liable who became the victim of forgery and fraud. The court must decree possession to Mr. Newman, sen., but it was certainly not a case for costs. > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

If I may ask, what's the meaning of the phrase "..There are two exhibitions at Exeter College, Oxford, attached to the Truro [school]" Would these be some sort of scholarships? Julia ................................................................................................. WEST BRITON AND CORNWALL ADVERTISER 12 December, 1856 . A CHRISTMAS TREE AND MAGIC LANTERN . Will be exhibited on the 23rd instant, at the Polytechnic Hall, Falmouth, in aid of the fund of the Scripture reader's Society. The doors to open at Four p.m. . Admission to Christmas Tree, 6d., to Magic Lantern, 3d. . . . . . . . A BALL Will be given at the GUILDHALL, Bodmin, in aid of the FUNDS of the East Cornwall Hospital, on Tuesday the 23rd of December, 1856. . Lady Patronesses, Right Hon. Lady VIVIAN..............Lady ONSLOW The Hon. Mrs. BRUNE.................Mrs. AGAR ROBARTES Mrs. GRAVES SAWLE...................Mrs. GILBERT Mrs. PEARD Stewards The Worshipful the Mayor of Bodmin The Right Honourable Lord VIVIAN Sir Henry ONSLOW, Bart. T.J. AGAR ROBARTES, Esq., M.P, W. MICHELL, Esq., M.P. C.B. GRAVES SAWLE, Esq., M.P. C.G. PRIDEAUX BRUNE, Esq. Edward COLLINS, Esq. Colonel GILBERT Captain PEARD, R.C.R. Captain WYMOND HAMLEY, R.N. Lieut. LIDDELL, R.N. Lieut. NORWAY, R.N. . Dancing to commence at Nine o'clock Ladies' Tickets..........5s///Gentlemen's Tickets........6s. Tickets to be procured at Messrs. LIDDELL's LIBRARY, and at OLIVER's Royal Hotel. Dated Bodmin, December 10th, 1856 . . . . . . . ROYAL HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY OF CORNWALL The TWENTY FIFTH ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING of the Members of this Society, for the Election of Officers, &c., for the ensuing year, will be held at the Horticultural Room, at the Royal Institution, Truro, on Monday the 15th day of December instant, at Noon. . . . . . . ORANGES FOR SALE A Cargo of ORANGES of fine quality from Figueira, arrived at Falmouth. For particulars, apply to G.C. And R.W. Fox, and Co., Falmouth. Falmouth, 9th of 12th Month, 1856 . . . . . . TRURO GRAMMAR SCHOOL HEAD MASTER - CHARLES DURNFORD NEWMAN, M.A. WADHAM COLLEGE, OXFORD Terms for Boarders, 40 Guineas Per Annum . Boys at this School are prepared for the Public Schools and Universities, for the Naval, Military, and other Professions, and for Commercial pursuits. . The regular course of Instruction includes the Classics, Mathematics, French, and the various branches of a sound English Education. All studies are under the immediate Superintendence of the Head Master, who took honours at Oxford in Classics and Mathematics, and who has had more than twelve years' experience in the management of a school. . Drawing, Music, Dancing, and Drilling on moderate terms. . The climate of Truro is very mild and salubrious, and is well suited to persons of delicate constitutions. The greatest attention is paid by Mr. and Mrs. Newman to the comfort and health of the Boarders, who enjoy, at a remarkably cheap rate, the advantages of residence in a private family, together with those of a good Grammar School. . There are two exhibitions at Exeter College, Oxford, attached to the Truro Grammar School, of the annual value of GBP 30 each, open to all (boarders as well as day boys) who have been at the school for three years. . A quarter's notice is required before the removal of a pupil. The school will RE-OPEN after the Christmas vacation on Monday February 2nd. . Further particulars may be known on application to the Head Master; or to Mrs. Heard and Sons, Booksellers, Truro. . . . . . . LOCAL INTELLIGENCE . CALLINGTON - An amateur concert was given at Golding's Assembly-room, for the benefit of the Reading-rooms, on Tuesday last, which was fashionably and fully attended. The amateurs of the town were assisted by the Liskeard Glee and Madrigal Union, and by some gentlemen of Launceston and Landulph. The pieces performed, both vocal and instrumental, elicited much applause, and several of them were heartily encored and kindly responded to. . ST. JUST INSTITUTION - On Monday last, an admirable lecture "On the Writings of Quarles" was delivered at this institution by Mr. R. BOYNS, jun. . TRURO TOWN COUNCIL - A meeting of the council took place on Tuesday last, when there were present the Mayor, Mr. E. MICHELL, and Messrs. CHAPPEL, ROUSE, JOB, PASCOE, THOMAS, HALL, HEARD, PASSINGHAM, BARLOW, UGLOW, CLYMA, STOKES, GATLEY, S.T. WILLIAMS, SOLOMON, and SPRY. (part cut out as boring - regarding a donated clock) . The council next resolved itself into a watch committee for police matters; when it was proposed that WOOLCOCK, who had been in the force seventeen years, with only one complaint alleged against him during that time, should be made a sergeant, and his pay increased from 14s. to 18s.6d. per week; that police constables PAPPIN and GAY should have their pay increased to 16s.6d. per week each; and that the pay of the superintendent, Mr. NASH, should be increased to 31s.6d. per week; also that the two policemen then to be appointed should receive 14s.6d. per week for the first twelvemonths, and 16s.6d. per week afterwards; and that all the police should allow 6d. a week out of their pay to form a fund applicable in cases of sickness, or of any of the force being disabled. . This proposition was moved by Mr. Stokes, and seconded by Mr. Spry. Mr. Heard moved the following amendment: That in the present embarrassed state of the revenues of the council, it is most improper to charge the town funds with any further increased fixed salaries; but there being no seconder, the amendment fell to the ground. A division was then taken on the original motion, when there voted for it Messrs. Rouse, Job, Pascoe, Thomas, Hall, Passingham, Barlow, Uglow, Clyma, Gatley, Stokes, S.T. Williams, and Spry; against it, Messrs. Chappel and Heard; Mr. Solomon did not vote. . William MARTIN, of St. Cleer, and George BIDDICK, of Probus, were then elected policemen in the place of PRATER, who has been appointed to Falmouth, and VINCENT, who was dismissed. . In the course of the meeting a long conversation took place in reference to the clauses in the police act relating to the superannuation fund; eventually it was thought desirable that the matter should be deferred till a future meeting. . APPOINTMENT - We observe that Mr. Edwyn ANDREW, M.B., son of Mr. B. ANDREW, of St. Austell, is the successful candidate for the post of assistant-surgeon to St. Pancras Infirmary, and has had the honour to be elected without one dissentient vote. We understand that this is a position of considerable responsibility, as well as a wide field for experience, there being little less than four hundred beds. . THE CUSTOMS - Mr. Richard GILL, of Penryn, has been appointed extra clerk to the customs of London, and has passed the usual examination. . DEATH OF A CENTENARIAN - On Monday last the death of Mrs. Elizabeth CURGENVEN took place at her residence in Lemon-street, Truro. She was born on the 1st of May, 1752, and consequently at the time of her death was in her 105th year. She was eight years old at the time of the death of George the Second, and has therefore lived in five reigns of the Sovereigns of England, and through a period of vast changes and events of momentous historical importance in the world's history. Mrs. Curgenven was the widow of a naval officer, Capt. Curgenven, and was sister of the late Rev. J. POMERY, vicar of St. Kew, in this county. We are informed that although she had arrived at this extraordinary age, she retained the unclouded use of her intellect and faculties until the day of her death. . COMPLAINT OF A ST.AUSTELL BUTCHER - We stated that last week, Mr. Richard WILLIAMS, butcher, of St. Austell, was fined at the petty sessions 10s. for persisting, after several warnings, in hanging meat outside his door on market days. Mr. Williams now writes us a letter, admitting that he was fined, but stating that the place in question is within the boundary of his shop front, and that there is a strong feeling expressed by the respectable inhabitants of the town in his behalf. He says,"I am a native of this town, of the age of fifty-three, and have been a butcher about thirty-four or thirty-five years, have kept a shop for that business during nearly the whole of those years, and have exposed goods for sale during that time in a much worse way than on this occasion."] . He states that other shopkeepers are allowed to hang out what they please; that he called three respectable witnesses to testify that in his case it was no encroachment on the footpath or any nuisance, there being a policeman's word on the contrary side; and he encloses in his letter a very small crook which he says is one of those he hangs meat to. He complains that there is an animus against him with certain persons, and that he was consequently fined and published in the West Briton. . We know nothing of the actual merits of Mr. Williams's case; but the presumption is that the magistrates would fully inquire into it, and decide according to the best of their judgment. . FALMOUTH POLICE - On Wednesday, before the Mayor Mr. S. BLIGHT, and Messrs. CARNE and ELLIS, magistrates, Amelia PEARCE was charged with being drunk and fighting with another woman, for which she was sentenced to a month's imprisonment in the borough jail. . Richard SMITH, belonging to the "British Queen," was charged with an assault, but the complainant not appearing, Smith was discharged. . Two sailors, called Thomas PEARCE and Frederick OLIVER, were taken to the lock-up for creating a disturbance in the street, and damaging goods in the window of Mr. GENN, jeweller. They compromised the matter by paying GBP 2.15s.for the damage; Mr. Genn did not press the charge. . THE ST. AUSTELL POLICE - We have received the following in reference to the police of this town: . "Sir, A letter having appeared in your paper of the 28th ult., in which it is stated that the policemen can never be found when they are wanted, except at some petty quarrel or a public-house, this charge is grossly false, as well as the malicious charges made against them respecting their conduct on the 5th of November last. I hope after this, that "Pro Bono Publico" will be sufficiently honest not to withhold his name, unless his object is to do the policemen an injury just at this time when the New Police Act is about to come into operation. I am, sir, your obedient servant, JOHN WESTLAKE, one of the Policemen of St. Austell." . STEALING FROM A PAWNBROKER - On Tuesday last, a woman named Betsey FRANCIS, was committed on a charge of stealing a coat from a pawnbroker's shop at Redruth. She took the coat from the shelf where it had been placed, while the pawnbroker turned his back to write the ticket, and immediately took it to another pawnbroker's, and pawned it, where it was discovered by the police. . AN EXPERT THIEF - On Monday last, a woman named Elizabeth CHAMPION, living at Camborne, was committed to Bodmin by Mr. J.P. MAGOR, county magistrate, on a charge of stealing a silk handkerchief from Mr. COCKING, of Redruth. On the prisoner's lodgings being searched, a large quantity of wearing apparel of every description was found in her possession, including silk dresses, bonnets, ribbons, shawls, stockings, mantles, broadcloth and clogs, with a host of other articles, many of which have been identified by the shopkeepers of Redruth. . CHARGE OF STEALING TIN - At the West Penwith Petty Sessions, on the 3rd instant, before Colonel SCOBELL, Mr. D.P. LeGRICE, and Mr. T.S. BOLITHO, a charge was preferred by Edward HARVEY, of St. Just in Penwith, against John THOMAS, stamps foreman, William WATTERS, John ROWE, William CASLEY, and James TASKUS, miners, for stealing 14 cwt. of tin, his property, on the 22nd of November. Mr. DOWNING of Redruth appeared for the prosecutor, and Mr. MILLETT for the defendants. . As there was no evidence against Taskus, he was discharged. . Edward HARVEY stated that he streamed a river belonging to Mr. WARREN, of Tregeseal, in St. Just; he did so under a written grant from Warren dated April 7th. On the 2nd of last May he received a notice from Warren that he was no longer to stream in that river. He had then about sixty sacks in his working house, and notwithstanding the notice, he went on working till September, Warren not endeavouring to prevent him. . Mr. Bennett owns stamps at Pendeen, and witness took the tin to John Thomas, the foreman of the stamps, to be dressed. The tin, it appeared from further evidence, was afterwards removed. After several witnesses had been called for prosecutor, Mr. Millett said it was a case of disputed ownership of the tin, and he called John BENNETT, the lessee of the stamps under Mr. John BORLASE. He said that in consequence of a notice from Warren that the tin in question had been illegally moved from his estate at Tregeseal, he gave directions that it should not be given up. . On the 16th or 17th of November, his foreman, Thomas, told him that Harvey had been over and taken away the whole of the tin then dressed, 5 or 6 cwt., and he told Thomas they should want assistance to secure the tin for Warren. . On cross-examination by Mr. Downing, the witness said the notice by Warren was given him at Hemmings's Three Tuns Inn; Messrs. S.H. JAMES, R.V. DAVY, J. BOYNE, S. HIGGS, and W. BORLASE were there. Witness informed Harvey that the tin was to be removed to Penzance. He declined to answer some of the questions, but he said persons told him the tin was to be safely lodged at Mr. Davy's. . Mr. Millett declined calling any of the other witnesses in attendance. Mr. Downing, in his speech, threatened to indict certain pursers, &c., for conspiracy. The magistrates committed the four defendants for trial at the next assizes; they were bailed by Mr. W. BALL and J.B. COULSON in GBP 100 each. . FIRE NEAR LAUNCESTON - On Thursday the 4th inst., a fire broke out on Tiphill farm, near Druselton, about three miles from Launceston. It threatened to be very destructive in its consequences, as there were several mows of good corn on the farm and near it. Much damage was, however, done, not to the the corn, but to the house at Tiphill, and the adjoining one belonging to Mr. BANBURY. Both were literally burnt to the ground. . It seems almost miraculous that not one ear of corn was touched; but this, in a great measure, was owing to the wind. By great exertion, the flames were overcome; but not till the abovementioned damage had been done. No injuries of a personal nature have been sustained; and it is hoped that no cattle have met with any injury. The fire caused considerable alarm. It is said to have originated with the flue of Tiphill house catching fire. . MELANCHOLY ACCIDENT - Intelligence has been received that Mr. John HICHENS, assistant-surgeon of H.M. Steamer, "Sphinx," and son of Mr. John HICHENS of Redruth, was drowned in the Bay of Buhtri, in the Bosphorus, on the 6th ult. He went on shore to spend the day at a village in company with the purser. They dined together, but afterwards separated, and the purser returned to the ship. Mr. Hichens was seen on the quay in the evening, waiting to go on board. Nothing more was known of him till six days afterwards, when his body was found drowned, with the money he had in his pocket. The night was very boisterous and it is supposed a gust of wind swept him off the quay when no one was near to assist. . Before going to the Black Sea, he had been in the Baltic, and was present at the assault of Bomarsund, and at most of the naval attacks on Sebastopol, Eupatoria, Kinburn, Kertch, &c. He was twenty-five years of age, and his parents were anticipating the pleasure of seeing him after a long separation, when the afflicting intelligence arrived of his death. . FATAL ACCIDENT - An accident, terminating fatally, occurred on Saturday morning last at Tregolls, the residence of Sir Samuel SPRY, near Truro. Masons were employed there, and scaffolding erected, but it appears not securely. The men had returned from their breakfast, when on mounting the scaffold, a portion of it gave way; through which a mason called George HALSE, a youth named ALLEN, son of Joseph ALLEN, carrier, and a lad named TRENERRY, son of David TRENERRY, a mason, were precipitated to the ground from the height of between thirty and forty feet. Another man called DUNN, a carpenter, who was on the scaffolding at the same time, saved himself by laying hold of a pole. . The mason, George Halse, had his thigh and several ribs broken, besides internal injuries. The two lads also were thought at the time to be seriously injured, but we have since been informed that they are not very much hurt. Halse was at once taken to the Royal Cornwall Infirmary, where he died on Wednesday morning last. It is stated that the mason, Trenerry, before he left the place that morning to go into Truro, had cautioned the others not to go upon the scaffold until it was better secured. An inquest was held on the body of George Halse, before Mr. J. CARLYON, on Wednesday, when a verdict of "accidental death" was returned. . COMMITTAL FOR MURDER AT SEA [condensed] During a S.W. Gale on Sunday night last, the "Mars." from Dundee, Capt. James BURN, master, arrived at Mount's Bay, having been nearly nine weeks out from Cuba. The brig was laden with rum and sugar, and was leaky. She stood off and on in a very critical position, and in imminent danger, a Mousehole boat with branch pilots named PERRACK and HARVEY went off, and succeeded in boarding the brig, and in bringing her safely into the harbour on Monday. . A rumour soon spread that the captain had ill-treated a boy on the homeward voyage; and on Tuesday an information was laid against the captain by some of the crew, and he was taken into custody. . The first witness called was the mate of the vessel, John BLAIR, of Dundee, who stated they sailed from Dundee on the 5th of April last, and put into Lowestoffe about the 20th of May, and there took on board the boy ROBERT BEERCROFT, who was about fourteen years of age, and healthy, although not strong. . The ship arrived at Guatemala on the 14th of August. The boy was of good character, and was very well treated by all hands on the voyage out. He was a little backward in his work at times. They left Cuba the 9th of October on their homeward voyage. The boy had been ill in St. Jago for a short time, but he had taken some medicine from the captain and was well again. . Five days out, he complained of a headache, and could not do his work. He did it as well as he could because the captain called him out to do it, and if he did not get along the captain would give him a wallopping. He beat him five or six times on different days, with a bit of rope's end. The captain gave him a dose of salts and two doses of caster oil during the days he beat him. He had the second dose of castor oil on the 21st October, and the boy then said to the captain, in my presence, that he had eaten nothing for four days. . [About five or six o'clock, the boy brought a lamp up to James ALDRIDGE, the man at the helm, who then lighted it. At that time, the captain called the boy down to wipe up some oil the boy had spilled while trying to light the lamp. The boy was then beaten, and when he came on deck said he could not go down again. The captain called several times for the boy, but did not hear what the mate told him. The captain told the mate to beat the boy, and the mate refused. The captain then called the boy to bring him tea, and the boy called down the companion that he was not able to do so. The captain was about as far from the boy as the mate was, and so should have heard him. . The mate carried down the meat himself and put it on the table, believing the boy was incapacitated. The captain said "let the boy do it." He had been drinking. . The mate carried down the tea. The captain then went to the deck and beat the boy with a rope - a bit of rattling line, about his sides.] . I called out, "do not strike the boy any more; he is not able." The boy said, "I must die." John DAVIDSON, the man at the wheel, helped him to his berth. I saw no more of him until half-past seven the next morning, when I saw him lying on his face, dead. The body was stiff, and one side of his head was all blue in a solid mass; his legs were blue in stripes, and his sides and body blue and red. He had nothing but his shirt on. There was blood in his mouth. The captain was there, and I said "the body is in an awful mess." The captain said "so he is." He then told me to sew him up in some canvas, which I did, and at noon the body was put over the side with a piece of chain attached to it. . James ALDRIDGE, the cook, said the boy was well when they left Cuba early in October. About nine or ten days afterwards, he complained of a sick headache; I could see that he was very ill. During the voyage out, and until his death, he was cruelly used by the master. I have heard his cries in the cabin, when there was no one there but the captain and the boy. . On the day before his death the boy said to me he had eaten nothing for four days. [He confirmed the evidence given by the mate, about the extended beating given the boy just before his death, and confirmed the captain had been drinking, but might not be considered completely drunken. When the boy protested that he could not get the grinding stone from beneath the long-boat, and asked the cook to do so, the captain said "d..n your eyes, you are better able to get about the decks than I am, you had better jump overboard." Heard the captain tell the mate to beat the boy, and heard the mate refuse. When the captain called the boy into the cabin, heard the boy screaming, but did not hear what was said because of the wind blowing hard. The captain kept a piece of tarry rope, about an inch and a half round and two and a half or three feet long, in the cabin for the purpose of beating the boy. The captain would send the boy into the cabin for this piece of tarry rope, for the capta! in to beat him with.] . Four seamen on board were called who gave evidence in corroboration of the preceding. John DAVISON gave the most compelling testimony, citing the boy could not walk, nor go down the companion ladder after being beaten by the captain. The captain was drunk at the time. James DRYDEN said he saw marks on the boy's body, as if by a rope. He found the boy lying half in and half out of the roundhouse; the boy said he had been beaten by the captain, and that he wanted to be laid out on the deck for fresh air. It was raining. He had no coat, and his drawers were hanging over his legs; he could not bend his legs. As it was raining, Dryden decided to put the boy in his berth. The boy had lost all feeling and control of his legs, and could not lie on his right side or back because of wounds. . He said to the boy, "you are dying." The boy replied, "yes, Jim, I'm dying, but the master won't let me lie long." I told him to lie still, and said I would have the captain punished when I got to England. The boy said, "you will - you won't forget to have him punished when you get home." . I left him in his berth, and the next morning saw him dead. That night we secured some casks that had got adrift; the captain was then intoxicated. He was a fine boy, and civil to the master and the ship's company. . John SOMERVILLE and William ANDERSON gave corroborating evidence, after which the depositions were read over and signed, and the charge was altered from one of beating and ill-usage to a charge of murder. On Wednesday the prisoner was brought to Truro, and lodged in the borough gaol, and on Thursday he was conveyed to the county prison at Bodmin, to await his trial. . ADMIRALTY COURT (Before Dr. Lushington) This was a suit promoted by Mr. R. NEWMAN, of St. Mary's, Scilly, against Mr. R.C. VENN, of Port Adelaide, to obtain possession of the brig "Empress" of the burden of 257 tons. . Mr. Newman alleged that he purchased her in the early part of the year 1847 of Mr. GREENWELL, of Sunderland, for the sum of GBP 2,700; that, having duly obtained a British register, he navigated her to the Mediterranean; that in July, 1850, he appointed his son as her master, who in December, 1851, sailed from London with a general cargo of merchandise bound for Algoa Bay, and thence on a trading voyage as to the master should seem most advantageous for her owner's interest; that the brig never again returned to England until she arrived in London on the 5th of July, 1855, when she came in charge of Mr. WOODWARD, as master, and the plaintiff arrested her. . Mr. Venn, in his answer, stated that in February, 1853, having been informed of the arrival of the brig in Port Adelaide, and, being desirous of purchasing a vessel of her description, he obtained an interview with the master, who represented that he was Richard NEWMAN, and that he was sole owner. Mr. Venn agreed or purchase her for GBP 2,000, and on the certificate of registry being produced, which described Richard Newman the master and sole owner as being one and the same person, a bill of sale was drawn up, and, on the money being paid, duly executed. Upon the completion of the purchase the certificate of registry and also the bill of sale were produced, and delivered to the authorities of the custom-house at Port Adelaide for the purpose of her being registered de novo. The authorities, having inspected the same, granted a new certificate of registry. . Shortly after the sale, Richard Newman purchased another vessel at Port Adelaide, and for upwards of 5[?] years traded therewith to various places in that locality. . After Mr. Venn had purchased the "Empress," she made several intermediate voyages, and in February, 1855, sailed for London. The cargo having been discharged and the crew paid, she was arrested. Mr. Newman, sen., on one occasion, saw Mr. Woodward, to whom he admitted, as alleged by Mr. Venn, that he had authorized his son to sell the vessel, but as he had never sent him the money, he meant to have the ship again. That was the first time that any intimation was given that Richard Newman, the sole owner, and Richard Newman, the master, were not one and the same person. . Mr. Venn submitted that Mr. Newman, sen., having omitted to have the name of his son duly endorsed on the ship's certificate as master, was wholly answerable for the consequences of such neglect, and could not now claim possession of the brig; that after her purchase, her various sailings and arrivals were duly advertised, but Mr. Newman, sen., took no steps to assert his pretended claim, which he might have done by communicating with his agents in Australia and elsewhere. . Dr. ADDAMS was heard for Newman; the Queen's Advocate and Dr. DEANE for Mr. Venn. . The court reserved its judgment on the first hearing, which was on the 28th of November, but a decision has since been given favourable to Capt. Newman, as the following report, which appeared in Saturday's London paper, shews: The Empress - Possession - Sentence -. . The question that arose in this case was whether Mr. Richard Newman, of St. Mary's, Scilly, had given his son, Mr. Richard Newman, jun., power to sell the vessel to the party proceeded against, Mr. R.C. Venn, of Adelaide, in Australia, who had given him GBP 2,000 for her. Dr. Lushington said the sale had been brought about by the fraudulent representations of Richard Newman, jun., that he was the owner of the vessel. It was, in fact, a sale effected by forgery and fraud, and such a sale could never divest the original owner of his title. It was no doubt a great misfortune to Mr. Venn to have parted with his money; that was a misfortune to which all persons were liable who became the victim of forgery and fraud. The court must decree possession to Mr. Newman, sen., but it was certainly not a case for costs.

Hi Marge That was probably how it was pronounced by them! When I was at school there were three girls called UREN. One pronounced it U-ren, one pronounced YEWERN and the other pronounced it YORN!!!!! They all lived within the boundaries of Penzance! Cheers Pat On 7/12/2012 7:15 PM, Marg & Neil Andrews wrote: > I don't think so Jan. Mine were copper miners in Chacewater. > The earliest I have in John Uren b abt 1770 m Mary Rule. > Their son John b abt 1792 m Ann Hawke at Kenwyn > Of their 10 children all but Elizabeth Ann poss chr 1817 > migrated to Australia. Elizabeth may have married Joel Scoble > so her descendants wouldn't have been Uren. > For your interest, the only 3 Uren boys came to Australia and > were thenceforth spelt as YOURN !! The girls all married. > I notice that you are in Oz, so it is of course possible that you > descend from John b1832, my Thomas b1834 or Samuel George b 1837. > If any of this sounds at all of interest to you, do get back to me. > > Marg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Ashwin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 7:02 PM > Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 NEWS > >> My URENS are from ST Ives . Cornwall , any connection with that town >> ??Janet >> , (nee UREN) > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marg & Neil Andrews" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 NEWS >> >>> And it is with great sadness for me, that the posts have reached the end >>> of >>> 1856 as I think that my >>> UREN lot will have all left Cornwall by then, and so I am not likely to >>> find >>> anything on them any more. >>> I very much appreciate the efforts of all those who have worked to >>> produce >>> these newspaper items >>> so thank you all. I think I might hang around a little while longer >>> though >>> as I will miss the lovely stories ! >>> Marg Andrews Qld Oz. > > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear Bill, Thank you for the information below. If I find anything to add, I will let you know. Kind regards, Rowena -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Curnow Sent: Monday, 3 December 2012 10:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 05 Dec 1856 BMDs - Dumble Birth & subsequent marriage Rowena, I certainly don't know the complete story of how their lives unfolded. What I can tell you is that they had at least five children: Annie Dumble CURNOW (b.1885) Edwin William CURNOW (b.1887) Frederick J. CURNOW (1890-92) Victoria May CURNOW (b.1893) Richard George CURNOW (b.1895) Sons Edwin and Richard married, but I have no idea as to what became of Annie and Victoria. Frederick John CURNOW (i.e. the father) worked as a commercial traveler (traveling salesman) in 1886. He died in 1938 and was buried at the City of Westminster Cemetery in West London. I don't know when Catherine Ann died, but it would be logical to check any records that might be available for the same cemetery. Bill Curnow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton,05 Dec 1856 BMDs - Dumble Birth & subsequent marriage > Hi Bill, > > Thank you for that info. I found two possible Catherine Dumble > marriages, but hadn't gone any further. Could you give me any other > details on their movements or her death? Would you like any details on her parents? > > Kind regards, > > Rowena > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Curnow > Sent: Monday, 3 December 2012 12:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 05 Dec 1856 BMDs - Dumble Birth & > subsequent marriage > > Rowena, > > Catherine Ann DUMBLE is of definite interest to me because she married > Frederick John CURNOW (1864-1938, s/o Henry CURNOW & Susan CHINN) on > 13 Dec > 1884 at Marylebone, London. She was already in London at the 1881 > Census, when she was one of six dressmaker's assistants living in the > household of Isabella Bevern (#______, 45, unm., dressmaker employing > about 10 hands, born Farrington, Lancashire) at 33 Sackville Street, London. > > > Bill Curnow > Port Charlotte, FL, USA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rowena Gough" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:15 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 BMDS - Dumble > Birth > > >> Dear List >> >>>From the Births: >> At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter. >> >> This is Catherine Ann DUMBLE, who was born on 14 Oct 1856, St. Ives, >> and baptised on 13 June 1860, St. Ives. Her parents were Edwin >> William DUMBLE >> (c.1831-1869) and Catherine SHUGG (1827-1906), who married in 1850 in St. >> Ives. >> >> In the 1871 Census she is living with Judith Shugg, noted as a niece, >> age 15, occupation dressmaker, and residing at Tregenna Place, St. Ives. >> >> I havn't found her in the 1881 Census, and presumed that she may have >> married. >> >> Regards, >> Rowena >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julia Mosman >> Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2012 6:02 PM >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 BMDS >> >> >> >> West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, transcribed by Bern Currie 5th >> December >> 1856 . >> BIRTHS >> . >> At Truro, on the 22nd ult., the wife of James HENDERSON, Esq., of a >> daughter. >> . >> At Falmouth, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James RUSDEN, tailor, >> of a son; and on Monday last, the wife of Mr. GRIFFITHS, shoemaker, >> of a daughter. >> . >> At St. Keverne, on the 26th ult., the wife of George APPLETON, Esq., >> surgeon, of a daughter. >> . >> At Helston, the wife of Mr. Benedict BISHOP, tailor, of a son. >> . >> At Tregiddle, in the parish of Cury, the wife of Mr. Samuel ROWE, of >> a daughter. >> . >> At Marazion, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. F. EDMONDS, grocer; and >> on Tuesday, the wife of Mr. William LANYON, of a son. >> . >> At Penzance, the wife of Capt. Richard PHILLIPS, jun., of a daughter. >> . >> At Ludgvan, the wife of Mr. Joseph BEARE, of a son. >> . >> At St. Just, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. HARVEY, tin-dresser, of >> a daughter. >> . >> At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter; and the >> wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, of a son. >> . >> At New Building, Nancledrea, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Edward >> TREVENING, of a daughter. >> . >> At Nanspuska, in the parish of Phillack, on the 27th ult., the wife >> of Mr. >> John ROSEWARNE, of a daughter, since dead. >> . >> At Camborne, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. John PASCOE, of a >> daughter; and the wife of Mr. Wm. BRYANT, of a son. >> . >> At St. Austell, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. John NORTHCOTE, >> draper, of > >> a >> still-born daughter. >> . >> At Roche, the wife of Mr. Isaac GRIGG, of a daughter. >> . >> At St. Blazey, on the 22nd ult., the wife of Mr. Robert PARKYN, of a >> still-born son. >> . >> At Lostwithiel, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, >> tailor, of a son; and on the 27th, the wife of Mr. Charles ROWE, >> surgeon, of a daughter. >> . >> At Tremabe, in the parish of Liskeard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. >> SNELL, of a daughter. >> . >> At Exeter, on the 21st ult., the wife of Mr. Robert G. VISICK, of a son. >> . >> At 30 Southernhay, Exeter, on Friday last, the wife of Broughton >> KINGDON, Esq., of a daughter. >> . >> At Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, on the 26th ult., the wife of the Rev. >> Stanford G. SCOBEL, of Market-Rasen[?], Lincolnshire, of a daughter. >> . >> At Liverpool, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James LULY, formerly >> of Mevagissey, of a daughter. >> . >> At New York, on the 18th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, >> formerly of Penzance, of a daughter. >> . >> MARRIAGES >> . >> At the Wesleyan Chapel, Falmouth, on the 16th ult., Mr. Charles >> THOMAS, of Flushing, to Miss Angeline WESTON, of Falmouth. >> . >> At the Registrar's Office, Falmouth, on Saturday last, Mr. R, WATTS, >> to Mrs. >> Grace POWELL, both of Falmouth. >> . >> At the Baptist Chapel, Helston, on Tuesday last, Richard Dubkof >> THOMAS, of Pleming, in the parish of Gulval, to Miss Mary Davies >> THOMAS, of Clies in the parish of Mawgan west. >> . >> In the Methodist Chapel, Helston, on Wednesday last, Mr. James >> William ROBERTS, of Herland Cross, in the parish of Breage, to Miss >> Margaret PARSONS, of Colsbrick, in the same parish. >> . >> At Wesley Rock Chapel, Penzance, on Saturday last, Mr. John ELLIS TO >> Miss Jenifer BLIGHT, both of St. Ives. >> . >> At Madron, on Tuesday last, Mr. Charles CLIFT, cashier of the Messrs. >> FOX's, >> Falmouth, to Selina, third daughter of the late Mr. Thomas MILLS, of >> Rosevean-road, Penzance; and Mr. Thomas MADDERN, of Madron, to >> Elizabeth, daughter of Mr. Charles BOASE, of the same parish. >> . >> At Ludgvan, on Saturday last, Mr. James JENNINGS to Miss Mary >> VINCENT, both of Ludgvan. >> . >> At St. Erth, on the 27th ult., Mr. John STEPHENS, to Nanny, only >> daughter of Mr. Samuel TREVASKIS. >> . >> At Illogan, on the 4th instant, Mr. Christopher BODINAAR, jun., to >> Miss Mary PAULL. >> . >> At the Wesleyan Chapel, Redruth, Mr. Nicholas JENNINGS, of >> Glynn-wood, near Swansea, to Emma, only daughter of Mr. Walter >> TREWEEK, on Penzance, in the parish of Gwennap. >> . >> At St. Blazey, on the 24th ult., Mr. Thomas BROWN, of Port Isaac, >> Endellion, to Elizabeth Jane, eldest daughter of Mrs. Catherine >> RESUGGAN, of the former parish. >> . >> At the Wesleyan Chapel, Camelford, on Sunday last, Mr. Henry DAVIES, >> to Mrs. >> Jane Granger PATTEN, both of the parish of St. Teath. >> . >> At Castle Street Chapel, Launceston, on the 27th ult., Mr. >> ROUNSEVALL, ON Somerton, in Somersetshire, Bible Christian Minister, >> to Miss Grace STROUT, of Trewen, in the parish of Altarnun. >> . >> At Southpetherwin, on Sunday last, Mr. James LANE, to [sic] of >> Congdon, to Miss Elizabeth LANE, of Trethewy, both in the same >> parish. >> . >> At Lawhitton, on the 20th ult., Mr. HOWES, to Mary, second daughter >> of Mr. >> George LOBB. >> . >> At St. Mary's, Hennock, South Devon, on the 25th ult., Carthew >> Reynolds, eldest son of the Rev. William WOOLLCOMBE, vicar of that >> parish, to Charlotte, second daughter of the late Rev. Thomas DURHAM. >> . >> At St. George's, Hanover Square, London, on the 25th ult., Henry John >> BROWN, Esq., late of the Rifle Brigade, to Ellen Maria, only daughter >> of the late Horatio Lewis ORTON, Esq., of Reading, Berks. >> . >> At St. Peter's, Easton Square, London, on the 26th ult., Colonel >> Frederick PAGET, eldest son of the late H. a.[sic] PAGET, to Maria, >> Georgina, eldest daughter of Charles Berkley Pasco GRENFELL, Esq., of >> 38 Belgrave Square. >> . >> DEATHS >> . >> At Park House, Truro, on Tuesday last, after a short illness, John >> Kempe DEVONSHIRE, Esq., of that place and London, aged 52 years. >> . >> At Mount Pleasant, near Truro, on the 22nd ult., Miss Elizabeth >> WILLS, aged >> 57 years. >> . >> At Short-lane's-end, near Truro, on Friday last, Edwin Carne, infant >> son of Mr. John ENDEAN. >> . >> At Falmouth, on Monday last, Mary Cooper, infant daughter of Mr. S. >> NICHOLS, >> master of the "Astrea," of Liverpool.[the ship Astrea ran a regular >> route from Liverpool to Cornwall] . >> At Helston, on Friday last, Mr. Peter HENDY, aged 43 years. >> . >> At Marazion, on Wednesday last, Mr. Samuel S. LAITY, aged 83 years, >> for fifty of which he was a member of the corporation of that place. >> . >> At Penzance, on Sunday last, the infant daughter of Mr. GEOFFROL, >> master of the Penzance School of Art. >> . >> At Hea Moor, near Penzance, on the 26th ult., Elizabeth, wife of Mr. >> James >> THOMAS, aged 67 years. >> . >> At Newlyn west, on the 26th ult., Ann, wife of Mr. John LOBB, aged 58 >> years. >> . >> At Mousehole, on Sunday last, Jane, daughter of Mr. William ANGWIN, >> aged >> 10 >> years. >> . >> At Crowlas, in the parish of Ludgvan, on the 27th ult., Mary Jane, >> youngest daughter of Mr. James TREVASKIS, aged 7 years. >> . >> At Chytodden House, in the parish of Towednack, on the 19th ult., Mrs. >> Elizabeth QUICK, aged 75 years. >> . >> At Copperhouse, on Sunday last, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Anthony JEFFERY. >> . >> At Hayle, in the parish of Phillack, on Monday last, Mr. James >> KNEEBONE, aged 79 years. >> . >> At Connor Downs, in the parish of Gwithian, on Sunday last, Mr. Jonas >> JOHNSON, aged 62 years; and Mr. Robert BRAY, aged 74 years. >> . >> At Camborne, on Friday last, Elizabeth Jane, daughter of Mr. PARKIN, >> of the Basset Arms; and Hannibal, son of Mr. Thomas UREN, aged 2 >> years; on Monday last, Mr. Thomas MILL, aged 56 years; and Nicholas, >> son of Mr. Nicholas TEMBY, now in Australia, aged 2 years. >> . >> At Redruth, on the 25th ult., Mr. Alexander RUNNALLS, aged 58 years, >> for many of which he was a member of the Baptist Church, and >> deservedly esteemed by all who knew him. >> . >> At Redruth, on Wednesday last, Emily, only daughter of Mr. James ANDREW. >> . >> At Penstraze, in the parish of Kea, on Monday last, suddenly, Jane, >> wife of Mr. James NORTHY, aged 62 years. >> . >> At Newquay, on Sunday last, the infant son of Capt. BENNETT, of the >> "Mary and Helena." >> . >> At Bodmin, on Tuesday last, Mr. Samuel HOAR. >> . >> At Pinchla Park, in the parish of Cardinham, on the 20th ult., Mr. >> John BATE, yeoman, much respected by all who knew him, and deeply >> regretted, aged >> 38 years. >> . >> At St. Austell, on Sunday last, deeply lamented by all who knew her, >> Jane, wife of Mr. SKEWES, of the General Wolfe Inn, aged 51 years. >> . >> At St. Mewan Inn, on the 27th ult., suddenly, Mr. Isaac MALLETT. >> . >> At Couche's Mills, Bosconnoe, suddenly, Mr. W. POND, aged 59 years. >> . >> At Liskeard, on the 25th ult., after a lingering illness, Mr. Peter >> SCANTLEBURY, jun. >> . >> At Callington, on the 19th ult., Mrs. ROWEL, aged 60 years; and on >> the 20th, Mrs. Elizabeth SHEER, aged 73 years. >> . >> At Bideford, on the 19th ult., Mr. Thomas HONEY, aged 21 years. >> . >> At Plymouth, on the 26th ult., Mrs. Ann JOPE, widow of Mr. James >> JOPE, formerly of Callington, aged 90 years; and Thomas, son of Mr. J. >> LILLICRAP, >> aged 3 years. >> . >> At Sticklepath, on the 21dt ult., Mr. James COOK. >> . >> At 53 Gracechurch-street, London, on the 22nd ult., of consumption, >> James, son of Mr. Josiah BAWDEN, aged 17 years. >> . >> At Fishguard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. SEYMOUR, painter and >> guilder, late of Haverfordwest, and daughter of the late Mr. R. >> RICHARDS, draper, of Penryn, in this county, aged 54 years. >> . >> At South Berwick, Maine, United States, on the 1st ult., much >> lamented, Joseph Bowers GRAY, A.M., M.D., principal of Berwick >> College, and formerly of Chelmsford, Essex, aged 38 years. >> . >> At Meerut, Bengal, on the 13th of September, Charlotte, wife of >> Colonel SHULDHAM, of the 15th N.I., daughter of the late James >> KEMPTHORNE, Esq., of Windsor Cottage, Bodmin, and relict of the late >> Major WATTS, of the 26th Regiment, Madrass N.I. >> . >> On his voyage home from Calcutta, Mr. Michael MITCHELL, OF Penzance, >> carpenter on board the ship "Emily," of London, aged 42 years. >> . >> On his voyage from Australia, on board the "James Baines," of >> Liverpool, Mr. >> Jonathon KIDD, of Penzance, aged 24 years. >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information > >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription > information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bill, Thank you for that info. I found two possible Catherine Dumble marriages, but hadn't gone any further. Could you give me any other details on their movements or her death? Would you like any details on her parents? Kind regards, Rowena -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Curnow Sent: Monday, 3 December 2012 12:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 05 Dec 1856 BMDs - Dumble Birth & subsequent marriage Rowena, Catherine Ann DUMBLE is of definite interest to me because she married Frederick John CURNOW (1864-1938, s/o Henry CURNOW & Susan CHINN) on 13 Dec 1884 at Marylebone, London. She was already in London at the 1881 Census, when she was one of six dressmaker's assistants living in the household of Isabella Bevern (#______, 45, unm., dressmaker employing about 10 hands, born Farrington, Lancashire) at 33 Sackville Street, London. Bill Curnow Port Charlotte, FL, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:15 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 BMDS - Dumble Birth > Dear List > >>From the Births: > At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter. > > This is Catherine Ann DUMBLE, who was born on 14 Oct 1856, St. Ives, and > baptised on 13 June 1860, St. Ives. Her parents were Edwin William DUMBLE > (c.1831-1869) and Catherine SHUGG (1827-1906), who married in 1850 in St. > Ives. > > In the 1871 Census she is living with Judith Shugg, noted as a niece, age > 15, occupation dressmaker, and residing at Tregenna Place, St. Ives. > > I havn't found her in the 1881 Census, and presumed that she may have > married. > > Regards, > Rowena > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julia Mosman > Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2012 6:02 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 BMDS > > > > West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, transcribed by Bern Currie 5th > December > 1856 . > BIRTHS > . > At Truro, on the 22nd ult., the wife of James HENDERSON, Esq., of a > daughter. > . > At Falmouth, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James RUSDEN, tailor, of a > son; and on Monday last, the wife of Mr. GRIFFITHS, shoemaker, of a > daughter. > . > At St. Keverne, on the 26th ult., the wife of George APPLETON, Esq., > surgeon, of a daughter. > . > At Helston, the wife of Mr. Benedict BISHOP, tailor, of a son. > . > At Tregiddle, in the parish of Cury, the wife of Mr. Samuel ROWE, of a > daughter. > . > At Marazion, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. F. EDMONDS, grocer; and on > Tuesday, the wife of Mr. William LANYON, of a son. > . > At Penzance, the wife of Capt. Richard PHILLIPS, jun., of a daughter. > . > At Ludgvan, the wife of Mr. Joseph BEARE, of a son. > . > At St. Just, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. HARVEY, tin-dresser, of a > daughter. > . > At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter; and the wife of > Mr. John WILLIAMS, of a son. > . > At New Building, Nancledrea, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Edward > TREVENING, of a daughter. > . > At Nanspuska, in the parish of Phillack, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. > John ROSEWARNE, of a daughter, since dead. > . > At Camborne, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. John PASCOE, of a daughter; > and the wife of Mr. Wm. BRYANT, of a son. > . > At St. Austell, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. John NORTHCOTE, draper, of > a > still-born daughter. > . > At Roche, the wife of Mr. Isaac GRIGG, of a daughter. > . > At St. Blazey, on the 22nd ult., the wife of Mr. Robert PARKYN, of a > still-born son. > . > At Lostwithiel, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, tailor, > of > a son; and on the 27th, the wife of Mr. Charles ROWE, surgeon, of a > daughter. > . > At Tremabe, in the parish of Liskeard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. > SNELL, of a daughter. > . > At Exeter, on the 21st ult., the wife of Mr. Robert G. VISICK, of a son. > . > At 30 Southernhay, Exeter, on Friday last, the wife of Broughton KINGDON, > Esq., of a daughter. > . > At Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, on the 26th ult., the wife of the Rev. > Stanford G. SCOBEL, of Market-Rasen[?], Lincolnshire, of a daughter. > . > At Liverpool, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James LULY, formerly of > Mevagissey, of a daughter. > . > At New York, on the 18th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, formerly of > Penzance, of a daughter. > . > MARRIAGES > . > At the Wesleyan Chapel, Falmouth, on the 16th ult., Mr. Charles THOMAS, of > Flushing, to Miss Angeline WESTON, of Falmouth. > . > At the Registrar's Office, Falmouth, on Saturday last, Mr. R, WATTS, to > Mrs. > Grace POWELL, both of Falmouth. > . > At the Baptist Chapel, Helston, on Tuesday last, Richard Dubkof THOMAS, of > Pleming, in the parish of Gulval, to Miss Mary Davies THOMAS, of Clies in > the parish of Mawgan west. > . > In the Methodist Chapel, Helston, on Wednesday last, Mr. James William > ROBERTS, of Herland Cross, in the parish of Breage, to Miss Margaret > PARSONS, of Colsbrick, in the same parish. > . > At Wesley Rock Chapel, Penzance, on Saturday last, Mr. John ELLIS TO Miss > Jenifer BLIGHT, both of St. Ives. > . > At Madron, on Tuesday last, Mr. Charles CLIFT, cashier of the Messrs. > FOX's, > Falmouth, to Selina, third daughter of the late Mr. Thomas MILLS, of > Rosevean-road, Penzance; and Mr. Thomas MADDERN, of Madron, to Elizabeth, > daughter of Mr. Charles BOASE, of the same parish. > . > At Ludgvan, on Saturday last, Mr. James JENNINGS to Miss Mary VINCENT, > both > of Ludgvan. > . > At St. Erth, on the 27th ult., Mr. John STEPHENS, to Nanny, only daughter > of > Mr. Samuel TREVASKIS. > . > At Illogan, on the 4th instant, Mr. Christopher BODINAAR, jun., to Miss > Mary > PAULL. > . > At the Wesleyan Chapel, Redruth, Mr. Nicholas JENNINGS, of Glynn-wood, > near > Swansea, to Emma, only daughter of Mr. Walter TREWEEK, on Penzance, in the > parish of Gwennap. > . > At St. Blazey, on the 24th ult., Mr. Thomas BROWN, of Port Isaac, > Endellion, > to Elizabeth Jane, eldest daughter of Mrs. Catherine RESUGGAN, of the > former > parish. > . > At the Wesleyan Chapel, Camelford, on Sunday last, Mr. Henry DAVIES, to > Mrs. > Jane Granger PATTEN, both of the parish of St. Teath. > . > At Castle Street Chapel, Launceston, on the 27th ult., Mr. ROUNSEVALL, ON > Somerton, in Somersetshire, Bible Christian Minister, to Miss Grace > STROUT, > of Trewen, in the parish of Altarnun. > . > At Southpetherwin, on Sunday last, Mr. James LANE, to [sic] of Congdon, to > Miss Elizabeth LANE, of Trethewy, both in the same parish. > . > At Lawhitton, on the 20th ult., Mr. HOWES, to Mary, second daughter of Mr. > George LOBB. > . > At St. Mary's, Hennock, South Devon, on the 25th ult., Carthew Reynolds, > eldest son of the Rev. William WOOLLCOMBE, vicar of that parish, to > Charlotte, second daughter of the late Rev. Thomas DURHAM. > . > At St. George's, Hanover Square, London, on the 25th ult., Henry John > BROWN, > Esq., late of the Rifle Brigade, to Ellen Maria, only daughter of the late > Horatio Lewis ORTON, Esq., of Reading, Berks. > . > At St. Peter's, Easton Square, London, on the 26th ult., Colonel Frederick > PAGET, eldest son of the late H. a.[sic] PAGET, to Maria, Georgina, eldest > daughter of Charles Berkley Pasco GRENFELL, Esq., of 38 Belgrave Square. > . > DEATHS > . > At Park House, Truro, on Tuesday last, after a short illness, John Kempe > DEVONSHIRE, Esq., of that place and London, aged 52 years. > . > At Mount Pleasant, near Truro, on the 22nd ult., Miss Elizabeth WILLS, > aged > 57 years. > . > At Short-lane's-end, near Truro, on Friday last, Edwin Carne, infant son > of > Mr. John ENDEAN. > . > At Falmouth, on Monday last, Mary Cooper, infant daughter of Mr. S. > NICHOLS, > master of the "Astrea," of Liverpool.[the ship Astrea ran a regular route > from Liverpool to Cornwall] . > At Helston, on Friday last, Mr. Peter HENDY, aged 43 years. > . > At Marazion, on Wednesday last, Mr. Samuel S. LAITY, aged 83 years, for > fifty of which he was a member of the corporation of that place. > . > At Penzance, on Sunday last, the infant daughter of Mr. GEOFFROL, master > of > the Penzance School of Art. > . > At Hea Moor, near Penzance, on the 26th ult., Elizabeth, wife of Mr. James > THOMAS, aged 67 years. > . > At Newlyn west, on the 26th ult., Ann, wife of Mr. John LOBB, aged 58 > years. > . > At Mousehole, on Sunday last, Jane, daughter of Mr. William ANGWIN, aged > 10 > years. > . > At Crowlas, in the parish of Ludgvan, on the 27th ult., Mary Jane, > youngest > daughter of Mr. James TREVASKIS, aged 7 years. > . > At Chytodden House, in the parish of Towednack, on the 19th ult., Mrs. > Elizabeth QUICK, aged 75 years. > . > At Copperhouse, on Sunday last, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Anthony JEFFERY. > . > At Hayle, in the parish of Phillack, on Monday last, Mr. James KNEEBONE, > aged 79 years. > . > At Connor Downs, in the parish of Gwithian, on Sunday last, Mr. Jonas > JOHNSON, aged 62 years; and Mr. Robert BRAY, aged 74 years. > . > At Camborne, on Friday last, Elizabeth Jane, daughter of Mr. PARKIN, of > the > Basset Arms; and Hannibal, son of Mr. Thomas UREN, aged 2 years; on Monday > last, Mr. Thomas MILL, aged 56 years; and Nicholas, son of Mr. Nicholas > TEMBY, now in Australia, aged 2 years. > . > At Redruth, on the 25th ult., Mr. Alexander RUNNALLS, aged 58 years, for > many of which he was a member of the Baptist Church, and deservedly > esteemed > by all who knew him. > . > At Redruth, on Wednesday last, Emily, only daughter of Mr. James ANDREW. > . > At Penstraze, in the parish of Kea, on Monday last, suddenly, Jane, wife > of > Mr. James NORTHY, aged 62 years. > . > At Newquay, on Sunday last, the infant son of Capt. BENNETT, of the "Mary > and Helena." > . > At Bodmin, on Tuesday last, Mr. Samuel HOAR. > . > At Pinchla Park, in the parish of Cardinham, on the 20th ult., Mr. John > BATE, yeoman, much respected by all who knew him, and deeply regretted, > aged > 38 years. > . > At St. Austell, on Sunday last, deeply lamented by all who knew her, Jane, > wife of Mr. SKEWES, of the General Wolfe Inn, aged 51 years. > . > At St. Mewan Inn, on the 27th ult., suddenly, Mr. Isaac MALLETT. > . > At Couche's Mills, Bosconnoe, suddenly, Mr. W. POND, aged 59 years. > . > At Liskeard, on the 25th ult., after a lingering illness, Mr. Peter > SCANTLEBURY, jun. > . > At Callington, on the 19th ult., Mrs. ROWEL, aged 60 years; and on the > 20th, > Mrs. Elizabeth SHEER, aged 73 years. > . > At Bideford, on the 19th ult., Mr. Thomas HONEY, aged 21 years. > . > At Plymouth, on the 26th ult., Mrs. Ann JOPE, widow of Mr. James JOPE, > formerly of Callington, aged 90 years; and Thomas, son of Mr. J. > LILLICRAP, > aged 3 years. > . > At Sticklepath, on the 21dt ult., Mr. James COOK. > . > At 53 Gracechurch-street, London, on the 22nd ult., of consumption, James, > son of Mr. Josiah BAWDEN, aged 17 years. > . > At Fishguard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. SEYMOUR, painter and > guilder, late of Haverfordwest, and daughter of the late Mr. R. RICHARDS, > draper, of Penryn, in this county, aged 54 years. > . > At South Berwick, Maine, United States, on the 1st ult., much lamented, > Joseph Bowers GRAY, A.M., M.D., principal of Berwick College, and formerly > of Chelmsford, Essex, aged 38 years. > . > At Meerut, Bengal, on the 13th of September, Charlotte, wife of Colonel > SHULDHAM, of the 15th N.I., daughter of the late James KEMPTHORNE, Esq., > of > Windsor Cottage, Bodmin, and relict of the late Major WATTS, of the 26th > Regiment, Madrass N.I. > . > On his voyage home from Calcutta, Mr. Michael MITCHELL, OF Penzance, > carpenter on board the ship "Emily," of London, aged 42 years. > . > On his voyage from Australia, on board the "James Baines," of Liverpool, > Mr. > Jonathon KIDD, of Penzance, aged 24 years. > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rowena, I certainly don't know the complete story of how their lives unfolded. What I can tell you is that they had at least five children: Annie Dumble CURNOW (b.1885) Edwin William CURNOW (b.1887) Frederick J. CURNOW (1890-92) Victoria May CURNOW (b.1893) Richard George CURNOW (b.1895) Sons Edwin and Richard married, but I have no idea as to what became of Annie and Victoria. Frederick John CURNOW (i.e. the father) worked as a commercial traveler (traveling salesman) in 1886. He died in 1938 and was buried at the City of Westminster Cemetery in West London. I don't know when Catherine Ann died, but it would be logical to check any records that might be available for the same cemetery. Bill Curnow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton,05 Dec 1856 BMDs - Dumble Birth & subsequent marriage > Hi Bill, > > Thank you for that info. I found two possible Catherine Dumble marriages, > but hadn't gone any further. Could you give me any other details on their > movements or her death? Would you like any details on her parents? > > Kind regards, > > Rowena > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Curnow > Sent: Monday, 3 December 2012 12:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 05 Dec 1856 BMDs - Dumble Birth & > subsequent marriage > > Rowena, > > Catherine Ann DUMBLE is of definite interest to me because she married > Frederick John CURNOW (1864-1938, s/o Henry CURNOW & Susan CHINN) on 13 > Dec > 1884 at Marylebone, London. She was already in London at the 1881 Census, > when she was one of six dressmaker's assistants living in the household of > Isabella Bevern (#______, 45, unm., dressmaker employing about 10 hands, > born Farrington, Lancashire) at 33 Sackville Street, London. > > > Bill Curnow > Port Charlotte, FL, USA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rowena Gough" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:15 AM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 BMDS - Dumble Birth > > >> Dear List >> >>>From the Births: >> At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter. >> >> This is Catherine Ann DUMBLE, who was born on 14 Oct 1856, St. Ives, and >> baptised on 13 June 1860, St. Ives. Her parents were Edwin William DUMBLE >> (c.1831-1869) and Catherine SHUGG (1827-1906), who married in 1850 in St. >> Ives. >> >> In the 1871 Census she is living with Judith Shugg, noted as a niece, age >> 15, occupation dressmaker, and residing at Tregenna Place, St. Ives. >> >> I havn't found her in the 1881 Census, and presumed that she may have >> married. >> >> Regards, >> Rowena >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julia Mosman >> Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2012 6:02 PM >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 BMDS >> >> >> >> West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, transcribed by Bern Currie 5th >> December >> 1856 . >> BIRTHS >> . >> At Truro, on the 22nd ult., the wife of James HENDERSON, Esq., of a >> daughter. >> . >> At Falmouth, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James RUSDEN, tailor, of a >> son; and on Monday last, the wife of Mr. GRIFFITHS, shoemaker, of a >> daughter. >> . >> At St. Keverne, on the 26th ult., the wife of George APPLETON, Esq., >> surgeon, of a daughter. >> . >> At Helston, the wife of Mr. Benedict BISHOP, tailor, of a son. >> . >> At Tregiddle, in the parish of Cury, the wife of Mr. Samuel ROWE, of a >> daughter. >> . >> At Marazion, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. F. EDMONDS, grocer; and on >> Tuesday, the wife of Mr. William LANYON, of a son. >> . >> At Penzance, the wife of Capt. Richard PHILLIPS, jun., of a daughter. >> . >> At Ludgvan, the wife of Mr. Joseph BEARE, of a son. >> . >> At St. Just, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. HARVEY, tin-dresser, of a >> daughter. >> . >> At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter; and the wife of >> Mr. John WILLIAMS, of a son. >> . >> At New Building, Nancledrea, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Edward >> TREVENING, of a daughter. >> . >> At Nanspuska, in the parish of Phillack, on the 27th ult., the wife of >> Mr. >> John ROSEWARNE, of a daughter, since dead. >> . >> At Camborne, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. John PASCOE, of a >> daughter; >> and the wife of Mr. Wm. BRYANT, of a son. >> . >> At St. Austell, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. John NORTHCOTE, draper, >> of > >> a >> still-born daughter. >> . >> At Roche, the wife of Mr. Isaac GRIGG, of a daughter. >> . >> At St. Blazey, on the 22nd ult., the wife of Mr. Robert PARKYN, of a >> still-born son. >> . >> At Lostwithiel, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, tailor, >> of >> a son; and on the 27th, the wife of Mr. Charles ROWE, surgeon, of a >> daughter. >> . >> At Tremabe, in the parish of Liskeard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. >> SNELL, of a daughter. >> . >> At Exeter, on the 21st ult., the wife of Mr. Robert G. VISICK, of a son. >> . >> At 30 Southernhay, Exeter, on Friday last, the wife of Broughton KINGDON, >> Esq., of a daughter. >> . >> At Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, on the 26th ult., the wife of the Rev. >> Stanford G. SCOBEL, of Market-Rasen[?], Lincolnshire, of a daughter. >> . >> At Liverpool, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James LULY, formerly of >> Mevagissey, of a daughter. >> . >> At New York, on the 18th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, formerly of >> Penzance, of a daughter. >> . >> MARRIAGES >> . >> At the Wesleyan Chapel, Falmouth, on the 16th ult., Mr. Charles THOMAS, >> of >> Flushing, to Miss Angeline WESTON, of Falmouth. >> . >> At the Registrar's Office, Falmouth, on Saturday last, Mr. R, WATTS, to >> Mrs. >> Grace POWELL, both of Falmouth. >> . >> At the Baptist Chapel, Helston, on Tuesday last, Richard Dubkof THOMAS, >> of >> Pleming, in the parish of Gulval, to Miss Mary Davies THOMAS, of Clies in >> the parish of Mawgan west. >> . >> In the Methodist Chapel, Helston, on Wednesday last, Mr. James William >> ROBERTS, of Herland Cross, in the parish of Breage, to Miss Margaret >> PARSONS, of Colsbrick, in the same parish. >> . >> At Wesley Rock Chapel, Penzance, on Saturday last, Mr. John ELLIS TO Miss >> Jenifer BLIGHT, both of St. Ives. >> . >> At Madron, on Tuesday last, Mr. Charles CLIFT, cashier of the Messrs. >> FOX's, >> Falmouth, to Selina, third daughter of the late Mr. Thomas MILLS, of >> Rosevean-road, Penzance; and Mr. Thomas MADDERN, of Madron, to Elizabeth, >> daughter of Mr. Charles BOASE, of the same parish. >> . >> At Ludgvan, on Saturday last, Mr. James JENNINGS to Miss Mary VINCENT, >> both >> of Ludgvan. >> . >> At St. Erth, on the 27th ult., Mr. John STEPHENS, to Nanny, only daughter >> of >> Mr. Samuel TREVASKIS. >> . >> At Illogan, on the 4th instant, Mr. Christopher BODINAAR, jun., to Miss >> Mary >> PAULL. >> . >> At the Wesleyan Chapel, Redruth, Mr. Nicholas JENNINGS, of Glynn-wood, >> near >> Swansea, to Emma, only daughter of Mr. Walter TREWEEK, on Penzance, in >> the >> parish of Gwennap. >> . >> At St. Blazey, on the 24th ult., Mr. Thomas BROWN, of Port Isaac, >> Endellion, >> to Elizabeth Jane, eldest daughter of Mrs. Catherine RESUGGAN, of the >> former >> parish. >> . >> At the Wesleyan Chapel, Camelford, on Sunday last, Mr. Henry DAVIES, to >> Mrs. >> Jane Granger PATTEN, both of the parish of St. Teath. >> . >> At Castle Street Chapel, Launceston, on the 27th ult., Mr. ROUNSEVALL, ON >> Somerton, in Somersetshire, Bible Christian Minister, to Miss Grace >> STROUT, >> of Trewen, in the parish of Altarnun. >> . >> At Southpetherwin, on Sunday last, Mr. James LANE, to [sic] of Congdon, >> to >> Miss Elizabeth LANE, of Trethewy, both in the same parish. >> . >> At Lawhitton, on the 20th ult., Mr. HOWES, to Mary, second daughter of >> Mr. >> George LOBB. >> . >> At St. Mary's, Hennock, South Devon, on the 25th ult., Carthew Reynolds, >> eldest son of the Rev. William WOOLLCOMBE, vicar of that parish, to >> Charlotte, second daughter of the late Rev. Thomas DURHAM. >> . >> At St. George's, Hanover Square, London, on the 25th ult., Henry John >> BROWN, >> Esq., late of the Rifle Brigade, to Ellen Maria, only daughter of the >> late >> Horatio Lewis ORTON, Esq., of Reading, Berks. >> . >> At St. Peter's, Easton Square, London, on the 26th ult., Colonel >> Frederick >> PAGET, eldest son of the late H. a.[sic] PAGET, to Maria, Georgina, >> eldest >> daughter of Charles Berkley Pasco GRENFELL, Esq., of 38 Belgrave Square. >> . >> DEATHS >> . >> At Park House, Truro, on Tuesday last, after a short illness, John Kempe >> DEVONSHIRE, Esq., of that place and London, aged 52 years. >> . >> At Mount Pleasant, near Truro, on the 22nd ult., Miss Elizabeth WILLS, >> aged >> 57 years. >> . >> At Short-lane's-end, near Truro, on Friday last, Edwin Carne, infant son >> of >> Mr. John ENDEAN. >> . >> At Falmouth, on Monday last, Mary Cooper, infant daughter of Mr. S. >> NICHOLS, >> master of the "Astrea," of Liverpool.[the ship Astrea ran a regular route >> from Liverpool to Cornwall] . >> At Helston, on Friday last, Mr. Peter HENDY, aged 43 years. >> . >> At Marazion, on Wednesday last, Mr. Samuel S. LAITY, aged 83 years, for >> fifty of which he was a member of the corporation of that place. >> . >> At Penzance, on Sunday last, the infant daughter of Mr. GEOFFROL, master >> of >> the Penzance School of Art. >> . >> At Hea Moor, near Penzance, on the 26th ult., Elizabeth, wife of Mr. >> James >> THOMAS, aged 67 years. >> . >> At Newlyn west, on the 26th ult., Ann, wife of Mr. John LOBB, aged 58 >> years. >> . >> At Mousehole, on Sunday last, Jane, daughter of Mr. William ANGWIN, aged >> 10 >> years. >> . >> At Crowlas, in the parish of Ludgvan, on the 27th ult., Mary Jane, >> youngest >> daughter of Mr. James TREVASKIS, aged 7 years. >> . >> At Chytodden House, in the parish of Towednack, on the 19th ult., Mrs. >> Elizabeth QUICK, aged 75 years. >> . >> At Copperhouse, on Sunday last, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Anthony JEFFERY. >> . >> At Hayle, in the parish of Phillack, on Monday last, Mr. James KNEEBONE, >> aged 79 years. >> . >> At Connor Downs, in the parish of Gwithian, on Sunday last, Mr. Jonas >> JOHNSON, aged 62 years; and Mr. Robert BRAY, aged 74 years. >> . >> At Camborne, on Friday last, Elizabeth Jane, daughter of Mr. PARKIN, of >> the >> Basset Arms; and Hannibal, son of Mr. Thomas UREN, aged 2 years; on >> Monday >> last, Mr. Thomas MILL, aged 56 years; and Nicholas, son of Mr. Nicholas >> TEMBY, now in Australia, aged 2 years. >> . >> At Redruth, on the 25th ult., Mr. Alexander RUNNALLS, aged 58 years, for >> many of which he was a member of the Baptist Church, and deservedly >> esteemed >> by all who knew him. >> . >> At Redruth, on Wednesday last, Emily, only daughter of Mr. James ANDREW. >> . >> At Penstraze, in the parish of Kea, on Monday last, suddenly, Jane, wife >> of >> Mr. James NORTHY, aged 62 years. >> . >> At Newquay, on Sunday last, the infant son of Capt. BENNETT, of the "Mary >> and Helena." >> . >> At Bodmin, on Tuesday last, Mr. Samuel HOAR. >> . >> At Pinchla Park, in the parish of Cardinham, on the 20th ult., Mr. John >> BATE, yeoman, much respected by all who knew him, and deeply regretted, >> aged >> 38 years. >> . >> At St. Austell, on Sunday last, deeply lamented by all who knew her, >> Jane, >> wife of Mr. SKEWES, of the General Wolfe Inn, aged 51 years. >> . >> At St. Mewan Inn, on the 27th ult., suddenly, Mr. Isaac MALLETT. >> . >> At Couche's Mills, Bosconnoe, suddenly, Mr. W. POND, aged 59 years. >> . >> At Liskeard, on the 25th ult., after a lingering illness, Mr. Peter >> SCANTLEBURY, jun. >> . >> At Callington, on the 19th ult., Mrs. ROWEL, aged 60 years; and on the >> 20th, >> Mrs. Elizabeth SHEER, aged 73 years. >> . >> At Bideford, on the 19th ult., Mr. Thomas HONEY, aged 21 years. >> . >> At Plymouth, on the 26th ult., Mrs. Ann JOPE, widow of Mr. James JOPE, >> formerly of Callington, aged 90 years; and Thomas, son of Mr. J. >> LILLICRAP, >> aged 3 years. >> . >> At Sticklepath, on the 21dt ult., Mr. James COOK. >> . >> At 53 Gracechurch-street, London, on the 22nd ult., of consumption, >> James, >> son of Mr. Josiah BAWDEN, aged 17 years. >> . >> At Fishguard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. SEYMOUR, painter and >> guilder, late of Haverfordwest, and daughter of the late Mr. R. RICHARDS, >> draper, of Penryn, in this county, aged 54 years. >> . >> At South Berwick, Maine, United States, on the 1st ult., much lamented, >> Joseph Bowers GRAY, A.M., M.D., principal of Berwick College, and >> formerly >> of Chelmsford, Essex, aged 38 years. >> . >> At Meerut, Bengal, on the 13th of September, Charlotte, wife of Colonel >> SHULDHAM, of the 15th N.I., daughter of the late James KEMPTHORNE, Esq., >> of >> Windsor Cottage, Bodmin, and relict of the late Major WATTS, of the 26th >> Regiment, Madrass N.I. >> . >> On his voyage home from Calcutta, Mr. Michael MITCHELL, OF Penzance, >> carpenter on board the ship "Emily," of London, aged 42 years. >> . >> On his voyage from Australia, on board the "James Baines," of Liverpool, >> Mr. >> Jonathon KIDD, of Penzance, aged 24 years. >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] >> >> Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription >> information > >> http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear List >From the Births: At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter. This is Catherine Ann DUMBLE, who was born on 14 Oct 1856, St. Ives, and baptised on 13 June 1860, St. Ives. Her parents were Edwin William DUMBLE (c.1831-1869) and Catherine SHUGG (1827-1906), who married in 1850 in St. Ives. In the 1871 Census she is living with Judith Shugg, noted as a niece, age 15, occupation dressmaker, and residing at Tregenna Place, St. Ives. I havn't found her in the 1881 Census, and presumed that she may have married. Regards, Rowena -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julia Mosman Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2012 6:02 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 BMDS West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, transcribed by Bern Currie 5th December 1856 . BIRTHS . At Truro, on the 22nd ult., the wife of James HENDERSON, Esq., of a daughter. . At Falmouth, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James RUSDEN, tailor, of a son; and on Monday last, the wife of Mr. GRIFFITHS, shoemaker, of a daughter. . At St. Keverne, on the 26th ult., the wife of George APPLETON, Esq., surgeon, of a daughter. . At Helston, the wife of Mr. Benedict BISHOP, tailor, of a son. . At Tregiddle, in the parish of Cury, the wife of Mr. Samuel ROWE, of a daughter. . At Marazion, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. F. EDMONDS, grocer; and on Tuesday, the wife of Mr. William LANYON, of a son. . At Penzance, the wife of Capt. Richard PHILLIPS, jun., of a daughter. . At Ludgvan, the wife of Mr. Joseph BEARE, of a son. . At St. Just, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. HARVEY, tin-dresser, of a daughter. . At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter; and the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, of a son. . At New Building, Nancledrea, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Edward TREVENING, of a daughter. . At Nanspuska, in the parish of Phillack, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. John ROSEWARNE, of a daughter, since dead. . At Camborne, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. John PASCOE, of a daughter; and the wife of Mr. Wm. BRYANT, of a son. . At St. Austell, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. John NORTHCOTE, draper, of a still-born daughter. . At Roche, the wife of Mr. Isaac GRIGG, of a daughter. . At St. Blazey, on the 22nd ult., the wife of Mr. Robert PARKYN, of a still-born son. . At Lostwithiel, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, tailor, of a son; and on the 27th, the wife of Mr. Charles ROWE, surgeon, of a daughter. . At Tremabe, in the parish of Liskeard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. SNELL, of a daughter. . At Exeter, on the 21st ult., the wife of Mr. Robert G. VISICK, of a son. . At 30 Southernhay, Exeter, on Friday last, the wife of Broughton KINGDON, Esq., of a daughter. . At Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, on the 26th ult., the wife of the Rev. Stanford G. SCOBEL, of Market-Rasen[?], Lincolnshire, of a daughter. . At Liverpool, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James LULY, formerly of Mevagissey, of a daughter. . At New York, on the 18th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, formerly of Penzance, of a daughter. . MARRIAGES . At the Wesleyan Chapel, Falmouth, on the 16th ult., Mr. Charles THOMAS, of Flushing, to Miss Angeline WESTON, of Falmouth. . At the Registrar's Office, Falmouth, on Saturday last, Mr. R, WATTS, to Mrs. Grace POWELL, both of Falmouth. . At the Baptist Chapel, Helston, on Tuesday last, Richard Dubkof THOMAS, of Pleming, in the parish of Gulval, to Miss Mary Davies THOMAS, of Clies in the parish of Mawgan west. . In the Methodist Chapel, Helston, on Wednesday last, Mr. James William ROBERTS, of Herland Cross, in the parish of Breage, to Miss Margaret PARSONS, of Colsbrick, in the same parish. . At Wesley Rock Chapel, Penzance, on Saturday last, Mr. John ELLIS TO Miss Jenifer BLIGHT, both of St. Ives. . At Madron, on Tuesday last, Mr. Charles CLIFT, cashier of the Messrs. FOX's, Falmouth, to Selina, third daughter of the late Mr. Thomas MILLS, of Rosevean-road, Penzance; and Mr. Thomas MADDERN, of Madron, to Elizabeth, daughter of Mr. Charles BOASE, of the same parish. . At Ludgvan, on Saturday last, Mr. James JENNINGS to Miss Mary VINCENT, both of Ludgvan. . At St. Erth, on the 27th ult., Mr. John STEPHENS, to Nanny, only daughter of Mr. Samuel TREVASKIS. . At Illogan, on the 4th instant, Mr. Christopher BODINAAR, jun., to Miss Mary PAULL. . At the Wesleyan Chapel, Redruth, Mr. Nicholas JENNINGS, of Glynn-wood, near Swansea, to Emma, only daughter of Mr. Walter TREWEEK, on Penzance, in the parish of Gwennap. . At St. Blazey, on the 24th ult., Mr. Thomas BROWN, of Port Isaac, Endellion, to Elizabeth Jane, eldest daughter of Mrs. Catherine RESUGGAN, of the former parish. . At the Wesleyan Chapel, Camelford, on Sunday last, Mr. Henry DAVIES, to Mrs. Jane Granger PATTEN, both of the parish of St. Teath. . At Castle Street Chapel, Launceston, on the 27th ult., Mr. ROUNSEVALL, ON Somerton, in Somersetshire, Bible Christian Minister, to Miss Grace STROUT, of Trewen, in the parish of Altarnun. . At Southpetherwin, on Sunday last, Mr. James LANE, to [sic] of Congdon, to Miss Elizabeth LANE, of Trethewy, both in the same parish. . At Lawhitton, on the 20th ult., Mr. HOWES, to Mary, second daughter of Mr. George LOBB. . At St. Mary's, Hennock, South Devon, on the 25th ult., Carthew Reynolds, eldest son of the Rev. William WOOLLCOMBE, vicar of that parish, to Charlotte, second daughter of the late Rev. Thomas DURHAM. . At St. George's, Hanover Square, London, on the 25th ult., Henry John BROWN, Esq., late of the Rifle Brigade, to Ellen Maria, only daughter of the late Horatio Lewis ORTON, Esq., of Reading, Berks. . At St. Peter's, Easton Square, London, on the 26th ult., Colonel Frederick PAGET, eldest son of the late H. a.[sic] PAGET, to Maria, Georgina, eldest daughter of Charles Berkley Pasco GRENFELL, Esq., of 38 Belgrave Square. . DEATHS . At Park House, Truro, on Tuesday last, after a short illness, John Kempe DEVONSHIRE, Esq., of that place and London, aged 52 years. . At Mount Pleasant, near Truro, on the 22nd ult., Miss Elizabeth WILLS, aged 57 years. . At Short-lane's-end, near Truro, on Friday last, Edwin Carne, infant son of Mr. John ENDEAN. . At Falmouth, on Monday last, Mary Cooper, infant daughter of Mr. S. NICHOLS, master of the "Astrea," of Liverpool.[the ship Astrea ran a regular route from Liverpool to Cornwall] . At Helston, on Friday last, Mr. Peter HENDY, aged 43 years. . At Marazion, on Wednesday last, Mr. Samuel S. LAITY, aged 83 years, for fifty of which he was a member of the corporation of that place. . At Penzance, on Sunday last, the infant daughter of Mr. GEOFFROL, master of the Penzance School of Art. . At Hea Moor, near Penzance, on the 26th ult., Elizabeth, wife of Mr. James THOMAS, aged 67 years. . At Newlyn west, on the 26th ult., Ann, wife of Mr. John LOBB, aged 58 years. . At Mousehole, on Sunday last, Jane, daughter of Mr. William ANGWIN, aged 10 years. . At Crowlas, in the parish of Ludgvan, on the 27th ult., Mary Jane, youngest daughter of Mr. James TREVASKIS, aged 7 years. . At Chytodden House, in the parish of Towednack, on the 19th ult., Mrs. Elizabeth QUICK, aged 75 years. . At Copperhouse, on Sunday last, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Anthony JEFFERY. . At Hayle, in the parish of Phillack, on Monday last, Mr. James KNEEBONE, aged 79 years. . At Connor Downs, in the parish of Gwithian, on Sunday last, Mr. Jonas JOHNSON, aged 62 years; and Mr. Robert BRAY, aged 74 years. . At Camborne, on Friday last, Elizabeth Jane, daughter of Mr. PARKIN, of the Basset Arms; and Hannibal, son of Mr. Thomas UREN, aged 2 years; on Monday last, Mr. Thomas MILL, aged 56 years; and Nicholas, son of Mr. Nicholas TEMBY, now in Australia, aged 2 years. . At Redruth, on the 25th ult., Mr. Alexander RUNNALLS, aged 58 years, for many of which he was a member of the Baptist Church, and deservedly esteemed by all who knew him. . At Redruth, on Wednesday last, Emily, only daughter of Mr. James ANDREW. . At Penstraze, in the parish of Kea, on Monday last, suddenly, Jane, wife of Mr. James NORTHY, aged 62 years. . At Newquay, on Sunday last, the infant son of Capt. BENNETT, of the "Mary and Helena." . At Bodmin, on Tuesday last, Mr. Samuel HOAR. . At Pinchla Park, in the parish of Cardinham, on the 20th ult., Mr. John BATE, yeoman, much respected by all who knew him, and deeply regretted, aged 38 years. . At St. Austell, on Sunday last, deeply lamented by all who knew her, Jane, wife of Mr. SKEWES, of the General Wolfe Inn, aged 51 years. . At St. Mewan Inn, on the 27th ult., suddenly, Mr. Isaac MALLETT. . At Couche's Mills, Bosconnoe, suddenly, Mr. W. POND, aged 59 years. . At Liskeard, on the 25th ult., after a lingering illness, Mr. Peter SCANTLEBURY, jun. . At Callington, on the 19th ult., Mrs. ROWEL, aged 60 years; and on the 20th, Mrs. Elizabeth SHEER, aged 73 years. . At Bideford, on the 19th ult., Mr. Thomas HONEY, aged 21 years. . At Plymouth, on the 26th ult., Mrs. Ann JOPE, widow of Mr. James JOPE, formerly of Callington, aged 90 years; and Thomas, son of Mr. J. LILLICRAP, aged 3 years. . At Sticklepath, on the 21dt ult., Mr. James COOK. . At 53 Gracechurch-street, London, on the 22nd ult., of consumption, James, son of Mr. Josiah BAWDEN, aged 17 years. . At Fishguard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. SEYMOUR, painter and guilder, late of Haverfordwest, and daughter of the late Mr. R. RICHARDS, draper, of Penryn, in this county, aged 54 years. . At South Berwick, Maine, United States, on the 1st ult., much lamented, Joseph Bowers GRAY, A.M., M.D., principal of Berwick College, and formerly of Chelmsford, Essex, aged 38 years. . At Meerut, Bengal, on the 13th of September, Charlotte, wife of Colonel SHULDHAM, of the 15th N.I., daughter of the late James KEMPTHORNE, Esq., of Windsor Cottage, Bodmin, and relict of the late Major WATTS, of the 26th Regiment, Madrass N.I. . On his voyage home from Calcutta, Mr. Michael MITCHELL, OF Penzance, carpenter on board the ship "Emily," of London, aged 42 years. . On his voyage from Australia, on board the "James Baines," of Liverpool, Mr. Jonathon KIDD, of Penzance, aged 24 years. ------------------------------- Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rowena, Catherine Ann DUMBLE is of definite interest to me because she married Frederick John CURNOW (1864-1938, s/o Henry CURNOW & Susan CHINN) on 13 Dec 1884 at Marylebone, London. She was already in London at the 1881 Census, when she was one of six dressmaker's assistants living in the household of Isabella Bevern (#______, 45, unm., dressmaker employing about 10 hands, born Farrington, Lancashire) at 33 Sackville Street, London. Bill Curnow Port Charlotte, FL, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:15 AM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 BMDS - Dumble Birth > Dear List > >>From the Births: > At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter. > > This is Catherine Ann DUMBLE, who was born on 14 Oct 1856, St. Ives, and > baptised on 13 June 1860, St. Ives. Her parents were Edwin William DUMBLE > (c.1831-1869) and Catherine SHUGG (1827-1906), who married in 1850 in St. > Ives. > > In the 1871 Census she is living with Judith Shugg, noted as a niece, age > 15, occupation dressmaker, and residing at Tregenna Place, St. Ives. > > I havn't found her in the 1881 Census, and presumed that she may have > married. > > Regards, > Rowena > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julia Mosman > Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2012 6:02 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 BMDS > > > > West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, transcribed by Bern Currie 5th > December > 1856 . > BIRTHS > . > At Truro, on the 22nd ult., the wife of James HENDERSON, Esq., of a > daughter. > . > At Falmouth, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James RUSDEN, tailor, of a > son; and on Monday last, the wife of Mr. GRIFFITHS, shoemaker, of a > daughter. > . > At St. Keverne, on the 26th ult., the wife of George APPLETON, Esq., > surgeon, of a daughter. > . > At Helston, the wife of Mr. Benedict BISHOP, tailor, of a son. > . > At Tregiddle, in the parish of Cury, the wife of Mr. Samuel ROWE, of a > daughter. > . > At Marazion, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. F. EDMONDS, grocer; and on > Tuesday, the wife of Mr. William LANYON, of a son. > . > At Penzance, the wife of Capt. Richard PHILLIPS, jun., of a daughter. > . > At Ludgvan, the wife of Mr. Joseph BEARE, of a son. > . > At St. Just, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. HARVEY, tin-dresser, of a > daughter. > . > At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter; and the wife of > Mr. John WILLIAMS, of a son. > . > At New Building, Nancledrea, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Edward > TREVENING, of a daughter. > . > At Nanspuska, in the parish of Phillack, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. > John ROSEWARNE, of a daughter, since dead. > . > At Camborne, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. John PASCOE, of a daughter; > and the wife of Mr. Wm. BRYANT, of a son. > . > At St. Austell, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. John NORTHCOTE, draper, of > a > still-born daughter. > . > At Roche, the wife of Mr. Isaac GRIGG, of a daughter. > . > At St. Blazey, on the 22nd ult., the wife of Mr. Robert PARKYN, of a > still-born son. > . > At Lostwithiel, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, tailor, > of > a son; and on the 27th, the wife of Mr. Charles ROWE, surgeon, of a > daughter. > . > At Tremabe, in the parish of Liskeard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. > SNELL, of a daughter. > . > At Exeter, on the 21st ult., the wife of Mr. Robert G. VISICK, of a son. > . > At 30 Southernhay, Exeter, on Friday last, the wife of Broughton KINGDON, > Esq., of a daughter. > . > At Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, on the 26th ult., the wife of the Rev. > Stanford G. SCOBEL, of Market-Rasen[?], Lincolnshire, of a daughter. > . > At Liverpool, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James LULY, formerly of > Mevagissey, of a daughter. > . > At New York, on the 18th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, formerly of > Penzance, of a daughter. > . > MARRIAGES > . > At the Wesleyan Chapel, Falmouth, on the 16th ult., Mr. Charles THOMAS, of > Flushing, to Miss Angeline WESTON, of Falmouth. > . > At the Registrar's Office, Falmouth, on Saturday last, Mr. R, WATTS, to > Mrs. > Grace POWELL, both of Falmouth. > . > At the Baptist Chapel, Helston, on Tuesday last, Richard Dubkof THOMAS, of > Pleming, in the parish of Gulval, to Miss Mary Davies THOMAS, of Clies in > the parish of Mawgan west. > . > In the Methodist Chapel, Helston, on Wednesday last, Mr. James William > ROBERTS, of Herland Cross, in the parish of Breage, to Miss Margaret > PARSONS, of Colsbrick, in the same parish. > . > At Wesley Rock Chapel, Penzance, on Saturday last, Mr. John ELLIS TO Miss > Jenifer BLIGHT, both of St. Ives. > . > At Madron, on Tuesday last, Mr. Charles CLIFT, cashier of the Messrs. > FOX's, > Falmouth, to Selina, third daughter of the late Mr. Thomas MILLS, of > Rosevean-road, Penzance; and Mr. Thomas MADDERN, of Madron, to Elizabeth, > daughter of Mr. Charles BOASE, of the same parish. > . > At Ludgvan, on Saturday last, Mr. James JENNINGS to Miss Mary VINCENT, > both > of Ludgvan. > . > At St. Erth, on the 27th ult., Mr. John STEPHENS, to Nanny, only daughter > of > Mr. Samuel TREVASKIS. > . > At Illogan, on the 4th instant, Mr. Christopher BODINAAR, jun., to Miss > Mary > PAULL. > . > At the Wesleyan Chapel, Redruth, Mr. Nicholas JENNINGS, of Glynn-wood, > near > Swansea, to Emma, only daughter of Mr. Walter TREWEEK, on Penzance, in the > parish of Gwennap. > . > At St. Blazey, on the 24th ult., Mr. Thomas BROWN, of Port Isaac, > Endellion, > to Elizabeth Jane, eldest daughter of Mrs. Catherine RESUGGAN, of the > former > parish. > . > At the Wesleyan Chapel, Camelford, on Sunday last, Mr. Henry DAVIES, to > Mrs. > Jane Granger PATTEN, both of the parish of St. Teath. > . > At Castle Street Chapel, Launceston, on the 27th ult., Mr. ROUNSEVALL, ON > Somerton, in Somersetshire, Bible Christian Minister, to Miss Grace > STROUT, > of Trewen, in the parish of Altarnun. > . > At Southpetherwin, on Sunday last, Mr. James LANE, to [sic] of Congdon, to > Miss Elizabeth LANE, of Trethewy, both in the same parish. > . > At Lawhitton, on the 20th ult., Mr. HOWES, to Mary, second daughter of Mr. > George LOBB. > . > At St. Mary's, Hennock, South Devon, on the 25th ult., Carthew Reynolds, > eldest son of the Rev. William WOOLLCOMBE, vicar of that parish, to > Charlotte, second daughter of the late Rev. Thomas DURHAM. > . > At St. George's, Hanover Square, London, on the 25th ult., Henry John > BROWN, > Esq., late of the Rifle Brigade, to Ellen Maria, only daughter of the late > Horatio Lewis ORTON, Esq., of Reading, Berks. > . > At St. Peter's, Easton Square, London, on the 26th ult., Colonel Frederick > PAGET, eldest son of the late H. a.[sic] PAGET, to Maria, Georgina, eldest > daughter of Charles Berkley Pasco GRENFELL, Esq., of 38 Belgrave Square. > . > DEATHS > . > At Park House, Truro, on Tuesday last, after a short illness, John Kempe > DEVONSHIRE, Esq., of that place and London, aged 52 years. > . > At Mount Pleasant, near Truro, on the 22nd ult., Miss Elizabeth WILLS, > aged > 57 years. > . > At Short-lane's-end, near Truro, on Friday last, Edwin Carne, infant son > of > Mr. John ENDEAN. > . > At Falmouth, on Monday last, Mary Cooper, infant daughter of Mr. S. > NICHOLS, > master of the "Astrea," of Liverpool.[the ship Astrea ran a regular route > from Liverpool to Cornwall] . > At Helston, on Friday last, Mr. Peter HENDY, aged 43 years. > . > At Marazion, on Wednesday last, Mr. Samuel S. LAITY, aged 83 years, for > fifty of which he was a member of the corporation of that place. > . > At Penzance, on Sunday last, the infant daughter of Mr. GEOFFROL, master > of > the Penzance School of Art. > . > At Hea Moor, near Penzance, on the 26th ult., Elizabeth, wife of Mr. James > THOMAS, aged 67 years. > . > At Newlyn west, on the 26th ult., Ann, wife of Mr. John LOBB, aged 58 > years. > . > At Mousehole, on Sunday last, Jane, daughter of Mr. William ANGWIN, aged > 10 > years. > . > At Crowlas, in the parish of Ludgvan, on the 27th ult., Mary Jane, > youngest > daughter of Mr. James TREVASKIS, aged 7 years. > . > At Chytodden House, in the parish of Towednack, on the 19th ult., Mrs. > Elizabeth QUICK, aged 75 years. > . > At Copperhouse, on Sunday last, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Anthony JEFFERY. > . > At Hayle, in the parish of Phillack, on Monday last, Mr. James KNEEBONE, > aged 79 years. > . > At Connor Downs, in the parish of Gwithian, on Sunday last, Mr. Jonas > JOHNSON, aged 62 years; and Mr. Robert BRAY, aged 74 years. > . > At Camborne, on Friday last, Elizabeth Jane, daughter of Mr. PARKIN, of > the > Basset Arms; and Hannibal, son of Mr. Thomas UREN, aged 2 years; on Monday > last, Mr. Thomas MILL, aged 56 years; and Nicholas, son of Mr. Nicholas > TEMBY, now in Australia, aged 2 years. > . > At Redruth, on the 25th ult., Mr. Alexander RUNNALLS, aged 58 years, for > many of which he was a member of the Baptist Church, and deservedly > esteemed > by all who knew him. > . > At Redruth, on Wednesday last, Emily, only daughter of Mr. James ANDREW. > . > At Penstraze, in the parish of Kea, on Monday last, suddenly, Jane, wife > of > Mr. James NORTHY, aged 62 years. > . > At Newquay, on Sunday last, the infant son of Capt. BENNETT, of the "Mary > and Helena." > . > At Bodmin, on Tuesday last, Mr. Samuel HOAR. > . > At Pinchla Park, in the parish of Cardinham, on the 20th ult., Mr. John > BATE, yeoman, much respected by all who knew him, and deeply regretted, > aged > 38 years. > . > At St. Austell, on Sunday last, deeply lamented by all who knew her, Jane, > wife of Mr. SKEWES, of the General Wolfe Inn, aged 51 years. > . > At St. Mewan Inn, on the 27th ult., suddenly, Mr. Isaac MALLETT. > . > At Couche's Mills, Bosconnoe, suddenly, Mr. W. POND, aged 59 years. > . > At Liskeard, on the 25th ult., after a lingering illness, Mr. Peter > SCANTLEBURY, jun. > . > At Callington, on the 19th ult., Mrs. ROWEL, aged 60 years; and on the > 20th, > Mrs. Elizabeth SHEER, aged 73 years. > . > At Bideford, on the 19th ult., Mr. Thomas HONEY, aged 21 years. > . > At Plymouth, on the 26th ult., Mrs. Ann JOPE, widow of Mr. James JOPE, > formerly of Callington, aged 90 years; and Thomas, son of Mr. J. > LILLICRAP, > aged 3 years. > . > At Sticklepath, on the 21dt ult., Mr. James COOK. > . > At 53 Gracechurch-street, London, on the 22nd ult., of consumption, James, > son of Mr. Josiah BAWDEN, aged 17 years. > . > At Fishguard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. SEYMOUR, painter and > guilder, late of Haverfordwest, and daughter of the late Mr. R. RICHARDS, > draper, of Penryn, in this county, aged 54 years. > . > At South Berwick, Maine, United States, on the 1st ult., much lamented, > Joseph Bowers GRAY, A.M., M.D., principal of Berwick College, and formerly > of Chelmsford, Essex, aged 38 years. > . > At Meerut, Bengal, on the 13th of September, Charlotte, wife of Colonel > SHULDHAM, of the 15th N.I., daughter of the late James KEMPTHORNE, Esq., > of > Windsor Cottage, Bodmin, and relict of the late Major WATTS, of the 26th > Regiment, Madrass N.I. > . > On his voyage home from Calcutta, Mr. Michael MITCHELL, OF Penzance, > carpenter on board the ship "Emily," of London, aged 42 years. > . > On his voyage from Australia, on board the "James Baines," of Liverpool, > Mr. > Jonathon KIDD, of Penzance, aged 24 years. > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, transcribed by Bern Currie 5th December 1856 . BIRTHS . At Truro, on the 22nd ult., the wife of James HENDERSON, Esq., of a daughter. . At Falmouth, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James RUSDEN, tailor, of a son; and on Monday last, the wife of Mr. GRIFFITHS, shoemaker, of a daughter. . At St. Keverne, on the 26th ult., the wife of George APPLETON, Esq., surgeon, of a daughter. . At Helston, the wife of Mr. Benedict BISHOP, tailor, of a son. . At Tregiddle, in the parish of Cury, the wife of Mr. Samuel ROWE, of a daughter. . At Marazion, on Monday last, the wife of Mr. F. EDMONDS, grocer; and on Tuesday, the wife of Mr. William LANYON, of a son. . At Penzance, the wife of Capt. Richard PHILLIPS, jun., of a daughter. . At Ludgvan, the wife of Mr. Joseph BEARE, of a son. . At St. Just, on Friday last, the wife of Mr. HARVEY, tin-dresser, of a daughter. . At St. Ives, the wife of Mr. Edwin DUMBLE, of a daughter; and the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, of a son. . At New Building, Nancledrea, on Saturday last, the wife of Mr. Edward TREVENING, of a daughter. . At Nanspuska, in the parish of Phillack, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. John ROSEWARNE, of a daughter, since dead. . At Camborne, on the 27th ult., the wife of Mr. John PASCOE, of a daughter; and the wife of Mr. Wm. BRYANT, of a son. . At St. Austell, on Sunday last, the wife of Mr. John NORTHCOTE, draper, of a still-born daughter. . At Roche, the wife of Mr. Isaac GRIGG, of a daughter. . At St. Blazey, on the 22nd ult., the wife of Mr. Robert PARKYN, of a still-born son. . At Lostwithiel, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, tailor, of a son; and on the 27th, the wife of Mr. Charles ROWE, surgeon, of a daughter. . At Tremabe, in the parish of Liskeard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. SNELL, of a daughter. . At Exeter, on the 21st ult., the wife of Mr. Robert G. VISICK, of a son. . At 30 Southernhay, Exeter, on Friday last, the wife of Broughton KINGDON, Esq., of a daughter. . At Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, on the 26th ult., the wife of the Rev. Stanford G. SCOBEL, of Market-Rasen[?], Lincolnshire, of a daughter. . At Liverpool, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. James LULY, formerly of Mevagissey, of a daughter. . At New York, on the 18th ult., the wife of Mr. John WILLIAMS, formerly of Penzance, of a daughter. . MARRIAGES . At the Wesleyan Chapel, Falmouth, on the 16th ult., Mr. Charles THOMAS, of Flushing, to Miss Angeline WESTON, of Falmouth. . At the Registrar's Office, Falmouth, on Saturday last, Mr. R, WATTS, to Mrs. Grace POWELL, both of Falmouth. . At the Baptist Chapel, Helston, on Tuesday last, Richard Dubkof THOMAS, of Pleming, in the parish of Gulval, to Miss Mary Davies THOMAS, of Clies in the parish of Mawgan west. . In the Methodist Chapel, Helston, on Wednesday last, Mr. James William ROBERTS, of Herland Cross, in the parish of Breage, to Miss Margaret PARSONS, of Colsbrick, in the same parish. . At Wesley Rock Chapel, Penzance, on Saturday last, Mr. John ELLIS TO Miss Jenifer BLIGHT, both of St. Ives. . At Madron, on Tuesday last, Mr. Charles CLIFT, cashier of the Messrs. FOX's, Falmouth, to Selina, third daughter of the late Mr. Thomas MILLS, of Rosevean-road, Penzance; and Mr. Thomas MADDERN, of Madron, to Elizabeth, daughter of Mr. Charles BOASE, of the same parish. . At Ludgvan, on Saturday last, Mr. James JENNINGS to Miss Mary VINCENT, both of Ludgvan. . At St. Erth, on the 27th ult., Mr. John STEPHENS, to Nanny, only daughter of Mr. Samuel TREVASKIS. . At Illogan, on the 4th instant, Mr. Christopher BODINAAR, jun., to Miss Mary PAULL. . At the Wesleyan Chapel, Redruth, Mr. Nicholas JENNINGS, of Glynn-wood, near Swansea, to Emma, only daughter of Mr. Walter TREWEEK, on Penzance, in the parish of Gwennap. . At St. Blazey, on the 24th ult., Mr. Thomas BROWN, of Port Isaac, Endellion, to Elizabeth Jane, eldest daughter of Mrs. Catherine RESUGGAN, of the former parish. . At the Wesleyan Chapel, Camelford, on Sunday last, Mr. Henry DAVIES, to Mrs. Jane Granger PATTEN, both of the parish of St. Teath. . At Castle Street Chapel, Launceston, on the 27th ult., Mr. ROUNSEVALL, ON Somerton, in Somersetshire, Bible Christian Minister, to Miss Grace STROUT, of Trewen, in the parish of Altarnun. . At Southpetherwin, on Sunday last, Mr. James LANE, to [sic] of Congdon, to Miss Elizabeth LANE, of Trethewy, both in the same parish. . At Lawhitton, on the 20th ult., Mr. HOWES, to Mary, second daughter of Mr. George LOBB. . At St. Mary's, Hennock, South Devon, on the 25th ult., Carthew Reynolds, eldest son of the Rev. William WOOLLCOMBE, vicar of that parish, to Charlotte, second daughter of the late Rev. Thomas DURHAM. . At St. George's, Hanover Square, London, on the 25th ult., Henry John BROWN, Esq., late of the Rifle Brigade, to Ellen Maria, only daughter of the late Horatio Lewis ORTON, Esq., of Reading, Berks. . At St. Peter's, Easton Square, London, on the 26th ult., Colonel Frederick PAGET, eldest son of the late H. a.[sic] PAGET, to Maria, Georgina, eldest daughter of Charles Berkley Pasco GRENFELL, Esq., of 38 Belgrave Square. . DEATHS . At Park House, Truro, on Tuesday last, after a short illness, John Kempe DEVONSHIRE, Esq., of that place and London, aged 52 years. . At Mount Pleasant, near Truro, on the 22nd ult., Miss Elizabeth WILLS, aged 57 years. . At Short-lane's-end, near Truro, on Friday last, Edwin Carne, infant son of Mr. John ENDEAN. . At Falmouth, on Monday last, Mary Cooper, infant daughter of Mr. S. NICHOLS, master of the "Astrea," of Liverpool.[the ship Astrea ran a regular route from Liverpool to Cornwall] . At Helston, on Friday last, Mr. Peter HENDY, aged 43 years. . At Marazion, on Wednesday last, Mr. Samuel S. LAITY, aged 83 years, for fifty of which he was a member of the corporation of that place. . At Penzance, on Sunday last, the infant daughter of Mr. GEOFFROL, master of the Penzance School of Art. . At Hea Moor, near Penzance, on the 26th ult., Elizabeth, wife of Mr. James THOMAS, aged 67 years. . At Newlyn west, on the 26th ult., Ann, wife of Mr. John LOBB, aged 58 years. . At Mousehole, on Sunday last, Jane, daughter of Mr. William ANGWIN, aged 10 years. . At Crowlas, in the parish of Ludgvan, on the 27th ult., Mary Jane, youngest daughter of Mr. James TREVASKIS, aged 7 years. . At Chytodden House, in the parish of Towednack, on the 19th ult., Mrs. Elizabeth QUICK, aged 75 years. . At Copperhouse, on Sunday last, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Anthony JEFFERY. . At Hayle, in the parish of Phillack, on Monday last, Mr. James KNEEBONE, aged 79 years. . At Connor Downs, in the parish of Gwithian, on Sunday last, Mr. Jonas JOHNSON, aged 62 years; and Mr. Robert BRAY, aged 74 years. . At Camborne, on Friday last, Elizabeth Jane, daughter of Mr. PARKIN, of the Basset Arms; and Hannibal, son of Mr. Thomas UREN, aged 2 years; on Monday last, Mr. Thomas MILL, aged 56 years; and Nicholas, son of Mr. Nicholas TEMBY, now in Australia, aged 2 years. . At Redruth, on the 25th ult., Mr. Alexander RUNNALLS, aged 58 years, for many of which he was a member of the Baptist Church, and deservedly esteemed by all who knew him. . At Redruth, on Wednesday last, Emily, only daughter of Mr. James ANDREW. . At Penstraze, in the parish of Kea, on Monday last, suddenly, Jane, wife of Mr. James NORTHY, aged 62 years. . At Newquay, on Sunday last, the infant son of Capt. BENNETT, of the "Mary and Helena." . At Bodmin, on Tuesday last, Mr. Samuel HOAR. . At Pinchla Park, in the parish of Cardinham, on the 20th ult., Mr. John BATE, yeoman, much respected by all who knew him, and deeply regretted, aged 38 years. . At St. Austell, on Sunday last, deeply lamented by all who knew her, Jane, wife of Mr. SKEWES, of the General Wolfe Inn, aged 51 years. . At St. Mewan Inn, on the 27th ult., suddenly, Mr. Isaac MALLETT. . At Couche's Mills, Bosconnoe, suddenly, Mr. W. POND, aged 59 years. . At Liskeard, on the 25th ult., after a lingering illness, Mr. Peter SCANTLEBURY, jun. . At Callington, on the 19th ult., Mrs. ROWEL, aged 60 years; and on the 20th, Mrs. Elizabeth SHEER, aged 73 years. . At Bideford, on the 19th ult., Mr. Thomas HONEY, aged 21 years. . At Plymouth, on the 26th ult., Mrs. Ann JOPE, widow of Mr. James JOPE, formerly of Callington, aged 90 years; and Thomas, son of Mr. J. LILLICRAP, aged 3 years. . At Sticklepath, on the 21dt ult., Mr. James COOK. . At 53 Gracechurch-street, London, on the 22nd ult., of consumption, James, son of Mr. Josiah BAWDEN, aged 17 years. . At Fishguard, on the 26th ult., the wife of Mr. SEYMOUR, painter and guilder, late of Haverfordwest, and daughter of the late Mr. R. RICHARDS, draper, of Penryn, in this county, aged 54 years. . At South Berwick, Maine, United States, on the 1st ult., much lamented, Joseph Bowers GRAY, A.M., M.D., principal of Berwick College, and formerly of Chelmsford, Essex, aged 38 years. . At Meerut, Bengal, on the 13th of September, Charlotte, wife of Colonel SHULDHAM, of the 15th N.I., daughter of the late James KEMPTHORNE, Esq., of Windsor Cottage, Bodmin, and relict of the late Major WATTS, of the 26th Regiment, Madrass N.I. . On his voyage home from Calcutta, Mr. Michael MITCHELL, OF Penzance, carpenter on board the ship "Emily," of London, aged 42 years. . On his voyage from Australia, on board the "James Baines," of Liverpool, Mr. Jonathon KIDD, of Penzance, aged 24 years.

Phoebe, Particularly in the west, the language of Cornwall at the time surnames were becoming common was neither English nor French but Cornish. We don't have any original parish records from the 16th century (the ones we do have are transcriptions made in Jacobean times) so it is not possible to tell if any of the originals were in Cornish. (I'm inclined to think not.) But there must have been an element of translation at some stage. Wasn't the first Earl of Cornwall named Robert? An obvious place for the origin of the name. Best, Ken > > From: Phoebe <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:03:43 +1100 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] surnames and given names in Cornwall > > Greetings, all. Another interesting thread! Here's my contribution. > > Some years ago a Stephens friend pointed out that Stephens, Roberts, > Richards, etc are all cornish forms, whereas Stephenson, Robertson, > Richardson etc are english forms. This fits my knowledge of anglo-saxon > and the history of the english language: "son" is a danish ending (as > opposed to "ing", an anglo-saxon ending) and tends to indicate ancestral > origins within the Danelaw. Cornwall was well outside the Danelaw and > even if the people had spoken a form of english they wouldn't have been > affected by that. > > Subsequent research has alerted me to a cornish habit of using given > names, both female and male, as surnames - without even a terminal S. > (Ignore Cliff Richard - he was born Harry Webb.) In all cases the given > name is the basis of the surname, not vice versa. But with society the > way it was, how did female names get to be surnames? A man would be > differentiated from other men of the same given name by his father's > name (or his occupation etc, but just focusing here on given/surnames), > and his wife and daughters just got lumped in with him. My guess is that > a man surnamed Betty or Pheby was born out of wedlock - a guess based > simply on common sense and social history, plus a remembered story of a > man born out of wedlock in Russia whose surname was in the feminine > form: not his mother's first name but her actual surname, feminised as > she would herself have used it. > > And when looking particularly at Roberts I realised that Robert is > neither a cornish nor an english name: it's french. Most or all the > surnames in Cornwall based on men's given names seem to be french, > though a mixture of norman and parisian forms. Why? Did the ancestors of > all these families cross to Cornwall with (or follow) the Conqueror? Did > some of them originate in Paris, not Normandy? William handed big chunks > of Cornwall to his supporters, but I don't know that these were > necessarily all born in Normandy. > > Any takers on these questions? > > Bev Edmonds' message was very useful to me personally re Annis - I'd > never thought of a silent G, but it makes sense. Ralph is correctly > pronounced "Rafe", as in Ralph Vauhan Williams (good cornish surname > there, though in his case welsh) or as in calf, half, palm, calm or - > best of all - golf; we just get it wrong. (Rock Hudson in, I think, > "Giant", refers to a cow's baby as a "cal-f".) Thanks, Bev. > > Phoebe

Iam a UREN from St Ives , Cornwall , any of yours from there ?? Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg & Neil Andrews" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 NEWS > And it is with great sadness for me, that the posts have reached the end > of > 1856 as I think that my > UREN lot will have all left Cornwall by then, and so I am not likely to > find > anything on them any more. > I very much appreciate the efforts of all those who have worked to produce > these newspaper items > so thank you all. I think I might hang around a little while longer > though > as I will miss the lovely stories ! > Marg Andrews Qld Oz. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julia Mosman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:22 PM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 NEWS >> Hi all - >> . >> This is the last month of 1856 to post, and that means we've almost >> completed 20 years of WB issues. That's a lot of effort and magic, done >> without mirrors but a great dependence on computers, cameras, and >> microfilm, and an even greater dependence on consistant, considerate >> comrades in transcription who have been ever willing to lend a hand when >> needed. >> . >> I'd like to thank them publically for all that effort and dedication.(but >> you know they were having fun, too...) >> . >> An Archives search for Cornish-gen returned over 36,000 posts today - not >> all ours, by any imagination, but definitely quite a few of them were... >> . >> So stick with us, we've already got 1857 almost ready for you. >> . >> MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE, Julia, >> . >> ps - we'll try to keep the format for the BMDs; thanks for noticing and >> letting us know you like it >> . >> Current transcribers are Isabel, Lorena, Bill C., Maurine, Bern C., >> Graham >> and Sue, and Julia >> Webmaster, Co-founder, and Official record keeper: Rita >> Please visit our website at >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad >> And we need to thank the St. Pirrans Society of Minnesota, and the >> Cornish-American Heritage Society, who paid for the microfilming of the >> newspapers; without them, we couldn't have done the transcriptions. >> .................................................................................................................. >> > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5429 - Release Date: 11/30/12 >

And it is with great sadness for me, that the posts have reached the end of 1856 as I think that my UREN lot will have all left Cornwall by then, and so I am not likely to find anything on them any more. I very much appreciate the efforts of all those who have worked to produce these newspaper items so thank you all. I think I might hang around a little while longer though as I will miss the lovely stories ! Marg Andrews Qld Oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Mosman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:22 PM Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 NEWS > Hi all - > . > This is the last month of 1856 to post, and that means we've almost > completed 20 years of WB issues. That's a lot of effort and magic, done > without mirrors but a great dependence on computers, cameras, and > microfilm, and an even greater dependence on consistant, considerate > comrades in transcription who have been ever willing to lend a hand when > needed. > . > I'd like to thank them publically for all that effort and dedication.(but > you know they were having fun, too...) > . > An Archives search for Cornish-gen returned over 36,000 posts today - not > all ours, by any imagination, but definitely quite a few of them were... > . > So stick with us, we've already got 1857 almost ready for you. > . > MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE, Julia, > . > ps - we'll try to keep the format for the BMDs; thanks for noticing and > letting us know you like it > . > Current transcribers are Isabel, Lorena, Bill C., Maurine, Bern C., Graham > and Sue, and Julia > Webmaster, Co-founder, and Official record keeper: Rita > Please visit our website at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad > And we need to thank the St. Pirrans Society of Minnesota, and the > Cornish-American Heritage Society, who paid for the microfilming of the > newspapers; without them, we couldn't have done the transcriptions. > .................................................................................................................. >

Let's not forget that the close connection between Cornwall & Brittany, especially sharing an common language, meant that there was a constant movement between the two places as shown by the Celtic Saints and the shared stories of the Arthurian Cycles. The  Bretons claim that Merddyn (Merlin) sleeps in the Forest of Broceliande and the country is sprinkled with Arthur's Cave/Stone/Pool etc. I always felt at home travelling in Brittany with so many place-names familiar to me from Kernow. A number of Breton warlords came over with William in 1066 and appear to have been well-received in Cornwall, some being granted land. The surname 'Le Breton' appears in various records of the 16th century & earlier. To regard the Bretons of the Conquest period as 'French' is probably equal to regarding the Cornish as 'English' ! Oll an gwella, Stephen >________________________________ >3. surnames and given names in Cornwall (Phoebe) >  Message: 3 >Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:03:43 +1100 >From: Phoebe <[email protected]> >Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] surnames and given names in Cornwall >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >...And when looking particularly at Roberts I realised that Robert is >neither a cornish nor an english name: it's french. Most or all the >surnames in Cornwall based on men's given names seem to be french, >though a mixture of norman and parisian forms. Why? Did the ancestors of >all these families cross to Cornwall with (or follow) the Conqueror? Did >some of them originate in Paris, not Normandy? William handed big chunks >of Cornwall to his supporters, but I don't know that these were >necessarily all  born in Normandy. > >Any takers on these questions? > > >Phoebe > >

My URENS are from ST Ives . Cornwall , any connection with that town ??Janet , (nee UREN) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg & Neil Andrews" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 NEWS > And it is with great sadness for me, that the posts have reached the end > of > 1856 as I think that my > UREN lot will have all left Cornwall by then, and so I am not likely to > find > anything on them any more. > I very much appreciate the efforts of all those who have worked to produce > these newspaper items > so thank you all. I think I might hang around a little while longer > though > as I will miss the lovely stories ! > Marg Andrews Qld Oz. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julia Mosman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:22 PM > Subject: [CORNISH-GEN] West Briton, 5 December 1856 NEWS >> Hi all - >> . >> This is the last month of 1856 to post, and that means we've almost >> completed 20 years of WB issues. That's a lot of effort and magic, done >> without mirrors but a great dependence on computers, cameras, and >> microfilm, and an even greater dependence on consistant, considerate >> comrades in transcription who have been ever willing to lend a hand when >> needed. >> . >> I'd like to thank them publically for all that effort and dedication.(but >> you know they were having fun, too...) >> . >> An Archives search for Cornish-gen returned over 36,000 posts today - not >> all ours, by any imagination, but definitely quite a few of them were... >> . >> So stick with us, we've already got 1857 almost ready for you. >> . >> MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE, Julia, >> . >> ps - we'll try to keep the format for the BMDs; thanks for noticing and >> letting us know you like it >> . >> Current transcribers are Isabel, Lorena, Bill C., Maurine, Bern C., >> Graham >> and Sue, and Julia >> Webmaster, Co-founder, and Official record keeper: Rita >> Please visit our website at >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad >> And we need to thank the St. Pirrans Society of Minnesota, and the >> Cornish-American Heritage Society, who paid for the microfilming of the >> newspapers; without them, we couldn't have done the transcriptions. >> .................................................................................................................. >> > ------------------------------- > Listmom: [email protected] or [email protected] > > Visit the OPC (Online Parish Clerk) web page for transcription information > http://www.cornwall-opc.org/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5429 - Release Date: 11/30/12 >